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*skriptis
Jan 15, 2021, 1:23:32 PM1/15/21
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It was a peaceful protest.
Protesters had no guns.
They haven't shot anyone.
They haven't burnt anything.
They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't
violent.
They took selfies and laughed inside.
All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people
leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with
many people and with not enough restrictions.
Stampede effect is well known.
You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you
need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow.
So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't
address.
Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives.
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Protesters had no guns.
They haven't shot anyone.
They haven't burnt anything.
They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't
violent.
They took selfies and laughed inside.
All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people
leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with
many people and with not enough restrictions.
Stampede effect is well known.
You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you
need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow.
So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't
address.
Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives.
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The Iceberg
Jan 15, 2021, 2:03:52 PM1/15/21
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bmoore
Jan 15, 2021, 2:32:24 PM1/15/21
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If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.
*skriptis
Jan 15, 2021, 4:28:23 PM1/15/21
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bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > They haven't shot anyone. > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > violent. > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > address. > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives.> all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOLWow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.
how can you claim violence if 99% haven't entered the building?
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> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > They haven't shot anyone. > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > violent. > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > address. > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives.> all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOLWow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.
how can you claim violence if 99% haven't entered the building?
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The Iceberg
Jan 16, 2021, 4:54:35 AM1/16/21
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*skriptis
Jan 16, 2021, 8:54:34 AM1/16/21
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The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you.
Why can't be be honest?
> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you.
Why can't be be honest?
Pelle Svanslös
Jan 16, 2021, 9:25:15 AM1/16/21
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https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65
They are out to do what Trump told them to do:
“We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t
any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.
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That’s born into this world alive
Is either a little Liberal
Or a little Conservative
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*skriptis
Jan 16, 2021, 10:07:18 AM1/16/21
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Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote:> The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you.> > > > Why can't be be honest?> These guys don't have peaceful intentions.https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65They are out to do what Trump told them to do:“We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.-- Every boy and every galThat’s born into this world aliveIs either a little LiberalOr a little Conservative-- W. S. Gilbert
But they're a minority of protesters.
in general it was peaceful.
No guns, no looting, no burning.
> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote:> The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you.> > > > Why can't be be honest?> These guys don't have peaceful intentions.https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65They are out to do what Trump told them to do:“We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.-- Every boy and every galThat’s born into this world aliveIs either a little LiberalOr a little Conservative-- W. S. Gilbert
But they're a minority of protesters.
in general it was peaceful.
No guns, no looting, no burning.
bmoore
Jan 16, 2021, 10:54:06 AM1/16/21
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On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:25:15 AM UTC-8, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote:
> > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Why can't be be honest?
> >
> These guys don't have peaceful intentions.
Right, and it's obvious. But it's also obvious that when people live in an alternate reality, they are blind to this, along with much else. They believe things based on no facts, they claim to know exactly what the people they disagree with believe, and nothing will change that idiocy unless their reality is blown out of the water, which can happen.
> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote:
> > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Why can't be be honest?
> >
> These guys don't have peaceful intentions.
*skriptis
Jan 16, 2021, 11:14:13 AM1/16/21
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bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
I am sure you remember Trump being taken to White House shelter during white house siege?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/trump-flees-to-bunker-as-protests-over-george-floyd-rage-outside-white-house
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:25:15 AM UTC-8, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote: > > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you. > > > > > > > > Why can't be be honest? > >> These guys don't have peaceful intentions. Right, and it's obvious. But it's also obvious that when people live in an alternate reality, they are blind to this, along with much else. They believe things based on no facts, they claim to know exactly what the people they disagree with believe, and nothing will change that idiocy unless their reality is blown out of the water, which can happen. > https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65 > > They are out to do what Trump told them to do: > > “We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t > any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.
funny how you don't condemn democrats inciting BLM to storm the White House?
I am sure you remember Trump being taken to White House shelter during white house siege?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/trump-flees-to-bunker-as-protests-over-george-floyd-rage-outside-white-house
bmoore
Jan 16, 2021, 2:16:57 PM1/16/21
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But you're also changing the subject. Claiming the Capitol protests were peaceful is beyond the pale. Sickening, really. You don't really believe that, do you?
