1991 Mastercraft Prostar 190 Question...
Unknown
I feel like a total idiot for having to ask this... but where is the
battery located in a 91 Prostar 190? I just bought one used, and it
didn't come with an owners manual. I've looked in every place I can
think of for it, but have had no success.
TIA!
Philip Dhoedt
Probably there is no battery when you bought it secondhand
the former owner must have left it out
normally it is stored in the forward locker
next to the driver's seat
when you lift the cushion of the seat you will have a space
in the top of the boat
there you should see a black & a red cable
there the battery should be placed & attached to those cables
greetings
philip...@ping.be
belgium , europe
Mark Kovalcson
If I remember correctly some of the early 1991's may have also kept the
battery in back near the gas tank of all places. I think I heard this
from a 1992 MC owner, I have never seen this first hand.
If you don't see battery cables under the passenger seat try looking in
back. Take the rear seat out and then pull the rear carpeted tank cover
off. It clips in at the top so pull it from the bottom to get it off.
Congratulations on your new boat purchase!
Unknown
I found the battery... just like you said... it was behind the rear
seat. The boat is fantastic, but I don't think I'd design a boat with
a battery that hard to get to.
Thanks again!
On Sat, 30 May 1998 06:48:38 -0400, Mark Kovalcson <kova...@usit.net>
wrote:
Mark Kovalcson
Tiga wrote:
>
> I found the battery... just like you said... it was behind the rear
> seat. The boat is fantastic, but I don't think I'd design a boat with
> a battery that hard to get to.
Glad to be of help. MC did change the position of the battery by the
next year of production in 1992 and put it behind the observer seat in a
very accessible position. Batteries aside, I agree that your boat is
fantastic. If I were buying a boat a few years old I would definitely
consider the 91-94 ProStars. Many of us consider that the best hull
MasterCraft has ever produced. Oh and if no one has shown you how to do
a bat turn yet, when you drop a skier at 30+ mph, just drop it
completely out of gear and spin the steering wheel all the way to one
side or the other. Your boat will immediately spin about 180 degrees.
Just remember to pop it in gear again at the end of the spin so you
don't get water in your boat. Most of the newer boats can't execute this
manuver.
Later.
Michael Rothwell
Mark Kovalcson wrote:
>
> MasterCraft has ever produced. Oh and if no one has shown you how to do
> a bat turn yet, when you drop a skier at 30+ mph, just drop it
> completely out of gear and spin the steering wheel all the way to one
> side or the other. Your boat will immediately spin about 180 degrees.
> Just remember to pop it in gear again at the end of the spin so you
> don't get water in your boat. Most of the newer boats can't execute this
> manuver.
>
Every once in a while on this group, someone mentions that
the newer boats cant execute a bat turn. What boats are you
referring to? All that I have been in seem to execute the
turn just fine.
MR.
Mark Kovalcson
Michael Rothwell wrote:
> Every once in a while on this group, someone mentions that
> the newer boats cant execute a bat turn. What boats are you
> referring to? All that I have been in seem to execute the
> turn just fine.
I am not talking about just turning a boat around.
The CC Ski Nautique going back a number of years will not do a bat turn,
I'm not sure if any of their models ever did. None of the Malibu's based
on their SRV3 hull will do a bat turn. MasterCraft ProStar's since 1995
won't do bat turns. The new Supra Comp won't do a bat turn. Heck my old
1981 Ski Supreme won't do a bat turn even though I know many newer Ski
Supremes that can.
The 1987-1990 model ProStar hull while having a pretty hard wake at 22
off does a bat turn better than any other boat I have ever driven.
I'm curious what you are driving and what you consider a bat turn. My
definition involves dropping to neutral, turning the wheel all the way
to one side and having the boat slide around such that the nose of the
boat is pointing where the tail was in about 2 seconds. Only FLAT
bottomed boats can execute this manuver. The newer hulls with more vee
in them track better and are not inclined to let you slide the tail
around.
