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Raja, The Great

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Apr 16, 2010, 1:56:23 PM4/16/10
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Nice article... Led Zeppelin manager Peter Grant renamed Lead
Zeppelin to Led Zeppelin to prevent "thick Americans" from pronouncing
it "leed". Guess he had a point.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/4824

Why do they call Americans 'dumb?'

When I was working in Saudi Arabia, a British co-workers once asked
me:" Let me sing you the national anthem of the country of dummies?"
Then he proceeded to sing "the Star-Spangled Banner" with the
following lyrics: "Dumb-dumb-dumb dumb-dumb-dumb..". Another British
co-worker said that Americans were the dumbest race of people on the
face of the Earth.

I asked him why? He said that he once made a phone call using an AT&T
operator and inquired her if he could place a call to London. She
asked him " Where is London? Is that in Europe?" Later he told him
that whenever he switched the TV channel to see a rugby or a cricket
match, American co-workers would simply leave the room, totally
uninterested in the game. In his eyes, these incidents made Americans
"dumb".

America is the largest economy in the world and Americans call
themselves the richest country in the world. American leads the world
in technology, space exploration in other such areas. So, why is this
accusation of being "dumb"? And if Americans are so dumb, why is the
country so rich?

America is rich, there is no doubt about it. And it owes its riches to
many factors. The main factor is probably the culture built on
Protestant work ethics and solid North European common sense. People
work hard and they work smart. They know how to solve problems. While
some may call modern Americans "wastrels", the past generations had
been very thrifty. The country was built on free enterprise and for
hundreds of years the government had a laissez fair policy towards
business. The culture is forward looking with a "can do" attitude.
People are enthusiastic and believe that they can achieve their
individual dreams through discipline and never giving up. Add to this
the fact that education is much more accessible to many more people
than how it was in Europe and the fact that the society has a much
less rigid class structure and you've got yourself a rich country. And
don't forget the fact that the country has lots of natural resources
and unlike the European countries there have not been any major
invasions for the past 200 years or so.

So, where does this dumb thing come from? I think what is happening
here is a classical case of intercultural misunderstanding. It occurs
when foreigners visit the US and when Americans go to foreign
countries. The people that call Americans dumb for the most part are
Europeans. Latin Americans sometimes call US people uncultured, but
not necessarily dumb. So, what is going on?

There seems to be a difference in education. Europeans believe in
being informed about the world outside. Being a well-rounded person is
seen as a virtue. In the US, according to Europeans, people are very
good at their individual professions and a few of their hobbies.
However, studying anything that does not lead to practical results, is
seen as a waste of time. That for some reason seems to include
Geography and World History. So, as long as a conversation between an
American and a foreigner runs along a specific topic such as business
or the American's chose field of expertise, everything seems fine.
Problems start when a European wants to have a broader discussion on
international culture or current world events ( the ones that do not
cover America's involvement in some war). Once a discussion like that
starts, an American tunes out. He gives his conversation partner a
blank look and starts feeling uncomfortable. Some Americans will even
say with pride " I don't know anything about ( insert the topic). You
might be talking to a five-year-old for all one cares.

The neglected areas of Geography and any knowledge of the world
outside the US- a subject that many Europeans take for granted and
learn at an early age which seems to go largely uncovered in the US
causes the impression of 'dumbness'. Brits complain that when they
were in the US, MIT graduates would ask them questions such as : "Is
there a bridge between England and Scotland or do you take a ferry?
One Brit was fuming 'Do you know what that American asked me? He asked
me " So what language do you guys speak in England?" Australian TV
once ran a program where an Aussie went to some American city and
stood there with a map, asking people to show on the map where
Australia was and no one, allegedly, could do it.

And these are American reactions to people who come from fellow- Anglo-
Saxon countries! Things get worse when other countries are involved.
Numerous foreign students who go to the US to study complain that most
Americans have never even heard of their countries to begin with. One
Malaysian girl studying at a college in New York was almost hysterical
" No American has even heard of Malaysia". They keep asking me " Where
is that?" One Saudi Arabian official once told me this story: He was
studying in the US in 1980ies and once he was picnicking with his
friends when a man walked up to them and said " F*** you, Iranian!"
They promptly left the place but later decided to go back and explain
to him that they were not Iranians. Upon approaching the angry man and
telling him that they were not Iranians, the question that came their
way was " So, what the f**** are you?"." We are Saudis!" to which the
man replied " Same f****ing s**t!" In Latin America tales about of US
presidents calling Brazilians "Bolivians" and being surprised that
Brazil had Black people. White South Africans are asked " You come
from Africa, How come you are white?"

