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Wasel Chemij

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May 3, 1994, 4:34:48 PM5/3/94
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How much, if at all, would sand and seawater damage
a new leather indoor volleyball?

Vas

Mike Kwan

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May 3, 1994, 5:05:12 PM5/3/94
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Wasel Chemij (v...@vas.dcs.aber.ac.uk) wrote:


: How much, if at all, would sand and seawater damage

: a new leather indoor volleyball?

: Vas

A Lot.

Doyen T. Klein

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May 4, 1994, 3:47:32 PM5/4/94
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Well sand will scratch the surface and sortof beat it up, but you
can still use it. Water of anykind, on the other hand, will
ruin it, make it heavy and useless.
I have a ritual taught me years ago to prepare beach balls, which are
more more prone to seawater, and it involve putting saddle (leather) soap
on the panels, but you have to be careful not to get it on the
stiching, as it will tend to rot. Indoor stiching is less visable,
but you want a lighter ball, so I don't do anything like this
for indoor balls. I suspect if you got it wet, you'll probably just
have to buy another.

--
.dtk It says little, does less, means nothing.

Joshua D. Wachs

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May 6, 1994, 9:10:17 AM5/6/94
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In article <2q8u4k$i...@mizar.usc.edu>, dkl...@mizar.usc.edu (Doyen T.
Klein) wrote:

> I suspect if you got it wet, you'll probably just
> have to buy another.
>

Doyen or anyone...

Is there a way to clean an indoor v-ball? It would seem to make sense that
a slight cleaning would help balls that are suffering from nothing more
than an overdose of dust and gym-grime.

-- Joshua
-- jos...@natural.com

Eric Wang

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May 6, 1994, 1:09:21 PM5/6/94
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jos...@natural.com (Joshua D. Wachs) writes:
>Is there a way to clean an indoor v-ball? It would seem to make sense
>that a slight cleaning would help balls that are suffering from nothing
>more than an overdose of dust and gym-grime.

I've found that you can erase the grime from a ball with any
standard pencil eraser. But this is a very tedious method.

(Of course, what you're really doing is abrading off the top layer
of leather, which carries the grime away with it as it goes. Don't
repeat this treatment too often.)

Eric Wang
wa...@sml0.ge.uiuc.edu

Jim Armstrong

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May 9, 1994, 10:55:03 AM5/9/94
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In article <joshua-06...@joshua.natural.com> jos...@natural.com
(Joshua D. Wachs) writes:
>Is there a way to clean an indoor v-ball? It would seem to make sense that
>a slight cleaning would help balls that are suffering from nothing more
>than an overdose of dust and gym-grime.

Here are three relevant articles from last fall. Sounds like
mink oil and saddle soap will do the trick.

Jim


Article 5912 of rec.sport.volleyball:
From: tm...@cc.bellcore.com (Tom Mok)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Q: treatment of leather vballs
Keywords: volleyball care Loose-Bladder-Construction
Message-ID: <1993Aug19....@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Date: 19 Aug 93 14:36:20 GMT
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In article <1993Aug18....@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
t...@callisto.pas.ro chester.edu (Tim ``Churl'' Collins) writes:
|> I just got a $50 leather Tachikara indoor ball, and I have a question
|> about care: Is it ok/good to use a silicon based softener-preservative
|> on it? The softener is made to be used on leather shoes, and I
|> thought it might help the ball as well. Has anyone every done this?
|> Any opinions?

Yes, I have. I have done this to both the indoor and outdoor
balls, especially the outdoor ball. I use a cleaner (whose brand
name I can't recall at this moment), which is made to clean
sneakers to clean the ball. Then I apply a leather
softener/protectant made by Timberland to the ball. The outdoor
ball get dirty very easily, so the cleaner brings its white back.
If you are going to use your expensive indoor ball outdoor, you
should use some sort of leather protectant on it. Chances are
you will get your ball wet, and the protectant will help. I
really don't like silicon oil in general, because it gives the
ball that fake shine look. Other than these, it doesn't hurt the
ball a bit.

Tom Mok


Article 5925 of rec.sport.volleyball:
From: t...@dsinc.com (Timothy Loesch)
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Subject: Re: Q: treatment of leather vballs
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 17:14:05 GMT
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Keywords: volleyball care Loose-Bladder-Construction

In article <1993Aug18....@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> t...@callisto.pas.roc
hester.edu (Tim ``Churl'' Collins) writes:

>I just got a $50 leather Tachikara indoor ball, and I have a question
>about care: Is it ok/good to use a silicon based softener-preservative
>on it? The softener is made to be used on leather shoes, and I
>thought it might help the ball as well. Has anyone every done this?
>Any opinions?

I give mine a light treatment of mink oil every 2-3 months and use saddle
soap to clean it if needed. Keeps it soft, supple and clean. I'll be trying
the same on my next outdoor ball as well, since mink oil is also water
resistant.
*************************************************************************
* Tim Loesch * The more numerous the laws, *
* t...@dsinc.com * the more corrupt the government. *
*************************************************************************



Article 6127 of rec.sport.volleyball:
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: h...@bnr.ca (Roger Seelaender)
Subject: Re: Which outdoor ball should I buy?
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.1...@brtph560.bnr.ca>
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:39:42 GMT
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In article <27623o$p...@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, rjo...@buzzard.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones) writes:
|> My Spalding Top-Flite has gotten too egg-shaped to play with any more,
|> so I'm going to buy a new outdoor ball. I wanted to see if anybody had
|> any opinions on which ball I should buy. I want to get a leather ball,
|> and Spike Nashbar sells the following:
|> Mikasa King of the Beach
|> Mikasa Beach Pro
|> Tachikara Beach Head
|> Spalding Top-Flite
|> Spalding AVP (which is the same as the top-flite but has a blue logo, right?)
|>
|> Can anybody tell me the relative tradeoffs of these balls? I'd like somethin
g
|> that's soft, but will stay round for a relatively long time. My old top-flit
e
|> had a very nice feel, but it got egg-shaped way too fast.
|>
|> Thanks for your help,
|> Randy Jones

Hey Randy,
I recently got a BRINE, the one endorsed by Brian Lewis, on sale for $34.99
at Sports Unlimited. After several tournaments with it, it is still round and
proportioned (size, weight) about equal to the Top Flite. Weekly treatments
with Saddle Soap and Mink Oil have kept it nicely white and soft.

Doyen T. Klein

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May 9, 1994, 1:17:28 PM5/9/94
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Eric Wang had a good 'tip' - use a soft eraser.

John Murray

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May 5, 1994, 12:04:56 PM5/5/94
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In article <2q6ea8$m...@hp-col.col.hp.com> kw...@col.hp.com (Mike Kwan) writes:
>From: kw...@col.hp.com (Mike Kwan)
>Subject: Re: Indoor Volleyball Outside
>Date: 3 May 1994 21:05:12 GMT

>Wasel Chemij (v...@vas.dcs.aber.ac.uk) wrote:

>: Vas

>A Lot.

Depends on the make, i.e. normal expensive stiched balls will take mega
strain, where as patched glued balls wont take that much strain under these
conditions.

You'll be a Woes to use one on the Beach anyway!

John M.
South Africa

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