Bill Strom
My boat is a 1997 Prostar 190, While I may execute a bat turn a little
differently than your definition, the result is quit the same. no mine
won't slide around such as you describe, but if I kick the rear end around
very hard then it raises a little higher than the nose & spins around at
lightning speed. Maybe not the same technique, but it keeps them screaming
for more!!!
Mark Kovalcson <kova...@usit.net> wrote in article
<35736880...@usit.net>...
david_l_barcomb
Mark Kovalcson wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly some of the early 1991's may have also kept the
> battery in back near the gas tank of all places.
My 92 MC ProStar 190 has the battery in the back next to the gas
tank.
I hate to think what would happen if the battery ever blew up and set
of the gas tank. Seems like it would make those blower stories pale
in comparison.
Is there any chance of the above happening?
> I think I heard this
> from a 1992 MC owner, I have never seen this first hand.
>
> If you don't see battery cables under the passenger seat try looking in
> back. Take the rear seat out and then pull the rear carpeted tank cover
> off. It clips in at the top so pull it from the bottom to get it off.
It's actually pretty easy to get at.
>
> Congratulations on your new boat purchase!
Dave Barcomb
david_l_barcomb
I had the same problem when I first bought mine. I had a mechanic
do the initial inspection and the battery was fine so I never
thought about it. One day my friends and I were checking out my boat
and we cound not find the battery. We finally gave up and forgot
about it. A month later we were checking out the gas tank for some
reason and all of sudden we also found a battery when we pulled
out the rear carpeted pad that covers the gas tank.
Dave Barcomb
Michael Rothwell
Mark Kovalcson wrote:
>
> Michael Rothwell wrote:
>
> > Every once in a while on this group, someone mentions that
> > the newer boats cant execute a bat turn. What boats are you
> > referring to? All that I have been in seem to execute the
> > turn just fine.
>
> I am not talking about just turning a boat around.
>
> The CC Ski Nautique going back a number of years will not do a bat turn,
> I'm not sure if any of their models ever did. None of the Malibu's based
> on their SRV3 hull will do a bat turn. MasterCraft ProStar's since 1995
> won't do bat turns. The new Supra Comp won't do a bat turn. Heck my old
> 1981 Ski Supreme won't do a bat turn even though I know many newer Ski
> Supremes that can.
>
> The 1987-1990 model ProStar hull while having a pretty hard wake at 22
> off does a bat turn better than any other boat I have ever driven.
>
> I'm curious what you are driving and what you consider a bat turn. My
> definition involves dropping to neutral, turning the wheel all the way
> to one side and having the boat slide around such that the nose of the
> boat is pointing where the tail was in about 2 seconds. Only FLAT
> bottomed boats can execute this manuver. The newer hulls with more vee
> in them track better and are not inclined to let you slide the tail
> around.
The SV23 Hulled Malibu that I usually drive executes the bat
turn just fine, and exactly as you describe. Admittedly, my
buddy's 91 ProStar might spin a little tighter, but not
significantly. When drop to nuetral and spin the wheel to
one side, the boat does a perfect 180 and sits just off
center of the original boat path. Maybe your definition of
a bat turn is different than mine, but my definition is just
as you described, and I enjoy splashing occupants on an
occassional bases.
Michael.
Robert Muse
>The CC Ski Nautique going back a number of years will not do a bat turn,
You are right, but the pre-2001 would very well because of it's flat
bottom.
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I hope they make a boat you like, but...
I'm glad Correct Craft makes Ski Nautiques.
Richard Clark
Why on earth would you want to do such a manuver(spelling)? It is dangerous
and very hard on the boat. I saw a Ski Supreme with the motor detached from
the stringers because he was showing off. Please be careful! I am done
preaching now Rick
Frank Maier
Richard Clark wrote in message <6l225a$9...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
'cause it's fun! I don't care if it's hard on the boat. I didn't buy the
boat as a museum-quality display piece. I bought it to USE.
