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exk7

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In article <76dtv5$bth$1...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>
"Nick Munting" <n...@ozemail.com.au> writes:

> There's a method to my madness as I commentate at a few races down under and
> we really want to tune the atmosphere to the athletes... Hope you can all
> help in this one.

I promise you I don't like Whitney Houston. Really. Really. I don't.
But for atmosphere at a triathlon, you can't beat Give Me One Moment
In Time. It was written (I think) for the Olympics a few years ago and
Whitney almosts yodels her way through it, very effectively.


Ruth Kazez

Stephen Fleck

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Well, If I was ever stuck on the dreaded indoor bike trainer for the rest of my
life and only had access to 10 CD's(Desert Island Discs), this weeks list that
has come to me quickly( next weeks might be different) would be, in no
particular order of preference:

1. Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn & Michael Brook - Musst Musst
2. Cocteau Twins - Treasure
3. Pat Metheny - As falls Wichita So Falls Wichita Falls
4. Brian Eno & David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
5. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
6. Simple Minds - New Gold Dream(81-82-83-84)
7. Genesis - The Lamb lies Down on Broadway
8. Hilliard Ensemble & Jan Garbarek - Officium
9. Afro-Celt Sound System - Volume I, Sound Magic
10. China Crisis - Working With Fire and Steel: Possible Pop Songs Part II

This weeks honorable mentions ie. they may be on by next week depending on mood.

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Tangerine Dream & others - Sound Track to Risky Business
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Kraftwerk - Autobahn/Tour de France
The The - Soul Mining

I am sure the above listed 10 CD/LP's as I believe some( China Crisis) are only
availabale on vinyl would keep me going on the old windtrainer without audio
burn-out for some time.

Steve Fleck

"Nick Munting" <n...@ozemail.com.au> writes:
> OK, enough of the flames from irate trainees, enough of the right wheels,
> right attitude etc.... I am probing for some deep and meaningful
> information after reading Mark Lemmon's recent post about music.
>
> I'd like to compile a top 100 for triathlon - actually two top 100 music
> hit's charts ... The music you train to and the music you the triathlete
> want
> to hear at a race!


>
> There's a method to my madness as I commentate at a few races down under and
> we really want to tune the atmosphere to the athletes... Hope you can all
> help in this one.
>

> PS: Don't worry about an individual 100 hits each...I'm sure the personal
> top 10 from each will give me the right info... and I'll share the final
> list with rst for sure - promise!
>
> Regards
> Nick Munting
> ni...@auto-focus.com
>
> PS II: Check the OZTri Diary at www.auto-focus.com/oztridiary and the
> world's long distance news at www.extremetri.com
>
>
>
>
>


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At pre-race?
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Bernie Hall

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* "The Boys of Summer"- Don Henley *
"Born to Be Wild" - Steppenwolf
"Run to You" - Brian Adams
"Hysteria" - Def Leppard
"Into the Great Wide Open" - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
"Dreams" - Van Halen
"Main Street" - Bob Seger

Nick Munting wrote:

> Song titles is what we need guys... keep 'em coming....let's go for the all
> time top 100 triathlon tunes be it before during or after competition!

bhall.vcf

Tricia Richter

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In article <76ed4f$fqt$1...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>, "Nick Munting"
<n...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> Song titles is what we need guys... keep 'em coming....let's go for the all
> time top 100 triathlon tunes be it before during or after competition!

Nick, this ain't NEVER gonna work. From past threads on this topic, it
has become clear that the majority of trigeeks are hopelessly stuck in a
time warp (pick a decade, any decade!) and cannot agree upon what
constitutes "good" race venue music. On the other hand, it's probably
safe to say that most would say that Barry Manilow should not make the
list.

Having said all that, for what it's worth, here's what I'd like to be hearing:

Blues Traveller: Runaround
Spin Doctors: Two Princes
Cake: The Distance
U2: I Will Follow (what we BOPpers do all day...)
Bauhaus: Kick in the Eye (perfect for the swim, eh?)
The Cure: In Between Days, Love Cats, Close to Me
Depeche Mode: Everything Counts, A Question of Time, Work Hard
Dramarama: Anything, Anything
Echo & the
Bunnymen: Never Stop! (perfect)
Chameleons UK: Swamp Thing
INXS: I Send a Message
Icicle Works: Whisper to a Scream
Kraftwerk: Tour de France
Missing Persons: Give
Indigo Girls: Closer to Fine
Psychedelic Furs: Love My Way, The Ghost in You, Heaven
The Smiths: The Queen is Dead, This Charming Man, How Soon is Now?
Smashing Pumpkins:Zero, Today
Soft Cell: It's a Mug's Game
Dominatrix: The Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight
Sisters of Mercy: This Corrosion, Lucretia--My Reflection
Tears for Fears: Head Over Heels
10,000 Maniacs: These Are Days
The Replacements: I Will Dare
Tones on Tail: GO!!
XTC: Senses Working Overtime
Nine Inch Nails: Down In It
The Clash: Rock the Casbah, Should I Stay or Should I Go?
Simple Minds: New Gold Dream, Don't You Forget About Me
Siouxsie &
the Banshees: Dazzle, Dear Prudence
The Verve: Bittersweet Symphony
Harvey Danger: Flagpole Sittah
Nitzer Eb: Fun 2 B Had
Prince: When Doves Cry, I Would Die 4 U, Controversy
Ministry: Work For Love
Malcolm McLaren: Madame Butterfly
CCCP: American Soviets
New Order: The Perfect Kiss, Blue Monday
Propellerheads: History Repeating
Collective Soul: Gel
Motorcycle Boy: Here She Comes
Kitchens of
Distinction: Drive


OK, OK, I'll stop now! Sorry. Gee, it's not obvious which decade *I'M*
mostly warped in, is it?

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Art Courville

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Only 10, hmmm . . . not sure i would call these my all-time
top ten, but here's what comes to mind today:

Man in the Long Black Coat - Joan Osborne
Whole Lotta Love - Led Zepplin
God Shuffled His Feet - Crash Test Dummies
Where Have all the Cowboys Gone - Paula Cole
Standing in the Doorway - Bob Dylan
Celebrity Skin - Hole
Jungleland - Bruce Springsteen
Misgided Angel - Cowboy Junkies
Kooks - David Bowie
Car Wheels on a Gravel Road - Lucinda Williams

Bernie Hall

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Two More!
========
"Everybody Wants to Rule the World" - Tears for Fears
"That Was Yesterday" - Foreigner
bhall.vcf

Nick Munting

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Paul Wilson

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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G'day Nick

> I'd like to compile a top 100 for triathlon - actually two top 100 music
> hit's charts ... The music you train to and the music you the triathlete
> want to hear at a race!

Personally, it depends on what time of the day it is and whether it is
pre or post race. These notes are from my personal racing preferences
and from those I find as a commentator myself.

For those early morning starts I can only cope with that "surreal" kind
of music that the 'Three Chimneys' (Sri Chinmoy) team are famous for.
Something soft and gentle to get me on my way. Preferably instrumental
only.

For the later morning/afternoon/evening starts I am already well awake
and so like some upbeat stuff. I find if I can get a song into my head
that has a good tempo then it sticks with me for the event and I race
well. Slow tune - slow race!

For example:

Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
Midnight Oil - almost anything

After the race I find that a broad range of music goes down best. As you
are almost always chatting with fellow athletes you do not seem to
notice individual songs as much, but rather just get 'the vibe' as it
were. A real party kind of atmosphere.

Hope this helps. I look forward to seeing the list.

Happy New Year
Paul (PB) Wilson

PS - Nick, email me re IMNZ if you are going to be there!

Nick Munting

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JHansen882

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I like your decade...ALL of em are great tunes...

