Henin mystery
Joe Ramirez
retire really was a sudden, inexplicable impulse:
"Tennis -- Henin had wanted to continue French Open love affair
HAMBURG, Germany, May 14 (Reuters) - As recently as last week Justine
Henin spoke warmly of continuing her French Open love affair, of
having another crack at Wimbledon and defending her Olympic title in
Beijing."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/tennisNews/idUKL1480684820080514?sp=true
I can't believe a mere loss to Safina, even as part of a few months of
subpar play, could have been enough to drive Henin out of the sport.
There must be another major factor that hasn't been disclosed.
Joe Ramirez
Adam Thirnis
she's carrying whisper's baby - she'll go into hiding for 9 months
then get the abomination adopted to avoid public humiliation.
Jim
Care to throw out a few, um, speculative factors as to why? Family,
health, drugs, Democratic candidate race, etc.........
-D
Lax
pltrgyst
<josephm...@netzero.com> wrote:
>I can't believe a mere loss to Safina, even as part of a few months of
>subpar play, could have been enough to drive Henin out of the sport.
>There must be another major factor that hasn't been disclosed.
No mystery -- she's just trolling for RST.
-- Larry
Gracchus
Getting crushed by Sharapova and Serena couldn't have helped, but
that's never stopped her from coming back against those players in the
past. I don't think there necessarily is any hidden factor aside from
what she's disclosed, though. It is sudden and surprising for us, but
then we don't know how long she's been struggling with the prospect of
leaving the game.
kipps
I suppose it is remotely possible, that she wanted to quit for a
while, and why not when you are #1 a la Borg?
al...@webtv.net
Lax.C...@gmail.com (Lax) wrote:
" I think her messed up knee had a
part in the decision. "
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bingo! We have a winner.
I commend her for making a small
fortune and having the good sense
to leave with it now while on top.
DavidW
> On May 15, 2:22 pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>> A story from Reuters today makes it appear that Henin's decision to
>> retire really was a sudden, inexplicable impulse:
>>
>> "Tennis -- Henin had wanted to continue French Open love affair
>>
>> HAMBURG, Germany, May 14 (Reuters) - As recently as last week Justine
>> Henin spoke warmly of continuing her French Open love affair, of
>> having another crack at Wimbledon and defending her Olympic title in
>> Beijing."http://uk.reuters.com/article/tennisNews/idUKL1480684820080514?sp=true
>>
>> I can't believe a mere loss to Safina, even as part of a few months
>> of subpar play, could have been enough to drive Henin out of the
>> sport. There must be another major factor that hasn't been disclosed.
>>
> health, drugs, Democratic candidate race,etc.........
Betting related: throw a match or else.
Arietta
Impossible. Whisper semen does not contain useful amount of sperms as
he lets it out too often in front of Sampras photos.
famous21
Quiting at the top of your game (Number 1 Ranking) is a special exit
from what you love. Too many players hang on to the very end trying
to rebuild their past glory. Justin did it "her way." She quit at the
top. A failed marriage, injury, and the advance of youth in the
tennis ranking could have deminished her place in history.
Cheers to Justin for her surprise to the tennis world. Famous
football stars, Jim Brown and Barry Sanders made the same move to exit
from the arena of competition. I beleive that all of the above
competitors were correct in their decision to depart from what they
loved on their own terms.
Peace is better than aggression,
Famous
____________________________________________________________________
Dave Hazelwood
<josephm...@netzero.com> wrote:
she found out she has cancer ?
Dave Hazelwood
wrote:
Nah, she just found out she is hiv positive ?
Whisper
Borg was no.2.
Whisper
On the contrary it's very potent - my daughter is heading for dux of her
school (1,500 kids) & has been told she is big chance for perfect 100 UAI.
Dave Hazelwood
wrote:
yeah but her 7543 is 0. i guess you will have to abandon her.
Joe Ramirez
"Dux"? "UAI"?
Joe Ramirez
Whisper
Top student
>"UAI"?
