Israeli airport security blasts laptop?
AES
<http://themacurl.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/israeli-security-shoots-travel
lers-macbook-pro/>
(The larger pictures in the original LillySussman blog that's linked to
from this URL are quite dramatic, and the accompanying narrative seems
reasonably believable.)
2) Does it make any sense from the Israeli side?
If Isreali security really thought the MacBook was an explosive device,
wouldn't they X-ray it and attempt to learn something about how and
where it might have been assembled? -- instead of shooting it,
presumably to trigger the explosion, and thereby presumably destroying a
lot of the detailed evidence.
3) Where did they shoot it? If they thought it was an explosive
device, would they not have to do this inside some kind ot highly
reinforced protective box?
4) Has this story been reported more broadly in other mainstream media
-- the NYT, etc?
Binyamin Dissen
:>1) Does anyone believe this report?
:><http://themacurl.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/israeli-security-shoots-travel
:>lers-macbook-pro/>
:>(The larger pictures in the original LillySussman blog that's linked to
:>from this URL are quite dramatic, and the accompanying narrative seems
:>reasonably believable.)
:>2) Does it make any sense from the Israeli side?
Yes.
:>If Isreali security really thought the MacBook was an explosive device,
:>wouldn't they X-ray it and attempt to learn something about how and
:>where it might have been assembled? -- instead of shooting it,
:>presumably to trigger the explosion, and thereby presumably destroying a
:>lot of the detailed evidence.
Why take the risk?
In general, when a suspicious object is located, the first attempt is a
controlled explosion.
:>3) Where did they shoot it? If they thought it was an explosive
:>device, would they not have to do this inside some kind ot highly
:>reinforced protective box?
Or out in the open while keeping behind a shield.
:>4) Has this story been reported more broadly in other mainstream media
:>-- the NYT, etc?
Not really. Not untypical when people come from arab countries, particularly
when they fail to adequately explain where they went and whom they met, It is
quite clear from the blog that the "innocent traveler" has serious anti-Jewish
feelings and would most likely have been quite belligerent when questioned.
--
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William Black
More to the point, what idiot open a suspect laptop to enable them to
shoot the screen knowing there's a switch that detects when the thing is
opened...
And, who the hell shoots the screen?
And, gunshots audible to passengers at an airport, which is innocent
but the reason is announced AFTER the shooting.
The whole story stinks.
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
nospam
Dissen <post...@dissensoftware.com> wrote:
> :>If Isreali security really thought the MacBook was an explosive device,
> :>wouldn't they X-ray it and attempt to learn something about how and
> :>where it might have been assembled? -- instead of shooting it,
> :>presumably to trigger the explosion, and thereby presumably destroying a
> :>lot of the detailed evidence.
>
> Why take the risk?
what risk? it was a laptop, not a bomb. if they can't tell the
difference between the two, they have bigger problems.
> In general, when a suspicious object is located, the first attempt is a
> controlled explosion.
shoot first ask questions later? what bullshit. what was suspicious
about her laptop?
> :>4) Has this story been reported more broadly in other mainstream media
> :>-- the NYT, etc?
>
> Not really. Not untypical when people come from arab countries, particularly
> when they fail to adequately explain where they went and whom they met, It is
> quite clear from the blog that the "innocent traveler" has serious anti-Jewish
> feelings and would most likely have been quite belligerent when questioned.
she is jewish, just not jewish enough, apparently.
and israel is paying for a new laptop, so obviously they know they're
guilty of destroying a laptop for no reason.
Bert Hyman
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> what risk? it was a laptop, not a bomb. if they can't tell the
> difference between the two, they have bigger problems.
Hey! That's funny.
Stupid, but still funny.
After all, nobody would ->ever think of hiding explosives in a laptop,
would they?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
William Black
> In news:281220092141211073%nos...@nospam.invalid nospam
> <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> what risk? it was a laptop, not a bomb. if they can't tell the
>> difference between the two, they have bigger problems.
>
> Hey! That's funny.
>
> Stupid, but still funny.
>
> After all, nobody would ->ever think of hiding explosives in a laptop,
> would they?
>
The story's a crock anyway.
Look at the picture of the laptop.
Who'd open the thing when they know there's a switch that detects when
the thing is opened?
What airport makes announcements AFTER a series of gunshots saying they
were just normal operating procedure?
What pilot takes an aircraft into the air without a minute examination
of that aircraft after shots are fired at an airport?
Nope, just more lies...
terrable
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hhdgge$m0q$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> In news:281220092141211073%nos...@nospam.invalid nospam
>> <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> what risk? it was a laptop, not a bomb. if they can't tell the
>>> difference between the two, they have bigger problems.
>>
>> Hey! That's funny.
>>
>> Stupid, but still funny.
>>
>> After all, nobody would ->ever think of hiding explosives in a laptop,
>> would they?
>
> The story's a crock anyway.
>
> Look at the picture of the laptop.
>
> Who'd open the thing when they know there's a switch that detects when the
> thing is opened?
>
> What airport makes announcements AFTER a series of gunshots saying they
> were just normal operating procedure?
>
> What pilot takes an aircraft into the air without a minute examination of
> that aircraft after shots are fired at an airport?
>
> Nope, just more lies...
>
>
Your version is the crock.
The laptop was shot while shut, not open. Look at the picture and it clearly
shows 3 matching holes in the body of the laptop as well as the screen.
Airport? What airport?
Lily Sussman crossed at Taba, a land crossing from Egypt to Isreal.
nospam
<terr...@terrable.net> wrote:
> Lily Sussman crossed at Taba, a land crossing from Egypt to Isreal.
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1135243.html
"The security officers did not ask about my laptop prior to shooting
it," Sussman told Daily News Egypt.
shoot first, ask questions later. at least they're paying for their
fuckup.
nospam
<be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> After all, nobody would ->ever think of hiding explosives in a laptop,
> would they?
was there a credible reason to suspect it was something other than a
stock macbook? they shot it *before* asking her about it, so no, there
was not.
Bert Hyman
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Xns9CF05D62BB1...@216.250.188.141>, Bert Hyman
><be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>> After all, nobody would ->ever think of hiding explosives in a
>> laptop, would they?
>
> was there a credible reason to suspect it was something other than a
> stock macbook?
Probably.
> they shot it *before* asking her about it, so no, there
> was not.
Why would you accept the word of someone you suspect of carrying an
exposive?
nospam
<be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > they shot it *before* asking her about it, so no, there
> > was not.
>
> Why would you accept the word of someone you suspect of carrying an
> exposive?
why bother interviewing the person if you are not going to accept
anything they say?