Conchita is Gigi's Companion.
Patricia F. Yeary
Fernandez's match against Julie Hallard, after she continued to look to the
stands after every point, the announcer (I don't know who) said something
about Gigi looking to her "companion Conchita Martinez". Did anyone else
see/hear this? Is this just speculation on the announcer's part, or have they
come out publicly with their relationship?
Just curious?
Kris Rothstein
Maybe Mary Jo? Anyway, the look : on Conchita's face when Gigi won said
volumes.
It is Julie Halard who is marrying her coach.
: > Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi :
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Prashant Kulkarni
In article <N.083195....@cust023.nb5p2.boston.ma.ALTERDIAL.ALTER.NET>, mail...@pop.net writes:
> I thought he said Gigi was marrying her coach? Maybe Mary Jo? Anyway, the look
> on Conchita's face when Gigi won said volumes.
>
Gigi's opponent Julie Halard is marrying her coach is what the
commentator said. I also recall his referring to Conchita as Gigi's
"companion".
Margaret C Thomas
: I thought he said Gigi was marrying her coach? Maybe Mary Jo? Anyway, the look
He said Julie Halard is marrying her coach, although, if you ask me,
Gertrude Stein looks femme compared to Halard! I didn't hear him say
Conchita was Gigi's companion. Conchita is out, but I didn't know Gigi
was. If it's true, they make a nice couple.
Gigi was at Conchita's Wimbleton match against Graf (the announcer there
said she was helping to coach Conchita), and Conchita was at
Gigi's Wimbleton mixed doubles final, which she and (I'm drawing a
blank) lost to Martina and Jonathan Stark.
Juan C. Nagel
>Judging by the voice of the commentator, he seemed to be a foreigner. My best
>guess is that wherever he is from the word companion is used to describe a
>good friend. That is just my guess, however.
>
>D.T.
>
Actually, no. Since some time ago, it is known that Conchita and Gigi are a
couple. It's actually been thoroughly discussed in this newsgroup.
I found it amusing that the commentator used the word "companion". It's the
first such reference I've heard from someone calling a women's tennis match. I
recall at Wimbledon, they would always choke up when the camera showed Conchita
in Gigi's matches and vice versa. They'd say they were... uhum... good friends.
Juan.
mail...@pop.net
on Conchita's face when Gigi won said volumes.
> Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi
dar
: I thought he said Gigi was marrying her coach?
> Maybe Mary Jo? Anyway, the look : on Conchita's face when Gigi won said
> volumes.
> : > Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi :
> > Fernandez's match against Julie Hallard, after she continued to look to
> the : > stands after every point, the announcer (I don't know who) said
> something : > about Gigi looking to her "companion Conchita Martinez".
> Did anyone else : > see/hear this? Is this just speculation on the
> announcer's part, or have they : > come out publicly with their
> relationship? : > : > : > Just curious?
kr...@unixg.ubc.ca (Kris Rothstein) wrote:
> It is Julie Halard who is marrying her coach.
Julie Halard is marrying Gigi Fernandez` coach?
dar
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>Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi
>Fernandez's match against Julie Hallard, after she continued to look to the
>stands after every point, the announcer (I don't know who) said something
>about Gigi looking to her "companion Conchita Martinez". Did anyone else
>see/hear this? Is this just speculation on the announcer's part, or have they
>come out publicly with their relationship?
>
>
>Just curious?
>
Whether they decided to come out or not, it's pretty OBVIOUS about their
relationship.
Carrie Johnson
oh well...
I too heard him say companion and it is no surprise to me. Someone here
said that Conchita is "out"...I had heard no such thing....can anyone
etll me where to confirm this.
Whether they are out or not or whther they are lovers or not I am glad to
see them showing so much support for one another. THey go to each
other's each and every match and I think that's incredible. THey are
both on tour and have a lot of stress of their own yet they make it to
every match. If they are lovers they don' seem to care what the media
says (just my impression as a lesbian tennis fan) and if they aren't they
still support one another ten-fold even with the rumors that fly about
and I think that that is a wonderful show of support for one another.
