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Alexander Bartolich

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Aug 9, 2010, 2:25:47 AM8/9/10
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MODERATOR VACANCY INVESTIGATION (MVI)
moderated group rec.travel.bed+breakfast

This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup rec.travel.bed+breakfast is not functioning,
and may have been abandoned by its moderator(s).

This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.

RATIONALE:

According to Google's archive the last regular post was approved on
2006-02-17. A probe message resulted in a bounce.

bnb-...@innsite.com
(generated from rec-travel-b...@moderators.isc.org)
SMTP error from remote mail server after
RCPT TO:<bnb-...@innsite.com>: host smtp.secureserver.net
[72.167.238.201]: 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected bnb-...@innsite.com

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

rec.travel.bed+breakfast A forum for bed and breakfast guests. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.travel.bed+breakfast
rec.travel.misc

CHARTER OF REC.TRAVEL.BED+BREAKFAST

Articles suitable for posting to rec.travel.bed+breakfast are those
pertaining to any topic related to lodging in B&Bs.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):
* past and current B&B guest experiences
* referrals and recommendations
* suggestions to guests and innkeepers
* reviews of guidebooks and other B&B travel resources
* discussions on food, amenities, locations, recreation, pricing,
licenses, certifications, and discounts of B&B inns
* and just general collaboration and comradery.

Inappropriate posts would include:
* Advertising. This newsgroup allows those involved and/or interested
in the B&B industry to help B&B travelers. This is NOT a forum for
advertising and commercial interests and such posts will NOT be
welcome. If you have a product or a tour, please post your message
in rec.travel.marketplace or other locations.
* Inappropriate behavior. Inappropriate posts, spamming, advertisement,
foul language, or innuendos that are disrespectful of the other users
or groups of people.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

rec.travel.bed+breakfast is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 194:17 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 17 Jun 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Moderator_Vacancy_Investigations

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-05-20 Probe post
2010-08-09 Moderator Vacancy Investigation

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Alexander Bartolich

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Aug 23, 2010, 1:59:18 AM8/23/10
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.travel.bed+breakfast

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup rec.travel.bed+breakfast.

RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.travel.bed+breakfast
rec.travel.misc

CHARTER OF REC.TRAVEL.BED+BREAKFAST

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should


subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for rec.travel.bed+breakfast are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the removal process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Group_Removal_FAQ

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-05-20 Probe post
2010-08-09 Moderator Vacancy Investigation

2010-08-23 1st RFD

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Alexander Bartolich

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Sep 6, 2010, 11:44:10 AM9/6/10
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RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.travel.bed+breakfast
rec.travel.misc

CHARTER OF REC.TRAVEL.BED+BREAKFAST

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Group_Removal_FAQ

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-09-06 2nd

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Big-8 Management Board

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Oct 2, 2010, 8:28:17 AM10/2/10
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RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.travel.bed+breakfast
rec.travel.misc

CHARTER OF REC.TRAVEL.BED+BREAKFAST

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Group_Removal_FAQ

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-09-06 2nd RFD
2010-10-02 LCC

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Big-8 Management Board

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Oct 9, 2010, 3:26:56 PM10/9/10
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RESULT
rec.travel.bed+breakfast will be removed

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-10-02 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove moderated group
rec.travel.bed+breakfast.

RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.travel.bed+breakfast
rec.travel.misc

CHARTER OF REC.TRAVEL.BED+BREAKFAST

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-05-20 Probe post
2010-08-09 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-08-23 1st RFD
2010-09-06 2nd RFD
2010-10-02 LCC

2010-10-09 RESULT

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