Armstrong Wins His 7th Tour de France Stage
Ray Plotecia
Lance Armstrong has finished with a time of 1h05'01" - and average speed of
53.986kph, the 2nd fastest time trial in Tour de France history!
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http://www.greatoutdoors.com/velonews/race/road/00tdf/stages/19/minute.html
Ray
rtk
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaad Ray
Really BAAAAAAAAAD
I go through all kinds of avoidance maneuvers so I won't know the end
before I watch at 7:30 p.m. and there you go spoiling everything. That
is so inconsiderate. That is so wrong. So evil. I can't even believe
you could do that.
Ruth K
Ray Plotecia
I just got carried away. I won't do it again.
Ray
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Tom Henderson
Tom Henderson
post...
LANCE DA MAN!!!!
Tom "Somewhat slower doesn't even begin to describe me" Henderson
Ray Plotecia wrote:
> Alright, alright!
>
> How many me too's will I see?
>
> What is your current form of execution?
>
> Ray
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Ray Plotecia
Brian P Casey
>
> Armstrong Wins His 7th Tour de France Stage!
> Lance Armstrong has finished with a time of 1h05'01" - and average speed of
> 53.986kph, the 2nd fastest time trial in Tour de France history!
>
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> http://www.greatoutdoors.com/velonews/race/road/00tdf/stages/19/minute.html
>
> Ray
Ok. Now that it's all over I'm going to ask that terrible question. Can
this be done clean.
Given that the levle of doping in the mid to late 90's was high, and
that the previous time trial record was done over a shorter course, how
can sombody who is not doped produce this level of performance at such a
late stage in the tour.
How can the performance of the athletes improve to such an extent that a
non doped athlete can out perform a doped one of two or three years ago?
I'm not casting aspargus at Lance in particular, as the genral speed on
the time trial was very high, and the man is a machine, I'm just asking
is all.
Brian P "This is not a troll" Casey
Andrew Coggan
1) the second ITT this year was point-to-point, with a following tailwind of 20
km/h, whereas I believe the stage that Indurain won (the previous TdF long ITT
record) was a loop course around a lake. (Lemond also set his TdF record for a
shorter TT - which still stands - on a point-to-point course with a tailwind).
2) the most effective form of doping is likely EPO, but even then the actual
improvement in performance is smaller than most people seem to believe...raising
your hematocrit from, say, 40% to 50% with EPO (or hypoxic/hypobaric training, if
you could get that much of an increase that way) will increase your VO2max by
roughly 10%, and your sustainable power by slightly less than that. Given the
near-cubic relationship between power and speed, the increase in speed might be
only 1-1.5 km/h. That's huge when your competing against others on the same
course under similar weather conditions, but not so great that you can
automatically assume that doping is required to set a record for a TT held on
open roads (see above).
Andrew Coggan
Brian Wagner
>
> Alright, alright!
>
> How many me too's will I see?
>
> What is your current form of execution?
Now THAT question could start an interesting thread....
Mike Tennent
>Alright, alright!
>
>How many me too's will I see?
>
>What is your current form of execution?
>
>Ray
>
You gotta do your next O' distance tri on a KMart $50 special. <g>
What's even more remarkable about Lance's time is that the only faster
TT on the tour ever is Lemond's, but Greg's was on a course half the
distance of Lance's.
34 mph for 36 friggin' miles?!?!
Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"
Ironman Canada '98 16:17:03
Great Floridian '99, 17:13:38
johnn...@my-deja.com
widely speculated that Lemond was juiced in that TT? Remember there are
no drug controls on the last stage of the Tour and that Lemond has often
been called the poster boy for EPO.
Personally, I don't feel Lance is using anything, but we have no way of
knowing for sure. I just think the man has, to quote the old b-ball
term, "skills".
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Before you buy.
Mike Tennent
>Brian P "This is not a troll" Casey
Bull shit.
Perhaps you missed where Lance passed a surprise drug test last week?
Mike "And when did you stop beating your wife?" Tennent
timhigdogspot1
>Ok. Now that it's all over I'm going to ask that terrible question. Can
>this be done clean.
>
Looks like it just was.
>Given that the levle of doping in the mid to late 90's was high, and
>that the previous time trial record was done over a shorter course, how
>can sombody who is not doped produce this level of performance at such a
>late stage in the tour.
>
Talent, training, different course conditions, mostly talent and training I
reckon.
>How can the performance of the athletes improve to such an extent that a
>non doped athlete can out perform a doped one of two or three years ago?
You mean like Micheal Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Tiger Woods, Mark Allen, Kurt
Warner (sorry, I'm a Rams fan) ect... Some people are just above and beyond the
rest, Lance is obviously one of those people.
>I'm not casting aspargus at Lance in particular, as the genral speed on
>the time trial was very high, and the man is a machine, I'm just asking
>is all.
>
>Brian P "This is not a troll" Casey
>
Troll.
tim(dogspot1)
buaidh no bas
Brian P Casey
>
> >Brian P "This is not a troll" Casey
>
>
> Perhaps you missed where Lance passed a surprise drug test last week?
No Mike I'm not trolling.
I'm in fact a HUGE Lance fan. It's just that the specter of doping hangs
over cycling like a dark cloud, and I can't see any way of escaping the
conclusion that if the overall performance level of the TdF hasnt droped
in the last years then the doping must still be taking place.
As to the dope tests. There are substances which can be detected which
the tester they are not allowed report 'cos their not on the banned
list, and there doping techniques which are very difficult to detect.
Besides Lance being tested is hardly a surprise!
The man claims to be on his bike, I hope its the truth.
Brian P "devils advocate is the term I prefer" Casey