is aranxta sanchez-vicario a lesbian?
big benz
Robert B. Waltz
> is aranxta sanchez-vicario a lesbian?
Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
Yes, obviously a lesbian.
Snort.
--
Robert B. Waltz
(e-mail address hidden to avoid spam -- you know which text to remove)
big benz
>
> Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
> married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
>
> Yes, obviously a lesbian.
>
but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
a well-known, practicing lesbian?
that was why i was wondering; there have to be more lesbians than
amelie mauresmo on the wta tour.
Robert B. Waltz
> "Robert B. Waltz" wrote:
> >
> > Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
> > married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
> >
> > Yes, obviously a lesbian.
> >
>
> but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
Try "Juan Vehils."
And most doubles partnerships are *not* based on sexual preference!
Consider that Martina Hingis, who is very heterosexual, partnered
with Jana Novotna, who (last I heard) was still involved with Hana
Mandlikova. Similarly, Pam Shriver is heterosexual, and she won
21 Slams with Navratilova! And Natasha Zvereva was not a sexual
partner of Gigi Fernandez.
> that was why i was wondering;
No, you're wondering because you consider sexuality more important
than the game. Who *cares* what the players do in their off time?
>there have to be more lesbians than
> amelie mauresmo on the wta tour.
And if they want you to know, they will tell you, and if they
don't want you to know, what right have you to ask?
Georgiana Gates
(Wasn't there a Spanish painter named Joan Duro?). As for playing
with Martina, perhaps ASV thinks Martina knows something about doubles.
Ted of Ted's Tennis
<3ADF8E...@hal-pc.org>:
>big benz wrote:
>>
>> "Robert B. Waltz" wrote:
>> >
>> > Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
>> > married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
>> >
>> > Yes, obviously a lesbian.
>> >
>>
>> but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
>> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
>> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
>>
>> that was why i was wondering; there have to be more lesbians than
>> amelie mauresmo on the wta tour.
>"Joan" is a Spanish name, not an English name. She is married to a man.
>(Wasn't there a Spanish painter named Joan Duro?).
You're thinking of Joan Miro. (There should probably be some accent marks
there, but I don't speak Spanish or Catalan, and so don't know where they
go.) But yes -- Joan Miro was a man. As was Evelyn Waugh. And Brett
Butler is both a man and a woman.
> As for playing
>with Martina, perhaps ASV thinks Martina knows something about doubles.
Which is why some on the NG think the young Martina should play doubles
with the elder Martina.
Having said that, why are we all responding to this troll anyhow?
--
Ted of Ted's Tennis
http://tedstennis.tripod.com/index.html
If God didn't want us to eat in church, He would have made gluttony a sin.
-- Homer Simpson
Ted of Ted's Tennis
Waltz) wrote in <waltzmn.nospam-...@tc00215.skypoint.net>:
>big benz <s5...@benz.car> wrote:
>
>> "Robert B. Waltz" wrote:
>> >
>> > Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
>> > married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
>> >
>> > Yes, obviously a lesbian.
>> >
>>
>> but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
>> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
>> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
>
>Try "Juan Vehils."
Nitpick: I think it *is* Joan Vehils. They're both Catalan by ethnicity,
but Spanish by citizenship. Perhaps Marsha can clear this up for the both
of us.
>And most doubles partnerships are *not* based on sexual preference!
>Consider that Martina Hingis, who is very heterosexual, partnered
>with Jana Novotna, who (last I heard) was still involved with Hana
>Mandlikova.
Topic for a different post, but which I'm including here because my
newsreader requests 40% of any post be new material: Which players have had
their peak performance while being romantically involved with their coach?
I can think of Halard, van Roost, and Testud in addition to Novotna
>Similarly, Pam Shriver is heterosexual, and she won
>21 Slams with Navratilova! And Natasha Zvereva was not a sexual
>partner of Gigi Fernandez.
Speaking of doubles partnerships clearly not being based on sexual
preference, I'd like to see a doubles partnership of Hingis and Mauresmo.
:-)
And as I said to Georgiana, why are any of us responding to this troll
Benjamin
that would be my question ...
Georgiana Gates
>
> Somebody claiming to be ram...@hal-pc.org (Georgiana Gates) wrote in
> <3ADF8E...@hal-pc.org>:
>
> >big benz wrote:
> >>
> >> "Robert B. Waltz" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
> >> > married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, obviously a lesbian.