Try not to change the subject so much. Address the subject at hand, or pretty soon your credibility will be down to Ice's level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.[1][2][3]
Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about ..." followed by instancing of an event or situation in the Western world.[7][8][9] According to Russian writer, chess grandmaster and political activist Garry Kasparov, it is a word that was coined to describe the frequent use of a rhetorical diversion by Soviet apologists and dictators, who would counter charges of their oppression, "massacres, gulags, and forced deportations" by invoking American slavery, racism, lynchings, etc.[10] Whataboutism has been used by other politicians and countries as well.
The Iceberg
Jan 16, 2021, 2:47:10 PM1/16/21
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they are out to do what Obama, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Pelosi told them to do: "Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer. Michael was unarmed yet shot 6 times. We must confront police violence head on." "I don't know why there aren't uprisings all across the country" "if you see anybody from the cabinet in a restaurant etc you get out and create a crowd!" "we're coming for the suburbs next!"
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The Iceberg
Jan 16, 2021, 2:50:17 PM1/16/21
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On Saturday, 16 January 2021 at 19:16:57 UTC, bmoore wrote:
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 8:14:13 AM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:
> > bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
> > > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:25:15 AM UTC-8, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote: > > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you. > > > > > > > > Why can't be be honest? > >> These guys don't have peaceful intentions. Right, and it's obvious. But it's also obvious that when people live in an alternate reality, they are blind to this, along with much else. They believe things based on no facts, they claim to know exactly what the people they disagree with believe, and nothing will change that idiocy unless their reality is blown out of the water, which can happen. > https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65 > > They are out to do what Trump told them to do: > > “We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t > any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.
> > funny how you don't condemn democrats inciting BLM to storm the White House?
> I condemn the violence in DC incited by what happened in MN. But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again? See, believing stuff based on no facts.
>
> But you're also changing the subject. Claiming the Capitol protests were peaceful is beyond the pale. Sickening, really. You don't really believe that, do you?
they were 99% peaceful, you want to disagree with that?
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 8:14:13 AM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:
> > bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
> > > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:25:15 AM UTC-8, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote: > > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you. > > > > > > > > Why can't be be honest? > >> These guys don't have peaceful intentions. Right, and it's obvious. But it's also obvious that when people live in an alternate reality, they are blind to this, along with much else. They believe things based on no facts, they claim to know exactly what the people they disagree with believe, and nothing will change that idiocy unless their reality is blown out of the water, which can happen. > https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65 > > They are out to do what Trump told them to do: > > “We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t > any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.
> > funny how you don't condemn democrats inciting BLM to storm the White House?
> I condemn the violence in DC incited by what happened in MN. But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again? See, believing stuff based on no facts.
>
> But you're also changing the subject. Claiming the Capitol protests were peaceful is beyond the pale. Sickening, really. You don't really believe that, do you?
> Try not to change the subject so much. Address the subject at hand, or pretty soon your credibility will be down to Ice's level.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
>
> Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.[1][2][3]
*skriptis
Jan 16, 2021, 4:05:52 PM1/16/21
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bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 8:14:13 AM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:> bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:25:15 AM UTC-8, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote: > > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you. > > > > > > > > Why can't be be honest? > >> These guys don't have peaceful intentions. Right, and it's obvious. But it's also obvious that when people live in an alternate reality, they are blind to this, along with much else. They believe things based on no facts, they claim to know exactly what the people they disagree with believe, and nothing will change that idiocy unless their reality is blown out of the water, which can happen. > https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65 > > They are out to do what Trump told them to do: > > “We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t > any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.> funny how you don't condemn democrats inciting BLM to storm the White House? I condemn the violence in DC incited by what happened in MN. But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again? See, believing stuff based on no facts.But you're also changing the subject. Claiming the Capitol protests were peaceful is beyond the pale. Sickening, really. You don't really believe that, do you?Try not to change the subject so much. Address the subject at hand, or pretty soon your credibility will be down to Ice's level.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhataboutismWhataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.[1][2][3]Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about ..." followed by instancing of an event or situation in the Western world.[7][8][9] According to Russian writer, chess grandmaster and political activist Garry Kasparov, it is a word that was coined to describe the frequent use of a rhetorical diversion by Soviet apologists and dictators, who would counter charges of their oppression, "massacres, gulags, and forced deportations" by invoking American slavery, racism, lynchings, etc.[10] Whataboutism has been used by other politicians and countries as well.> I am sure you remember Trump being taken to White House shelter during white house siege? > > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/trump-flees-to-bunker-as-protests-over-george-floyd-rage-outside-white-house> -- > > > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
Well let's start...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Kasparov
Kasparov was born Garik Kimovich Weinstein (Russian: Гарик Вайнштейн) in Baku, Azerbaijan SSR (now Azerbaijan), Soviet Union. His father, Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein, was Jewish, and his mother, Klara Shagenovna Kasparova, was Armenian.