The other thing that aggravates the situation is that, because of
geographical and cultural distances involved, even if Americans know
about the existence a country, they have a very distorted picture of
how life in those countries must be. Questions such as " Do you guys
have electricity or TV?" or" Do you guys live in houses and are there
cars in your country?" or "Are there big buildings in your country?"
are asked of Thais, Nigerians and Singaporeans, people whose countries
are quite modern in spite of poverty in some of them. Movies made in
the US about Russia or Korea or Africa notoriously portray poor
peasants and countryside devoid of any civilization whose people,
nevertheless speak English and who all want to go to the US. Since
most Americans have not been to those countries, they blindly believe
the simplified Hollywood version of the world.

A similar phenomenon occurs in the Philippines, a country that was
once a US colony and that adopted an American system of education.
Many foreigners visiting the Philippines or who work with Filipinos
often say that Filipinos, even those with BA degrees have not heard of
many countries unless they are those from which most tourists to the
Philippines come and where Filipinos work : USA, Canada, Japan,
Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Italy, etc. Having a worldy discussion with many
a Filipino is quite difficult in spite of the fact that they are a
well-educated nation.

Hollywood, too , plays a role by putting America in the center of the
world with other countries somehow being "run-away provinces" of
America, who one day will want to join the Union and become another
state of the US. They think that the world speaks English ( because on
the screen most people do) and if some people don't ( actually 75% of
people do not) then they should and soon will. Even the National
Geographic channel covers only the very modern or the very exotic
countries leaving a huge number of countries unmentioned. All these
factors contribute to the international "uninformed-ness" of an
average American and makes him or her appear "dumb" when a meeting
between an American and a person of another culture takes place.

In all fairness, Americans also see some other nations as "dumb". For
example, the "Polish jokes" seems to be a uniquely American
phenomenon. Few people in Europe think that Poles are dumb. Countries
surrounding Poland actually think of them as astute, discreet and
highly cultured people. In Russia, for example, a Pole is highly
respected as being intelligent and even aristocratic. Possibly, the
Polish immigrants to the States were originally poor and appeared
"dumb" to Americans since they did not function well in the American
culture in the beginning. French Canadians whose English was often
poor and who also acted clumsy when they first arrived as immigrants
in the US, were described as "dumb". But these adjusted to the
country, learned the language and the culture and are no longer
referred to as such. However, the "dumb" American image persists,
especially in Europe.

Being uninformed about the rest of the world does more harm than
earning the title of being "dumb". People who think that they live in
paradise while unaware of the many social and technological
improvements that are always taking place in other countries will
eventually fall behind in many areas. They will not be able to adopt
many exciting innovations that are being introduced around the world
all the time. Japan had video- cellphones as early as late nineties
and Sigapore solved its race problem once and for all by very
ingeneous quota systems that seem to benefit rather than harm. Many
countries, such as Slovenia ( Where is that?) have small per capita
prison populations and have much better programs to rehabilitate
prisoners. However, if Americans do not know about them, how will the
country improve?

They will not be able to elect good leaders and will support
international campaigns of dubious usefulness which drain US resources
by diverting money from home to some overseas ventures in which
patriotic Americans always die. They will believe myths about how the
rest of the world is a God-forsaken place and if they become just like
the US, they will be OK.

Such ignorance creates suffering and death and stalls progress at home
and abroad. And changing that requires improving the education at home
and creating a new generation of highly intelligent, worldly citizens.
Such Americans will probably be the world's most perfect human beings.

Administrator

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Apr 16, 2010, 4:45:30 PM4/16/10
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Well for a start they let you in.

Raja, The Great

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Apr 16, 2010, 8:29:19 PM4/16/10
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On Apr 16, 3:45 pm, Administrator <rec.sport.ten...@googlemail.com>
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> Well for a start they let you in.

That was a smart move ;-)

ca1houn

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Apr 17, 2010, 1:43:51 AM4/17/10
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On Apr 16, 1:45 pm, Administrator <rec.sport.ten...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Well for a start they let you in.

lol that was actually a great comment

Fan

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Apr 17, 2010, 2:24:04 AM4/17/10
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Maybe they didn't. There are over 20 million illegals in America, all
telling us how bad America is :-)

DavidW

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Apr 17, 2010, 6:03:55 AM4/17/10
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Because Fan is one. He has single-handedly pushed the average intelliegence of
300 million people down to the 'dumb' range.

bubba

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Apr 17, 2010, 9:43:08 AM4/17/10
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> Such ignorance creates suffering and death and ...
>
> read more »

kill yourself

Raja, The Great

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Apr 17, 2010, 10:33:54 AM4/17/10
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The illegals need to be thrown out. But you obviously don't have the
balls to do that. You torture the legal immigrants instead.

bubba

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Apr 17, 2010, 9:52:15 PM4/17/10
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any civilized society would torture raja

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