> >> >
> >>
> >> but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
> >> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
> >> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
> >>
> >> that was why i was wondering; there have to be more lesbians than
> >> amelie mauresmo on the wta tour.
> >"Joan" is a Spanish name, not an English name. She is married to a man.
> >(Wasn't there a Spanish painter named Joan Duro?).
>
> You're thinking of Joan Miro. (There should probably be some accent marks
> there, but I don't speak Spanish or Catalan, and so don't know where they
> go.) But yes -- Joan Miro was a man. As was Evelyn Waugh. And Brett
> Butler is both a man and a woman.
>
> > As for playing
> >with Martina, perhaps ASV thinks Martina knows something about doubles.
>
> Which is why some on the NG think the young Martina should play doubles
> with the elder Martina.
>
> Having said that, why are we all responding to this troll anyhow?
>
Crash
from 1893 to 1983. His painting was sort of abstract, but
still appealing to the man on the street.
"Ted of Ted's Tennis" <tedst...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:9088EE40Atedst...@207.106.92.76...
Bill Smith
a well-known, practicing lesbian?
that was why i was wondering; there have to be more lesbians than
amelie mauresmo on the wta tour.<<<
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First, just to chime in... I could give you a list and you could check it
twice, if you want to be naughty and not nice. But while it might be important
information to single guys who can't figure out why the phone calls go
unreturned, I for one don't really care if they are from Mars or Venus.
In regards to your guilty by association theory of playing doubles with a
lesbian partner means... well, I may just have to stop posting here as the
association with this newsgroup... I mean I was BORN in San Francisco, so what
would my wife begin to think?
Bill Smith
Tennis Professional USPTA, USRSA
big benz
>
> And as I said to Georgiana, why are any of us responding to this troll
> anyhow?
>
let me tell you something about guys "ted"; a lot of guys dig
lesbians. that doesn't mean that we're 'trolls', that just means
that we're guys.
a
big benz wrote:
> >let me tell you something about guys "ted"; a lot of guys dig
> >lesbians. that doesn't mean that we're 'trolls', that just means
> >that we're guys.
This I don't understand,since lesbians by definition, are attracted to
women only. If you said,bisexual,then maybe I understand where you are going
with this.
Benjamin
> twice, if you want to be naughty and not nice. But while it might be
important
> information to single guys who can't figure out why the phone calls go
> unreturned, I for one don't really care if they are from Mars or Venus.
>
> In regards to your guilty by association theory of playing doubles with a
> lesbian partner means... well, I may just have to stop posting here as the
> association with this newsgroup... I mean I was BORN in San Francisco, so what
> would my wife begin to think?
heh
or, as a writer to dear abby once asked about two women who roomed
together in the apartment next to hers, "abby, are these women
lebanese???"
but, seriously, people's preoccupation w/ the sexuality of those in the
mass media is an interesting phenomenon, socialogically speaking ... but,
in terms of tennis, it's BORING ... get over it ... it's just sex ... who
cares who they are doing or how or where or when or how often or anything
else? ... the sniggling junior-high level commentary on this topic never
ceases to amaze ... if ignorance is bliss, these people must be ecstatic
...
Benjamin
> > anyhow?
> >
>
> let me tell you something about guys "ted"; a lot of guys dig
> lesbians. that doesn't mean that we're 'trolls', that just means
> that we're guys.
so go post about it on
alt.I.have.no.sex.life.so.I.am.compelled.to.speculate.about.tennis.players'.sex.lives
...
José M. Malo
news:9088E7E14tedst...@207.106.92.76...
> Somebody claiming to be waltzmn...@skypoint.com.nospam (Robert B.
> Waltz) wrote in <waltzmn.nospam-...@tc00215.skypoint.net>:
>
> Nitpick: I think it *is* Joan Vehils. They're both Catalan by ethnicity,
> but Spanish by citizenship. Perhaps Marsha can clear this up for the both
> of us.
I'm not Marsha, but I can tell you that the actual name of ASV's husband is
Joan Vehils. Joan is the Catalan form of John, as Juan is the Spanish one.
Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.
Whisper
No he's not.
big benz <s5...@benz.car> wrote in message news:3ADF6D55...@benz.car...