So not only he is not Russian, he wasn't even born in Russia?
He's a Jew Armenian born in Azerbaijan.
You think he shares anything with real Russian people so that he could speak on their behalf or that he has their best interest at heart or that he likes the government which majority of real Russians like?
The answer is obviously no.
So please stop quoting troll sources.
As for whataboutism, it's true it was often used by Soviet government to counter western propaganda during cold war.
It's all very logical really. E.g. during cold war USA funds radio stations in eastern Europe preaching about freedom trying to subvert USSR government, so it was only logical that USSR would point to the fact USA still had segregation at the time. Why wouldn't they do it?
Tell me who doesn't do it?
China did it recently when USA accused them of being naughty to Uyghurs so China replied to USA "what about your blacks".
It's a retarded reply to a dumb attack.
I would say whataboutism serves the purpose of highlighting the hypocrisy of someone who is taking (and faking) moral high ground.
And it's far from "Russian speciality". Actually you could claim it's a very much an Anglo thing?
The entire Common law is essentially whataboutism. The Anglo-Saxon legal system is based on pointing out to previous cases and memorzing precedents. Right?
Now the fun part, as Iceberg lectured you, pointing out to BLM siege of White House in May 2020, is not whataboutism.
2020 white house siege (Trump went to bunker) incited by the democrats and this 2021 Congress MAGA siege are not independent events.
They're related. One led to another.
Connecting the dots here means putting things in perspective and we're examining cause and effect.
That isn't whataboutism, it's called analysis.
As for January 6 protests, first of all, in many ways it seems like a false flag event?
There seems to have been very little security around the capitol which is suspicious. If you have thousands, tens of thousands of people at a rally, and zero or little security, things can go into unwanted direction.
So I would not exclude false flag here, Pelosi and co deliberately leaving proverbial doors open so that the mob might enter and thus they could blame it on Trump.
But igniting this possibility, overall the protest was very peaceful, no sane person would claim otherwise.
We haven't established the percentages of those who were at a Trump rally and who broke into? Is it 1% or 5%, how much exactly?
You can't judge 95% of people based on what 5% did. Give us the numbers.
But the question is this. Even those 1% or 5%, did they really do anything?
They weren't shooting, looting or burning anything. This tiny minority from a Trump rally, who broke into capitol building were goofing around, laughing and taking selfies.
You can't compare that to BLM savagery who burnt everything last year, after which Trump had to send the guard to dominate the streets.
And finally if we quote CNN, "who says the protests have to be peaceful"?
White people in the US are agitated I would conclude.
The brown supremacy is being imposed on them.
Elections stolen.