Mark Lemmon

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Apart from "I Am Tri-Geek," my faves would include:

"Where the Streets Have No Name" -- U2
"I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" -- U2
"With or Without You" -- U2
"Born to Run"
"Thunder Road"
"Rosalita"
"This Hard Land" -- all four by Bruce Springsteen
"Running on Empty" & "The Load Out/Stay" -- Jackson Browne
"Just One Victory" -- Todd Rundgren
"Country Road" -- James Taylor (live version)
"Ironman" -- Cardigans
"Ain't No Stoppin Us Now" -- McFadden & Whitehead
"Do It ('Til You're Satisfied)" -- BT Express
"Corner of the Sky" -- The Jackson Five
"Joy to the World" -- Three Dog Night: perfect for an Ironman finish
line

John Forrest Tomlinson

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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In <tricia-3012...@mac-mueller.stanford.edu>
I guess I'm about the same age (and not a triathlete) but as these are
the days also for indoor training on the bike, treadmill, etc, and
given that I love almost every single song mentioned above (and will
get my hands on the ones I don't recognize) how about (and this is
newer stuff):

The Crystal Method: Trip Like I Do, Busy Child
Sugar Cubes: Blue Eyed Pop, Motorcrash
Monaco: Junk
Electronic: Freefall
Shamen: Move Any Mountain
Deee-Lite: Good Beat, Bittersweet Loving
Pet Shop Boys: Always on My Mind.

I'll also admit to listening to (particularly towards the end of severe
interval workouts and before important races) White Zombie (esp More
Human than Human) and Prodigy (Breathe plus a song with an offensive
title I won't specify). Oh yeah, and Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Relax
(does that date me or what???!!!)

JT

JT

Stephen Fleck

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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Me thinks I mis-read Nicks' post It seems he was lookng for individual
songs/tunes for his music list. I will give this another go then:

1. Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn & Michael Brooke - "Musst Musst" from Musst Musst
2. Japan - "Gentlemen Take Polaroids", Live version
3. Tone Loc - "Cutting Rythmns", from Loc-ed After Dark
4. Massive Aattack - "Tears" from Mezzanine
5. Tangerine Dream - "Love on a Real Train", from Risky Business sound track
6. Genesis - "Back in NYC", from The Lamb lies Down onm Broadway
7. China Crisis - "Wishful Thinking" from Working with Fire and Steel
8. Cocteau Twins - "Aikea Guinea" from Aikea Guinea EP
9. Pat Metheny - "As Falls Wichita so Falls Wichita Falls" from As Falls Wichita
10. The The - "Giant" from Soul Mining

Also:

Police - "Walking on the Moon" from Zeyatta Mondetta
Simon Harris - "Bass(How low can you Go)" Raggamuffin Mix from EP of the same
name
Dream Academy - "Love"(extended mix) from EP of the same name.
Porno For Pyros - "Pets", from self titled first album
Peter Gabriel - "Zaar" from Passion sound track to the Life of Jesus Christ

Again like my list of albums this is this weeks list of songs/tunes that just
popped into my head. Of course I could start to look through my 400 LP's( yep,
good old vinyl) and 200CD's and come up with the list of lists, but that could
take all day. And this is also just pop, we have not got into jazz, classical or
choral, then I might be at this for weeks.

Steve Fleck

Nick Munting

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Sensational guys, keep it going - we could get the right music mix for the
ultimate triathlon through this thread!

Mike Bundy

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Sisters of Mercy and no mention of "Temple of Love" ???

-- MB.

Tricia Richter wrote in message ...


>In article <76ed4f$fqt$1...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>, "Nick
Munting"
><n...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>

>Nick, this ain't NEVER gonna work. From past threads on this topic, it
>has become clear that the majority of trigeeks are hopelessly stuck in
a
>time warp (pick a decade, any decade!) and cannot agree upon what
>constitutes "good" race venue music. On the other hand, it's probably
>safe to say that most would say that Barry Manilow should not make the
>list.
>
>Having said all that, for what it's worth, here's what I'd like to be
hearing:
>

Mike Bundy

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Well Nick,

I guess you'd better make sure you have Billy Idol's "White Wedding" --
just in case... :)

(you had to be at IMA-98)

-- MB.

Nick Munting wrote in message
<76dtv5$bth$1...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>...


>OK, enough of the flames from irate trainees, enough of the right
wheels,
>right attitude etc.... I am probing for some deep and meaningful
>information after reading Mark Lemmon's recent post about music.
>

>I'd like to compile a top 100 for triathlon - actually two top 100
music
>hit's charts ... The music you train to and the music you the
triathlete
>want
>to hear at a race!
>

Sanjay

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Wagner = Ride of the Valkyries
Holst = The Planets - Mars the bringer of War
Tchakovisky = 1812
Joe Satriani = Surfing with the Alien
Queen = We are the Champions
Queen = Another one bites the Dust
Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan = Musst Musst
Louis Armstrong = Its a Wonderful World
Fine Young Cannibals = Good Thing
Van Morrison = Gloria

This is what turns my crank, perhaps not everybody's.... :-).

Cheers,
Sanjay


Andrew McNett

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Uhm...

"Nothing Else Matters" - Metallica
"Cripple Creek" - Leo Kottke


Andrew McNett

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I can't believe I forgot THIS one...

"Ironman" - Black Sabbath

Nathan Simmons

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Oh, forgot one. Now, some of you may not appreciate the music or the
artist, but I thought the title is worthwhile:

Ozzy Osbourne's (although Black Sabbath may have have the original
rights--my memory is fading) "Ironman"

-N

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Nathan Simmons

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All that I ask is that the flames be withheld. My list (in no particular
order):

Joe Satriani Surfing with the Alien (good choice in previous list)

Van Halen Without You
Humans Being (OK, it's a soundtrack, but motivating)

Green Day Basket Case

Rush Spirit of Radio

AC/DC For Those About to Rock (preferably pre-race)

Wallflowers The Only DIfference

Jerry Lee Lewis Great Balls of Fire

Thin Lizzy The Boys are Back in Town

Queen Fat Bottomed Girls
(Perhaps their "bicycle" song is more appropriate, but
it doesn't do much for me)

Motley Crue Kickstart My Heart (This is motivational, give it a
chance)

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hu...@my-dejanews.com

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I like to hear songs that wake me up since the races always start so damn
early!!! You know, the kind of songs that get me to jump out of bed when my
alarm clock goes off. List in no particular order...

Jane's Addiction - Caught Stealing
Nirvana - anything from Nevermind
Greenday - Welcome to Paradise or anything else from Dookie
Sublime - Santeria
Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Big Audio Dynamite - Globe
S.T.P - Rollercoaster
Any of the new swing stuff (Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Cherry Poppin Daddies, etc)
Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
Beck- New Pollution
Peter Gabriel - Big Time

Others that are good cuz of racing themes:

Cake - Distance
Morrisey - Boy Racer
Tom Petty - Running Down a Dream
Peter Gabriel - I Go Swimming

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Jason Mayfield

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Sanjay <sanja...@MNSi.net> wrote:

: Wagner = Ride of the Valkyries


: Holst = The Planets - Mars the bringer of War
: Tchakovisky = 1812

This guy has taste!

Also, we should include:

U2 - Bullet the Blue Sky
U2 - MOFO
2 Skinnee J's - 718
Blur - Song #1
Barenaked Ladies - One Week
Soul Attorneys - So They Say
Madonna - Vogue
Anything by Mary Prankster

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Ray Plotecia

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Truckin' — Grateful Dead
Shut Down — The Beach Boys
Time Has Come Today — The Chambers Brothers
Repost: Tour de France / Autobahn — Kraftwerk
Light My Fire — the Doors

Ray Plotecia

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Joe Foster

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Sanjay wrote:
Ah! Someone with classic taste. Might I add:

Beethoven: Symphony 3 and Symphony 9
Mozart: Requiem
Wagner: Die Walkure
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exk7

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In article <368BB3...@popd.ix.netcom.com>
Joe Foster <jcfo...@popd.ix.netcom.com> writes:

> Sanjay wrote:
> Ah! Someone with classic taste. Might I add:
>
> Beethoven: Symphony 3 and Symphony 9
> Mozart: Requiem
> Wagner: Die Walkure
> _________________________

________________________

Bach: 6th Cello sonata
Strauss: Ein Heldenleben (Heroes try hahd, very hahd)
Prokofiev: Battle on Ice from Alexander Nevski

Ruth Kazez

Stephen Fleck

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Joe Foster <jcfo...@popd.ix.netcom.com> writes:
> Sanjay wrote:
> Ah! Someone with classic taste. Might I add:
>
> Beethoven: Symphony 3 and Symphony 9
> Mozart: Requiem
> Wagner: Die Walkure
> __________________________________________________________

Joe,

Nice classical picks.

