How to avoid losing a dropped ski?
Bruce Koller
Does anyone know of a way to make a ski easier to find after being dropped?
I am thinking of transmittors (costs? waterproof?), bouys (drag?) etc
Appreciate any help, by email pls
Bruce
Brad
boats can't see til its too late.
Brad
Bruce Koller wrote in message <7oonu5$1r0a$1...@nnrp01.ops.uunet.co.za>...
Rick Hughes
upside down, the base is black and it is really difficult to find.
Especially as all my skiing is inshore coastal, not nice wave free lakes
or rivers.
The solution I used was to get hold of a torpedo float, type they use on
top of fishing nets, and some cheap ski lines. The type I used was
around 100 mm long 75 mm in diameter.
Take a length of paracord pass this though the hole in the float, fold
the cord down the side of the float and tie it at the base with a couple
of half-hitches. Then tie the two loose ends together in a non slip
reef knot.
This provides you with a float securely attached to a loop of paracord,
the half-hitches prevent the float moving along the cord.
Take the loop and pass it through one of the holes in the skis fin, and
when it sticks out through the hole pass the float through the 'loop' it
creates.
Pull tight and you have a securely fixed but very easily removable
float.
The loop length should be such that it is just long enough to pass the
float through. Thus when pulled tight the float is about 100 mm away
from the end of the ski.
The float is bright yellow, and aids tremendously in finding the ski.
The other option that I have considered is painting a strip down
underside of ski in some bright colour to aid finding.
Rick
Don't get worried about people complaining about dropping skis -
everybody has the right to learn.
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Hi
Does anyone know of a way to make a ski easier to find after being
dropped?
I am thinking of transmittors (costs? waterproof?), bouys (drag?) etc
Appreciate any help, by email pls
Bruce
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> Does anyone know of a way to make a ski easier to find after being dropped?
Paint the bottom a light color (white or yellow).
Use a drop buoy - search for "drop ski buoy" at http://www.overtons.com/
Have them drop it in a specific location. (e.g. near shore where
someone can wade out and grab it or near someone waiting in another
craft to pick it up).
If you can't do it away from traffic or can't get it picked up soon -
Don't do it!
Brad
teaches folks how to slalom.
Don't use a crutch - just go for it.
When I taught my kids to ski I threw 'em a slalom ski.
It takes patience but the reward is better if its done right.
Try draggin the rear foot, a deep V handle, a wider ski and I'm sure there
are other suggestions.
But dropping a ski in a public lake (especially on a weekend) will risk
harming other skiers/boarders, other boat's gelcoat and props, and loss of a
ski.
Brad
Rick Hughes wrote in message <37B0240C...@newbridge.com>...
>Does anyone know of a way to make a ski easier to find after being
>dropped?
>
Ron Young
the moment the skier drops a ski. The only thing the spotter has to
watch is that they throw it so the skier misses the bouy! With this
system, the bouy drifts at the same speed as the dropped ski, and when
you return to the bouy, the ski is not far away. Some black bottomed
skis are just about impossible to find if they flip upside down, but a
white bouy is not hard to spot.
Ron
Rick Hughes
Every time I have seen a video, book or article, it always progresses
the skier, to lifting a ski (The salute) to dropping - and then after
successfully learning to cut the wake on a mono to move to one ski
starts.
This may be seen as a pain to experienced skiers - but that does not
give them the right to stop learners - they were there once.
Obviously a boom may make the sequence different but that is not
relevant for a lot of recreational skiers / boat owners.
It is easier for me in that I ski on coastal waters and have huge water
area to drop the ski in. But then we have the technical problem that
you are trying to learn in waves & currents, and often cold water.
Rick
Tom Ruta
>This sort of flies in the face of everything on learning to mono.
>
Conventional thinking isn't always right it seems.
>Every time I have seen a video, book or article, it always progresses
>the skier, to lifting a ski (The salute) to dropping - and then after
>successfully learning to cut the wake on a mono to move to one ski
>starts.
>
This summer alone I've taught three absolute novices how to
get up on one ski - using only a training handle (didn't
want to other with the boom). All three start both feet in
now almost every time. As long as a skier is very
comfortable on two skis (wake jumps, etc.) and isn't a total
klutz for balance, they can be taught quickly - IF you have
the right equipment and a good driver.
Tom
Bill - Air Junky
> give them the right to stop learners - they were there once.
I'm not an expienced skier (unless you count Sky Skier) and have still had
problems with inconsiderate learners dropping skis in the middle of the
lake. Have you ever hit a dropped ski when riding a hydrofoil?! It's a
faceplant to remember. And when you come up & figure out what it was, and
that it could have easily been avoided, well, things tend to get pretty
heated.
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Scott Bennett
I missed where you're from, but in Texas you can get a citation for dropping
a ski if your caught. Many boaters here also carry cell-phones to report
this and other incidents.
Check your waterway rules and rights.
