Dyna-Ski Boats
One of the Pfankuch's
Dyna-Ski boats are affordable Outboard Powered Tournament Style Water
Ski Boats 17.6 and 20 feet in length. Boats are copies of the Hydrodyne
Outboard Boats.
Web site is being updated as you read this. Visit it at
www.dyna-ski.com
New 20' Open Bow is GREAT! 65 mph (GPS) with the 250 Etec with a 22
pitch prop.
New 17.6 Open Bow in development along with a Closed Bow Ski Team 20'
Boat.
Let the flogging begin!
Pete
Tom Ruta
<pfan...@cybrzn.com> wrote:
>Dyna-Ski Boats is still alive.
...
:)
>New 20' Open Bow is GREAT! 65 mph (GPS) with the 250 Etec with a 22
>pitch prop.
16K US with no trailer or motor makes the all-in package not very
competitive to an inboard though, doesn't it? Although Since the
death of the intro-inboards, I guess there's a gap.
JJG
at under 20K. Missed that price point (unless that 20k was with a 10HP.
"Tom Ruta" <ru...@cadvision.com> wrote in message
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waterskiing greg
I am wondering if these outboard boats are really a great choice for skiing.
I have an outboard boat and when a person of lets say 200 lbs crosses the
wake the boat tracks with the pull of the skier. And I don't believe that
this boat has a mid hull skeg for better tracking. I'm going to imagine a
great wake with that flat transom.
What do you think about the tracking of this boat.
This website that you found is kind of limited in tech specs about their
boats.
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Tom Ruta
<grego...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>hi pete,
>I am wondering if these outboard boats are really a great choice for skiing.
Sure - just depends what kind. Like for barefooting, this thing will
likely be the bomb. :)
>I have an outboard boat and when a person of lets say 200 lbs crosses the
>wake the boat tracks with the pull of the skier. And I don't believe that
>this boat has a mid hull skeg for better tracking. I'm going to imagine a
>great wake with that flat transom.
I'm pretty sure it has at least one tracking fin or maybe more. The
Original Dynes back in the 60s had them.
>What do you think about the tracking of this boat.
>This website that you found is kind of limited in tech specs about their
>boats.
It will never compete with a Ski Nautique - but that does not mean it
is bad, per se. What will kill it is the price of the motor and
trailer. Unless you are footer of course.
JohnH
> likely be the bomb. :)
Why is an outboard boat a better choice for barefooting?
Doug Meredith
"JohnH" <johnh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Sure - just depends what kind. Like for barefooting, this thing will
>> likely be the bomb. :)
>
> Why is an outboard boat a better choice for barefooting?
Because it can run and maintain the speed that they need, which an inboard
can't.
JohnO
Really? I think the folks at Sanger and Mercruiser would disagree! ;-)
One of the Pfankuch's
Excellent barefoot wake and descent wake board wake with weighting.
I know one dealer that sells the 17.6 boats for around 17K or slightly less with
a 150 Mercury Optimax motor and Karavan trailer. The 150 Mercury Optimax motors
are former show ski team motors (used) with 3 years of warranty left.
The 17.6 will perform descent with a 115. Most folks will even be able to foot
with the 115.
The 20' really needs at least a V-6 for the same performance level.
I own the company and can connect you with owners of our boats.
You can also arrange for a test ski with one of our dealers.
What else would you like to know that is not contained in the history pages?
Web site will change as my webmaster gets time. Free also work means slows.
Watch for some new pictures in the next week or two.
Pete
One of the Pfankuch's
warranty) for less than 20K. See other post.
Early buyers of the 20' may be near that price point with a 20' if they are OK
with the used 150 motors (with a warranty) the dealer has available. Speed and
power costs more money with a 20'.
My local Dyna-Ski dealer is very aggressive with his pricing. He is willing to
sell boats with minimal mark up. Makes his money on service after the sale along
with accessories. He also sells inboard boats.
Last time I checked inboard prices they were in the high 20's and up. Can
someone enlighten us further?
Pete
Tom Ruta
<pfan...@cybrzn.com> wrote:
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>Last time I checked inboard prices they were in the high 20's and up. Can
>someone enlighten us further?
Apples to apples (new, not used motors or low end trailers) you will
find that the DS is very close to a base inboard.
JJG
rides?