Ten more Classical/Choral possibilities:

Palistrina - Christmas Mass
Thomas Tallis - Spem in Alium(40 part motet)
Bach - Goldberg Variations(Glenn Gould, piano)
Mussorsky - Pictures at an Exhibition
Holst - The Planets
Elgar - Enigma Variations
Bach - Cello Suite #1( Yo Yo Ma, cello)
Brahms - German Requiem
Mozart - Concerto for Clarinet in A
Vaughn Williams - Fantasia on a Theme of Thomas Tallis

Steve Fleck


D.H.

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Tricia Richter wrote:

> Nick, this ain't NEVER gonna work. ...

So you're saying it will work? ;-)


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Also,

Ozzy "Crazy Train"
Eagles "Already Gone" (one of my faves)
Jackson Browne "Running on empty"
Eric Johnson "Cliffs of Dover" (instrumental)
Eric Johnson "Righteous" (ditto)
John Fogerty "Put me in coach"
Creedence Clearwater Revival "Bad moon rising"
Indigo Girls "Galileo"
Indigo Girls "Dead Man's Hill" (more for the name)
Joe Satriani "Summer song" (another up tempo instrumental)
Sheryl Crow "All I want to do (is have some fun)"
Eric Cartman "Come sail away" (sweeeeet)


Nathan Simmons wrote:

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Oops! I forgot:

The End Is Not In Sight (The Cowboy Song) — Amazing Rhythm Aces

Ray


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Current Windtrainer Faves:

Pine Valley Cosmonauts - Salute To The Majesty Of Bob Wills
Blasters - American Music
Old 97's - Too Far To Care

Cool Race Songs:

Hawaii 5-0 Theme - The Ventures
Stand On It
Born To Run - both by Bruce
The Distance - Cake
Let It Roll - Little Feat
The Wheel - Jerry Garcia

Chuck Berghoefer


SBRMJM1

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Human Wheels!!! John Mellencamp

Michael Roberts

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Some songs from the tapes I use for races (and I have to listen to them
a long time) ;)
Eye of the Tiger
The Heat is On *
Footloose
Dancin' in the Street
CITY (Beaver Brown Band?)
Thriller (Michael Jackson)
I Feel Love (Donna Summer) *
Party Train (Gap Band) *
We Got the Beat (GoGos)
Shutdown (Beach Boys)
And I Saw Her Standing There (Beatles)
Back in the U.S.S.R. (more a guys song?)(Beatles)
Rock and Roll Music (Beatles)
Jailhouse Rock (Elvis)
Legs (ZZTop)
The Little Old Lady from Pasadena (Beach Boys) :)
Rockaria (ELO) (OK, so I have a classical background)
Strut (more a guys song?) (Sheena Easton)
Material Girl (Madonna)
Johnny B Goode
Funeral for a Friend, Love Lies Bleeding - more and more energy
(Elton John)

Beethoven 9th Symphony last movement for the finish

* - starred songs are for titles which make people ask
"If he's that fast, why is he so far back?"

Mad Mike

Lynne Fonda-Kosorek

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<loves to watch Ray date himself>

Traveling Wilburys. Bigger and Louder 12 strings !!
"Handle with Care"
"End of the Line"
et al

Andrew McNett

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Heh heh...if we're going to go for hardcore metal, "By Demons Be Driven" by
Pantera ("Vulgar Display of Power") will get your adrenaline pumping.

Iron Pete

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Hmmm...should I put my heavy metal and hardcore favorites in here? Well, if you
don't know the band, you're not alone. :-)

1) Old School Metallica...from "Kill 'em All" to "And Justice For All" Great
cycling music for the indoor trainer. I especially love the old "Garage Day's
Re-revisited" album. The newer Mettalica songs just don't have the pizzazz
anymore.

2) Megadeth...all albums. A must for indoor activity. These guys still got it!

3) White Zombie/Rob Zombie. Boy, these songs pack a punch! The heavy beats on
these songs is enough to motivate even the most boring person.

4) Old School Motley Crue, Twisted Sister, Van Halen w/ David Lee Roth, and
other old 80's metal music. They still have an aura about them.

5) Korn. For days when I'm just plain tired to work out. This acts like a cup
of very strong coffee in the morning. Definitely an eye opener.

6) Last but not least (don't be surprised!), Ramstein. These Germans have a
great beat to motivate me during training.

That names a good number of what I hear daily. I wonder if taking these albums
to New Zealand or Canada next year would turn both countries upside down? :-)

If only the customs people knew who they are admitting into their country! ;-)

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Nick Munting

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Going great! We have now a top 100, but a few more votes and lists of your
top 10 tracks will allow us to seed them!
regards
and Happy New Year from Australia (we're 12 hours into the new year right
now!

Nick Munting - ni...@auto-focus.com
URL: www.auto-focus.com/oztridiary and www.extremetri.com

SteveBlum

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Second Wind -- Jimmy Buffett
Theme from Blazing Saddles

Steve Blum (stev...@aol.com)
Tellus Venture Associates

"Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you;
if you don't bet, you can't win." R.A.H.

Tricia Richter

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In article <76g34a$512$3...@news1.Radix.Net>, Jason Mayfield
<iro...@saltmine.radix.net> wrote:

> Sanjay <sanja...@MNSi.net> wrote:
>
> : Wagner = Ride of the Valkyries
> : Holst = The Planets - Mars the bringer of War
> : Tchakovisky = 1812
>
> This guy has taste!

Yes!


>
> Also, we should include:
>
> Blur - Song #1

I was thinking immediately after I posted my list, "How could I have left
THAT off???"

> Barenaked Ladies - One Week

Yes!

> Soul Attorneys - So They Say

YES!! That song was so amazingly perfect at the end of the IMC clip video.

> Madonna - Vogue

Oh ho, of course! The TriPoser theme song!
:)

Tricia Richter

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And how about Stravinsky's Rite of Spring? Or The Firebird Symphony?

In article <92Pi2.713$gB.14...@newsgate.direct.ca>, trio...@direct.ca
(Stephen Fleck) wrote:

--
Tri-Baby

_
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Iron Pete

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>Heh heh...if we're going to go for hardcore metal, "By Demons Be Driven" by
>Pantera ("Vulgar Display of Power") will get your adrenaline pumping.
>

Great band Andrew. I have 3 of their albums. Two I listen to a lot, "Cowboys
from Hell" and "Vulgar Display of Power". For those who are not privy to this
kind of music, I urge you not to listen to the song "Primal Concrete Sledge",
as this song can make you put your head through the wall. ;-)

Iron (or is it Heavy Metal?) Pete

Jason Mayfield

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Tricia Richter <tri...@forsythe.stanford.edu> noted my perfect taste in
music:

: I was thinking immediately after I posted my list, "How could I have left
: THAT off???"

Perhaps, dear TriBaby, you should get your head checked...by a jumbo jet.
It won't be easy...but nothing is.

: YES!! That song was so amazingly perfect at the end of the IMC clip video.

The lyrics...oh the lyrics. For anyone who hasn't heard it, definitely
check out the Soul Attorneys.

: Oh ho, of course! The TriPoser theme song!

It somewhat scares me that I've been doing my Computrainer workers to
Madonna's Immaculate Collection....

Don't just stand there, lets get to it. Strike a pose, there's nothing to
it...vogue.

LeePublish

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Nothin' like a little organ music to get one stirring, such as Bach's Toccata
and Fugue in D Minor, Dupre's Carollon or Widor's Toccata from Symphonie No. 5!

--Lee (Tri-Hard)

Stephen Adams

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I think the perfect song for the start of an IronMan would be "Welcome
To My Nightmare" by Alice Cooper. Maybe they could blast it on the loud
speaker.