And the guy who "won" is a guy who is known to have said "it's a good thing that America will not be a white majority country". He's also on record saying he is a Jewish nationalist.
https://www.arabamericannews.com/2020/03/18/zionist-biden-in-his-own-words-my-name-is-joe-biden-and-everybody-knows-i-love-israel/
People are scared and angry and feel abused.
bmoore
Jan 16, 2021, 4:28:37 PM1/16/21
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Everything else, zero proof and crap logic, as usual. Maybe Andrew Anglin can help. LOL.
bmoore
Jan 16, 2021, 4:37:43 PM1/16/21
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*skriptis
Jan 16, 2021, 4:39:35 PM1/16/21
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bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 1:05:52 PM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:> bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 8:14:13 AM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:> bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:25:15 AM UTC-8, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 16.1.2021 15.54, *skriptis wrote: > > The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:32:24 UTC, bmoore wrote:> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8, iceber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, 15 January 2021 at 18:23:32 UTC, *skriptis wrote: > > > It was a peaceful protest. > > > > > > Protesters had no guns. > > > They haven't shot anyone. > > > They haven't burnt anything. > > > > > > They (some of them) broke into the building, however they weren't > > > violent. > > > > > > They took selfies and laughed inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of it happened because there was a critical mass of people > > > leading to such outcome. Stuff like that is bound to happen with > > > many people and with not enough restrictions. > > > > > > Stampede effect is well known. > > > > > > > > > You can't put 5 cops out there to guard the perimeter. All you > > > need is 10 guys to move past them and then thousands will follow. > > > > > > > > > So Congress security failed, which is something fake news doesn't > > > address. > > > > > > Instead they're spinning the idiotic narratives. > > all the media care about is clicks and way to do that is to continually invent sensational fake news stories and headlines - to trigger Indian idiot Hunter's laptop, bill moore and co. Any headline involving Trump does that now. Really doubt Hunter, jd, PWL or bill even know why they hate Trump so much, it just they been so whipped up by the MSM and are such NPCs. That PBS exec saying he wanted to go after Republican children and put them in camps showed how whipped up they all are in the dumbness! LOL> Wow, you can say with a straight face that it was a peaceful protest. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. > > If you don't like the news you call it fake. If you don't like what someone says you call them Marxists. Yawn.so you want to "burn the constitution", get rid of the electoral college, you want as big government as possible, ever more state control of companies, you support all the gender is fluid nonsense, you agree with removing gender terms from laws as Pelosi said, you love BLM - all things aiming to get rid of the family unit, you're a Squad fan who's main MO is to get rid of capitalism, SOOOO if you're not a Marxist then what in the deuce are you???!! cos Marx would be proud of you. > > > > > > > > Why can't be be honest? > >> These guys don't have peaceful intentions. Right, and it's obvious. But it's also obvious that when people live in an alternate reality, they are blind to this, along with much else. They believe things based on no facts, they claim to know exactly what the people they disagree with believe, and nothing will change that idiocy unless their reality is blown out of the water, which can happen. > https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/01/zip-cuffs-capitol-1-featured-scaled-e1610132753871.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65 > > They are out to do what Trump told them to do: > > “We’ve got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t > any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them”.> funny how you don't condemn democrats inciting BLM to storm the White House? I condemn the violence in DC incited by what happened in MN. But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again? See, believing stuff based on no facts.But you're also changing the subject. Claiming the Capitol protests were peaceful is beyond the pale. Sickening, really. You don't really believe that, do you?Try not to change the subject so much. Address the subject at hand, or pretty soon your credibility will be down to Ice's level.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhataboutismWhataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.[1][2][3]Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about ..." followed by instancing of an event or situation in the Western world.[7][8][9] According to Russian writer, chess grandmaster and political activist Garry Kasparov, it is a word that was coined to describe the frequent use of a rhetorical diversion by Soviet apologists and dictators, who would counter charges of their oppression, "massacres, gulags, and forced deportations" by invoking American slavery, racism, lynchings, etc.[10] Whataboutism has been used by other politicians and countries as well.