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Lynne Fonda-Kosorek

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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anybody see this telecast last night?

Tricia Richter

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In article <6hg3js$q5s$1...@supernews.com>, "Lynne Fonda-Kosorek"
<nova...@redshift.com> wrote:

> anybody see this telecast last night?

Sure did! The snakes, spiders, and spear grass scared the s**t outta me!
The rappelling and climbing looked like hellafun, though.

What really got me was the preview of coming attractions that featured
shots of teams getting tossed about in the white-water rafting section,
and some guy being hurled out of his raft into a huge boulder---looked
like he actually got pinned between the raft and the boulder, OUCH!

I dunno, adventure racing looks like fun, but given the significant risks
of bodily injury or even death, I find myself wondering just how far I
personally would be willing to push myself. Not that it matters; I don't
think I could ever do adventure racing, or any team sport for that matter,
because I'm such a lousy athlete! Don't think I could ever feel like
anything but a burden to any team that I was on, and the pressure to keep
pushing yourself for the good of the team would probably lead me to
overreach my bounds in some seriously stupid way.

Great stuff to watch, though! I really, REALLY want to learn to rock
climb. Sometime when I'm no longer spending every spare minute training
for Ironman...

Tri-Baby

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>anybody see this telecast last night?

Yes. And my wife immediately said "don't get any ideas." I guess triathlons
are enough...they only last one day.

Alison Keple

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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"Lynne Fonda-Kosorek" <nova...@redshift.com> writes: > anybody see this telecast last night?
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Sure did!! While the eco-challenge certainly looks appealing (in a wierd
sort of way, I'm sure people here can relate), I think it's actually
more ardurous than the TV show depicts. While I would love to be a part
of something like that, I believe it would take a huge commitment, both
time and money. The average person, even the average athlete, does not
possess the majority of skills needed to complete an event like this.

What I would like to see are "mini-adventure" races, may up to 2 days in
length. While these would obviously be not nearly anything like the eco-
challenge, they would provide an opportunity for a different sort of
race. I'm sure these would attract a lot of people from all sorts of
athletic endeavours, kayakers, climbers. mountain bikers, hikers, and
of course, triathletes. Make it a true multisport event!

Alison Keple
Mill Bay, BC
ake...@direct.ca

Treemoss2

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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>anybody see this telecast last night?

I did. I made a point to see it. I have been in adventure races and they are a
lot of fun.
I am pretty dissapointed when I try to find team members though. Seems like a
lot triathletes are not adventurous enough to do adventure races.
Remember when triathlons were an adventure. Well, that's the way these races
are. I guess triathlon has become such a mainstream sport that now anyone can,
and does, do it.
Way back when (early 80's) triathlons were on the edge of the extreme. Now you
can't get these same people to try an adventure race.

Treemoss2

Laura Dickinson Lee

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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I saw it too, great stuff. Compare the quality of that telecast to the
mini-series nature of the IM coverage. IMHO, I thought Discovery channel did a
great job.

Laura

Tricia Richter wrote:
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> In article <6hg3js$q5s$1...@supernews.com>, "Lynne Fonda-Kosorek"
> <nova...@redshift.com> wrote:
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> > anybody see this telecast last night?
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Joe Foster

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Lynne Fonda-Kosorek wrote:
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> anybody see this telecast last night?

Telecast, hell, did anyone see that incredible blister covering half
that competitors foot - YIKES!
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JIM

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> anybody see this telecast last night?

Yeah, but if you're interested in doing it, forget it. they're not
taking applications til 1999. They have a pretty interesting web site though

www.ecochallenge.com


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JoePaRulz

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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If you need a team member, Treemoss2, look me up.
Sean Kern
2d Lt, USAF
Colorado Springs, CO
joep...@aol.com

"If your mind believes, your body achieves!"

Matterfam

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but I didn't think the show made it
look as difficult as it really is. I guess sleep deprivation doen't show up
too well on camera. Having a friend who was there (he was one of the FBI
agents), and seeing how hard he trains, I think I'll stick to tri's.

Lynne Fonda-Kosorek

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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I love watching my 'sometimes coach' Terry Schneider, of TEAM S.C.A.R. . She
is soooooooooo tough !! They actually led the race through checkpoint
number # 11 !!

I know how they finished , but I won't ruin it for y'all !

mi...@cdh.com

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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In article <6hg3js$q5s$1...@supernews.com>#1/1,

"Lynne Fonda-Kosorek" <nova...@redshift.com> wrote:
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> anybody see this telecast last night?
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Many of these adventrure racers start out as triathletes.

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Robert J. Nagle

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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What I would like to see are "mini-adventure" races, may up to 2 days in
length. While these would obviously be not nearly anything like the eco-
challenge, they would provide an opportunity for a different sort of
race. I'm sure these would attract a lot of people from all sorts of
athletic endeavours, kayakers, climbers. mountain bikers, hikers, and
of course, triathletes. Make it a true multisport event!

Well, guess what ?

More and more events of this kind are popping hop, in the US, in
Europe and the antipodes (of course they've have them down there for a
while).

For example, Salomon's series of 36 hours events in 6 different
countries in Europe this summer.
The recently announced Met-RX event in Lake Perris, CA.
The California Eco-Adventure this coming September (put on by
experienced RD Dan Barger).
Up in your neck of the woods Greg Sproule has run the Sea-to-Summit
over two days for a couple of years (and Paul Fredericks is putting on
a race near Ottawa, plus there are at least two other weekend events
in Canada).
The 4Winds group in AZ is putting on at least 2 weekend races this
year.
And Janeen Steffen is putting on the Desert Quest in AZ in October.