Frank (Besides, the bat turns shake out some of the deeply buried sandwich
pieces and chip crumbs from the upholstery.)
Mark Kovalcson
Richard Clark wrote:
>
> Why on earth would you want to do such a manuver(spelling)? It is dangerous and very hard on the boat.
Besides dragging on the underwater gear, the boat swings like a pendulum
in a very smooth manner. I think that you put more stress on your engine
mounts driving in choppy water. I could be wrong, but it doesn't feel
harsh.
The important thing to make sure of is that the people in the boat are
comfortable with this manuever. The guys that I ski with do this enough
that you just make sure you hold on whenever a skier falls and the
engine drops to neutral. As with anything else what feels natural and is
expected for some is unnerving for others. BTW we NEVER execute this
manuver with passengers in the back (splash zone).
> I saw a Ski Supreme with the motor detached from the stringers because he was showing off.
I drove and skied behind a Ski Supreme(not mine) that was driving around
with 3 rotted motor mounts before the owner realized it. I would hope
most people would know the condition of their boats, but many do not.
Wood stringer boat owners should try to torque those engine mount lag
bolts every year to make sure they are actually holding the engine down.
> Please be careful!
Amen. That should always be a given out on the lake.
KENGIBBONS
>Richard Clark wrote:
> Why on earth would you want to do such a manuver(spelling)? It is dangerous
>and very hard on the boat.
We keep our kids informed on family finances, and when we bought our '94 205,
they knew how much it cost because they were in on the pros/cons discussion of
spending that much money on a boat. They were 10, 7, and 5 at the time. Kids
talk, and they innocently told the neighbor kids how much it cost when they
were asked. The information immediately telegraphed to the neighbor parents,
who thought we were nuts to spend that much for a "little" boat. They thought
it was much better to buy a Bayliner twice as big for the same price.
Anyway, we had boating activity one Saturday for our church's youth. Other
congregation members showed up with their massive wally boats. The youth all
jumped in them, except for a few very perceptive ones who had the best ski
pulls of their lives behind our boat.
Near the end of the day, when all the boats were parked, I asked if any of the
adults would like to go for a "SPIN". I took them out, and told them I was
going to make a tight turn, and to hang on. Out of respect for my request,
they lightly grabbed a handle, pylon, etc. I said, "no, really hang on". Once
everyone was clamped down, I did a 40 mph bat turn. They freaked out. And
they asked for more. When we were done, everyone was soaked from water flying
over the boat. From the superb skiing and handling, they finally could see
that it isn't just a "boat", it's a MasterCraft. That much money? Yup, and
it's worth it.
That's one reason for a bat turn, I guess. On the other hand, my wife hates
them cause they make her dizzy.
Footer
On Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:05:13 -0400, Mark Kovalcson <kova...@usit.net>
wrote:
>snip<
>The important thing to make sure of is that the people in the boat are
>comfortable with this manuever. The guys that I ski with do this enough
>that you just make sure you hold on whenever a skier falls and the
>engine drops to neutral. As with anything else what feels natural and is
>expected for some is unnerving for others. BTW we NEVER execute this
>manuver with passengers in the back (splash zone).
>snip<
Mark,
OK. So some boats do bat turns better than others. But doesn't this
throw a roller down the lake (in the wrong direction) so that your
water is screwed up for several minutes before you can take your next
run through the course?
JMHO,
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Footer wrote:
>
> OK. So some boats do bat turns better than others. But doesn't this
> throw a roller down the lake (in the wrong direction) so that your
> water is screwed up for several minutes before you can take your next
> run through the course?
>
I am afraid that in general, you will only find the barefoot boats observing
the "no power turns" rule. When everyone on our river is keeping the power
turns and rollers to a minimum it acommodates more boats and is a lot nicer.
I wonder how many people out there have ever even heard of the concept or
considered how much the big power turns quickly degrade the glass.