Wish I could tell them that *smirk* .
Anyway, the announcer did say companion and at first it did not catch me
off guard until I remembered that usually the media refer to them as
"good good friend" of one another.
tata,
Carrie
Asim Omair
>I thought he said Gigi was marrying her coach? Maybe Mary Jo? Anyway, the look
>on Conchita's face when Gigi won said volumes.
He said that Hallard (not Gigi) was going to marry her coach.
>> Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi
>> Fernandez's match against Julie Hallard, after she continued to look to the
>> stands after every point, the announcer (I don't know who) said something
>> about Gigi looking to her "companion Conchita Martinez". Did anyone else
>> see/hear this? Is this just speculation on the announcer's part, or have they
>> come out publicly with their relationship?
>> Just curious?
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Margaret C Thomas
1992) about the women's tour written by a reporter/freelancer who
covers it. Unfortunately, I forget the author's name. He wrote that
Conchita (and this was earlier in her career, before she won Wimbleton
and before she was ranked so high) was openly physically affectionate
with her then-girlfriend (he mentioned no names) while watching matches
on the TV in the players' lounge, lots of other players present. Of
course, being "out" is a matter of definition, and being out on the
insular tour vs. to a wider public are different things, but from his
comments I assumed that Conchita was completely comfortable with being
open about a relationship with another woman.
However, I didn't know that Gigi was lesbian, and seeing their friendship
I had indulged in wishful thinking, "oh, this is great, here are
two women supporting each other's careers, maybe doubles expert
gigi has pointers for conchita, maybe conchita can help giga
advance her singles play, they both seem relaxed and like the love the game
(vs. some kids who are pushed by their parents into it), and isn't it
great that a straight woman can be friends with a lesbian without
thinking that she wants her." oh, well...
anyway, i completely agree with your comments, carrie. it's also good to
see two straight gals (Davenport and M.J. Fernandez) supporting each
other on the tour. I got the feeling from this book that, at least a few
years ago, the women tended to keep to themselves, only coaches and
hitting partners accompanying them--no
friends, no family--and most boyfriends and husbands (with the exception
of Judith Wiesner's husband, who is an older guy and who feels it's
important to be there for her) can't afford or
don't want to follow them around on tour--not a healthy environment.
chao,
megan
Mike Ma
(Margaret C Thomas) wrote:
> However, I didn't know that Gigi was lesbian, and seeing their friendship
> I had indulged in wishful thinking,\
Gigi Fernandez was at the 1993 Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Transgender March on
Washington. Not proof that she is a lesbian, but certainly means she is
"gay-friendly". Martina spoke there of course. BTW, when Gigi was an up
and coming player, it was Martina who first brought notice to her tennis
talents. Mike
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WGoose
> I also think Mercer is a brilliant commentator. I didn't know that he
> also covered matches for US TV stations, he's the anchorman for tennis
> commentary on the EuroSport network, here in Europe.
David Mercer is excellent -- unfortunately, the USA network has him
languishing on the outer courts giving sound-bite-size recaps of the
action. If the USA network had any brains they would float Ted Robinson
and bring Mercer up to the #1 crew.
[Excuse me.....any mention of the "USA network" and "brains" in the same
sentence was entirely coincidental.]
Glenn Stone
wgo...@aol.com
Photopro19
look butch but is she ever straight!!! In Toronto, during the Canadian
Open, she certainly showed just how straight she was & she needed to take
it to her room instead of doing "it" in front of strangers in the
elevator...
Just my little observation!
Kirk Leach
>Anne Knowles wrote:
>: I thought he said Gigi was marrying her coach? Maybe Mary Jo? Anyway,
the
>look
>: on Conchita's face when Gigi won said volumes.
>
>He said Julie Halard is marrying her coach, although, if you ask me,
Gertrude
>Stein looks femme compared to Halard! I didn't hear him say Conchita was
>Gigi's companion. Conchita is out, but I didn't know Gigi was. If it's
true,
>they make a nice couple.