>
> Joe Ramirez
University Admission Index. Wants to do combined law/communications
degree & needs 91, but all the teachers expect her to do much better
than that, even perfect 100 is a strong possibility. They all describe
her as gifted, outstanding, brilliant etc, & she came home yesterday
with 5 more awards (top 3 in all subjects). She's very strong in
English & is doing advanced & extension courses - the teachers say her
work is more advanced than any of the teachers.
I was bit concerned about the pressure she might feel, but she's not
worried at all - very confident of her abilities.
Last yr I promised to buy her a new car if she tops 90 so that's
certainly gone.
Also a bit concerned about my younger kid who is strictly average
(academically) by comparison - might be some inferiority complex issues
later on.
Dave Hazelwood
wrote:
I'd be asking your wife what she was doing that night long ago when
you were away on a business trip.
Joe Ramirez
I inferred that from the context, but what exactly does it mean? Is it
an abbreviation? In the United States, the top graduating student in a
high school class is called the "valedictorian" (because he or she
gets to give the big speech at the ceremony -- an odd, tail-wagging-
the-dog sort of coinage), and the student finishing second is the
"salutatorian."
>
> >"UAI"?
>
> > Joe Ramirez
>
> University Admission Index.
Is that based on academic grades, or on a separate, standardized test?
In the U.S., colleges and universities typically look at both high
school grades and the student's score on a test such as the SAT
(Scholastic Aptitude Test) when deciding whether to accept a student.
Each school makes its own independent decision.
> Wants to do combined law/communications
> degree & needs 91,
What a coincidence -- those are my two fields. :) Can you practice
law in Australia with an undergraduate degree (e.g., an LLB), or is a
graduate degree required, as it is here? Btw, if you are good you
typically don't need a degree in communications in order to work in
that field.
> but all the teachers expect her to do much better
> than that, even perfect 100 is a strong possibility. They all describe
> her as gifted, outstanding, brilliant etc, & she came home yesterday
> with 5 more awards (top 3 in all subjects). She's very strong in
> English & is doing advanced & extension courses - the teachers say her
> work is more advanced than any of the teachers.
>
> I was bit concerned about the pressure she might feel, but she's not
> worried at all - very confident of her abilities.
>
> Last yr I promised to buy her a new car if she tops 90 so that's
> certainly gone.
Never give a smart kid an expensive incentive! :) But she sounds like
she has a great future ahead of her. This is a fun but challenging
time of life for both children and their parents. My son graduates
from high school next month and will start college at the end of
August. The social aspect of life will demand as great a transition as
the academic aspect, since he's never lived away from home before.
> Also a bit concerned about my younger kid who is strictly average
> (academically) by comparison - might be some inferiority complex issues
> later on.
The important thing is make sure the younger child doesn't feel
pressured to excel in exactly the same way as the older one. It's
vital for the parents to take a keen interest in whatever it is that
the younger kid enjoys or is good at.
Joe Ramirez
Whisper
> On May 16, 9:55 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Whisper semen does not contain useful amount of sperms as
>>>>> he lets it out too often in front of Sampras photos.
>>>> On the contrary it's very potent - my daughter is heading for dux of her
>>>> school (1,500 kids) & has been told she is big chance for perfect 100 UAI.
>>> "Dux"?
>> Top student
>
> I inferred that from the context, but what exactly does it mean? Is it
> an abbreviation? In the United States, the top graduating student in a
> high school class is called the "valedictorian"
That's exactly what it is. Didn't know the origin til I just looked it
up in Wiki :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dux
>(because he or she
> gets to give the big speech at the ceremony -- an odd, tail-wagging-
> the-dog sort of coinage), and the student finishing second is the
> "salutatorian."
>>> "UAI"?
>>> Joe Ramirez
>> University Admission Index.
>
> Is that based on academic grades, or on a separate, standardized test?
> In the U.S., colleges and universities typically look at both high
> school grades and the student's score on a test such as the SAT
> (Scholastic Aptitude Test) when deciding whether to accept a student.
> Each school makes its own independent decision.