> I am sure you remember Trump being taken to White House shelter during white house siege? > > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/trump-flees-to-bunker-as-protests-over-george-floyd-rage-outside-white-house> -- > > > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > > > > > Well let's start... > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Kasparov > > Kasparov was born Garik Kimovich Weinstein (Russian: Гарик Вайнштейн) in Baku, Azerbaijan SSR (now Azerbaijan), Soviet Union. His father, Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein, was Jewish, and his mother, Klara Shagenovna Kasparova, was Armenian. > > > So not only he is not Russian, he wasn't even born in Russia? > He's a Jew Armenian born in Azerbaijan. > > You think he shares anything with real Russian people so that he could speak on their behalf or that he has their best interest at heart or that he likes the government which majority of real Russians like? > > The answer is obviously no. > > So please stop quoting troll sources. > > > > As for whataboutism, it's true it was often used by Soviet government to counter western propaganda during cold war. > > It's all very logical really. E.g. during cold war USA funds radio stations in eastern Europe preaching about freedom trying to subvert USSR government, so it was only logical that USSR would point to the fact USA still had segregation at the time. Why wouldn't they do it? > > Tell me who doesn't do it? > > China did it recently when USA accused them of being naughty to Uyghurs so China replied to USA "what about your blacks". > > It's a retarded reply to a dumb attack. > > I would say whataboutism serves the purpose of highlighting the hypocrisy of someone who is taking (and faking) moral high ground. > > And it's far from "Russian speciality". Actually you could claim it's a very much an Anglo thing? > > The entire Common law is essentially whataboutism. The Anglo-Saxon legal system is based on pointing out to previous cases and memorzing precedents. Right? > > > > > > > Now the fun part, as Iceberg lectured you, pointing out to BLM siege of White House in May 2020, is not whataboutism. > > 2020 white house siege (Trump went to bunker) incited by the democrats and this 2021 Congress MAGA siege are not independent events. > > They're related. One led to another. > > Connecting the dots here means putting things in perspective and we're examining cause and effect. > > That isn't whataboutism, it's called analysis. > > > > > > > > As for January 6 protests, first of all, in many ways it seems like a false flag event? > > There seems to have been very little security around the capitol which is suspicious. If you have thousands, tens of thousands of people at a rally, and zero or little security, things can go into unwanted direction. > > So I would not exclude false flag here, Pelosi and co deliberately leaving proverbial doors open so that the mob might enter and thus they could blame it on Trump. > > > > But igniting this possibility, overall the protest was very peaceful, no sane person would claim otherwise. > > We haven't established the percentages of those who were at a Trump rally and who broke into? Is it 1% or 5%, how much exactly? > > You can't judge 95% of people based on what 5% did. Give us the numbers. > > But the question is this. Even those 1% or 5%, did they really do anything? > > They weren't shooting, looting or burning anything. This tiny minority from a Trump rally, who broke into capitol building were goofing around, laughing and taking selfies. > > You can't compare that to BLM savagery who burnt everything last year, after which Trump had to send the guard to dominate the streets. > > > > > > And finally if we quote CNN, "who says the protests have to be peaceful"? > > > White people in the US are agitated I would conclude. > > The brown supremacy is being imposed on them. > > Elections stolen. > > And the guy who "won" is a guy who is known to have said "it's a good thing that America will not be a white majority country". He's also on record saying he is a Jewish nationalist. > > https://www.arabamericannews.com/2020/03/18/zionist-biden-in-his-own-words-my-name-is-joe-biden-and-everybody-knows-i-love-israel/ > > > > People are scared and angry and feel abused.> -- > > > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI don't understand how you can be a Christian and hate God's chosen people.
LOL
Pelle Svanslös
Jan 17, 2021, 3:10:31 AM1/17/21
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On 16.1.2021 17.07, *skriptis wrote:
>
> But they're a minority of protesters.
The whole crowd was there for the same wrong purposes. Tammy realised
>
> But they're a minority of protesters.
this. She realised she was lied to and did the right thing. But she
should of known in advance.
Pelle Svanslös
Jan 17, 2021, 3:20:12 AM1/17/21
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On 16.1.2021 21.47, The Iceberg wrote:> These guys don't have peaceful
intentions.
>
> https://iknowallnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/ccelebrities32349858-0-image-a-148_1598335310785-655x385.jpg
What is this a picture of? When is it taken?
> they are out to do what Obama, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren,
> Pelosi told them to do:
Is that so? There's a couple of things that don't add up here.
> "Michael Brown was murdered by a white police
> officer. Michael was unarmed yet shot 6 times. We must confront
> police violence head on."
This is what Warren tweeted in 2019:
"5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in
Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand
with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for
Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on".