My List:
Riders On The Storm- The Doors
New Pollution- Beck
Halo of Flies- Alice Cooper
Locomotive Breath- Jethro Tull
Majic Carpet Ride- Steppenwolf
Baby It's You- Smith
Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress- Hollies
Radar Love- Golden Earring
Relax- Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Burning Down The House- Talking Heads
Rock Lobster- B52's
Back in the USSR- The Beatles
Watching The Detectives- Elvis Costello
Love Letter- Bonnie Raitt
White Wedding- Billy Idol
Chalk Dust Torture- Phish
Back in Black- AC/DC
Great Balls Of Fire- Jerry Lee Lewis
Helter Skelter- The Beatles
Keep on Rocken in The Free World- Niel Young
Don't Speak- No Doubt
Cowboy Song- Thin Lizzy
What I Like About You- Romantics
Green River- Creedence
Jail Break- Thin Lizzy

Ofcourse IronMan by Black Sabbath, and somewhere near the end of the
running leg "The Ballad OF Dwight Fry" by Alice Cooper

Steve"I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE" Adams


Larry Himmel

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Let's see if I can help:

Scott Tinley is the musical triathlete but from what I hear we don't want to
listen to him at an event. But he is an avowed Parrothead so here's something
for the lava fields:

Volcano - Jimmy Buffett

What was it like there this year? Headwinds and high temperatures. Sounds
like:

Highway to Hell - AC/DC
A testosterone anthem for the guys:

Bad to the Bone - George Thorogood

And for the ladies:

Shirley - L7


For Rudolph Von Berg:

Hello, Dad, I'm in Jail - Was Not Was

For Jurgen Zack:

Runnin' On Empty - Jackson Brown

For Fernanda Keller:

Legs - ZZ Top

For the Met-RX IM/2 Veterans:

Blister in the Sun - Violent Femmes

For North American triathlete Peter Reid and the other studs from the Great
White North:

The Lumberjack Song - Monty Python

For Mark Allen, the spiritual one:

Katmandu - Bob Seger

For Ironkid:

Only a Lad - Oingo Boingo

Stewart Cox

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For the hills and tough indoor bike intervals:

Police -- King of Pain

--
Stewart Cox
mrst...@midsouth.rr.com
stewa...@TNB.com

Mosi

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Larry Himmel wrote:

> (snip)



> For Ironkid:
>
> Only a Lad - Oingo Boingo
>

--------------------------------------------------------------------

OK, but the ROCKY THEME makes me want to go run the stadium steps down
the street at the University of Toledo.

D.J. "Rocky I, II, III, IV on TNT all day today" (IRONKID)

Mosi

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One song my dad plays when he works waterstops is "Ease on down the
road" from "the WIZ"

D.J. "peeing jokes would be too EZ" (IRONKID)

rossi

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Nick Munting wrote:
>
> Sensational guys, keep it going - we could get the right music mix for the
> ultimate triathlon through this thread!

where do you start ?

Anything by John Tesh from his CBS Tour/Ironman days
Alice Coopers "Long way to go " is a must for Ironman races

David Bowies "Tonight" is a favorite on the morning of an Ironman race.
The chorus goes "everything will be alright tonight"

There are hundreds of tunes that I cant quite think of right now , I'll
sit back and read everyones elses ideas.

Ross


BPSullivan

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Todd Rundgren - Just One Victory
Golden Earring - Radar Love (Not my favorite song in the world, but great
running music)
Brian Sullivan
bpsul...@aol.com


Matt ebac

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Hey all,

Amongst all the triathlon tunes, two songs used in training for the 1500 meter
free at the Olympics have emerged. Ironpete picked some old school Metallica as
his favorite. In fact, Carlton Bruner would listen to Motorbreath in his head
while racing the 1500 (in preparation for the 1996 Olympics). One listen gives
a good idea of how intense his swims must be-"ALL OUT OR NOTHING! FULL SPEED OR
NOTHING!" It's actually kind of intimidating.

And Brian Sullivan picked Radar Love by Golden Earring for his running song,
but way back in 1976 Brian Goodell had that playing in his head while he was
training towards his Gold medal swim in the 1500-"no more speed, I'm almost
there. Gotta be cool now, gotta take care. Last car (swimmer) to pass, hear I
go!" When it came to passing swimmers, Brian couldn't be beat. The last 800 of
his 1500 would have been fast enough for a world record! He practically
invented negative splitting.

Myself? Regretablly, whatever is on the radio while I'm driving towards the
race. On the last race of the summer, I lucked out and got "The Beach" by New
Order. It made for a great pace and a great race! But during a five mile swim
some years ago, I got the Coca Cola theme song stuck in my head for the entire
2 hours and 10 minutes. It was worse that any pain I was feeling (and I was
feeling a LOT). I had carefully selected "Box Elder", a Pavement cover by the
Wedding Present, and listened to it almost continuously in the weeks before the
race. But as soon as I started swimming across Lake Minnetonka, the tune from
hell reared it's ugly head-"doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, doo-doo Coca Cola!" I still
wake up screaming reliving the moment.

Swimcerely,

Matt

Eric Weiss

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Living in Philadelphia, I get to run up the real Art Museum Steps. It
never fails to remind me of the movie. On any given day you will see tons
of people doing their best Rocky impression.

Eric W

Henry Bickerstaff

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I enjoy biking on the computrainer with IronMan Triathlon and Tour de France by
John Tesh as well as some of his other Olympic theme music.

Henry

Larry Himmel

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Actually, DJ, after I posted it dawned on me that the title was cute but
that the lyrics were inappropriate for someone as gentile and articulate
as you. Thanks for seeing that and not taking offense. From your dialog
in this ng I'd say the Rocky theme is a better fit.

Larry

Mosi wrote:

> Larry Himmel wrote:
>
> > (snip)
>
> > For Ironkid:
> >
> > Only a Lad - Oingo Boingo
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Chris Davis

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Nick,

Here's a list I made up a few years ago...It's been a permanent fixture on my
site for inspirational songs. The address is