It's actually based on ranking;
http://www.usyd.edu.au/start/parents/uai.shtml
>
>> Wants to do combined law/communications
>> degree & needs 91,
>
> What a coincidence -- those are my two fields. :) Can you practice
> law in Australia with an undergraduate degree (e.g., an LLB), or is a
> graduate degree required, as it is here? Btw, if you are good you
> typically don't need a degree in communications in order to work in
> that field.
If she wanted to do just law she can afford to get 87. She's very
creative so I'm concerned law will be a bit boring, but she wants to get
ahead quickly & law can be very lucrative.
My cousin is a top lawyer with Baker McKenzie (currently he's in Japan)
- he told her the same thing, boring but money is great (he's a partner
so is doing nicely). The teachers say she can do anything, but law is
probably a good starting point & see where that takes her. She has some
interest in politics.
>
>> but all the teachers expect her to do much better
>> than that, even perfect 100 is a strong possibility. They all describe
>> her as gifted, outstanding, brilliant etc, & she came home yesterday
>> with 5 more awards (top 3 in all subjects). She's very strong in
>> English & is doing advanced & extension courses - the teachers say her
>> work is more advanced than any of the teachers.
>>
>> I was bit concerned about the pressure she might feel, but she's not
>> worried at all - very confident of her abilities.
>>
>> Last yr I promised to buy her a new car if she tops 90 so that's
>> certainly gone.
>
> Never give a smart kid an expensive incentive! :) But she sounds like
> she has a great future ahead of her.
She's a low maintenance kid, never had tutoring etc - I woulda bought
her a car anyway but this way it looks like an incentive scheme. I
don't think it plays a big part anyway, she's just motivated to do her
best. I also said I'd give her $50 bonus for any mark over 90% in
anything (assignments, regular tests etc) & she's hammered me here as
well - constantly leaving latest test marks on my computer & I fork out
yet another $50.
She's always been above average, but I'm surprised she took it up to
these levels in last couple yrs. Pretty lucky with her as she's very
smart & popular with everyone - doesn't drink, smoke & not nerdy.
> This is a fun but challenging
> time of life for both children and their parents. My son graduates
> from high school next month and will start college at the end of
> August. The social aspect of life will demand as great a transition as
> the academic aspect, since he's never lived away from home before.
Yeah, she has a good balance - great circle of friends & a boyfriend.
Not happy about a boyfriend, but can't fight nature. He's a good kid &
wants to be an engineer, & even buys me gifts for b'day etc
>
>> Also a bit concerned about my younger kid who is strictly average
>> (academically) by comparison - might be some inferiority complex issues
>> later on.
>
> The important thing is make sure the younger child doesn't feel
> pressured to excel in exactly the same way as the older one. It's
> vital for the parents to take a keen interest in whatever it is that
> the younger kid enjoys or is good at.
>
Yep, easier said than done. People always make comparisons but still
it's difficult when one gets all the awards/praise in everything & the
other can't hope to match it.
Vari L. Cinicke
Misspelled cricket lingo? Read it with "heading for a duck" and "has a
big chance for perfect 0" and it is Whisperian. Of course, if there is a
real kid involved I would wish great things for the kid outside the home.
--
Cheers,
vc
Whisper
Thanks. She's very much real.
We have some good debates & she holds her own - run rings around most here.
Sakari Lund
wrote:
>Thanks. She's very much real.
>
>We have some good debates & she holds her own - run rings around most here.
What does she think about 7543?
Whisper
She's not obsessed with tennis, but has a good knowledge & healthy
interest - loves Henin (very disappointed with her retirement), Rafa &
Ferrero (huh?). Hates Sharapova.
Sakari Lund
arnab.z@gmail
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 01:46:09 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Sakari Lund wrote:
> >> On Sat, 17 May 2008 01:32:22 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks. She's very much real.
> >>>
> >>> We have some good debates & she holds her own - run rings around most here.
> >>
> >> What does she think about 7543?
> >
> >
> >She's not obsessed with tennis, but has a good knowledge & healthy
> >interest - loves Henin (very disappointed with her retirement), Rafa &
> >Ferrero (huh?). Hates Sharapova.