>Gigi was at Conchita's Wimbleton match against Graf (the announcer there
said
>she was helping to coach Conchita), and Conchita was at Gigi's Wimbleton
mixed
>doubles final, which she and (I'm drawing a blank) lost to Martina and
Jonathan
>Stark.
>
I thought it was the other way around - Gigi is out, Conchita not (yet).
Margaret C Thomas
: I thought it was the other way around - Gigi is out, Conchita not (yet).
Believe you're right--I stand corrected, according to most of these posts.
megan
Bret Hillier
yea...@postsmg.daytonoh.attgis.com (YEARYP) wrote:
> Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi
> Fernandez's match against Julie Hallard, after she continued to look to the
> stands after every point, the announcer (I don't know who) said something
> about Gigi looking to her "companion Conchita Martinez". Did anyone else
> see/hear this? Is this just speculation on the announcer's part, or have they
> come out publicly with their relationship?
>
>
> Just curious?
can't somone be a companion and not a lesbian?
Juhani Reissell
>I thought it was the other way around - Gigi is out, Conchita not (yet).
Confused? You won't be after the next episode of ... R.S.T.
jussi
hescoppp
>
>Gigi lost the mix doubles last night. Every time the tv camara showed
Conchita the Tv Comentators said nothing. Tracy Austin does not how to
handle the situation.
Hernando
Juhani Reissell
Apart from not making any sense of what you're trying to say, hescopppp,
you are attributing stuff to my keyboard that never came out of it. So,
please be careful with the credits.
jussi
vlady
>Was anyone watching USA's coverage of the open last night. In Gigi
>Fernandez's match against Julie Hallard, after she continued to look to the
>stands after every point, the announcer (I don't know who) said something
>about Gigi looking to her "companion Conchita Martinez". Did anyone else
>see/hear this? Is this just speculation on the announcer's part, or have they
>come out publicly with their relationship?
>Just curious?
What the hell do you mean? I believe Gigi and Conchita share the same
coach, therefore, they are around together. Some people.
--------> OS/2 Warp!
vlady
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Bill Walsh
LESBIAN LOVERS. (Not that there's anything
wrong with that.) They make NO SECRET of it.
EVERYBODY knows this. Sheesh.
Daphnesmit
when they refer to Martinez/Fernandez as "good friends". They frequently
include tidbits about the star players' personal lives and this is
apparently no exception. An earlier respondent mentioned a book on women's
tennis that talked about Martinez 's public behavior with another
female. The book is entitled "Ladies of the Court" by (? John Feinstein)
and it is a doozie! You will find references to the above players listed
by
page number in the index. A recent article in TENNIS MATCH magazine,
Sept/Oct 1995 has a lovely article on Gigi Fernandez. Read it. I think you
will get the picture.
Happy Hitting,
Smitty
Darryl
(Daphnesmit) wrote:
> A recent article in TENNIS MATCH magazine,
> Sept/Oct 1995 has a lovely article on Gigi Fernandez. Read it. I think you
> will get the picture.
What?! Are they still publishing that rag? I saw a copy at a Sports Town
about a year and a half ago, thought ``Ooooh, a new tennis mag with nifty
pictures,`` snitched a subscription card, and sent it off (I will
subscribe to just about any tennis publication out there).
In a few weeks I received my first issue and a bill, which I paid
promptly. In a few more weeks, I received another copy of the same issue I
had already received, then ... nothing. Months go by. I finally get around
to mailing off a curt letter of complaint and a copy of my canceled check.
I soon thereafter receive another copy of the magazine. Then ... nothing.
Months go by. I never seem the magazine on the newsstands again. I assume
it has gone out of business.
So now I stick with old stand-bys TENNIS (which also sends me duplicate
copies for some inexplicable reason so it bores me to tears twice as often
as it should) and TENNIS WEEK (which despite its name is really intended
to be a bi-weekly and which arrives on a schedule set perhaps in
coordination with some ancient Mayan agricultural calendar but which has
no bearing with any 14-day notion of 2 weeks that I am familiar with.)