This is not a call for the BLM to burn buildings.
The verdict: a doctored, out of context quote. A lie.
Of course if you don't think police violence and systemic racism should
be fought, or that they don't exist, maybe it's time you said so.
> "I don't know why there aren't uprisings
> all across the country"
This is said in the context of the Trump separation policies at the
Mexican border. Not the BLM riots. Again, full context shows Pelosi is
not encouraging people to actually go to the streets.
The verdict: A lie.
> "if you see anybody from the cabinet in a
> restaurant etc you get out and create a crowd!"
This is as such a questionable thing to say. But the next sentence,
omitted of course, "and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore,
anywhere", says how this pushing back is to be done. It's by telling
them something, not throwing Molotov cocktails.
And again, the context is not the BLM context but the same as in the
above Pelosi quote.
The verdict: Another lie.
> "we're coming for the
> suburbs next!"
Couldn't place this anywhere. Maybe you can clarify. Who said it and when?
The verdict on the claim as a whole, that Warren, Harris, Pelosi are
telling people to do what ever is happening in the picture:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6ZFBEHVADZHRFN42ZBHIJPO7XM.jpg&w=916
This method of hoarding out of context quotes, splicing them up and
making out they all are said to advance one single objective is all too
familiar. Goebbels familiar. Whoever cooked this up knew there would be
a useful idiot somewhere to spread it around.
You should stop this pathological lying, Ice. And make that Tammy-call.
intentions.
>
> https://iknowallnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/ccelebrities32349858-0-image-a-148_1598335310785-655x385.jpg
What is this a picture of? When is it taken?
> they are out to do what Obama, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren,
> Pelosi told them to do:
> "Michael Brown was murdered by a white police
> officer. Michael was unarmed yet shot 6 times. We must confront
> police violence head on."
"5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in
Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand
with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for
Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on".
This is not a call for the BLM to burn buildings.
The verdict: a doctored, out of context quote. A lie.
Of course if you don't think police violence and systemic racism should
be fought, or that they don't exist, maybe it's time you said so.
> "I don't know why there aren't uprisings
> all across the country"
Mexican border. Not the BLM riots. Again, full context shows Pelosi is
not encouraging people to actually go to the streets.
The verdict: A lie.
> "if you see anybody from the cabinet in a
> restaurant etc you get out and create a crowd!"
omitted of course, "and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore,
anywhere", says how this pushing back is to be done. It's by telling
them something, not throwing Molotov cocktails.
And again, the context is not the BLM context but the same as in the
above Pelosi quote.
The verdict: Another lie.
> "we're coming for the
> suburbs next!"
The verdict on the claim as a whole, that Warren, Harris, Pelosi are
telling people to do what ever is happening in the picture:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6ZFBEHVADZHRFN42ZBHIJPO7XM.jpg&w=916
This method of hoarding out of context quotes, splicing them up and
making out they all are said to advance one single objective is all too
familiar. Goebbels familiar. Whoever cooked this up knew there would be
a useful idiot somewhere to spread it around.
You should stop this pathological lying, Ice. And make that Tammy-call.
TT
Jan 17, 2021, 5:17:43 AM1/17/21
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bmoore kirjoitti 16.1.2021 klo 21:16:
> But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again?
He's referring to completely peaceful protest by a handful of protesters
> But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again?
carrying signs in front of the WH on BLM. Trump was hurried to a WH
bunker, and then these protesters were maced by the Trump's gestapo so
that Donald could make a vote-begging photo-op in front of a church
holding the bible upside down.
Claiming of 'storming the WH' is a damn joke or more accurately a lie
since he run out of valid arguments..