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Gregory McGuire
What I want is a video of your boat performing. This is your boat company
and your website, it is not much effort to put a video on your website and
show the boat in action. A video similar to the waterski mag website with
boat reviews, is what gets me excited about a new skiboat. And when your
website mentioned
Hydrodyne, I went to the internet and they make a pretty nice skiboat but
where is the video showing their boat in action.
Also I went to twin lakes marine on the interenet and the ski hut on the
internet and not even a mention of your boats.
If you didn't say anything about your boats I would not have even known
there is a Dyna-Ski Boat. So, how are you gona sell boats at your dealers if
they are not advertised (in this case on the internet).
I would expect that if you contacted the editor of waterskimag.com you can
get your boat reviewed.
If I was in the market for a new boat I want a boat that is rot proof.
Stringers that cannot rot. Seats that will resist the sun forever. A transom
that will never break or rot. A boat that turns sharp, tracks well, handles
rough water, I noticed that the outboard has gunnels slightly low, but that
is ok. I need to see it in action. No I am not in the market for a new boat,
I have a boat.
For the outboard, I don't know which direction the prop turns, but on my
boat, the steering wheel and controls are on the starboard side and the prop
torque has a tendency to the starboard side. Since you are the owner of the
company please design your boat with this consideration. Your transom is
pretty flat I don't know how much this is a factor. When I am in my boat by
myself the boat leans to starboard uncomfortably. When would anybody in a
skiboat be driving alone... when a group of people in excess of the load
capacity requires 2 trips for dock to beach and then you have to shuttle
them back to dock at the end of the day.
Don't forget, most people out there are not hard core waterskiers. It is the
nature of boating to just want to get out and adventure, ski a little, and
eat food. A boat can be a ski boat and also a versatile boat for a family.
Boat storage... My boat is 16'2", and it just fits into my garage with my
washer/dryer behind it and enough room to walk behind it and open a door
just behind it. A 20 footer is a boat that people are leaving on the
driveway or paying 1200 bucks a year to store. If there was a perfect ski
boat it might be Dyna-ski "they're still alive"
What else goes into making a great boat...
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JJG
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........
. When I am in my boat by
> myself the boat leans to starboard uncomfortably. When would anybody in a
> skiboat be driving alone...
many states do NOT require an observer. When my wife and i lived in
florida, the answer to this question was easy, almost ALL the time. We
could just jump in the boat and go without a 3rd! Made it really easy to
get those early morning runs in!
JohnH
>> Why is an outboard boat a better choice for barefooting?
>
>
> Because it can run and maintain the speed that they need, which an
> inboard can't.
Interesting; I have no problem barefooting with my inboard. Why "can't" one
run and maintain that speed?
Tom Ruta
wrote:
45-47 with 3 or 4 crew? What do you have for an inboard?
trainfan1
Ours will BF just fine too, even w/ 6 on board will run 48 mph.
Rob
Tom Ruta
<lmse...@usdatanet.net> wrote:
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>Ours will BF just fine too, even w/ 6 on board will run 48 mph.
>
Which boat/engine combo? That is pretty impressive.
JohnH
>>>> Why is an outboard boat a better choice for barefooting?
>>>
>>>
>>> Because it can run and maintain the speed that they need, which an
>>> inboard can't.
>>
>> Interesting; I have no problem barefooting with my inboard. Why
>> "can't" one run and maintain that speed?
>>
> 45-47 with 3 or 4 crew? What do you have for an inboard?
1988 Sunsetter w/ 454. I often barefoot with more than 3 or 4 in the boat as
well. Then again I usually don't need 45+ to barefoot either.
trainfan1
http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/31/f6/cd_3.JPG
That's with the factory 14" pitch prop and 4600-4700 rpm. We will pick
up a couple/few mph with a 15", bringing the rpm down to about 4300-4400.
Rob
Marty
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Me too, but then as a DXII owner I'm a bit partial.
But for the perfect barefootin' pull you need an airplane ;-)
One of the Pfankuch's
be appreciated.
Pete
One of the Pfankuch's
I believe in simple easy loading web sites so it is unlikely that I'll ever add
video to the web site. Or more simplify put I always think "dial up" access.
That is my yard stick for web sites. I think that people shop boats on the web
but buy in person. I'm anxious to be proven wrong though.
