Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award nominees
Sakari Lund
The player who, throughout the year, conducted himself at the highest
level of professionalism and integrity, who competed with his fellow
players with the utmost spirit of fairness and who promoted the game
through his off-court activities.
Roger Federer
Ivan Ljubicic
Carlos Moya
Jarkko Nieminen
No Nadal there...
http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/1/en/awards/default.asp
Interesting nominees in other categories too. At the time of posting,
they have the texts completely messed up, but for example all four
candidates for "Most Improved" are very good candidates, if they are
the four guys whose names are listed. For example the text for Murray
begins "The 20-year-old Serb finished as the youngest player in the
year-end Top 10 and he compiled his best season by capturing a
personal-high five ATP titles while reaching his first Grand Slam
final at the US Open." and the text for Simon begins "The No. 2
Spaniard (behind Nadal) compiled his best season by winning a
career-high three ATP titles (Auckland, Bastad, Tokyo) and advancing
to his first semifinal at a Grand Slam tournament (US Open)."
I just figured out that the texts are probably from last year and they
are about Djokovic and Ferrer, respectively. But this year's nominees
are Del Potro, Murray, Simon and Tsonga.
Scott
funny how Nadal isn't mentioned. maybe those Magic Fish disqualify
him from a sportsmanship award?
I personally don't think Roger should win it. he consistently says
stupid things about his opponents in interviews.
Hg
A single code violation issued during the prior year should IMO be enough to
disqualify any player from getting Stefan's Award.
Fed got a code violation during last year's Hamburg tourney, not sure about
any other official warnings last year though.
What ticks me off is Fed has won that Award for many years and in some of those
years he received code violations. That's not cricket.
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blueska...@aol.com
Politics anyone?
Nadal should be on that list. Federer skipped out of DC - that merits
an award I guess.
TT
Maybe it's because they don't want him to cry again?
...Geez, I just had a horrible though...what If Nadal gets CYGS this
year beating Roger in all the finals...would Roger cry each and every
time? Hope not! :)
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"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
ahonkan
Rafa has beaten Fed in 5 GS finals to date. How many times did
Fed cry? So if you attempt to think logically (I am not holding
out
much hope), you will realize that Fed's tears at the AO were
mainly
due to the crowd's support & affection for him even in his defeat.
Another clue: he didn't cry after the whipping at the FO or after
the
defeat at Wimbledon - both far more momentous occasions.
Sakari Lund
Not at FO. Might do it at the others...
Back to the awards. I thought they could have put Nadal in the list. I
mean why Moya? I have some vague memories that Ljubicic has done some
off-court things that they might note. Jarkko is just generally liked
by everyone, so it is nice that they notice that.
And about the "Most Improved" (now they have right texts). Very hard
to pick between Del Potro, Murray, Simon and Tsonga. They all deserve
it.
DavidW
In that case a single code violation during your career should disqualify you
from having a sportsmanship award named after you. Did Edberg ever get one?
Whisper
> The player who, throughout the year, conducted himself at the highest
> level of professionalism and integrity, who competed with his fellow
> players with the utmost spirit of fairness and who promoted the game
> through his off-court activities.
>
> Roger Federer
> Ivan Ljubicic
> Carlos Moya
> Jarkko Nieminen
>
DavidW
Even with something as short as that you stick out a mile as not Whisper. Give
it up.
RahimAsif
Federer is more liked by his fellow players than Nadal - remember
Llubijic saying that most of the ATP would be rooting for Fed at FO
2006 final? In spite of his exemplary manners, Nadal isn't
particularly well liked by the rest of the ATP - not as much as
Federer for sure. And they are the ones who vote so...
Hg
>>
>> A single code violation issued during the prior year should IMO be
>> enough to disqualify any player from getting Stefan's Award.
>
> In that case a single code violation during your career should
> disqualify you from having a sportsmanship award named after you. Did
> Edberg ever get one?
If there was one player in Tennis that never got a single cv then it would
have to be Edberg IMO. Don't know for certain if he ever did get one. That
statistic is not readily available - though it would sure be a fun thing to
lookup alongside the usual stats.