>
Coleman E. Howard
big benz <s5...@benz.car> wrote in message news:3ADF8966...@benz.car...
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It is PLAIN TO SEE that you are PUSHING A SEXUAL AGENDA. Period.
Whatever the sexual orientation is of the tennis player's it is THEIR
BUSINESS. Why don't you take this to the alt.lesbian newsgroup. I am sure
you WOULD be WELCOMED with OPEN ARMS.
Coleman
Robert B. Waltz
[ ... ]
> >> but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
> >> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
> >> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
> >
> >Try "Juan Vehils."
>
> Nitpick: I think it *is* Joan Vehils. They're both Catalan by ethnicity,
> but Spanish by citizenship. Perhaps Marsha can clear this up for the both
> of us.
Same name, though, even if spelled differently. I don't know the spelling
with certainty, but I'm trying to demonstrate the origin of the name.
> >And most doubles partnerships are *not* based on sexual preference!
> >Consider that Martina Hingis, who is very heterosexual, partnered
> >with Jana Novotna, who (last I heard) was still involved with Hana
> >Mandlikova.
>
> Topic for a different post, but which I'm including here because my
> newsreader requests 40% of any post be new material: Which players have had
> their peak performance while being romantically involved with their coach?
> I can think of Halard, van Roost, and Testud in addition to Novotna
This is going to be a tough one, because -- to my knowledge -- there
isn't a single acknowledged *male* homosexual player. So we'll never
know about them. For that matter, neither Novotna nor Martinez ever
"came out," though they didn't really hide the matter.
I seem to recall, though, that de los Rios's coach is her husband.
So that's probably another. It looked to me like Maja Palaversic's
husband was warming her up at Bloomington, but I'm not sure one can
refer to her peak performance. :-(
> >Similarly, Pam Shriver is heterosexual, and she won
> >21 Slams with Navratilova!
BTW -- My error here. Shriver has 21 Slams, but only 20 with Navratilova.
#21 was with Zvereva.
>And Natasha Zvereva was not a sexual
> >partner of Gigi Fernandez.
>
> Speaking of doubles partnerships clearly not being based on sexual
> preference, I'd like to see a doubles partnership of Hingis and Mauresmo.
> :-)
I wouldn't. I oppose weapons of mass destruction. :-)
> And as I said to Georgiana, why are any of us responding to this troll
> anyhow?
To prevent anyone else from listening to it.
big benz
>
> This I don't understand,since lesbians by definition, are attracted to
> women only. If you said,bisexual,then maybe I understand where you are going
> with this.
>
you're right, it's BISEXUALITY that guys really dig, since a lot of
guys see the lesbians stuff as the warm up act for the real thing.
mimus
>Joan Miró was a very well known Spanish painter who lived
>from 1893 to 1983. His painting was sort of abstract, but
>still appealing to the man on the street.
Best painter of the Twentieth Century. Cubist/surrealist.
Runners-up: Tanguy, Dali.
I don't think any of them were known for tennis paintings, though.
Although nothing would surprise me from Dali ("Tennis Ball Making Love
to a Stove"?).
--
.sigzip*
Benjamin
> >from 1893 to 1983. His painting was sort of abstract, but
> >still appealing to the man on the street.
>
> Best painter of the Twentieth Century. Cubist/surrealist.
>
> Runners-up: Tanguy, Dali.
>
> I don't think any of them were known for tennis paintings, though.
>
> Although nothing would surprise me from Dali ("Tennis Ball Making Love
> to a Stove"?).
cool beans -- I love that stuff ... though no one seems ever to have heard
of yves, so it's nice to see his name mentioned along w/ the others
you might also enjoy this hilarious dali painting send-up:
Ted of Ted's Tennis
in <benjamin.nospam-...@10.0.0.2>:
Somebody has a horrible sense of humor. I'd rather see "Dogs Playing
Tennis".
I prefer Seurat, although he's from the 19th century.
ObTennis: to get back to the topic of the original post in this thread,
what I want to know is whether "Tennis Ball Making Love to a Stove" would
classify as lesbian tennis or not. :-)
Benjamin
well, I can see your point ...
mimus
>Somebody claiming to be benjami...@spamno.benmoss.cx (Benjamin) wrote
>in <benjamin.nospam-...@10.0.0.2>:
>
>>> >Joan Miró was a very well known Spanish painter who lived
>>> >from 1893 to 1983. His painting was sort of abstract, but
>>> >still appealing to the man on the street.