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I am afraid that in general, you will only find the barefoot boats observing
the "no power turns" rule. When everyone on our river is keeping the power
turns and rollers to a minimum it acommodates more boats and is a lot nicer.
I wonder how many people out there have ever even heard of the concept or
considered how much the big power turns quickly degrade the glass.
I totally agree. When I first joined our ski club, everyone told me to idle
into the course so that it would not throw a roller down the course; and yet,
when a skier falls and is unhurt, it is perfectly allright to sling the boat
around with great force to pick up this skier. All the while leaving a tsunami
to run laterally down the course.
When greeting a barefooter on the open water, rarely do slalom skiers drop to
neutral and idle. Oh well, part of it, I guess.
Greg Wait
> I am afraid that in general, you will only find the barefoot boats observing
> the "no power turns" rule.
I disagree. We wakeboard predominantly, and slalom some. We signal after
falls RELIGIOUSLY, and so long as the boarder or skier is okay, we idle
back to them. This not only keeps the rollers to a minimum, but gives
them a chance to catch their breath.
> When everyone on our river is keeping the power
> turns and rollers to a minimum it acommodates more boats and is a lot nicer.
AMEN! I wish I could say most do this, but most seem to see screaming
back to a downed skier as a separate sport of its own. It's hard not to
get mad when I watch them screw up the water, but it's not my lake.
> I wonder how many people out there have ever even heard of the concept or
> considered how much the big power turns quickly degrade the glass.
Most have probably never considered the alternative.
Greg
Mark Kovalcson
sco...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Footer wrote:
> >
> > OK. So some boats do bat turns better than others. But doesn't this
> > throw a roller down the lake (in the wrong direction) so that your
> > water is screwed up for several minutes before you can take your next
> > run through the course?
> >
> > Footer
>
> turns and rollers to a minimum it acommodates more boats and is a lot nicer.
> considered how much the big power turns quickly degrade the glass.
For starters no one barefoots in this cove. There is a cove up the lake
that the barefooters liked to use, but now it has wakeboarders riding
back and forth and it takes a great deal of time for those rollers to
dissipate. Second there is a huge difference between a bat turn and a
power turn. In a bat turn there is no throttle applied. This cove I ski
in has a ski course and a jump in it and is only part of 800 miles of
shoreline. Second at some water levels there is very little backwash
generated. On the other hand when the backwash is bad with rollers
coming in after the second or third set sometimes it pays to do a bat
turn pull the skier up and take another pass before the rollers come
back or to beat incoing boat rollers from the channel.
We pick and choose when to do this manuever depending on conditions and
the situation. Many times we do idle back around to get the skier.
There are situations when this will cause more of a problem with
rollers. We are typically skiing alone, very early in the morning and
are not aggreviating anyone. By 10-11AM the water is so choppy from
boat rollers off the channel, most people just give it up.
krb...@ezl.com
The first thing I have to do when a 3 event type driver gets in my boat is no
power turns sends rollers down the lake. Unless I am hurt please idle back
sends rollers to shore.
sco...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Footer wrote:
> >
> > OK. So some boats do bat turns better than others. But doesn't this
> > throw a roller down the lake (in the wrong direction) so that your
> > water is screwed up for several minutes before you can take your next
> > run through the course?
> >
> > Footer
>
> I am afraid that in general, you will only find the barefoot boats observing
> the "no power turns" rule. When everyone on our river is keeping the power
> turns and rollers to a minimum it acommodates more boats and is a lot nicer.
> I wonder how many people out there have ever even heard of the concept or
> considered how much the big power turns quickly degrade the glass.
>
bberi...@aol.com
In article <6la87q$fbr$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Folks,
When looking for smooth water after skier drop-off, try going into neutral and
coasting at sub-idle speed for a long '5' count. Then gently turn 180, and
go back into the center your own wake. Beats making a big turn and having to
power thru the roller.
Betty Bonifay (sp?) tought it to us.
Barry Berisford
Lake St. Louis Waterski Club