Superdave
wrote:
simple.
they do not give sportsmanship awards to CHEATERS !
geez.
blueska...@aol.com
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:00:19 -0700 (PDT), blueskates1...@aol.com
Cry me a river ... oh wait a minute.
Superdave
wrote:
admit it. it's true. deliberately breaking the time rule again and
again is NOT sportsmanship. to give rafa the award would send a
completely wrong signal and condone such unsportsmanlike behaviour.
DavidW
It's up to the umpires to call it. You can't expect him to put a stopwatch on
himself. By definition, if it's not called it's acceptable.
josephm...@netzero.com
> Superdave wrote:
Not really. If it's not called, by definition it's merely not
penalized. "Acceptable" is a loaded word that both implies arguable
ethical validity and raises an unanswered question: to whom? Spineless
umpires? Opposing players? Fans?
Are you familiar with Michael Kinsley? He's an American journalist who
once edited The New Republic (a political rag) and then was the
founding editor of the online magazine Slate. He originated a famous
aphorism (in the world of political punditry, that is) about
misconduct in the bigtime political and economic realms: "The scandal
isn't what's illegal; the scandal is what's legal." I would say that
plenty of conduct in the realm of sports as well goes unpunished but
is, or should be, far from acceptable in the normal sense of the word.
Joe Ramirez
josephm...@netzero.com
Not that it matters much, but the real Whisper at least uses
apostrophes. Rajawhisper can't be bothered to deviate from his usual
bad spelling.
Joe Ramirez
Sakari Lund
>On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:41:49 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> A single code violation issued during the prior year should IMO be
>>> enough to disqualify any player from getting Stefan's Award.
>>
>> In that case a single code violation during your career should
>> disqualify you from having a sportsmanship award named after you. Did
>> Edberg ever get one?
>
>
>If there was one player in Tennis that never got a single cv then it would
>have to be Edberg IMO.
Although he killed a linesman once...
TT
Yeah. Should have gotten code violation for that...
blueska...@aol.com
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:34:46 -0700 (PDT), blueskates1...@aol.com
Right, give it to a guy who insults his opponent after a loss, calling
him one-dimensional.
TT
Will you marry me?
Superdave
Hey bird dog stay away from my quail.
TT
Let's just say I get Kate and you get Raja/Giovanna...ok?
drew
> The player who, throughout the year, conducted himself at the highest
> level of professionalism and integrity, who competed with his fellow
> players with the utmost spirit of fairness and who promoted the game
> through his off-court activities.
>
> Roger Federer
> Ivan Ljubicic
> Carlos Moya
> Jarkko Nieminen
I'd laugh my ass off if Davydenko ever made the list.
pltr...@spamlessxhost.org
>A single code violation issued during the prior year should IMO be enough to
>disqualify any player from getting Stefan's Award.
You can receive code violations for lots of things that have nothing whatsoever
to do with sportsmanship.
For example: sacrificing a point or two for time violations while the trainer
finishes up bandaging a problem joint. It's simply a tradeoff you choose to
make.
-- Larry
wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
sakar...@welho.com (Sakari Lund) wrote:
>
> Back to the awards. I thought they could have put Nadal in the
> list. I
> mean why Moya? I have some vague memories that Ljubicic has done
> some
> off-court things that they might note. Jarkko is just generally
> liked
> by everyone, so it is nice that they notice that.
But Nadal will be Player of the Year.
>
> And about the "Most Improved" (now they have right texts). Very hard
> to pick between Del Potro, Murray, Simon and Tsonga. They all
> deserve
> it.
Most likely Murray will get it, though I agree they're all good choices.
wg
wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
wrote:
>
> In that case a single code violation during your career should
> disqualify you from having a sportsmanship award named after you.
> Did Edberg ever get one?
>
>
Dunno, but he *killed* someone! (Inadvertently, to be sure.)
wg
DavidW
What?!?!