http://www.hulaman.com/runtunes.html

enjoy

Against the Wind - Bob Seeger
Ain't No Stoppin' us Now - McFadden and Whitehead
Always on the Run - Lenny Kravitz
Anywhere You Run To - Diana Ross
Aquamarine Marathon - Santana, Carlos
At The Races - Nightnoise
Bad Boys Runnin Wild - Scorpions
Bally Run - Four Play
Band on the Run - Paul McCartney
Big Foot - Charlie Parker
Big Legged Woman - Jerry Lee Lewis
Birthday - Beatles
Bladerunner Love Theme - Vangelis
Blue Racer - Chappell, Jim
Born to Run - Bruce Springsteen
Break my Stride - Matthew Wilder
Can't Find My Way Home - Blind Faith
Can't Run from Yourself - Tanya Tucker
Carribean Queen (No more love on the run) - Billy Ocean
Chariots of Fire Theme - Vangeles
Child of the Wind - Bruce Cockburn
Come In from the Cold - Joni Mitchell (for winter running)
Come Running - Van Morrison
Cool Running - Wall, Jeremy - Boz Scaggs
Crawling Back To You - Tom Petty
Crossroads - Robert Johnson, Eric Clapton, Allman Brothers, Ry
Cooder
Do Run Run - The Runaways
Don't Look Back - Boston, their 2nd album
Downhill Racer - O'Hearn, Patrick
Downhill Run - Cooley, Ron
Earth Run - Ritenour, Lee
Every Little Step - Bobby Brown
Every Step of the Way - Santana - Monkees
Everybody Hurts Sometime - R.E.M. (for the injured among us)
Everybody's on the Run - Jimmy Buffet
Fanfare for the Common Man - (Copland) - Emerson Lake & Palmer
Fat Man in the Bathtub - Little Feat
Flight of the Snowbirds - David Foster
Flying Shoes - Towne Van Zandt (?)
Front Runner - Kilouea
Giant Steps - John Coltrane
Gimme Three Steps - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Goin' Down the Road Feelin Bad - Grateful Dead
Going the Distance - Cake
Gonna Fly Now - Theme from "Rocky"
Happiness Runs - Donovan
He's a Runner - Blood, Sweat and Tears
Hero - Mariah Carey ("Music Box" CD)
Highway to Hell - ACDC
Hit the Road - John Lee Hooker
Hot Legs - Rod Stewart
I Feel Good - James Brown
I Keep Running - Commodores
I Ran - Flock of Seagulls
I Will Run to You - Stevie Nicks
I'd Better Get Steppin Out -Ike and Tina Turner
I'll Come Running Back to You - Sam Cooke
I'll Never Run Away from Love Again - Manhatten Transfer
I'm a Roadrunner - Jr. Walker
I'm Alive - Jackson Browne
I'm Getting Closer to my Home - Grand Funk Railroad
Ironman - Black Sabbath - Pete Townsend
Ironman Triathlon - John Tesh
It Keeps You Running - Doobie Brothers
It's a Hard Road to Travel - Jimmy Cliff
Just My Imagination(running away with you) - Temptations
Keep on Running - Journey - Spencer Davis Group
Keeper Of The Flame - Lanz, David
Layla - Eric Clapton
Legs - ZZ Top
Let Him Run Wild - Beach Boys
Life in the Fast Lane - The Eagles
Lone Runner - Balasaurus, Matt
Loneliness of the long distance runner - Iron Maiden
Long Distance Runaround - Yes
Long Distance Winner - Stevie Nicks and Linsey Buckingham
Long May You Run - Neil Young ("Unplugged" CD) Emmy Lou Harris
Long May You Run - Steven Stills and Neil Young
Long Run - Eagles
Long Slow Distance - Michael Franks
Long Time Running - The Tragically Hip
Long Train Running - Doobie Bros
Lonliness of the Long Distance Runner - Iron Maiden
Lost in the Sun - Dan Fogelberg ( the faster we run, the further
away the dreams we chase become )
Make it Happen - Mariah Carey
Marathon Man - David Arkenstone
Marathon - Rush - Santana
Moon Run - Trapezoid
No One to Run With - Allman Brothers
Nowhere to Run - Martha Reeves and the Vandelas, Ronnie Lane -
Pete Townsend
Old and in the Way - Jerry Garcia
On The Road Again - Grateful DEAD, Willie Nelson
On the Run - ELO - Pink Floyd
One Moment in Time - Whitney Houston
One More Mile - James Cotton
One Step Closer - Doobie Bros
Otis Runs - Howard - James Newton
Pressure - Billy Joel
Psycho Killer - Talking Heads
Race is On - George Jones
Race With the Devil - Gene Vincent
Race with the Devil on a Spanish Highway - Al DiMeola
Racing in the Streets - Bruce Springsteen
Ramble On - Led Zepplin
Ramblin - Ornette Coleman
Relay - The Who
River of Dreams - Billy Joel
Road Runner - Bo Diddley - Ventures - Fleetwood Mac
Rock & Roll Stew - Traffic
Rugged Road - Robben Ford
Run Around - Chuck Berry - Jefferson Airplane
Run Away - Bodeans
Run Away With Me - Rush Hour
Run Baby Run - Roy Orbison
Run for Cover - Basia
Run for Home - Landisfarne
Run for the Roses - Dan Fogelberg - Jerry Garcia
Run for Your Life - The Beatles - Four Seasons - Nancy Sinatra
Run Joe - Louis Jordan
Run Like Hell - Pink Floyd
Run Like an Antelope - Phish
Run on - Elvis Presley
Run Right Back - Eddie Money
Run River Run - Lanz, David
Run, Rudolph, Run - Chuck Berry
Run, Run, Run - The Who - Velvet Underground - Third Rail - Jo Jo
Gunn
Run, Run, Run - Third Rail
Run Runaway - Slade
Run Through the Jungle - Credence Clearwater Revival
Run to Him - Bobby Vee
Run to Me - The Bee Gees
Run to the Hills - Iron Maiden
Run to the Sun - Erasure
Run to You - Bryan Adams
Runaround - Blues Traveler, Van Halen
Runaround Sue - Dion
Runaround - Van Halen
Runaway Child, Running Wild - Temptations
Runaway - Del Shannon - Bonnie Raitt - Janet Jackson - Bon Jovi
Runaway Train - Elton John - Rod Stewart - Soul Asylum
Runner - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Runnin Around - Sly & Family Stone - Eddie Money
Runnin Back Home - Bonnie Raitt
Runnin Down a Dream - Tom Petty
Runnin on Faith - Eric Clapton
Runnin' - Pablo Cruise - Earth, Wind and Fire
Runnin' Shoes - The Fabulous Thunderbirds
Runnin' Wild - Marilyn Monroe
Runnin' With a Bad Crowd - Savoy Brown
Runnin With the Wind - Eddie Rabbit
Running Away - Bob Marley
Running Back - Freddy Fender
Running Back to You - Vanessa Williams
Running Bear - George Jones
Running Down the Highway - Doobie Brothers
Running Down the Road - Arlo Guthrie
Running Dry - Neil Young
Running for Cover - Donna Summers
Running for My Life - Judy Collins
Running Free - Buzzcocks - Iron Maiden
Running Free - Iron Maiden
Running From an Angel - Hootie and the Blowfish
Running Man - Al Stewart
Running on a Treadmill - Oingo Boingo
Running on Empty - Jackson Browne
Running on Faith - Eric Clapton
Running on Ice - Billy Joel
Running Out On Me - Robben Ford
Running Scared - Roy Orbison
Running Shoes - Juke Boy Bonner
Running - Temptations
Running the Endless Mile - John Parr
Running through the Rain - Chris LeDoux
Running to Stand Still - U-2
Running Up That Hill - Kate Bush
Running with the Crowd - Charlie Daniels Band
Running with the Devil - Van Halen
Running with the Night - Lionel Ritchie
Running With the Pack - Bad Company
Sailing Shoes - Little Feat
Samba Dreams - Geissman, Grant
Savanah Runner - Arkenstone & Kostia
Second Movement of Beethoven's 9th Symphony
She's a little Runaway - Bon Jovi
She's Going Bald - Beach Boys
Slip Sliding Away - Paul Simons (for winter running on ice)
Slow Down - Beatles
Sorry (I Ran All the Way Home) - The Impalas
Soundtrack from the Last of the Mohicans
Step By Step - Eddie Money - Forbidden
Step on Out - Oakridge Boys
Steppin Out - Gap Band - Eric Clapton - Joe Jackson
Steppin Out with My Baby - Fred Astaire - Tony Bennett
Stones in the Road - Mary Chapin Carpenter
Take a Giant Step - Taj Mahal
Take it on the Run - REO Speedwagon
Take the Money and Run - The Steve Miller Band
The I Don't Know Where I'm Goin', But I'm Goin' Nowhere in a Hurry
Blues -
The Long Race - Bruce Hornsby
The Long Run - Eagles
The Other Kind - Steve Earle ("Shut Up and Die Like an Aviator
album)
The Race is On - Grateful Dead
The Tortoise and the Hare - Moody Blues
The Weight - The Band - Aretha Franklin
Theme from Flashdance: What a Feeling - Irene Cara
Theme from 'The Trap - BBC London Marathon Theme
Time - Pink Floyd
Top of The Hill - Robben Ford
Turd on the Run - Rolling Stones
Tush - ZZ Top
Walk Don't Run - Ventures
Walking on Sunshine - Katrina and the Waves
Wall of Death - Richard Thompson - REM
Watch your Step - Elvis Costello
We Will Rise Again (Religious) David Haas
Who Can I Run To? - Xscape
Who Will you Run To? - Heart
Wide River (She runs like a river) - Steve Miller
Wild Things Run Fast - Joni Mitchell
World in Motion - New Order
You Better Run - Pat Benatar
You Can Make It If You Try - Sly and the Family Stone
You Can Run - Flock of Seagulls
You Run Your Mouth (I'll Run my Business) - Joe Jackson
You'll Accompany Me - Bob Seger

Re-compiled Oct 1996 by ch...@hulaman.com. Thanks to Chuck Doherty and other
DRS
members, Lee Entrekin, Bob Huffman, and Brian of Marathon Dynamics.

Nick Munting wrote:

> Going great! We have now a top 100, but a few more votes and lists of your
> top 10 tracks will allow us to seed them!
> regards
> and Happy New Year from Australia (we're 12 hours into the new year right
> now!
>
> Nick Munting - ni...@auto-focus.com
> URL: www.auto-focus.com/oztridiary and www.extremetri.com

--
Chris Davis

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage" --Anais Nin

http://www.hulaman.com

Darrin

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Henry Bickerstaff wrote:

> I enjoy biking on the computrainer with IronMan Triathlon and Tour de France by
> John Tesh as well as some of his other Olympic theme music.
>
> Henry

Where do you find Tesh's music? I've yet to see his Ironman stuff around here.

--
Tri Your Hardest!

