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> Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Do people actually prefer
> variations, or would you be happy with good, "definitive" figures,
> few costume changes (but none of these Arctic Blast things), and
> variations, more characters?
Well, I definitely have no desire to see variations for variations sake
(ie all the multicolor batmen, the 5001 Tatooine Lukes with different
accessories, etc), but I do think there is room for multiple figures of
the same character.
Take Star Wars for example: sure, Han has one difinitive outfit -- the
one from the first movie -- but he also has a couple of decent costume
changes, too -- the Hoth outfit and the Endor trenchcoat. How silly
does Han look riding a Taun-Taun in just the white shirt & black vest?
Luke is even more of a problem, since there are two, possibly three
"definitive" versions -- Tatooine, Jedi, and possibly pilot.
Major costume changes should definitly be accomodated. Variations
(such as the Hoth Han) only should be made if there is a need (without
a Taun-Taun, I don't really need Hoth Han, anymore, do I?)
Not sure if that answers your question or not, though :)
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> Sometimes it's easy. Superman, for the most part, only has one outfit.
I used to think that too, but that's not true anymore. Most of the costume
variations in the Man of Steel line actually came from the comics. (Come to
think of it, Superman--and Batman--had a lot of alternate costumes back in
the wacky 60's.)
> But in the case of Neo - he only wears the > trenchcoat for about ten
> of the movie, if that. So why does the figure include the trenchcoat?
> people wanted it. Because, quite frankly, that's exactly how *I* would
> wanted to see him.
Excellent point...and there would've been a lot of bitching if he hadn't had
it. Kinda like the Dapol Doctor Who Tom Baker figure that came without his
> The whole deal with Ash is another example. Gareee, you'll back me up
> this - for the new Movie Maniacs Ash, everyone wants either last-third
> Dead II Ash, or beginning-of-AOD Ash. We want the torn shirt, the brown
> pants, the scars on the face, the shotgun, and the hand/chainsaw.
> Why? I'm not entirely certain, but I would hazard a guess that
> the EDII Ash seems to be the most "normal" Ash
Well, at the risk of sounding pretentious, it's also the moment when he
transcends from being just another poor horror-movie victim into a
full-fledged, ass-kicking, zombie-chopping superhero. The chainsaw hand is a
big part of the appeal too...it's wacky, plus it pleases the gore hounds.
Even the poster for AoD featured this version of Ash, despite the fact that
he keeps the chainsaw for all of about three minutes in the actual film.
> I really hate it when we repeatedly get "definitive" figures...now I have
two Han Solos, the
> original and the new Commtech one...
Yeah, but on the other hand, if the first one blows (as the original POTF2
Han did), I wouldn't want to stop Hasbro from releasing an improved model.
The exception is when they (IMO) deliberately put out an "inferior"
product--and I'm thinking "Batman Beyond," where the closest thing you could
find to a "regular" character was the translucent blue version--then spring
a standard version on us in the third assortment.
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Do people actually prefer all
> variations, or would you be happy with good, "definitive" figures, maybe a
> few costume changes (but none of these Arctic Blast things), and instead
> variations, more characters?
Of course, I want a "definitive" character (and I agree with all of your
choices for definitive versions of the characters you mentioned), but I
realize that costume variations are inescapable. Much as I want secondary
characters, it's clear that the conventional wisdom is right...Batman will
always sell better.
Ideally, what I want is a mix of secondary characters (even if it's only one
or two per assortment) and costume variations *that make sense*--either
actual costumes derived from the source material, or reasonable
extrapolations that don't look stupid.
I don't mind a Bat-variation like Hover Jet Batman (from the Animated
line--dark purple "tech-look" costume, and a cool retro-looking hovercraft
thing). At least that one looks like something Bruce might conceivably have
in his Batcave.
The white Arctic ones even make sense, since a black outfit is going to
really suck if you're fighting gun-toting goons on a snow-covered landscape.
So do some of the fire-fighting versions--like the Animated version that's
currently on the pegs.
What I (and probably most of us) hate are the pastel-colored Batmen...color
choices that 1) serve no practical purpose, 2) are at odds with Batman's
intention to blend into the night and strike fear into the hearts of
criminals, and 3) look damned dorky.