-
Here's much better whataboutism, and it rocks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygwwtKnXKpI
Fifteen man taken captive in a hostile foreign land
Scorchin' sun beaming down onto miles and miles of sand
A mideast country being ruled
By a man who thinks it's fun
To hold our people in return
For a sjah that's on the run
I think it's funny
Freedom takes money
It's a heartache and it's hard luck
Well that's tough shit
Man it's no fun
Storm the Iranian embassy
Before they start shootin' down you and me
Scourge of suits in control
Of the diplomaticness
While the nations of the world
Look on and they care less
The Soviet Union won't agree
To an economic plan
And then they laugh and march their troops into Afghanistan
Orders from Moscow
Invade Teheran now
It's a heartache and it's hard luck
Well that's tough shit
Man it's no fun
Storm the Iranian embassy
Before they start shootin' at you and me
A nation worries and reads the papers
Hoping that no-one has died
Hearin' rumours that the hostages
Will soon be tried as spies
Demonstrations on the street
Saying that the end is near
The man from New York Times on vacation
Wants to know what happened here
aggressive acts now
We want the best now
Fifteen moms crying
Is my son dying ?
It's a heartache and it's hard luck
Well that's tough shit
Man it's no fun
Storm the Iranian embassy
Before they start shootin' at you and me
*skriptis
Jan 17, 2021, 5:30:54 AM1/17/21
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TT <as...@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
> bmoore kirjoitti 16.1.2021 klo 21:16:> But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again?He's referring to completely peaceful protest by a handful of protesters carrying signs in front of the WH on BLM. Trump was hurried to a WH bunker, and then these protesters were maced by the Trump's gestapo so that Donald could make a vote-begging photo-op in front of a church holding the bible upside down.Claiming of 'storming the WH' is a damn joke or more accurately a lie since he run out of valid arguments..-Here's much better whataboutism, and it rocks!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygwwtKnXKpIFifteen man taken captive in a hostile foreign landScorchin' sun beaming down onto miles and miles of sandA mideast country being ruledBy a man who thinks it's funTo hold our people in returnFor a sjah that's on the runI think it's funnyFreedom takes moneyIt's a heartache and it's hard luckWell that's tough shitMan it's no funStorm the Iranian embassyBefore they start shootin' down you and meScourge of suits in controlOf the diplomaticnessWhile the nations of the worldLook on and they care lessThe Soviet Union won't agreeTo an economic planAnd then they laugh and march their troops into AfghanistanOrders from MoscowInvade Teheran nowIt's a heartache and it's hard luckWell that's tough shitMan it's no funStorm the Iranian embassyBefore they start shootin' at you and meA nation worries and reads the papersHoping that no-one has diedHearin' rumours that the hostagesWill soon be tried as spiesDemonstrations on the streetSaying that the end is nearThe man from New York Times on vacationWants to know what happened hereaggressive acts nowWe want the best nowFifteen moms cryingIs my son dying ?It's a heartache and it's hard luckWell that's tough shitMan it's no funStorm the Iranian embassyBefore they start shootin' at you and me
Notice how Wikipedia is shitty and biased with its titles?
They call it "storming of the Capitol" while they call this George Floyd protest even though he was a criminal. No mention of that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Washington,_D.C.
Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States, has seen a series of protests following the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis (see George Floyd protests). While most of the events were peaceful, some involved violence, looting and destruction of property.
Status: Ongoing (!!!)
So there was violence, there was looting and there was destruction of property.
> bmoore kirjoitti 16.1.2021 klo 21:16:> But which Democrats incited storming the WH? Or are you just making stuff up again?He's referring to completely peaceful protest by a handful of protesters carrying signs in front of the WH on BLM. Trump was hurried to a WH bunker, and then these protesters were maced by the Trump's gestapo so that Donald could make a vote-begging photo-op in front of a church holding the bible upside down.Claiming of 'storming the WH' is a damn joke or more accurately a lie since he run out of valid arguments..-Here's much better whataboutism, and it rocks!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygwwtKnXKpIFifteen man taken captive in a hostile foreign landScorchin' sun beaming down onto miles and miles of sandA mideast country being ruledBy a man who thinks it's funTo hold our people in returnFor a sjah that's on the runI think it's funnyFreedom takes moneyIt's a heartache and it's hard luckWell that's tough shitMan it's no funStorm the Iranian embassyBefore they start shootin' down you and meScourge of suits in controlOf the diplomaticnessWhile the nations of the worldLook on and they care lessThe Soviet Union won't agreeTo an economic planAnd then they laugh and march their troops into AfghanistanOrders from MoscowInvade Teheran nowIt's a heartache and it's hard luckWell that's tough shitMan it's no funStorm the Iranian embassyBefore they start shootin' at you and meA nation worries and reads the papersHoping that no-one has diedHearin' rumours that the hostagesWill soon be tried as spiesDemonstrations on the streetSaying that the end is nearThe man from New York Times on vacationWants to know what happened hereaggressive acts nowWe want the best nowFifteen moms cryingIs my son dying ?It's a heartache and it's hard luckWell that's tough shitMan it's no funStorm the Iranian embassyBefore they start shootin' at you and me
Notice how Wikipedia is shitty and biased with its titles?