Net resources are quickly rendering all of the above obsolete, and I am
looking forward to the day when I can either let my subscriptions lapse or
the publishers snap to their collective senses and start putting out an
entertaining, informative, attractive publication *on time*.
grrrr...
dar
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Atlanta, GA
You have to be taught to hate and fear,
It has to be taught from year to year,
It has to be drummed in your dear little ear,
You have to be carefully taught.
You have to be carefully taught.
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Daphnesmit
> TENNIS MATCH ... are they still publishing that rag ?
It sounds like you are in desperate need of online magazines about tennis!
There was a recent posting about the availability of tennis magazine on
microsoft network WINDOWS'95. There is someone @msn.com who is in
charge of online magazines. They have also announced a web page coming
out in January '95 and plans for online chats.
If you are a tennis purist then don't read the next sentence.
{Nick bolleteri of 1800USANICK fame and the jensen brothers will be the
featured guests on the first online chats}
The nice thing about online magazines is that they do come out on time.
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"Then our age was in its prime,
Free from rage, and free from crime;
A very merry, dancing, drinking, laughing, quaffing, and unthinking time."
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Tomi Koivusaari
: Actually I believe the TV announcers are trying to be tactful (tasteful?)
: when they refer to Martinez/Fernandez as "good friends". They frequently
: include tidbits about the star players' personal lives and this is
: apparently no exception. An earlier respondent mentioned a book on women's
: tennis that talked about Martinez 's public behavior with another
: female. The book is entitled "Ladies of the Court" by (? John Feinstein)
: and it is a doozie! You will find references to the above players listed
: by
: Sept/Oct 1995 has a lovely article on Gigi Fernandez. Read it. I think you
: will get the picture.
So if Gigi goes that way, does that make Natasha Zvereva a lesbian too? (or
bi), they've been playing double togheter for so long, plus stuff like her
celebration after they won the US Open (flexing biceps muscle... etc)
YvonMI
(or
> bi), they've been playing double togheter for so long, plus stuff like
her
> celebration after they won the US Open (flexing biceps muscle... etc)
Are we to understand by this that lesbianism rubs off? Or that you have
to be a lesbian (or bi) to be female and hang out with a lesbian? Or that
only a lesbian would flex her non-muscles on national TV?........
Hmmmmm....
By all accounts Zvereva is straight; indeed USA showed her kissing her
boyfriend after the US Open doubles final. (He is a tennis player, and
had sat beside Martinez during the match.) Zvereva is a very strong,
independent woman, who obviously feels confident enough about her
sexuality to not feel threatened hanging out with people of different
persuasions. And she plays damn good tennis to boot.
Melanie Joyner
: Daphnesmit (daphn...@aol.com) wrote:
(quote regarding media reports on Gigi's and Conchita's sexuality deleted)
:So if Gigi goes that way, does that make Natasha Zvereva a lesbian too? (or
:bi), they've been playing double togheter for so long, plus stuff like her
:celebration after they won the US Open (flexing biceps muscle...
etc)
Oh please! Just because someone (a) likes to mug for the camera and
entertain the crowd, and (b) happens to have the good sense to play
doubles with Gigi Fernandez, that does not mean that one is gay, or
straight, or asexual, or anything else! First of all, since when did
flexing a bicep for a camera have anything to do with sexuality?
Second, the last time I checked, one of the criteria for selecting a
partner to play doubles with was not "sexual orientation".
I'd use the term "guilt by association" to explain the logic behind
the above post, except that I object to the use of the term "guilt"
when discussing sexual orientation. On the USA Today broadcast of
the Women's Doubles final, Tracy Austin stated that Zvereva was
"spending time with" Scott Davis, who was sitting with Conchita and
Zvereva's coach. If we use the same logic outlined above, then surely
Gigi is not a lesbian because she is playing with a doubles player who
is not a lesbian! The fact is, one's sexuality have NOTHING to do
with one's ability to play tennis. Some great tennis players -
Martina Navratilova and Bill Tilden come to mind here - happen to
be/have been gay; others - Chris Evert and John McEnroe are/were
straight. By the way, Martina and Chris played doubles for a while.
Does that tell us anything at all about their sexuality?
Sorry for ranting
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