A fairly complete calendar can be found at
http://yuri.harvard.edu/~nagle.

If there's nothing happening in your area, organize something (and let
me know about it so I can add it to my calendar).

RN
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ex...@psu.edu

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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> In article <6hg3js$q5s$1...@supernews.com>#1/1,
> "Lynne Fonda-Kosorek" <nova...@redshift.com> wrote:
> >
> > anybody see this telecast last night?
> >

I watched and vicarously enjoyed the race immensely until the camera
homed in on the leech in one of the guy's eyes. Uggggghhhhh. No, I
won't do that! That was straight out of the X-Files.

I agree that the race was certainly much more difficult than it
appeared. But unlike a fictional drama, the camera couldn't get in the
worn-down faces of sleepless all-night bikers or just put make-up on at
the transistions and have them mug into the camera. They did a
fabulous job of showing the difficulties, but it takes a long time to
show that time is long, and it was that longness of dark, sleepless
time which was perhaps the most trying aspect of the race. Where
survival becomes the foremost challenge I am surprised anyone could
maintain a "race" attitude. I look forward to tonight's concluding
program.

Ruth Kazez
ex...@psu.edu

CoffeeBean

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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Anyone looking for a team mate/training partner in the NY/NJ area
should email me. I'm going to be situated back home in a few weeks
and I can give you a brief description of myself for anyone interested.

I'm looking to attempt to qualify for and finish an eco-challenge.
Seems like slow and steady (eco-internet of NZ) has the right strategy
for this type of race.

Dan Shea
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Robert J. Nagle

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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Correction: New Zealand AND Ireland
Never believe what youy see on the box.

RN (captain, team Eco-Internet)

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SBakerRUN

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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>Having a friend who was there (he was one of the FBI
>agents), and seeing how hard he trains, I think I'll stick to tri's.

That was one of my questions while watching the show - how do you train for
something like that?

sue

Stephen Fleck

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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ex...@psu.edu writes:
> Where
> survival becomes the foremost challenge I am surprised anyone could
> maintain a "race" attitude. I look forward to tonight's concluding
> program.
>
> Ruth Kazez
>

Ruth,

I think that you have got to the heart of the issue here. I know that I will get
hammered for this, but with all due respect the Eco-Challenge and indeed a host
of other Multi-day events( I think they just finished up a 1000 mile track
"race" in Australia, or perhaps they are still running!!!)seem to attract a
different sort of athlete. The type of athlete who is always willing to go a
little or lot longer, in some cases until they are the last standing. I do
respect these people, but is it more about surviving or racing? Of course they
used to ask the same thing about a crazy race called the Ironman!

Steve Fleck

Alison Keple

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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trio...@direct.ca (Stephen Fleck) writes: >
>
> I think that you have got to the heart of the issue here. I know that I will get
> hammered for this, but with all due respect the Eco-Challenge and indeed a host
> of other Multi-day events( I think they just finished up a 1000 mile track
> "race" in Australia, or perhaps they are still running!!!)seem to attract a
> different sort of athlete. The type of athlete who is always willing to go a
> little or lot longer, in some cases until they are the last standing. I do
> respect these people, but is it more about surviving or racing? Of course they
> used to ask the same thing about a crazy race called the Ironman!
>
> Steve Fleck

I think in some aspects "survival" is racing in an event like the eco-
challenge. That's definately part of the appeal - it's an event where
more than athletic ability is necessary. I think a lot of triathletes
can relate to the mental games the eco-challenge must require, that's
probably the biggest part of the race, IMHO.

Tricia Richter

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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Hey, Robert---

I can't remember exactly right now, but was it yourself or one of your
team mates who got stung by the stinging tree at EcoChallenge? What have
been the long term effects of that injury? Sure sounded ominous when they
talked about the pain lasting, on and off, for years!!

Just curious---

CoffeeBean

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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SBakerRUN (sbak...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Having a friend who was there (he was one of the FBI

: sue

Simple answer: very very hard
Complex answer: very very hard

There really is no other way but to practice each of the events so you
have adequate skill in them before undertaking an arduous race like
that. I would also suggest running cycling and swimming don't hurt
either. =)

Dan
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CoffeeBean

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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Robert J. Nagle (na...@yuri.harvard.edu) wrote:

: Correction: New Zealand AND Ireland


: Never believe what youy see on the box.

: RN (captain, team Eco-Internet)

I stand corrected.
By the way, once again you guys kicked ass. (As if you didn't already
know that)

Dan "Who can't wait to tell his running partner the team captain of
eco-internet actually acknowledged my existence."

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danshea

Bernie Borgmann

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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I would check with your local zoo and see if they would let you train in the
poison snake and spider pit. I for one would move a hell of a lot faster and
stoping to rest wouldn't be much of an issue.

Bernie Borgmann

Phil Humphreys

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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Robert forgot to mention the ACE Races series starting up in the UK.

So any British people out there who are interested in adventure racing,
take a look at my web site for more information.

http://www.ssnyitm.demon.co.uk

Phil
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flash501

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Apr 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/30/98
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need help on two fronts.
i have an opening for a female teammate for the upcoming
hi-tech series, miami race in particular.
also looking for a board to post the opening on
since the eco-challenge board doesn't allow postings
anymore.
p.s.....if there are any males looking to train in the s. fla.
area i can get u set up for upcoming races....let me know

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