DavidW
There ought to be rules against behaviour that is widely regarded as
unacceptable. Once a gap between the rules and what people consider acceptable
becomes large enough you would think that the ruling body would be under
irresistible pressure to take action. Maybe people do consider Nadal's
time-wasting to be unaccaptable, but only marginally. It's not important enough
to do anything about it.
TT
Yes, his serve hit a linesman in the head, linesman fell down was
carried in stretchers and later died in hospital.
DavidW
> DavidW wrote:
>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <flful.55629$Zp.4...@newsfe21.iad>, n...@email.provided
>>> (DavidW) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In that case a single code violation during your career should
>>>> disqualify you from having a sportsmanship award named after you.
>>>> Did Edberg ever get one?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dunno, but he *killed* someone! (Inadvertently, to be sure.)
>>
>> What?!?!
>>
>
> Yes, his serve hit a linesman in the head, linesman fell down was
> carried in stretchers and later died in hospital.
Okay, I looked it up. Boys' final, USO 1983. It's news to me. You would think
that commentators would have mentioned it in passing during his matches now and
then. Then again, he was so boring that I probably wasn't watching anyway. BTW,
the linesman was actually hit in the groin.
Javier Gonzalez
Exactly, in the head.
wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
> >>
> >
> > Okay, I looked it up. Boys' final, USO 1983. It's news to me. You
> > would think that commentators would have mentioned it in passing
> > during his matches now and then. Then again, he was so boring
> > that I probably wasn't watching anyway. BTW, the linesman was
> > actually hit in the groin.
>
Yes, when I found out about it I was kind of surprised, too, that the
commentators never mentioned it. otoh, it was a weird incident, it was
clearly not Edberg's fault, and given that somebody died it wasn't the
kind of thing they could really joke about. And Edberg was such a gent
that why *would* you mention it unless you wanted to make a crack about
it? So the ones who knew about it probably just let it go.
Come to that, Henman was actually disquialified from Wimbledon (he whacked
a ball in anger that hit a ballkid) very early in his career, and the
commentators never mentioned that either until he'd retired and they did a
retrospective. Henman, too, was a very well-behaved character for all the
rest of his career (and he was desperately apologetic at the time), so it
probably just would have seemed churclish to bring it up. Of course, had
Henman developed into McEnroe: the Next Generation I'm sure we'd have
heard a lot more about it.
wg
Sakari Lund
>> DavidW <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> > Okay, I looked it up. Boys' final, USO 1983. It's news to me. You
>> > would think that commentators would have mentioned it in passing
>> > during his matches now and then. Then again, he was so boring
>> > that I probably wasn't watching anyway. BTW, the linesman was
>> > actually hit in the groin.
>>
>
>Yes, when I found out about it I was kind of surprised, too, that the
>commentators never mentioned it. otoh, it was a weird incident, it was
>clearly not Edberg's fault, and given that somebody died it wasn't the
>kind of thing they could really joke about. And Edberg was such a gent
>that why *would* you mention it unless you wanted to make a crack about
>it? So the ones who knew about it probably just let it go.
Commentators here mention it quite a lot. But I think they didn't do
it during Edberg's matches or during his career, just recently.
Ted S.
> Come to that, Henman was actually disquialified from Wimbledon (he
> whacked a ball in anger that hit a ballkid) very early in his career,
> and the commentators never mentioned that either until he'd retired
> and they did a retrospective. Henman, too, was a very well-behaved
> character for all the rest of his career (and he was desperately
> apologetic at the time), so it probably just would have seemed
> churclish to bring it up. Of course, had Henman developed into
> McEnroe: the Next Generation I'm sure we'd have heard a lot more
> about it.
Their Tim was also extremely lucky that a few days later came the Jeff
Tarango incident.
--
Ted Schuerzinger
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If you're afraid of the ball, don't sit in the front row. --Anastasia
Rodionova
wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
tedst...@myrealbox.com (Ted S.) wrote:
>
> Their Tim was also extremely lucky that a few days later came the
> Jeff
> Tarango incident.
Yes. Henman was graceful and terribly apologetic, even sent flowers.
Tarango was clearly nutty and so was his wife.
wg