German Volleyball terms?
Isabel1130
My daughter's high school team has acquired a foreign exchange student
from Germany who is going to play this year. I speak a little German and her
English is pretty good but specialized terms may be a problem for her and for
our coach. Anyone here know what they call all the positions in German (middle
hitter etc) and any other terms that might be helpful to explain the
differences in the rules? Thanks in advance for any help. Kate
Snogfest Hosebeast
well as most young Germans do, then she will want to learn the English
terms anyway.
I'll mail a couple of Germans I know and ask if they can find out for
you, but I think you'll find European volleyball will be quite a lot
different to US....
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Isabel1130
I lived in Germany for three years and I know what you mean about German's
learning English quickly however I also know that slang and specialized terms
confuse them.
I talked to the girl a few days ago and it was clear she was very unfamiliar
with the terms that we use to describe positions and plays and also not really
as comfortable with English as many Germans that I have met. I know that she
played volleyball for several years in Germany ( I assume in a club) and a
brief synopsis of the rules that they play under that might differ from HS
rules here would help our coach get her up to speed quickly. We are all very
excited because our team is a little weak in the middle and this girl is 6'2".
Thanks again, Kate
Christian Perrier
>Dear Snogfest,
> I lived in Germany for three years and I know what you mean about German's
>learning English quickly however I also know that slang and specialized terms
>confuse them.
Be patient... There are some people in this newgroup from Germany,
but they are maybe on holidays (in France, probably...:-)). If your
question isn't answered, feel free to ask it again in a few weeks.
Also try to find the Web site of the German VB federation starting
from the European VB Confederation Web site (http://www.cev.lu). You
may find there the german terms you need.
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Oliver Stehmann
Hi!
My English isn't very good, but I'm from Germany and I play Volleyball.
To make it short...the positions are:
4 3
2
Aussenangreifer Mittelblocker/Hauptangreifer Steller
5 6
1
Aufschlaeger
The positions 5 and 6 don't even have special terms.
I don't think the rules differ very much, your exchange student will learn
them very soon.
If you have any further questions write back!
Bye
Oliver
e-mail-adress: Oliver.A...@recht.uni-giessen.de
Oliver Stehmann
Christian Perrier
And the probable english (and french as well) terms so that Isabel
may understand more easily (french won't help : I just take this
occasion...) :
>Aussenangreifer Mittelblocker/Hauptangreifer Steller
Outside hitter Middle blocker Setter
(F) Attaquant/réceptionneur (F) Contreur central (F) Passeur
>
>5 6
>1
>
>Aufschlaeger
Opposite
(F) Pointu
As far as I understand, a hitter is called "Angreifer" in german and
hitting is "angreifen". Setting the ball is probably "stellen"
(stoll/gestollen?). Am I wrong?
What is the term for service? Service reception? Block (blocken?)
Another term which could help :
Rally
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Rainer Perske
Hello,
You are quite right:
Hitter = Angreifer
Hitting = angreifen / er greift an / er griff an / er hat angegriffen
(But: The English word "hit" does not have the same meaning as the German
word "angreifen". I'd translate "angreifen" as "to attack". Dependend on
the situation, "to hit" may be translated as "schlagen" (the usual form of
attacking), or "spielen" (every kind of intentional contact), or
"berühren" (any contact, especially not-so-hard contacts or unintentional
contacts), or other words. There is no German word with the same meaning
as "to hit"; in `normal' language I'd like to translate "to hit" as
"treffen", but that does not fit very good here.)
Setter = Steller
Setting = stellen / er stellt / er stellte / er hat gestellt
Blocker = Blocker
Blocking = blocken / er blockt / er blockte / er hat geblockt
Opposite = Diagonalspieler
Group block (?) = Gruppenblock (2-3 players blocking together)
Service = Aufgabe (used in rule text) or Aufschlag (preferred by me,
because Aufgabe has two very different meanings: to serve or to give up)
Service player = Aufgabespieler or Aufschlagspieler or Aufschläger
Serving = aufschlagen / er schlägt auf / er schlug auf / er hat aufgeschlagen
or = aufgeben / er gibt auf / er gab auf / er hat aufgegeben
(but whenever you say "aufgeben", I understand "to give up")
Service reception = Annahme
... = annehmen / er nimmt an / er nahm an / er hat angenommen
> Another term which could help :
>
> Rally
Fault = Fehler
Rally = Spielzug
Rally point system = no german word yet, describe it e.g. "jeder Spielzug
führt zum Punktgewinn"
Referee/Umpire = Schiedsrichter
The referee on the stand = 1. Schiedsrichter
The referee on the floor = 2. Schiedsrichter
Line judge = Linienrichter
Scorer = Schreiber (the old word Anschreiber is still used very often)
Playing the ball above the net in the opponent's half (reaching over?)
