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bigpa...@webtv.net

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Do you ever see really large people on these beaches? I'd like to drop
my inhibitions (and my drawers) but don't want to make others
uncomfortable because of my size.


Pamela Yaeger

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Who cares what they think? If you're comfy with your body,
and you've slathered on the sunscreen, why not? If they don't
like looking at you, they can close their eyes or look the other
way.

I'm a fat lady, married to a fat man, and gosh, if someone doesn't
like our size, tough. Our being on the beach doesn't hurt a soul.

We just returned from Coyaba in Jamaica, where we romped
merrily in our swimsuits (too many kids to go nekkid). I wore
a 2 piece and no one grimaced. We found the Jamaicans were
quite open about size (calling my husband big man, fatty, etc and
telling me he's FAT!" but it wasn't at all judgmental or nasty.

Do what's best for you--if it doesn't hurt anyone, why not?

Todd Dennis

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Relax and enjoy yourself. We've seen people of all ages, sizes, and
nationalities, and we've never seen anyone become uncomfortable because of
another's appearance. Besides, anyone that shallow doesn't have a valuable
opinion anyway.

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we will love only what we understand, and we will
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Kristin Nance

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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I think fat people are cute.


Fitzwilliam

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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In article <36D5AC06...@iaaglobal.org>
Pamela Yaeger <pam...@iaaglobal.org> writes:

> I'm a fat lady, married to a fat man, and gosh, if someone doesn't
> like our size, tough. Our being on the beach doesn't hurt a soul.

Absolutely right. You have the same right to dress, or not, as anyone else.

> We just returned from Coyaba in Jamaica, where we romped
> merrily in our swimsuits (too many kids to go nekkid). I wore

Now, I don't know Coyaba personally. If it is only occasionally nude, or
only somewhat nude-tolerated, you may indeed have been right to adjust in
this way. It's always a good idea to follow the "when in Rome" rule.
Generally, though, I wouldn't worry about kids. If they're showing up at a
nude beach, those kids have probably have already seen all the parts there
are to see. The kids who go to Sandy Hook in NJ totally ignore the nude
people; it's no big deal, and in fact, a good percentage of the kids there
don't bother with swimsuits themselves!

> a 2 piece and no one grimaced. We found the Jamaicans were
> quite open about size (calling my husband big man, fatty, etc and
> telling me he's FAT!" but it wasn't at all judgmental or nasty.

I think that this is actually healthier than is the Politically Correct
paranoia in the USA. (Actually, in some cultures, being rotund is viewed as
a sign of prosperity!) It is our unhealthy love affair with "thin" in this
country that has made the term "fat" an insult. When you use it in a
friendly, honest, respectful way, as you describe in Jamaica, "fat" is just a
word, like "black" or "white" or "janitor" (sorry, I mean "sanitation
worker"!!!) etc. The problem with our words is NOT the words themselves; the
problem is that our commonly-used words for other races etc. become
associated with the all-too-common hate, mistrust, and prejudice, so those
"damaged" words must periodically be discarded and new, "correct" words
invented. I would be willing to bet that in a decade or two,
"African-American" will no longer be considered polite, just like "colored"
is no longer considered polite usage today. The problem is not the words,
the problem is mistrust and fear of those different from ourselves. This is
why I think "Politically Correct" is, at best, like a band-aid for a broken
leg. When we fix our relationships with our fellow humans, devising "P.C."
terminology for one another will be unnecessary.
So (what was the question again? :) don't ever worry that you're "not good
enough" to be nude where such is permitted. If YOU feel comfortable with
your body, then just relax and enjoy along with everyone else.

James M. Fitzwilliam
fitzw...@vassar.edu
http://faculty.vassar.edu/~fitzwill

Cliff.in.NJ

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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I can not stress enough how accepting EVERYONE was of any shape
body on a nude beach/gathering.

There is probably no better way of raising one's self-esteam (sp)
than to just do it - any age / any shape / post kids, etc.

Anyway, what is the worse result? Someone you don't know smerks; A suite
is always a recourse.

Anyway, it is a new experience. Don't put nude bathing off till the
next lifetime.


bigpa...@webtv.net

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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Thanks to you all for the support. I'm ready to go for it. I just hope
that when I get out there it's not all Supermodels and Fabio's.Where
are the best nude beaches in Jamaic? Thanks again.


Durand Stieger

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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The best of the better-known nude beaches on Jamaica are likely in the
northwestern portion of the island, from Negril (on the west) to the
Runaway Bay area. Many of these are at private resorts, including some
open to the general non-guest public, while others are public beaches
without private-property connections.

If I had to pick out one beach, to recommend to first-time users of a
clothing-optional beach, I think it would be Bloody Bay (don't let the
bay name scare you; it's a beautiful area with large scenic beach).
This public beach is located on the middle part of Bloody Bay, just
north of Negril's "7-mile beach" at Long Bay (around the point
separating the two bays) and north of the Grand Lido Negril resort; any
taxi driver can take you to where the short path to the public beach
begins (for the return, just hail another passing taxi). On the beach,
you will likely see both clothed and unclothed people, spread out over
the large expanse of sand; just go to where you feel comfortable and
enjoy!