/\O ___o o
~~~~ _ \<,_ <|\
(*)/ (*) />

Darrin Bartlett

IMC '98 11:59.59


Andrew Peabody/Karen Fisher

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In article <3690F9D9...@mailhost.ptpd.ford.com>, Darrin
<dbar...@mailhost.ptpd.ford.com> wrote:

>Henry Bickerstaff wrote:
>
>> I enjoy biking on the computrainer with IronMan Triathlon and Tour de
France by
>> John Tesh as well as some of his other Olympic theme music.
>>
>> Henry
>
>Where do you find Tesh's music? I've yet to see his Ironman stuff around here.

Usually in New Age or Instrumental section. It's OK for LSD workouts, but
for real hammer sessions or actual race music, I have to go with Iron
Pete's selections...more in the hard driving, out of your skull punk/metal
or industrial music genre. I like Nine Inch Nails first album for driving
to the race and getting the adrenaline up. It kind of sets the tone for
the swim start. Also anything from the early Iggy Pop albums, especially
Raw Power. Also Soundgarden, Rage Against the Machine, Danzig...anything
with guitars, drums, ragged vocal chords, and angst.

Cheers,
Andrew (refusing to mellow with age)

Rob Knell

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I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned:

Run like hell (Pink Floyd)
Ironman (Black Sabbath)
The Leader of the pack (Shangri-las)

All off which obviously have direct relevance to the subect of the
newsgroup. I remember an aid table playing 'Leader of the Pack' as I
steamed along during a marathon in Jo'burg a couple of years ago, and
it made me feel really good. Course Ihad a nasty crash and burn about
ten minutes later. I wasn't really leading the pack either.

Cheers

Rob Knell

Stephen Collins

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Nick Munting wrote in message
<76f168$k1m$1...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>...

>Sensational guys, keep it going - we could get the right music mix for the
>ultimate triathlon through this thread!


Nick (and everyone)

The ULTIMATE (my opinion) training and racing soundtrack is Choirboys' "Big
Bad Noise" album. Plenty of rough Newcastle guitar and drums to spin, grind
and run to. Opens with (I think) "Run to Paradise" and leads into
"Struggletown", and follows with more of the same.
I get really inspired every time I run or do a trainer session with it on -
I even have this mostly developed (and incredibly corny) boy overcomes odds
to win big triathlon movie storyboard in my head that uses the album as a
soundtrack. It just runs itself in my mind every time I put the tape in the
stereo.

Steve "Yay, I'm going back to Canberra!" Collins
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Rick Denney

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On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:58:22 +1100, "Nick Munting"
<n...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>OK, enough of the flames from irate trainees, enough of the right wheels,
>right attitude etc.... I am probing for some deep and meaningful
>information after reading Mark Lemmon's recent post about music.
>
>I'd like to compile a top 100 for triathlon - actually two top 100 music
>hit's charts ... The music you train to and the music you the triathlete
>want
>to hear at a race!
>

I somehow don't think my personal favorite of Ralph Vaughan Williams
4th Symphony (in F minor, in case you were wondering) will make it to
Mr. Munting's list.

Rick "No matter how many times I post this" Denney


Ray Plotecia

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I used to like Tesh. That is until I drove with Rob Vigorito up to the
Tupper Lake TinMan race (a 9 hour drive). Vig played Tesh for 9 hours
straight. I currently hate John Tesh's music.

Ray Plotecia

Male Amateur, 50-54
Eurhythmic, MD


Henry Bickerstaff wrote in message <368F8643...@pldi.net>...


>I enjoy biking on the computrainer with IronMan Triathlon and Tour de
France by
>John Tesh as well as some of his other Olympic theme music.
>
>Henry
>

>Nick Munting wrote:
>
>> OK, enough of the flames from irate trainees, enough of the right wheels,
>> right attitude etc.... I am probing for some deep and meaningful
>> information after reading Mark Lemmon's recent post about music.
>>
>> I'd like to compile a top 100 for triathlon - actually two top 100 music
>> hit's charts ... The music you train to and the music you the triathlete
>> want
>> to hear at a race!
>>

Walter R. Strapps

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Yikes, John Tesh :)

I go for stuff a bit heavier....

"Mr. Brownstone" Guns and Roses
"Last Caress/Green Hell" - Metallica (warning more than a little
offensive)
"Dead Horse" - Guns and Roses (psyched me to a few AG victories)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" - Nirvana
All of the Fully Completely Album by the Tragically Hip


Walter R. Strapps

Stephen Adams

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Lunatic Fringe- Red Ryder


Mike Bundy

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How about a NO list...

Nooooo to:

-- ANYTHING by celine dion
-- That insipid "Ironman" song
-- "eye of the tiger" -- if I hear it one more time I'll...
-- That stupid macaroni (or whatever the hell it is) song

-- MB.

Nick Munting wrote in message

<76dtv5$bth$1...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>...

Dave Rad

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Tesh? ughhhhhhhhh

My favorites are too many to write here, but for starters my trainer workout
last Sunday featured three disc's by The Afghan Whigs.

My alltime favorite disc for riding, running, etc. was from the early
nineties by an obscure band from the UK called Swervedriver. Their disc
"Raise" was unbelievable.

Rich Davis

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Andrew McNett <spa...@whidbey.com> wrote:
: Heh heh...if we're going to go for hardcore metal, "By Demons Be Driven" by

: Pantera ("Vulgar Display of Power") will get your adrenaline pumping.

>>-> Pantera anecdote:
I saw the band Pantera at Narita Int'l airport in Japan about 2
yrs ago. Talk about sticking out in a crowd. AndyYou would not
believe the scrutiny these guy's were placed under. They handeled
it very well demonstrating patience and courteousy at or above that
of the host country. To be more courteous than the Japanese is no easy
feat.
________________________________________________________________________
Rich Davis E-mail: ri...@fc.hp.com
Home Page: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~twm/TTH.html
________________________________________________________________________


Ray Plotecia

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OK, I like the NO list idea...


No to anything that sounds like Rap music.... except Bob Dylan's
"Subterranean Homesick Blues"

Ray Plotecia

Male Amateur, 50-54
Ruxton, MD

Mike Bundy wrote in message
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TriAndy

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Oh boy John. Now you have really pissed ME off. You are right in
describing Ray as a white male living in the suburbs, but you have
absolutely no idea how open Ray is to ALL kinds of music. I have known
Ray a long time and he has very sophisticated tastes in music. We often
talk about all forms of music during our training rides. Rap included.
You know what, we just do not like it. No big deal. Doesn't mean you
or anyone else shouldn't listen to it or like it or buy it. It just
isn't our cup of tea.

Let me take a stab at identifying you as long as you opened this door.
You must be a limousine liberal. Only someone like that would couch a
response such as yours negatively merely because someone stated they do
not like a kind of music. Music, one of the most subjective topics
known to the universe.

My mother taught me an old and valuable lesson of not speaking unless
you have something nice to say. You might try it sometime.

Andy Weissel
________________________________________________
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>
> In <7707a0$60n$1...@callisto.clark.net> "Ray Plotecia"


> <imag...@clark.net> writes:
> >
> >OK, I like the NO list idea...
> >
> >
> >No to anything that sounds like Rap music.... except Bob Dylan's
> >"Subterranean Homesick Blues"
> >
> >Ray Plotecia
> >
> >Male Amateur, 50-54
> >Ruxton, MD
>

> Let me guess, you're white, middle aged and live somewhere in suburban?
> How nice.
>
> JT

John Forrest Tomlinson

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John Forrest Tomlinson

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In <369424...@erols.com> TriAndy <smb...@erols.com> writes:
>
>Oh boy John. Now you have really pissed ME off. You are right in
>describing Ray as a white male living in the suburbs, but you have
>absolutely no idea how open Ray is to ALL kinds of music. I have
known
>Ray a long time and he has very sophisticated tastes in music. We
often
>talk about all forms of music during our training rides. Rap
included.
>You know what, we just do not like it. No big deal. Doesn't mean you
>or anyone else shouldn't listen to it or like it or buy it. It just
>isn't our cup of tea.
>
>Let me take a stab at identifying you as long as you opened this door.

>You must be a limousine liberal. Only someone like that would couch a
>response such as yours negatively merely because someone stated they
do
>not like a kind of music. Music, one of the most subjective topics
>known to the universe.
>
>My mother taught me an old and valuable lesson of not speaking unless
>you have something nice to say. You might try it sometime.
>
>Andy Weissel

So white, suburban and middle-aged is an insult? But at least I pissed
you off, so thanks for the info.