= übergreifen / er greift über / er griff über / er hat übergegriffen
Touching the opponent's court
= übertreten / er tritt über / er trat über / er hat übergetreten
Intrusion into the opponent's half (in the air)
= Eindringen in den gegnerischen Raum
Touching the net = Netzberührung
Timeout = Auszeit
Change = Spielerwechsel
Win of rally = Spielzuggewinn
Win of point = Punktgewinn
Win of game/set = Satzgewinn
Exchange of courts (?) = Seitenwechsel
Win of match = Spielgewinn
Loss of ... = ...verlust
Faults commited simultaniously on both sides = Doppelfehler
The word Doppelfehler is also used for replay situations
or for the replay sign by the referee.
Rotation = Rotation (spoken as German word)
Position = Aufstellung or Position
Overlap fault (?) = Aufstellungsfehler
Net = Netz
Post = Pfosten
Rope(s) (???) = Spannseil(e)
Verwarnung | Bestrafung | Herausstellung | Disqualifikation
Warning | Penalty | Expulsion | Disqualification
Delay (of game) = Verzögerung
Injury = Verletzung
Recovery time = Wiederherstellungszeit (a horrible word in German!)
Exceptional change = ausnahmsweiser Spielerwechsel (definitely wrong
German because an adverb is used as an adjective, but it is used in our
rule book)
unable to play = spielunfähig (drunken or injured)
Hope this helps :-) Ask if you need other translations into German :-)
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WWU Münster Zentrum für Informationsverarbeitung (Uni-Rechenzentrum)
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PatBB
franzoesichen Sprachen aus dem US-Bundesstaat Ohio und auch
Volleyballer der "B"-Klasse
mit "BB"-AMBITIONEN. Deutsche hatten mich das Wort
"Zusteller" fuer "setter" gelehrt, aber spaeter besuchte ich
Wien, wo man lieber "Aufspieler" sagte. Anderes:
bump=baggern=manchette, pritschen=hit ball with setting
hands, der Schmetterball=spike, der Fehlaufschlag=service
error/fault=faute de service, das As(?)=service ace, das
Wechsel(literally '(ex)change')=1. side out;
2.substitution. In return for this, I would like to learn
the German rating systems of skill levels. On a German vb
website I saw words such as: Hobbyspieler, Bezirksliga,
Landesliga, usw. and I would like a comparison to OPEN AA A
BB B CC C REC.
Vielen Dank,
PatBB.
dank
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Glen Cook
Rainer Perske wrote in message ...
<lots of German terms versnippened>
>unable to play = spielunfähig (drunken or injured)
>Hope this helps :-) Ask if you need other translations into German :-)
- --
>Rainer Perske
Is being drunken and therefore unable to play a common occurance in German
volleyball leagues??
A curious beer drinker,
Glen
Christian Perrier
>Hope this helps :-) Ask if you need other translations into German :-)
Rainer, I was just meaning you when I previously mentioned that some
very informative people from Germany are in this group.... You just
confirm my assertion..:-)
Well, what about a new part in rsv FAQ with a kind of multi-lingual
volley-ball dictionary? I see this as a table like this (just nicer) :
English German French Spanish Italian Klingon
Service Aufgabe Service ? Battuta $ù%#é&
.../...
(people in the very interesting it.sport.volley could help for
italian)
All great US contributors first build the list of terms to be
translated.
You would take German, I take French
Are takes norwegian
And Kevin adds australian....:-)
We need someone for Klingon.
(BTW, I just think that I have already seen something like this on a
Web site somewhere...)
--
Rainer Perske
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Glen Cook wrote:
> Rainer Perske wrote in message ...
> >unable to play = spielunfähig (drunken or injured)
> Is being drunken and therefore unable to play a common occurance in German
> volleyball leagues??