>>>
>>> Best painter of the Twentieth Century. Cubist/surrealist.
>>>
>>> Runners-up: Tanguy, Dali.
>>>
>>> I don't think any of them were known for tennis paintings, though.
>>>
>>> Although nothing would surprise me from Dali ("Tennis Ball Making Love
>>> to a Stove"?).
>>
>>cool beans -- I love that stuff ... though no one seems ever to have heard
>>of yves, so it's nice to see his name mentioned along w/ the others
>>
>>you might also enjoy this hilarious dali painting send-up:
>>
>>http://www.waylay.com/Checkered_Past/cp1.html
>
>Somebody has a horrible sense of humor. I'd rather see "Dogs Playing
>Tennis".
>
>I prefer Seurat, although he's from the 19th century.
>
>ObTennis: to get back to the topic of the original post in this thread,
>what I want to know is whether "Tennis Ball Making Love to a Stove" would
>classify as lesbian tennis or not. :-)
Hmm, looking at it in the terms of that damnable Freudian meme-plague
I'd have to say no.
>Ted of Ted's Tennis
>http://tedstennis.tripod.com/index.html
>If God didn't want us to eat in church, He would have made gluttony a sin.
>-- Homer Simpson
--
.sigzip*
mimus
I just found a Miro screensaver, neener neener:
http://downloads.excite.ca/themes/savers/preview/73776.html
God, I love the Internet.
Shall we return to the ng topic now?
--
.sigzip*
mimus
>I just found a Miro screensaver, neener neener:
>
>http://downloads.excite.ca/themes/savers/preview/73776.html
They also have a Tanguy:
http://downloads.excite.ca/themes/savers/preview/72507.html
Catch 'em before the copyright police do.
--
.sigzip*
howard stern
>>> also isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
>a well-known, practicing lesbian?
>
>that was why i was wondering; there have to be more lesbians than
>amelie mauresmo on the wta tour.<<<
>
>
>First, just to chime in... I could give you a list and you could check it
>twice, if you want to be naughty and not nice. But while it might be
important
>information to single guys who can't figure out why the phone calls go
>unreturned, I for one don't really care if they are from Mars or Venus.
>
>In regards to your guilty by association theory of playing doubles with a
>lesbian partner means... well, I may just have to stop posting here as the
>association with this newsgroup... I mean I was BORN in San Francisco, so
what
>would my wife begin to think?
>Tennis Professional USPTA, USRSA
Get out of the closet. Your wife? OK, if you want to call him your wife.
Bill Smith
Mr. Stern-
Nice try, but wrong guy. Now I am very real, unlike most posters, posers and
poofters on this newsgroup. To quote James Thurber, "You could look it up."
http://hometown.aol.com/tennismith/myhomepage/profile.html
http://hometown.aol.com/tennismith/myhomepage/profile.html
http://dcisports.schoolsports.com/article.asp?spcatid=®ionid=18&Article
ID=22285
Now, care to step out of YOUR closet of anonymity?
Marsha Strong
Tennis) wrote:
>Somebody claiming to be waltzmn...@skypoint.com.nospam (Robert B.
>Waltz) wrote in <waltzmn.nospam-...@tc00215.skypoint.net>:
>
>>big benz <s5...@benz.car> wrote:
>>
>>> "Robert B. Waltz" wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Let's see. She's been seeing men all her life. She just got
>>> > married. She took January off to spend on a delayed honeymoon.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, obviously a lesbian.
>>> >
>>>
>>> but didn't she get married to someone named "joan vehils"? also
>>> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
>>> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
>>
>>Try "Juan Vehils."
>
>Nitpick: I think it *is* Joan Vehils. They're both Catalan by ethnicity,
>but Spanish by citizenship. Perhaps Marsha can clear this up for the both
>of us.
Georgiana had it perfectly right -- Joan is Catalan for "John" and
there are other famous men named Joan, including Miro.
Marsha "just back from a GREAT four weeks of tennis watching" Strong
Geo
> >>> isn't she the doubles partner of choice for martina navratilova,
> >>> a well-known, practicing lesbian?
I don't think she's practicing anymore. I think she's got it down pretty
much.
_George_
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