>
> And Federer?
Everytime she mentions the name, she loses $50. This is how Whimpy
keeps the cash outflow in check.
Joe Ramirez
> If she wanted to do just law she can afford to get 87. She's very
> creative so I'm concerned law will be a bit boring, but she wants to get
> ahead quickly & law can be very lucrative.
>
> My cousin is a top lawyer with Baker McKenzie (currently he's in Japan)
> - he told her the same thing, boring but money is great (he's a partner
> so is doing nicely). The teachers say she can do anything, but law is
> probably a good starting point & see where that takes her. She has some
> interest in politics.
Yes, law is generally boring -- very tedious at times. That's why I
stopped practicing. There's an old saw about the life of an orchestral
wind player's being 90% boredom and 10% sheer terror (i.e., usually
you're sitting around waiting to play, and then you have some tricky,
terribly exposed solo). Practicing law is similar: 90% tedium and 10%
excitement. I enjoyed making arguments in front of appellate courts,
but wading through mounds of dry paperwork to get there was no fun.
It's also true that the money is good -- too good, actually, in terms
of the transaction costs the legal profession imposes on the economy
and the dysfunctional incentives created by attorney compensation. But
those are topics for another day. If your daughter is considering
politics for the long term, law is a perfect profession, because
she'll be able to establish a network of contacts with well-placed and
wealthy people, crucial to political success. Still, you have to sell
at least a bit of your soul to prosper in politics, so watch out.
Joe Ramirez
Whisper
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 01:46:09 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 01:32:22 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks. She's very much real.
>>>>
>>>> We have some good debates & she holds her own - run rings around most here.
>>> What does she think about 7543?
>>
>> She's not obsessed with tennis, but has a good knowledge & healthy
>> interest - loves Henin (very disappointed with her retirement), Rafa &
>> Ferrero (huh?). Hates Sharapova.
>
> And Federer?
Lukewarm.
arnab.z@gmail
> > wrote:
>
> >> Sakari Lund wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 01:32:22 +1000, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> Thanks. She's very much real.
>
> >>>> We have some good debates & she holds her own - run rings around most here.
> >>> What does she think about 7543?
>
> >> She's not obsessed with tennis, but has a good knowledge & healthy
> >> interest - loves Henin (very disappointed with her retirement), Rafa &
> >> Ferrero (huh?). Hates Sharapova.
>
> > And Federer?
>
> Lukewarm.
Even after knowing that you are a big fan of Roger? The kid's not that
smart it seems.
John P
Please, you're starting to sound like the nut who refused to believe
that the twin towers collapsed because of burning jet fuel.
just because you are unable and/or unwilling to understand Henin's
"inexplicable impulse" doesn't make it a mystery.
Joe Ramirez
The difference between a mystery and a conspiracy is that a mystery
exists when something is admittedly unknown and a conspiracy is
posited when everything is claimed to be known.
And you are taking this issue awfully personally, considering you are
just a guy on Usenet and not Henin's long-lost uncle. I suggest you
give RST a break and maybe take a walk around the block. Clear your
head and get past the rabid accusations.
Joe Ramirez
John P
#1 lawyer who has argued about 50 cases before the US Supreme Court and
is respected by most everyone step down at age 41?
sorry, I couldn't resist the Clement angle :-)
John P
"And you are taking this issue awfully personally."
um, no, YOU are the one taking this whole self-styled Henin retirement
mystery WAY too seriously/personally. I said "respect her decision.
wish her well. move on." you, on the the other hand, are dwelling on
it in multiple threads.
BTW, nice try on the mystery/conspiracy semantics, but you are clearly
taking it way too seriously/personally, no matter how you label it.
PS Boston Globe sports writer Bob Ryan said:
"Henin is at peace. Who could possibly have a problem with that?!"
sigh (yes, this is where Joe brightly says "I don't have a problem with
Henin being at peace," but the larger point is made)
DavidW
I thought lawyers were good at Latin.