I make my living in the Sports Broadcasting business so making a great video is
the easy part. Generally videos don't really show much. I'd be inclined to
offer a video as a DVD when I feel the time is right. Might even be High
Definition when I do it. The weather is cold here so it won't happen before
next summer.
Ski Hut web site is new and under development. Not sure why Twin Lakes has not
added anything. You'd have to ask them why. They do have a new 17.6 in their
showroom. Twin Lakes was the biggest Hydrodyne dealer in the country so they
knew how to sell the boats. I think that they still do!
Most of our customers are folks that have skied behind a friends similar boat.
Good luck finding a "rot proof" boat. My 1987 Hydrodyne is holding up very well
with it's balsa core construction, wood stringers, floor and transom. Rear seat
needs to be replaced due to wear and tear. Time to update the interior look
besides. Seems like wood holds up pretty well if properly cared for. My boat
sits on a boat lift all summer long. I still have the same boat cover and it is
the only protection for the boat on the lift.
It is good that you have found a boat that fits your needs, garage and budget.
My wife would not want to do the laundry in the garage so I have room in my
garage for all my personal boats and cars but less room in the house perhaps.
We offer a 17.6 boat and a 20' boat as these sizes are a good fit for most
people. We feel that our current two sizes of boats are pretty versatile. We
may build a bigger boat and a smaller boat in the future. Strictly a financial
decision when and if it will happen.
The minimum size of a boat is somewhat determined by the US Coast Guard Rules
and Regulations. I really feel that a V-6 Outboard is necessary to get great
power and performance so my boats need to be big enough to allow a V-6 and fall
within the current Coast Guard R & R. Our 17.6 can handle 150 hp according to
the current R & R. Acceptable performance can be had on smaller boats with a V-4
or even a 3 cylinder. I just like more horsepower so a person can barefoot
water ski (at 45+ mph if they like) and still haul plenty of people at the same
time. Our 17.6 will do fine with a V-4 but people seem to like more power!
Water Ski magazines like boats and products of manufacturers that advertise in
their magazines. We are not ready to do that just yet. In the near future we
will likely do that.
I know what our new boats, new outboards and new trailers cost dealers. If a
dealer wants to sell our 17.6 boats with a new motor, nice new trailers and stay
under $20 K it can be done. The outboard motors are getting expensive and some
dealers buy them for a lot less than other dealers. I try to let dealers
determine their own selling prices which is why I put a suggested retail price
for only the boats on the web site.
You'd really be amazed at the manufacturer & dealer mark up on typical inboard
boats.
Pete
Tom Ruta
Have you actually spec'ed that with a GPS? What engine??
Tom Ruta
<pfan...@cybrzn.com> wrote:
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>Good luck finding a "rot proof" boat. ..
Uhhh... just about any boat WITHOUT wood.
...
>The minimum size of a boat is somewhat determined by the US Coast Guard Rules
>and Regulations. I really feel that a V-6 Outboard is necessary to get great
>power and performance so my boats need to be big enough to allow a V-6 and fall
>within the current Coast Guard R & R. Our 17.6 can handle 150 hp according to
>the current R & R. Acceptable performance can be had on smaller boats with a V-4
>or even a 3 cylinder. I just like more horsepower so a person can barefoot
>water ski (at 45+ mph if they like) and still haul plenty of people at the same
>time. Our 17.6 will do fine with a V-4 but people seem to like more power!
>
There's a reason why the Tique and other small ski/baord boats
disappeared. Can you guess?
>Water Ski magazines like boats and products of manufacturers that advertise in
>their magazines. We are not ready to do that just yet. In the near future we
>will likely do that.
Don't waste your money - Really.
>
>I know what our new boats, new outboards and new trailers cost dealers. If a
>dealer wants to sell our 17.6 boats with a new motor, nice new trailers and stay
>under $20 K it can be done.
Please provide some proof. With a decent outboard running way over
10K I'd like to see that.
JohnO
Nah, I'd be happy enough with a DXII, expertly driven by the Bdweiser
girls not wearing much.
trainfan1
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:22:46 -0400, trainfan1
> <lmse...@usdatanet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Tom Ruta wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:50:25 -0400, trainfan1
>>><lmse...@usdatanet.net> wrote:
>>>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ours will BF just fine too, even w/ 6 on board will run 48 mph.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Which boat/engine combo? That is pretty impressive.