And yeah, I'm a limousine liberal (whatever that means). I'm am
asshole too.

JT

>________________________________________________

Ray Plotecia

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Let me make your categorization a little more difficult. I don't
particularly like Country Music either ( the truck drivin', cheatin'
honky-tonk variety). But I love Bluegrass. I don't live in a Suburban, I
have an Isuzu Trooper.

What's more, I am a black, Jewish, lesbian. Ruth, where are you? I need
support on this one.

Ray Plotecia

Male Amateur, 50-54
Burb, MD


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote in message
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exk7

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In article <772n8p$s7n$1...@callisto.clark.net>
"Ray Plotecia" <imag...@clark.net> writes:

> What's more, I am a black, Jewish, lesbian. Ruth, where are you? I need
> support on this one.
>
> Ray Plotecia
>
> Male Amateur, 50-54
> Burb, MD

Hey Burb! Here I am. It never fails to surprise me, what music will
"sing" to me. All of us just have to be responding to a chord that
resonates with our own experiences somehow. Being a college-town,
white (on the outside) and misc.other person, it's not surprising that
I love opera and baroque and very early music. Being old, it's no
wonder I move to Billie, Bessie, and Bunny as well as the classical 3
B's. But reggae?-Yes; Rap?-No; R and B?-Yes; Country?-No. And why in
the world did I make up a tape for the car that includes The Doors,
Cream, Righteous Brothers, Bob Seger, Nina Simone, Bonnie Tyler,
BeeGees, Bob Dylan? Why do I turn off all the heart-wringers like
Morisette and Dion as well as any Industrial Rock? There is nothing
about my location, vocation, or avocation that can explain my tastes.
As for B.., J.., and L.., wasn't Sammy Davis, jr. all of the above?

Ruth Kazez

James Y Yang

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Top 10
Born to Run Springsteen
Eye of the Tiger Survivor
Start Me Up Stones
Running on Empty Jackson Browne
Born to be Wild Steppenwolf
Gonna Fly Now Bill Conti
Running Like a Dream Petty
Run Like Hell Pink Floyd
Should I stay or should I go Clash

Awesome!
-J
--
o James Y. Yang
' - __o </\_ Tri-PT
` ' - \< _/\ http://medicine.wustl.edu/~yangj
/\o_ - () () /

Stephen Adams

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I am also white, I'm approaching middle age, I guess you could call the
area I live in "Suburban". and guess what ..... I THINK IT IS PRETTY
FREAKING NICE.

Steve "over the hill" Adams

p.s. I don't listen to rap music

p.p.s Try some Niel Young, or Alice Cooper, or Buddy Holly, or Bonnie
Rait, or The Eagles, or the Beatles, or the Pretenders, or the Doors, or
the Mamas and the Papas, or the Who, or the Wallflowers, or Elvis
Costello, or David Bowie, or Barry the Bone, or U2, or Golden Earring.
or CCR, or No Doubt, or Pink Steel and the Brass Ball Bearing Band.

p.p.p.s. oh ya, have a nice day :-):-):-):-)


John Forrest Tomlinson

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In <12657-36...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Ada...@webtv.net

(Stephen Adams) writes:
>
>I am also white, I'm approaching middle age, I guess you could call
the
>area I live in "Suburban".

And you use webtv.

JT

Sal Santolucito

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Uhh... I thought that he was just joking...

-- Sal

Mattlap2 wrote in message <19990109210658...@ng148.aol.com>...
>>Subject: Re: Triathlon and Music!
>>From: jt...@ix.netcom.com(John Forrest Tomlinson)
>>Date: 1/9/99 12:10 PM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: <77862c$r...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>

>The personal attacks here are getting worse and worse ...... ! JT .......I
>have read some of your posts on RST and on rec.bicycle.racing. Some are
>fantastic, well thought out and informative. Well others are just nasty
>comments to get your shots in on someone that doesn't agree with you. My
good
>old Momma always said ...."if you can't say something nice ...ummmmm ..damn
>.....well I think you know it". There are topics to disagree about and
others
>to just let go. Nothing can be gained by attacking ones ISP choice or
music
>choices.
>
>Matt "ok ..done with that" LaPointe
>

bolt

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I listen to one of my Rage Against the Machine CD's before every race. I
like softer music as well but race time requires something MOVING!


see ya..............bolt
remove 'nospam' from my address to reply
gandg...@sunherald.infi.net

Rob Knell wrote in message <3690cbd1...@nntp.wits.ac.za>...

Mattlap2

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John Forrest Tomlinson

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In <19990109210658...@ng148.aol.com> matt...@aol.com
It's true, generalizing about a person based on their choice of ISP may
be stepping over the line, but I've been greatly disturbed by a person
in this thread saying I like "all forms of music except rap" (a
profoundly significant form of music closly associated with the black
experience in the US) "except (some song by some white guy)." _That_
-- singling out one type of music closely associated with black people
except for a song performed by a white guy -- is more deeply insulting
than any comment I have made in this thread.

I wouldn't dare suggest someone should like this or that music, or even
put down someone's taste in music but the statement about liking any
type of music except rap except for some song by (Dylan) is disturbing.

JT

Mattlap2

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> but I've been greatly disturbed by a person
>in this thread saying I like "all forms of music except rap" (a
>profoundly significant form of music closly associated with the black
>experience in the US) "except (some song by some white guy)." _That_
>-- singling out one type of music closely associated with black people
>except for a song performed by a white guy -- is more deeply insulting
>than any comment I have made in this thread.

John .....he doesn't like rap ..plain and simple. He didn't single out blues
except for Stevie Ray Vaughan along with it. Ok ...Rap is primarily black but
he didn't single out the Beastie Boys, Sublime, limp bizkit, Blondie (for
rapture), or even (god forbid) Vanilla Ice. Maybe he is just a hell of a bob
dylan fan. Think of it that way before you jump to a conclusion.
Matt "who is tired of the flu and wants to train" LaPointe


Rich Davis

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Tom G. <t...@taunet.net.au> wrote:
: I can do better than that!

>>-> Since I don't know what "that" was, I can't comment. As far as
1500m swim songs are concerned, I alwas got the Who's "Underture"
in my head before swimming that race. It seemed the perfect song
for the distance. Starts off slow and deliberate, finishes with
power and furry. A good strategy for a race that requires one
to manage effort and intensity.

Ray Plotecia

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The point he was trying to make, which seems to have been missed by New York
roadies, is that Bob Dylan invented Rap music.

He likes Jazz, Blues, Reggae, Mississippi John Hurt, Ledbelly, and has named
one of his cats after Bob Marley. He participated in civil rights marches
in the 60's.

He also gets quite furious when people find racial overtones in comments
that do not contain them. This is a really insidious form of racism.

This is hardly the forum for this kind of thing. We were having a happy
discussion of music. That's all it was.

Ray Plotecia (a white name)

Male Amateur, 50-54 (sounds middle aged to me)
Ruxton, MD ( a famous suburb)


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote in message

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>be stepping over the line, but I've been greatly disturbed by a person


>in this thread saying I like "all forms of music except rap" (a
>profoundly significant form of music closly associated with the black
>experience in the US) "except (some song by some white guy)." _That_
>-- singling out one type of music closely associated with black people
>except for a song performed by a white guy -- is more deeply insulting
>than any comment I have made in this thread.
>

exk7

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> >profoundly significant form of music closly associated with the black
> >experience in the US)

I've lost track of who said what, but somewhere in the middle of the
mud-slinging was the above statement referring to rap as the music
whose identification with Afro-Americans is so tight, it would be
suspiciously close to racism not to like it. I have a quite different
sense of which musicians are associated with Blacks: Marian Anderson
and Leontyne Price and, of course, Paul Robeson come immediately to
mind, although their music has more to do with the human experience
that transcends color. But then, I don't believe all Afro-Americans
are part of the low life that rap expresses so forcefully.

I understand the annoyance of calling what Dylan does rap; it was even
dumber to have Elvis Presley's whitened version of rock and roll come
to receive the acceptance that was not forthcoming to all that great
stuff I used to listen to on WJJD, Chicago, long before Elvis crossed
the "t" on his ghetttto.

All of which has zip to do with flat backs and ocean swimming.


Ruth Kazez

Mosi

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>
> This is hardly the forum for this kind of thing.
> Ray Plotecia
>
> Male Amateur, 50-54 (sounds middle aged to me)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

