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Pool-Swimming Equivalent of Running 26 Miles & 385 Yards

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Roger

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Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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I have the impression that the world record for the mile (swimming) is
somewhere
between 15 and 17 minutes. A SWAG ... for a champion freestyle swimmer,

swimming 6.2 miles would take about 20 minutes a mile, call it 2 hours.
But the
world record for the marathon is 2:05 to 2:10, I have the impression.
So I was
thinking the swimming equivalent would be maybe 11 Km, a little under 7
miles.

Anyway this seemed like a good place to get an answer to this kind of
question.

Yesterday I managed 5K in 1:16. I'd like to do the
swimming-marathon-equivalent
in under 3 hours.

~T~I~A~

Roger


APH5

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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We have a "swiimer's marathon" we doeach February: 100 x 100 yds; do them on a
2:00 interval. Do them slowly at first. We allow one 5:00 pee break at the
halfway point. It's a great group swim. Jim Harris Wilkes-Barre Tri

ro...@organic-electric.com

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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Sounds like fun ... that would be 99 x 2:00 + maybe 1:30 for the last
laps ... 199 1/2 minutes ...
3 hours 19 1/2 minutes. Where's it located -- and are people who swim
straight thru, no
intervals, welcome ??

Actually, I am looking for the cardiovascular equivalent of the 26 miles
385 yards.
There may not be a body-stress equivalent, since the swimming is
decidedly low-
impact.

Anybody have one of those Guiness world record books ?? Does it have
records for pool-
swimming distances beyond 1500 ??

I know Susie Moroney did the Cuba-to-Florida Swim at a pace exceeding 3
miles/hour ...
but there are "extenuating factors", like currents, and swimming in a
shark cage.

Either way, I'll still be ... swimming. Time to shave and learn
kick-turns !!

Roger

hu...@my-dejanews.com

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Feb 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/2/99
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In article <36B5C7...@organic-electric.com>,

ro...@organic-electric.com wrote:
> Sounds like fun ... that would be 99 x 2:00 + maybe 1:30 for the last
> laps ... 199 1/2 minutes ...
> 3 hours 19 1/2 minutes. Where's it located -- and are people who swim
> straight thru, no
> intervals, welcome ??

Two weeks ago, the RUBA swim team in New Jersey did 100x100m (long course).
The top group completed it in 2:36 (4 rounds of 6x100 on 1:40, 6 on 1:35, 6
on 1:30 6 on 1:25, 6 on 1:20 and 1 on 3 mins for recovery). It went by
pretty quickly and I found it much easier than running a marathon. (Of
course, I come from a swimming background, runners may beg to differ!) Don't
know that you really could compare the 2 - running is so much more stressful.
Maybe a 15k swim would be more equivilent cardiovascularly (just
speculation). Next year they are talking about doing 100x200 to bring in the
new century...

-hug

>
> Actually, I am looking for the cardiovascular equivalent of the 26 miles
> 385 yards.
> There may not be a body-stress equivalent, since the swimming is
> decidedly low-
> impact.
>
> Anybody have one of those Guiness world record books ?? Does it have
> records for pool-
> swimming distances beyond 1500 ??
>
> I know Susie Moroney did the Cuba-to-Florida Swim at a pace exceeding 3
> miles/hour ...
> but there are "extenuating factors", like currents, and swimming in a
> shark cage.
>
> Either way, I'll still be ... swimming. Time to shave and learn
> kick-turns !!
>
> Roger
>
> APH5 wrote:
> >
> > We have a "swiimer's marathon" we doeach February: 100 x 100 yds; do them
on a
> > 2:00 interval. Do them slowly at first. We allow one 5:00 pee break at the
> > halfway point. It's a great group swim. Jim Harris Wilkes-Barre Tri
>

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Jeff Cook

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Feb 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/2/99
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It isn't in the pool but ...

In Taupo, New Zealand, the venue for IMNZ, there is a 42km swim across the lake for
teams of 1-6 swimmers. This race is next month (I think) and is called Dawn to
Dusk. It has a 12 hour cut off and you have to bring your own support boat.

For the metrically challenged 42km = 26miles + change. i.e. it is a true marathon
swim.

Regards

Jeff "who would have to exceed his 1500m race pace to cheat the the cut-off" Cook

Roger

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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Do you think it might be possible to do an event like this, except swimming
continuously, like the -- what is it -- 1500 in the Olympics ??

I'm essentially thinking of the cardiovascular equivalent of running a
marathon.
Presuming that both an Olympic-class swimmer and a runner have maximalized
cardiovascular systems, I want to see how I do against a milestone like the
marathon, except in the water. In other words, if you do 12K in 3 hours, is
this comparable to running 26.22 miles in 3 hours, as a way to assess your
training practices ... but without the additional tissue tears or whatever
that occur
during a running marathon.

This is not to imply that the swimming is pain-free ... one of the main
things I
concentrate on when swimming for time is "making my triceps feel the pain"
and they do end up feeling highly appreciated.

Roger

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Ken Lehner

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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Roger wrote:

> This is not to imply that the swimming is pain-free ... one of the main
> things I
> concentrate on when swimming for time is "making my triceps feel the pain"
> and they do end up feeling highly appreciated.

Wouldn't it be better if your lats felt the pain?

Ken Lehner

Dave Aggett

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Feb 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/4/99
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In article <36B8AC4F...@lucent.com> Ken Lehner <kle...@lucent.com> writes:
>From: Ken Lehner <kle...@lucent.com>
>Subject: Re: Pool-Swimming Equivalent of Running 26 Miles & 385 Yards
>Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:06:39 -0500

>Roger wrote:

>Ken Lehner

I think your lats would feel the front half of your stroke, and the triceps
the back half of your stroke, generally speaking. I know until I learned to
make my triceps do their share, my stroke was short and choppy and even slower
than it is now.

DA

Roger

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Feb 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/4/99
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I guess you're referring to the latissimi dorsi, as in what you work when
you do "lat pulldowns".

As far as which muscle feels the pain ...
my lats never complain.

But it's not for lack of trying.

I'm curious ... how might I modify my freestyle stroke so as to
share the burden a little more evenly with my lat's. ??

~T~I~A~

Rog


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