How can one live with all those new rule changes without being drunken ;-)
> A curious beer drinker,
:-)
cu
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Rainer Perske (Webmaster/News/System/PGP-Admin)
WWU Münster Zentrum für Informationsverarbeitung (Uni-Rechenzentrum)
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http://www.muenster.de/~perske (Privat/Sport; darf geDUzt werden)
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Rainer Perske
Hello,
> Ich heisse PatBB. Ich bin Student der deutschen und
> franzoesichen Sprachen aus dem US-Bundesstaat Ohio und auch
> Volleyballer der "B"-Klasse
> mit "BB"-AMBITIONEN. Deutsche hatten mich das Wort
> "Zusteller" fuer "setter" gelehrt, aber spaeter besuchte ich
> Wien, wo man lieber "Aufspieler" sagte. Anderes:
> bump=baggern=manchette, pritschen=hit ball with setting
> hands, der Schmetterball=spike, der Fehlaufschlag=service
> error/fault=faute de service, das As(?)=service ace, das
> Wechsel(literally '(ex)change')=1. side out;
> 2.substitution. In return for this, I would like to learn
> the German rating systems of skill levels. On a German vb
> website I saw words such as: Hobbyspieler, Bezirksliga,
> Landesliga, usw. and I would like a comparison to OPEN AA A
> BB B CC C REC.
I do not know the meanings of your levels, but I'm interested, could you
please explain?
In Nordrhein-Westfalen (One of 16 states Germany consists of),
these leages/divisions (German: Liga, pl. Ligen, or Staffel,
pl. Staffeln) exist for adults:
1. Bundesliga \ common names for whole Germany
2. Bundesliga > (there are one 1.BL, two 2.BL, and eight RL
Regionalliga / per sex in Germany
Oberliga \ (two OL per sex in Nordrhein-Westfalen)
Verbandsliga \
Landesliga \
Bezirksliga > names may vary from region to region
Bezirksklasse / normally each level down doubles the numbers
Kreisliga / of parallel leagues, but there are exceptions
(1.) Kreisklasse (not everywhere - not enough teams)
2. Kreisklasse (rarely found - not enough teams)
Additionally you can find recreational leages (Hobbyliga), sometimes
with similar names as above, e.g. Hobbyliga and Hobbyklasse like Kreisliga
and Kreisklasse, but that really varies from county to county, from city
to city.
There are 2-3 youth leages for each youth age (A oldest, F youngest),
there are championchips for seniors (older that 32, 38, 44 ... years,
age limits depend on sex), etc.
Please ask if you want to know more :-)
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Rainer Perske (Webmaster/News/System/PGP-Admin)
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Engler Jean-Luc
- 1. Bundesliga (first division in Germany) professional players most
- 2. Bundesliga (second division in germany split in 2 part south and
north)
professional and semi professional players
- Regionalliga split in I think 8 regions
- Oberliga more splittings
- Landesliga
- Verbandsliga
- Kreisliga
- Kreisklasse
I think that is more or less the ranking. But again this is depending on the
Region you play in as some like Bayern are switching the names !
Hobbyspieler got their own division this is like a pub division. They really
play for fun and they most enjoy the 3rd half.
Glen Cook wrote:
> Rainer Perske wrote in message ...
>
> <lots of German terms versnippened>
>
> >unable to play = spielunfähig (drunken or injured)
>
> >Hope this helps :-) Ask if you need other translations into German :-)
> - --
> >Rainer Perske
>
> Is being drunken and therefore unable to play a common occurance in German
> volleyball leagues??
>
Snogfest Hosebeast
> Rainer Perske (Webmaster/News/System/PGP-Admin)
> WWU M=FCnster Zentrum f=FCr Informationsverarbeitung (Uni-
Rechenzentrum)
> http://www.uni-muenster.de/URZ/Mitarbeiter/RainerPerske.html (Beruf)
> http://www.muenster.de/~perske (Privat/Sport; darf geDUzt werden)
>
none of the umlaute characters came through....
Christian Böhm
Engler Jean-Luc schrieb:
> I can give you the german ranking:
>
> - 1. Bundesliga (first division in Germany) professional players most
> - 2. Bundesliga (second division in germany split in 2 part south and
> north)
> professional and semi professional players
> - Regionalliga split in I think 8 regions
> - Oberliga more splittings
> - Landesliga
> - Verbandsliga
Korrekte Einteilung (WVV only):Oberliga
Verbandsliga
Landesliga
Bezirksliga
Bezirksklasse
> - Kreisliga
> - Kreisklasse
>
eventuell noch Stadtliga A und B sofern vorhanden
MfG
Christian