AAHHHHHHHH HHMMMMMMMM well it sounds ahhhhh, actually it sounds hmmmmmm
ahhhh but then really when I think about it hhhmmmmm. Let me see how
should I say this? It aaaaaaaaa sounds aaahhhhh YOUNG, yea that's it,
YOUNG!!!!!

D.J. " I'm working on it with my YOUNG dad;-)" (IRONKID)

John Forrest Tomlinson

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In <77dcpk$1p...@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> ex...@email.psu.edu (exk7) writes:
>
>
>> >profoundly significant form of music closly associated with the
black
>> >experience in the US)
To clarify, I said that, and I said singling rap our except when
performed by a particular white guy smacks of racism. There's nothing
wrong with not liking rap -- it's a powerful and often disturbing type
of music. But to like it only a Bob Dylan rap song, that's what I
object to.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

JT

Stephen Adams

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My favorite rap song is "Hot Rod Lincoln", although I can't remember the
name of the guy who sang/talked/rapped it.

But over all Lou Reed is my favorite Rapper.

Steve "Take A Walk On The Wild Side" Adams


Ray Plotecia

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Thanks Ironkid....


Mosi wrote in message <369A79...@prodigy.net>...

Ray Plotecia

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JT...

Now read this carefully because this is where I am going to leave this
pissing contest officially:

We talk about many things on this news group. We don't always agree and we
don't always have the same tastes, likes, and dislikes. That's fine. A
good dialogue can do nothing but bring enlightenment.

HOWEVER

I personally resent your continued comments that seek to label me or my
musical taste as racist here in this public forum. Racism does not exist in
this thread. It never existed in this thread. And it probably will not
exist ever on this newsgroup. I'll tolerate your insinuations no further.
Is that clear, John Forrest Tomlinson?

Raymond K. Plotecia

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote in message <77e9uv$3c0@dfw-

snip

>To clarify, I said that, and I said singling rap our except when
>performed by a particular white guy smacks of racism. There's nothing
>wrong with not liking rap -- it's a powerful and often disturbing type
>of music. But to like it only a Bob Dylan rap song, that's what I
>object to.


snip

hu...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <77d3o9$277$1...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>,
Rich Davis <ri...@richo.fc.hp.com> wrote:

> >>-> Since I don't know what "that" was, I can't comment. As far as
> 1500m swim songs are concerned, I alwas got the Who's "Underture"

> in my head before swimming that race...

While racing a 1500 I don't usually have a song in my head but my favorite
long course distance training song has always been "I'm Free" by The Who.
After being confined most of the year indoors in a 25yd pool, once the
summertime arrived and we trained in an outdoor 50 meter pool, well, this
song seemed appropriate & always got me going good on long swims.

-hug

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Larry Himmel

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Middle aged, eh. Well, you're a young fella - about my age. On the other
hand, how many 100 year olds do you know. I don't think of it as 50 - I
think of it as half a century. Which isn't old if you're a tree.


Larry

Ray Plotecia

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I have always defined middle-aged to mean 10 years older than whatever I
happen to be at the time.

Ray Plotecia

Male Amateur, 50-54
Ruxton, MD

Larry Himmel wrote in message <369B7FEF...@csulb.edu>...

John Forrest Tomlinson

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In <77flid$no7$1...@clarknet.clark.net> "Ray Plotecia"

<imag...@clark.net> writes:
>
>JT...
>
>Now read this carefully because this is where I am going to leave this
>pissing contest officially:
>
>We talk about many things on this news group. We don't always agree
and we
>don't always have the same tastes, likes, and dislikes. That's fine.
A
>good dialogue can do nothing but bring enlightenment.
>
>HOWEVER
>
>I personally resent your continued comments that seek to label me or
my
>musical taste as racist here in this public forum. Racism does not
exist in
>this thread. It never existed in this thread. And it probably will
not
>exist ever on this newsgroup. I'll tolerate your insinuations no
further.
>Is that clear, John Forrest Tomlinson?
>
I'm sorry but I'll continue to speak my mind. In the interest of
brevity, I will not repeat my earlier assertions but if anyone is
interested, see www.dejanews.com. I stand by my statements.

Regarding your not tolerating my "insinuations" any further, it is not
clear at all. What do you mean? Do you mean you will not read
anything that I write. Fine. Or do you mean you are going to, what,
threaten me? Steal my computer? Cut my phone line? What? Please let
me know. Oh yeah, you're not going to read any more in this thread.
Great.

JT

Mike Tennent

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Larry Himmel <lhi...@csulb.edu> wrote:

>Middle aged, eh. Well, you're a young fella - about my age. On the other
>hand, how many 100 year olds do you know. I don't think of it as 50 - I
>think of it as half a century. Which isn't old if you're a tree.
>
>

And in the National Park Service (my profession) you're officially historic at
50. Which means folks can't tear you down, paint you strange colors, or modify
your exterior without a LOT of paper work.

Mike "Any benefit is nice" Tennent
"IronPenguin"
'98 Ironman Canada, 16:17:03

Rick Denney

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>I'm sorry but I'll continue to speak my mind. In the interest of
>brevity, I will not repeat my earlier assertions but if anyone is
>interested, see www.dejanews.com. I stand by my statements.

Doing so reveals John uncharacteristically sanctimonious.

>
>Regarding your not tolerating my "insinuations" any further, it is not
>clear at all. What do you mean? Do you mean you will not read
>anything that I write. Fine. Or do you mean you are going to, what,
>threaten me? Steal my computer? Cut my phone line? What? Please let
>me know. Oh yeah, you're not going to read any more in this thread.
>Great.

This doesn't help.

But what would you accuse me of if I told you that I love all forms of
music except Country/Western, which I despise except when it is
performed by Charlie Price (one of very few black country performers)?

Rap is sufficiently different from the rest of the musical world such
that one's like or dislike of it can quite credibly have nothing to do
with the race of the performer. But perhaps Bob Dylan found a way of
expressing it that appealed, on the merits, to someone?

I could also say that I despise folk music sung off-key and out of
rhythm, except when done so by Bob Dylan. He makes off-key and
out-of-rhythm sound okay.

Rick "John, take that Manhattan-sized chip off your shoulder" Denney


Larry Himmel

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I don't think John is posting lurking today, Rick. I heard he was up late
picketting Fox over the PJs> :-)

Rick Denney wrote:
snip

John Forrest Tomlinson

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In
<F441B8557202C11E.8447AE06...@library-proxy.airne

s.net> r...@odetics.com (Rick Denney) writes:

>But what would you accuse me of if I told you that I love all forms of
>music except Country/Western, which I despise except when it is
>performed by Charlie Price (one of very few black country performers)?
>

I'd be concerned you're racist. I'd speculate that you are black.

JT

Rick Denney

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On 14 Jan 1999 00:02:10 GMT, jt...@ix.netcom.com(John Forrest
Tomlinson) wrote:

And you'd be wrong on both counts. Your wrongness would do a
disservice to both me and to Charlie Price. I like his voice, no more,
no less, and he wants people to like his voice, no more, no less.

What was that joke that Robert Klein used to have in his routine about
20 years ago? He was talking about the music selected for beer
commercials, and he was offended (in jest) by the fact that he
identified with and preferred the R&B music in the commercials
obviously intended for black audiences over the country music in the
commercials obviously intended for white audiences. What we do or
don't like about music has little to do with the color of the
performer. Although some forms of rap offend me beyond my dislike of
the music, because of the message of hatred and violence that they
convey.

Rick "Judgemental assumptions will bite you every time--see my scars?"
Denney


Stacy Hills

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I'd say that JFT bit hard on that troll of yours, Rick. Especially since
the man's name is Charlie Pride. I saw him at the South Dakota state fair
when I was a kid.

Stacy "I don't miss C&W music" Hills


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Rick Denney

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On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:39:56 GMT, "Stacy Hills" <shi...@vctinc.com>
wrote:

>I'd say that JFT bit hard on that troll of yours, Rick. Especially since
>the man's name is Charlie Pride. I saw him at the South Dakota state fair
>when I was a kid.
>
>Stacy "I don't miss C&W music" Hills
>

Would you believe that it was a typo? Or that I happen to know that
Charlie Pride is the stage name for [pause to reach into thin air]
Charles L. Price?

Rick "I didn't think so" Denney


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