Durand Stieger
(When e-mailing me, remove "ns." from my address)

Mitchell Holman

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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In article <5222-36D...@newsd-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, bigpa...@webtv.net wrote:
}Do you ever see really large people on these beaches? I'd like to drop
}my inhibitions (and my drawers) but don't want to make others
}uncomfortable because of my size.
}

On nude beaches you will find fat people,
thin people, amputees, supermodels, retired
folk, honeymooners, college kids, europeans,
asians, americans, and locals just out for swim.
None of whom are judging anyone else by their
appearance. Try it.


mvo...@hotmail.com

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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In article <5222-36D...@newsd-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
bigpa...@webtv.net wrote:
> Do you ever see really large people on these beaches? I'd like to drop
> my inhibitions (and my drawers) but don't want to make others
> uncomfortable because of my size.
>

Great, go ahead. If you want someplace quiet, email me and I will give you the
name of a cheap place in Jamaica.

Michael

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Ratty

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Why do Americans have a "thing" about how fat people should accept
their fatness and "it is other people's problems" if they dont like it?
The Americans are among the fattest people on the earth but complain its
not their fault, its in their genes. Yeah right.
They should spend their energy more wisely by losing weight, not
settling for a second rate quality of life.
If my post makes you angry, reflect on why youre angry.

Pamela Yaeger wrote:
>
> Who cares what they think? If you're comfy with your body,
> and you've slathered on the sunscreen, why not? If they don't
> like looking at you, they can close their eyes or look the other
> way.
>

> I'm a fat lady, married to a fat man, and gosh, if someone doesn't
> like our size, tough. Our being on the beach doesn't hurt a soul.
>

> We just returned from Coyaba in Jamaica, where we romped
> merrily in our swimsuits (too many kids to go nekkid). I wore

> a 2 piece and no one grimaced. We found the Jamaicans were
> quite open about size (calling my husband big man, fatty, etc and
> telling me he's FAT!" but it wasn't at all judgmental or nasty.
>

> Do what's best for you--if it doesn't hurt anyone, why not?
>

Sandra Wallace

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Dear Pamela,
You asked us to reflect, so here I go. First of all, what fat people
were you talking about?
Was it those with hypothyroidism, who even with excercise and synthroid
they still have a low metabolism causing them to gain weight?
Was it The thousands of Americans that fall within the poverty level who
have to decide on whether to feed all their children with a pound of
bologna or get the leaner but costly turkey breast and only feed half
their children?
Maybe you were talking about the thousands of people who take anti
depresants and anti psychotics, which almost all have an adverse effect
of weight gain.
Was it the arthritis sufferers and chronic back pain suffers that have
steroid injecions who might want to be able to get out of bed and walk
for a change? These medicines also cause weight gain.
Maybe you wern't talking about peope who take medicines. Maybe you were
talking about women who have had children. God plays little jokes on
women after child birth. On that note, birth control pills can also
cause weight gain.
People who quit smoking to better them selves also gain weight. Kids
who were abused or molested, gain weight sometimes to become less
attractive to their abuses.
Should all these "fat Americans" sit at home and reflect? There are
many more reasons why people gain weight, but I don't think it is your
job to insult them or advice them to reflect.
Sandi


Kristin Nance

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Well said, Sandi!


C.A.S.

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Ratty wrote:
>
> Why do Americans have a "thing" about how fat people should accept
> their fatness and "it is other people's problems" if they dont like it?
> The Americans are among the fattest people on the earth but complain its
> not their fault, its in their genes. Yeah right.
> They should spend their energy more wisely by losing weight, not
> settling for a second rate quality of life.
> If my post makes you angry, reflect on why youre angry.
>
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Who really gives a damn about your post, anyway?????

Andy in Dallas


P.S. I have found that most countries will accept
economic aid from fat Americans......

ellen propp

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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i also agree sandi

esp


Rusty Neff

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Why do Australians complain so much? Before someone starts flaming, I know
Australians don't complain too much, but old Ratty loves to paint great big
generalizations.

So Ratty, why are you so defensive about Americans? Got some hang-ups you'd
like to share? Wait a minute......none of us care to hear about it.

Get a life!

Rusty


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Pamela Yaeger

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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Oh, please. Fat's simply one aspect of a person, and is that reason enough
to judge them? There are plenty of people out there that I find unattractive,
so I look the other way.

Nothing I said indicates that fat isn't my fault, or is in the genes. So your
wailing
about that is irrelevant. In fact, you don't know me, or why I'm fat--and
why would I share that information with you? My energy is already well-spent,
thank you, as I'm a busy executive with a full and happy social life. My life
is certainly not second-rate--and to imply that it must be because I'm
fat is just silly.

Your post doesn't make me angry--I've heard your attitude before and
find it amusing. You're the one who sounds angry. I've traveled all over the
world, and my size isn't an issue. I'm not stupid enough to pretend it
doesn't exist, or it might not draw attention. But if it does, so what. I'm
fat.
My husband's fatter. If that's enough to keep you away from us, well good.
You're probably not the sort we'd want to chat with anyway.

ChaseEmma

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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Perhaps you should spend your energy losing your bad attitude and general
unappealing personality. If my post makes you angry, reflect on the fact that
the truth hurts.

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