>>
>>http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/31/f6/cd_3.JPG
>>
>>That's with the factory 14" pitch prop and 4600-4700 rpm. We will pick
>>up a couple/few mph with a 15", bringing the rpm down to about 4300-4400.
>
>
> Have you actually spec'ed that with a GPS? What engine??
Yup... just this summer for the first time. I was slightly
disappointed, as we thought it was a 51-52 mph boat going by the
Teleflex speedo & the under-hull pickup w/ equalization tube.
What you have to realize, though, is this is not a Ski Nautique. It's
actually a Mustang 16, w/ 220 hp Palmer/Crusader/ThermoElectron 302
Ford. The previous owner gave it the "custom" Nautique make-over.
The whole thing only weighs around 1800 lbs.
Rob
One of the Pfankuch's
Call a dealer. But then you're a inboard owner and always will be.
Tom Ruta
<pfan...@cybrzn.com> wrote:
>
>Call a dealer. But then you're a inboard owner and always will be.
Unfortunately with only two - both in Wisconsin, there's few to call.
But let's play, shall we? 10K for a decent motor (merc) and a cheapo
trailer for 2500. That means your boat is only 7500? I'll take one.
really. I'd prefer the 20 footer, but the 17 footer would be fun.
One of the Pfankuch's
and trailer ready for you to pick up. Or if you prefer, 50% down will hold
the purchase until spring of 2006 with free storage until then.
You are responsible for all your state and local taxes as well as
registration or licensing.
Pete
Tom Ruta
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:33:53 -0600, One of the Pfankuch's
One of the Pfankuch's
about the same and I have one of each available in Black.
What Mercury motor would you prefer?
If you desire speed performance similar to an inboard a 115 hp 2 stroke will be
plenty fast enough and much cheaper on fuel. Not sure that the performance of
115 four stroke will be enough for you. Or pick a motor and I'll see what I can
do as I don't know the Mercury line up very well right now. I'm waiting on my
new OEM Motor information packets.
Pete
Tom Ruta
<pfan...@cybrzn.com> wrote:
>What trailer would you like? Shoreland'r, Karavan or Eagle? They all cost
>about the same and I have one of each available in Black.
>
I have a trailer .
>What Mercury motor would you prefer?
>If you desire speed performance similar to an inboard a 115 hp 2 stroke will be
>plenty fast enough and much cheaper on fuel. Not sure that the performance of
>115 four stroke will be enough for you. Or pick a motor and I'll see what I can
>do as I don't know the Mercury line up very well right now. I'm waiting on my
>new OEM Motor information packets.
>
I'd say a 150 four stroke since 2's are near death.
What about a boat only deal? I have relative in the east that could
pick it up.
One of the Pfankuch's
Etec motors use less oil not counting oil changes and less fuel than the 4 strokes.
They are so smooth and quiet!
How about $17,000 for a Water Ready White with Blue Gel Coat Striped 17.6 XB with a
trailer and a used 2004 Mercury 150L Opti with warranty until 4/15/09?
Any other takers out there? Money talks!
I will still make a deal on a boat only but I have to get a price from a dealer.
This pricing is from a dealer. List price is $12,999.99 for the boat.
Make me an offer I can relay.
Pete
Gregory McGuire
to find what a used dyna was going for. How many boats are you producing a
year. Is there a certain production to be listed on NADAGUIDES, as a boat
manufacturer.
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> Dyna-Ski Boats is still alive.
>
> Ski Boats 17.6 and 20 feet in length. Boats are copies of the Hydrodyne
> Outboard Boats.
>
> Web site is being updated as you read this. Visit it at
> www.dyna-ski.com
>
> New 20' Open Bow is GREAT! 65 mph (GPS) with the 250 Etec with a 22
> pitch prop.
>
> Boat.
>
> Let the flogging begin!
>
> Pete
>
>
>
One of the Pfankuch's
listed in ABOS when we built them before. Not sure if we are still in ABOS or
not but I do fill out the paper work that they send me every year.
We build as many boats as we have orders for. They have really been a built to
order boat up to this point and still sort of are. You may find it hard to
believe but very few owners ever sell their outboard powered "Hydrodyne" or
Dyna-Ski boats not the same for other folks.
Hydrodyne did less than 100 outboards per year at their peak. Our best year
was around 30 as I recall. I expect us to be doing one per week in the next
year or so.
Pete