Are there any other sports/games like volleyball?
Your Name Here=Harvey
against other sports?
Sum up volleyball, and ask yourself - are there any other
sports like it?
I just wonder if there are any other offshoots/variations off
it? Like beach volleyball differs from standard indoor volleyball,
which can likewise be played outside, on grass?
Something remotely similiar? is that ball game from the
Malaysia? region, except that the foot is used, and a much smaller
ball - with no hand or arm contact.
I guess there could be an introductory version of volleyball,
played with a very light very soft volleyball, with children in mind -
but also suitable for beginners (adults) - probably much like the
original volleyball when it first started. Just making contact with the
ball and having fun with it, with 3 hits.
Harvey
Todd Haverkos
> Something remotely similar is that ball game from the Malaysia
> region, except that the foot is used, and a much smaller ball - with
> no hand or arm contact.
That's Sepak Takraw, extremely popular in Southeast Asia including
Laos, Thailand, Indonesia, and Malaysia. It's played on a roughtly
badminton height (chest high) net with a small rottan ball and played
entirely with the feet, and is nutty.
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Bruno Wolff III
> ki...@ing.notin.aus (Your Name Here=Harvey) writes:
>
>> Something remotely similar is that ball game from the Malaysia
>> region, except that the foot is used, and a much smaller ball - with
>> no hand or arm contact.
>
> That's Sepak Takraw, extremely popular in Southeast Asia including
> Laos, Thailand, Indonesia, and Malaysia. It's played on a roughtly
> badminton height (chest high) net with a small rottan ball and played
> entirely with the feet, and is nutty.
>
> http://takraw.webark.org/
I have also seen people playing a similar game using a hacky sack over a
badmitten net.
There is also a 9 man version of volleyball.
Your Name Here=Harvey
How is the 9 man version played? On a standard volleyball court?
Harvey
Todd Haverkos
> How is the 9 man version played? On a standard volleyball court?
http://www.volleyball.org/nineman/rules.html
And these pics were posted to RSV a about 2 years ago of the new york
9-man tourney:
http://www.east32ndst.com/album/categories.php?cat_id=46&page=2
Quadruple blocks are kewl.
John
I've heard they play in Brazil where you play volleyball soccer-style
(volleyball court and net, but a soccer ball and no hand play allowed).
John
http://johnpruess.blogspot.com
Philip Kendall
Your Name Here=Harvey <kiwi...@paradise.net.atearoa> wrote:
>I'll guess that volleyball seems to be unique
>against other sports?
>
>Sum up volleyball, and ask yourself - are there any other
>sports like it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volleyball#Variations
Please improve any bits which are wrong :-)
Cheers,
Phil
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Philip Kendall <pa...@srcf.ucam.org>
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Paul G. Wenthold
things have to be to be "like" volleyball.
For example, I argue that to a certain extent, volleyball is like other
net sports, including tennis, table tennis and badmitton. The only
differences are in the number of players, the size/nature of the ball,
and, to an extent, the nature of scoring (not so much in the days of
RPS). However, the fundamental _goal_ of the competition is the same -
as Rob Peglar says,
1) Keep the ball from terminating in your side of the court
2) Return it to the other side
3) Repeat as necessary
In fact, I consider "net sports" to be a subset of "goal sports" in
general, where the object of the game is to deposit the ball into a
"goal". This is pretty clear in sports like hockey, football, soccer,
and basketball, but we can consider "the other side of the court" to be
the goal. The difference in net sports than in most goal sports is that
it is not just sufficient to get the ball into the goal, you have to
keep it there (others have argued that net sports, for this and other
reasons, deserve their own category).
These are clearly different from the other types of sports, such as
_target_ sports (bowling, archery, darts, curling), baseball and
derivatives, and racing.
I haven't decided where golf goes. I probably consider it a goal sport,
but it has a lot in common with the target sports (including no active
defense).
So when we ask "are there any sports like volleyball?," I argue that at
some game-theory level, even hockey is "like" volleyball. But that is
just the geek in me.
pgw
Your Name Here=Harvey
I guess what strikes me as being different in volleyball, is how the
ball is handled - which seems to be unique among all the sports?
I wonder if the techniques used in volleyball can lead to a completely
different game? variation...
Maybe some kind of Volleysoccer? Where you spike into a goal?
Or VolleyNetball? Or Volleybasketball? Where you can't hold onto the ball
for any length of time... Maybe trials will lead to some interesting
variations on volleyball?
Volleybadminton would be fun, played with a very lightweight soft
volleyball on a badminton court and net.
Harvey
Paul G. Wenthold
The ball is received, passed around, and then sent toward the goal. I
don't see how that makes it "unique among all sports." In fact, it is
the common feature of most goal sports. Things like tennis and
badmitton are the outliers in this regard.
It is pretty much unique for net sports, at least the passing part, but
if you buy my categorization of net sports as a subset of goal sports,
then it is not unique at all, little different from something like team
handball, for example.
I think at the level where you want to claim it unique, pretty much
every sport is unique. That's what makes them different in the first place.
You could just as well say that the use of a shuttlecock makes badmitton
unique among all sports.
paul
Your Name Here=Harvey
What I was trying to point out, was that in a lot of the
sports, you use a 'bat' or 'racket' - to hit the ball with.
eg. a bat in cricket or baseball/softball.
And you're not catching the ball as in basketball or netball.
And so volleyball is different in this regard.
And so what games/sports are there - in which you use your hands
in which to hit the ball with?
In soccer you're kicking the ball with your feet, and in
rugby/football you're running with the ball and tackling players
to gain possession of the ball.
Badminton falls into the bat and ball game category, except you're
using a shuttlecock instead of a ball.
Harvey
Philip Kendall
Your Name Here=Harvey <kiwi...@paradise.net.atearoa> wrote:
>
>in which to hit the ball with?
>
>In soccer you're kicking the ball with your feet, and in
>rugby/football you're running with the ball and tackling players
>to gain possession of the ball.
>
>Badminton falls into the bat and ball game category, except you're
>using a shuttlecock instead of a ball.
Every sport is unique if you define enough criteria; personally, I don't
see this as a particularly interesting or surprising result :-)
Mike Mc.
>>in which to hit the ball with?
Ve La
Worth noting that the 9-man version in North America is sanctioned only
for players with some Chinese ancestry.
It's controversial, to be sure.
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