(OT) Eva Cassidy - Over the Rainbow - Reaction - Better than Judy Garland? Decide for yourself... - YouTube

[*skriptis]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKHuVb34Cw



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Expert in the video is blown away, he cries, he analyses it and also the comments are very positive:

"Judy Garland's performance is iconic and I, like many, both love her and am broken hearted of the struggles she went through. But listening to Eva's, I feel I'm being touched by an angel, leaving me meditatively and tearfully quiet for a long while afterwards. No performance has ever touched my heart and spirit quite like it. Judy (along with it's composer and lyricist) is the source of my love of this song, but Eva took it and went to higher level, for me. Bless them both."



However personally I don't prefer this style of singing. Reminds me of those US anthems at Superbowl, just a lot of screaming, ups and downs, pauses...

I prefer continuous singing so therefore I would have to vote on Judy Garland version.

However it could be that Eva Cassidy does have a better voice and could sing it in other style...the one which I prefer.

[TT]

*skriptis kirjoitti 23.6.2022 klo 10:38:
> However personally I don't prefer this style of singing.

Yeah, seems a bit pretentiously artistic... fake.

Also, starting watching the video, the dude starts crying from the
beginning. I don't why the heck would I want to watch some random dude
overreacting to the song. These 'reaction videos' are a joke, people
usually pretending that they hear the song first time...

Even worse when a professional does that...
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheCharismaticVoice/videos

...She basically pretends that she hears every song for the first time,
no matter how well known it is. Then she shows stupid amazed face
through the performance, while stopping in between for clearly
previously prepared pieces of analysis.

Anyway, here's Cassidy's performance without the 'reaction' nonsense...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rd8VktT8xY

Yes, she can sing, and the rendition feels manufactured to underline
just that. But it's not a talent contest, Garland's version is better.

[Pelle Svanslös]

On 23/06/2022 10.38, *skriptis wrote:
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> Expert in the video is blown away, he cries, he analyses it and also the comments are very positive:
>
> "Judy Garland's performance is iconic and I, like many, both love her and am broken hearted of the struggles she went through. But listening to Eva's, I feel I'm being touched by an angel, leaving me meditatively and tearfully quiet for a long while afterwards. No performance has ever touched my heart and spirit quite like it. Judy (along with it's composer and lyricist) is the source of my love of this song, but Eva took it and went to higher level, for me. Bless them both."
>
>
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> However personally I don't prefer this style of singing.

That's my reaction too. She's an awesome singer but ... I hate the
frasing in

"somewheeere over ... ... ... ... ... the rainbow".

https://youtu.be/6oKHuVb34Cw?t=186

It kind of screws up the natural flow of the original, which is just
fine as it is, TYVM. Changing stuff for the sake of changing, tells me
I'm listening to an Artiste. And there will be more of this. That's
where I bail out.

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[*skriptis]

Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:
> That's my reaction too. She's an awesome singer but ... I hate the frasing in "somewheeere over ... ... ... ... ... the rainbow".https://youtu.be/6oKHuVb34Cw?t=186 It kind of screws up the natural flow of the original, which is just fine as it is, TYVM. Changing stuff for the sake of changing, tells me I'm listening to an Artiste. And there will be more of this. That's where I bail out.


Agreed. I hate pauses.

One of the reasons I hate basketball too, teams taking time-outs when it's most interesting to make it most boring.

[Whisper]

On 23/06/2022 5:23 pm, *skriptis wrote:
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKHuVb34Cw
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Eva's voice makes grown men cry, takes you to another dimension.



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I only discovered Eva by accident about 25 yrs ago when I heard she
covered a Sting song 'fields of gold';

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVjjcOUJLE

Sting said no other singer moved him like she did and this was now her
song. I can't really put any female from any genre above her - goat.

[Whisper]

On 23/06/2022 6:43 pm, TT wrote:
> *skriptis kirjoitti 23.6.2022 klo 10:38:
>> However personally I don't prefer this style of singing.
>
> Yeah, seems a bit pretentiously artistic... fake.

That's funny because she rejected all fakeness that came along with
being a pop star. She was kinda like Steffi Graf, only even more
introverted and hated publicity of any kind. She was one of those rare
genuine artists who had a supreme gift. Lucky we got to hear her at all.

[Whisper]

On 23/06/2022 11:54 pm, Whisper wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 5:38 pm, *skriptis wrote:
>>
>
>
> I only discovered Eva by accident about 25 yrs ago when I heard she
> covered a Sting song 'fields of gold';
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVjjcOUJLE
>
> Sting said no other singer moved him like she did and this was now her
> song. I can't really put any female from any genre above her - goat.
>
>
>
>
>

Read the comments below the link above - every person says they were
moved to tears and nobody sings like her, 16 million views. Many people
only discovered her recently and were stopped in their tracks etc. You
guys can keep thinking she's shit, reflects more on you ; )

She's a freak, like Elvis. Saw the new Elvis movie today - much better
than I expected. Wife wasn't expecting much either but was dancing in
her seat and crying through most of it, gave it 10/10. I give it 8 : )

[LedZep IgaSwanTech]