They call it "storming of the Capitol" while they call this George Floyd protest even though he was a criminal. No mention of that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Washington,_D.C.
Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States, has seen a series of protests following the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis (see George Floyd protests). While most of the events were peaceful, some involved violence, looting and destruction of property.
Status: Ongoing (!!!)
So there was violence, there was looting and there was destruction of property.
The Iceberg
Jan 19, 2021, 8:46:30 AM1/19/21
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On Sunday, 17 January 2021 at 08:20:12 UTC, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> On 16.1.2021 21.47, The Iceberg wrote:> These guys don't have peaceful
> intentions.
> >
> > https://iknowallnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/ccelebrities32349858-0-image-a-148_1598335310785-655x385.jpg
>
> What is this a picture of? When is it taken?
the BLM riots.
> On 16.1.2021 21.47, The Iceberg wrote:> These guys don't have peaceful
> intentions.
> >
> > https://iknowallnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/ccelebrities32349858-0-image-a-148_1598335310785-655x385.jpg
>
> What is this a picture of? When is it taken?
> > they are out to do what Obama, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren,
> > Pelosi told them to do:
> Is that so? There's a couple of things that don't add up here.
> > "Michael Brown was murdered by a white police
> > officer. Michael was unarmed yet shot 6 times. We must confront
> > police violence head on."
> This is what Warren tweeted in 2019:
>
> "5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in
> Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand
> with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for
> Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on".
>
> This is not a call for the BLM to burn buildings.
> The verdict: a doctored, out of context quote. A lie.
> Of course if you don't think police violence and systemic racism should
> be fought, or that they don't exist, maybe it's time you said so.
> > "I don't know why there aren't uprisings
> > all across the country"
> This is said in the context of the Trump separation policies at the
> Mexican border. Not the BLM riots. Again, full context shows Pelosi is
> not encouraging people to actually go to the streets.
>
> The verdict: A lie.
this Pelosi quote is just a dogwhistle to leftists AND clear incitement again.
> > "if you see anybody from the cabinet in a
> > restaurant etc you get out and create a crowd!"
> This is as such a questionable thing to say. But the next sentence,
> omitted of course, "and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore,
> anywhere", says how this pushing back is to be done. It's by telling
> them something, not throwing Molotov cocktails.
> And again, the context is not the BLM context but the same as in the
> above Pelosi quote.
>
> The verdict: Another lie.
> > "we're coming for the
> > suburbs next!"
> Couldn't place this anywhere. Maybe you can clarify. Who said it and when?
> The verdict on the claim as a whole, that Warren, Harris, Pelosi are
> telling people to do what ever is happening in the picture:
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6ZFBEHVADZHRFN42ZBHIJPO7XM.jpg&w=916
>
> This method of hoarding out of context quotes, splicing them up and
> making out they all are said to advance one single objective is all too
> familiar. Goebbels familiar. Whoever cooked this up knew there would be
> a useful idiot somewhere to spread it around.
> You should stop this pathological lying, Ice. And make that Tammy-call.
P.S. still dunno what your weird codeword "Tammy call" means, why not explain it.
The Iceberg
Jan 19, 2021, 8:49:42 AM1/19/21
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Pelle Svanslös
Jan 19, 2021, 10:52:44 AM1/19/21
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TT
Jan 19, 2021, 1:03:38 PM1/19/21
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'Keep yappin' man'
bmoore
Jan 19, 2021, 1:56:10 PM1/19/21
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