Scott
Bruce Koller <br...@cliffeng.com> wrote in message
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Philip Pointer
skiers increases. I know of ACL injuries caused by dropping a ski. And I'm
sure someone has run in to a dropped ski or two over the years.
Where do you ski? I want to make sure I don't put myself in the position of
potentially hitting your debris. If you're having trouble finding your dropped
ski, I'm sure I'll have trouble seeing it, too...
Bill MacIver
Tom Ruta wrote:
I was always taught to teach people by dropping a ski. I had never seen
anyone actually learn the first time without dropping (luckily we are on a
lake where we can drop the ski in a bay that is sheltered from other boat
traffic). My son had become proficient on two skiis and I was trying to
push him to drop one. He tried a few times and fell immediately. He then
told me he wanted to try right from the water with his back foot already
in. Well... a few tries (maybe 5) and he got up. So much for that
conventional wisdom.
Bill MacIver
Toronto, Ontario
Tom Ruta
>... Well... a few tries (maybe 5) and he got up. So much for that
>conventional wisdom.
Don't you just hate it when your kids prove you wrong??
Good for him!
Tom
Bill MacIver
Tom Ruta wrote:
Yeah, although it was offset by the satisfaction that he was up. What I
am really going to hate is when he gets better than I am. I figure that
should take another couple of weeks or so.
BTW, does anyone know when you should move a child to an adult ski. My
wife and I ski on her old but realiable O'Brien ski. I'm afraid it might
be too big for him but don't really know. Having just bought a
wakeboard, I really don't want to also purchase a separate ski for him.
Tom Ruta
...
>Yeah, although it was offset by the satisfaction that he was up. What I
>am really going to hate is when he gets better than I am. I figure that
>should take another couple of weeks or so.
>
LOL! Ain't that the sad truth. ;=)
>BTW, does anyone know when you should move a child to an adult ski. My
>wife and I ski on her old but realiable O'Brien ski. I'm afraid it might
>be too big for him but don't really know. Having just bought a
>wakeboard, I really don't want to also purchase a separate ski for him.
How heavy is he? What speed? Kidder makes a really nice
kid's version of the KD 3000 - even has the 7000 graphics -
down to 59" - good for mid twenties speeds and up. Other
than that, I know of no other good kids slaloms. But I'm
sure there are.
Tom
Tom Ruta
>..Having just bought a
>wakeboard, I really don't want to also purchase a separate ski for him.
The one other thing to watch for in sharing adult equipment
with kids is bindings: if you think a ski is expensive
(BTW, Overton's has the KD 3000 for under $250 USD), imagine
what reconstructive knee surgery for a child costs.
Tom
Mark Lenox
Tom Ruta wrote:
>
>
> This summer alone I've taught three absolute novices how to
> get up on one ski - using only a training handle (didn't
> want to other with the boom).
This is the way I learned. I was about 6 years old. I tried and tried
and tried to drop a ski but just couldn't do it. A couple tries getting
up deep water with both feet in and away I went. Especially for little
kids, I think it takes more strength to drop a ski than to just get up on
a nice big flat ski. The ski that I used was a handmade copy of a late
'50s era taperflex, a real beauty, that my father built. Long, wide,
straight edges and a deep fin. It would practically ski itself.
Mark Lenox
Ronald Koelink
safety we allways go out with two boats, soo one can pick up the ski
once dropped. The second boat is always about 50 meters behind the
skier on the side where he drops the ski. Works fine and save.
Also great for a nice video-shot.
Ronald
In article <7oonu5$1r0a$1...@nnrp01.ops.uunet.co.za>,
"Bruce Koller" <br...@cliffeng.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Does anyone know of a way to make a ski easier to find after being
dropped?
>
> I am thinking of transmittors (costs? waterproof?), bouys (drag?) etc
>
> Appreciate any help, by email pls
>
> Bruce
>
> br...@cliffeng.com
>
>
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> Tom Ruta wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > This summer alone I've taught three absolute novices how to
> > get up on one ski - using only a training handle (didn't
> > want to other with the boom).
>
> This is the way I learned. I was about 6 years old. I tried and tried
> and tried to drop a ski but just couldn't do it. A couple tries getting
> up deep water with both feet in and away I went. Especially for little
> kids, I think it takes more strength to drop a ski than to just get up on
> a nice big flat ski.
I think it takes more balance to drop one and more strength to deep water
start. But the ratio of strength to body weight/drag is quite good in
children.
> The ski that I used was a handmade copy of a late
> '50s era taperflex, a real beauty, that my father built. Long, wide,
> straight edges and a deep fin. It would practically ski itself.
>
> Mark Lenox
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DawsonDude
learning slalom is GETTING UP, not staying up. Getting up on combos is easy,
but after dropping one you are then doing what is the EASY part...staying up
on a slalom.
Steveinstl
than dropping a ski. I tried over and over, and would always lose balance
trying to kick the other ski.
Steve