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:07:29 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 11:54 pm, Whisper wrote:
> > On 23/06/2022 5:38 pm, *skriptis wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> > I only discovered Eva by accident about 25 yrs ago when I heard she
> > covered a Sting song 'fields of gold';
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVjjcOUJLE
> >
> > Sting said no other singer moved him like she did and this was now her
> > song. I can't really put any female from any genre above her - goat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Read the comments below the link above - every person says they were
> moved to tears and nobody sings like her, 16 million views. Many people
> only discovered her recently and were stopped in their tracks etc. You
> guys can keep thinking she's shit, reflects more on you ; )
>

Some "cute cat" videos have gotten 30 millions views as well

[TT]

TT kirjoitti 23.6.2022 klo 11:43:
> Also, starting watching the video, the dude starts crying from the
> beginning. I don't why the heck would I want to watch some random dude
> overreacting to the song. These 'reaction videos' are a joke, people
> usually pretending that they hear the song first time...
>
> Even worse when a professional does that...
> https://www.youtube.com/c/TheCharismaticVoice/videos
>
> ...She basically pretends that she hears every song for the first time,
> no matter how well known it is. Then she shows stupid amazed face
> through the performance, while stopping in between for clearly
> previously prepared pieces of analysis.

Hey Whisp, you might wanna check this out (youtube suggested it for me)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK3kU4_JfaU

It's exactly the vocal coach I was talking about above, now pretending
she heard Eva Cassidy's version for the first time...

[Whisper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-hdocUUEY8

[Sawfish]

On 6/23/22 3:24 AM, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 10.38, *skriptis wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Expert in the video is blown away, he cries, he analyses it and also
>> the comments are very positive:
>>
>> "Judy Garland's performance is iconic and I, like many, both love her
>> and am broken hearted of the struggles she went through.  But
>> listening to Eva's, I feel I'm being touched by an angel, leaving me
>> meditatively and tearfully quiet for a long while afterwards.  No
>> performance has ever touched my heart and spirit quite like it.  
>> Judy (along with it's composer and lyricist) is the source of my love
>> of this song, but Eva took it and went to higher level, for me. 
>> Bless them both."
>>
>>
>>
>> However personally I don't prefer this style of singing.
>
> That's my reaction too. She's an awesome singer but ... I hate the
> frasing in
>
> "somewheeere over ... ... ... ... ... the rainbow".
>
> https://youtu.be/6oKHuVb34Cw?t=186
>
> It kind of screws up the natural flow of the original, which is just
> fine as it is, TYVM. Changing stuff for the sake of changing, tells me
> I'm listening to an Artiste. And there will be more of this. That's
> where I bail out.
>

Musical revisionism...

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[Sawfish]

On 6/23/22 6:49 AM, Whisper wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 5:23 pm, *skriptis wrote:
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKHuVb34Cw
>>
>>
>>
>
> Eva's voice makes grown men cry, takes you to another dimension.
>
>
>

The female voice can cause strange subliminal responses, in males, at least.

One time on the radio I heard a young SE Asian woman singing a sort of
traditional song of her culture, and employing a very odd (to my ear)
technique and vocal range. It made for an instant snapping to attention,
and perhaps if I were 30 years younger I would have beat down the door
to the studio.

It is related to a very odd instinctive response to something my first
wife did.

There is indeed a heart of darkness that's pre-lingual and defies proper
description. If one attempts to deny this, and they honestly believe it,
I'd say that they've either never experience it, or they wish to
distance themselves from it.

But without a doubt, it's there.

Is this akin to the level on which Cassidy communicates? Non-lingual,
really...

[Sawfish]

On 6/26/22 5:08 PM, Sawfish wrote:

On 6/23/22 6:49 AM, Whisper wrote:

On 23/06/2022 5:23 pm, *skriptis wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKHuVb34Cw

Eva's voice makes grown men cry, takes you to another dimension.

The female voice can cause strange subliminal responses, in males, at least.

One time on the radio I heard a young SE Asian woman singing a sort of traditional song of her culture, and employing a very odd (to my ear) technique and vocal range. It made for an instant snapping to attention, and perhaps if I were 30 years younger I would have beat down the door to the studio.

It is related to a very odd instinctive response to something my first wife did.

There is indeed a heart of darkness that's pre-lingual and defies proper description. If one attempts to deny this, and they honestly believe it, I'd say that they've either never experience it, or they wish to distance themselves from it.

But without a doubt, it's there.

Is this akin to the level on which Cassidy communicates? Non-lingual, really...

OK, I watched the link.

Gosh, it's all about the guy making the comment, not really about Cassidy, isn't it? He's a narcissistic metrosexual, clearly.

So far as her rendition, it's not to my taste, but there's no accounting for taste, is there?

Specifically, the phrasing is constructed to display her vocal talents, and the actual message of the lyrics is unclear.

In female vocalists, we're pretty clearly in a "show off" era--probably a necessary result of too many years of American Idol and its ilk. Much of what is admired is a sort of vocal gymnastics, as inspired by black spirituals, I'd suppose. The show of emotion, itself, supersedes the emotional payload of the lyrics, almost to the point that the lyrics may be excellent, but they're delivered in a way that's unintelligible.

So now singing is competitive and no longer communicative. It's like the current crop of pop female vocalist are female body builders...

"Oh! Look at my GLUTES, all greased up and glistening! Aren't they magnificent?

"And my lats! Unnngh! Urgggh!"