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Pelle Svanslös

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Apr 11, 2018, 6:10:22 AM4/11/18
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BEIRUT (Reuters) - Russia’s ambassador to Lebanon said any U.S. missiles
fired at Syria would be shot down and the launch sites targeted, a step
that could trigger a major escalation in the Syrian war.

Russian Ambassador Alexander Zasypkin, in comments broadcast on Tuesday
evening, said he was referring to a statement by Russian President
Vladimir Putin and the Russian armed forces chief of staff.

The Russian military said on March 13 that it would respond to any U.S.
strike on Syria, targeting any missiles and launchers involved in such
an attack. Russia is Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s most powerful ally.

The United States and its allies are considering whether to hit Syria
over a suspected poison gas attack that medical relief organizations say
killed dozens of people in the rebel-held town of Douma near Damascus on
Saturday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-diplomat/russian-envoy-to-lebanon-any-u-s-missiles-fired-at-syria-will-be-shot-down-idUSKBN1HI0PU

A game of chicken! Fire, fury ... or nothingburgers?

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PeteWasLucky

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Apr 11, 2018, 10:19:54 AM4/11/18
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Trump said he will fire, now he has to fire, right?

But based on Icey only Hillary and Obama fires.


But wouldn't be interesting if Trump retreats and doesn't fire? :)

joh

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Apr 11, 2018, 12:12:32 PM4/11/18
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He'll fire Mueller

jdeluise

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Apr 11, 2018, 12:29:02 PM4/11/18
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Trump loves giving his strategy to the enemy almost as much as he loves
golfing. bob must be proud.

*skriptis

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Apr 11, 2018, 12:56:43 PM4/11/18
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jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
Why are you such a troll?

It was macho talk similar to last year's messages and exchange of
insults and threats with Kim Jong-un, fire and fury, dotard,
etc.


The thing is this, it was Russia who first insinuated that they
will shoot at the Americans. They started this exchange.


It doesn't matter that they're right in this whole mess. And they
very much are.
E.g. there's still no proof gas attack even happened, let alone
that Assad did it.
Assad is also a legitimate president of a sovereign country that
is an U.N. member. Russia is helping them fight terrorists, and
Russia is there legally, being invited by the legitimate
government, while USA isn't.

So, Russia is way way right, neocons that push Trump aren't. But
it was still Russians who first mentioned the possibility of
Americans and Russians shooting at each other, so it's logical
that Trump responds the way he did.

It's basically testing each other how serious are they with
everything.

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jdeluise

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Apr 11, 2018, 8:54:15 PM4/11/18
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:56:41 +0200, *skriptis wrote:

> Why are you such a troll?
>
> It was macho talk similar to last year's messages and exchange of
> insults and threats with Kim Jong-un, fire and fury, dotard,
> etc.

Didn't Trump immediately announce that the chemical attacks were real?
Seems that provoked much of the Russian response, no? You'll blame
neocons of course...

jdeluise

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Apr 11, 2018, 9:17:42 PM4/11/18
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At any rate *skriptis, who said the following?

Why do we keep broadcasting when we are going to attack Syria. Why
can't we just be quiet and, if we attack at all, catch them by surprise?

Or

What other country tells the enemy when we are going to attack
like Obama is doing with ISIS. Whatever happened to the element of
surprise?

*skriptis

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Apr 12, 2018, 6:37:36 PM4/12/18
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jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
Hm. First of all, I always get the feeling you're a subversive
troll for asking weird questions.

As if there are any other bad guys today in the world, other than
the neocons?

It's a ridiculous question in the first place. If you haven't, why
don't you get yourself familiar with the tenants of their
ideology, their actions over the years and consequences of their
actions and judge for yourself?

There's no other negative force in today's world comparable in
power. That's for sure.

So yeah, it's their fault of course.


However Trump once again showed his genius. I'm not even sure, and
I don't care if he's some strategic genius playing
multidimensional chess, like his fans claim, or is led by God, or
is simply a man with fantastic gut instinct, sensing the pulse of
the people, what's important is that he does good things.



Now look. Tucker Carlson asked couple of simple questions.
1. Do we know gas attack even happened?
2. Do we know Assad did it?
3. If he or someone else did it, how would attacking him or
others, make things better, both there and for the America
itself. It sure didn't work out well in Iraq and Libya.


And he was accused of being a Kremlin stooge. Which is hilarious,
and tragic at the same time.


How do you expect Trump to react in the same or similar manner
with all the Russia hoax nonsense, his lawyers being raided etc.
He would have been undermined even more. He can't fight million
fights. So of course he'd go by the mainstream neocon
warmongering narrative pushed by the CNN, msnbc and other
animals.

He's under attack by the neocons but he's smarter and more cunning
than they are. He made and continues to make fools of them.


He follows Tucker on Twitter. Tucker is the voice of reason, and
he even read some of the Trump's past tweets on similar issues
and Syrian question. So the "real" Trump's, or simply, real
Trumpian message was pretty much out and heard the other day.



What neocons want is a quick blame on Assad and war, without many
questions asked.

Trump didn't do that, instead, in a reality tv show manner, he
verbally escalated stuff to the utmost extreme, saying that which
neocons want to do, instead of actually doing it.

By playing by the script, not deviating from it, he neutralized
them, but expressing everything in a overblown way, threatening
Russia, he sent shockwaves and draw attention to it, and most
importantly empowered and energized the anti-warmongering public
which Tucker catered to.
Sure he got lot of bad PR himself, as at first, it seems it was
him who pushed it, but in reality, it was a fantastic
counterpunch and a way to undermine gas hoax.


Either that, or it's all just a coincidence.

bob

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Apr 12, 2018, 7:48:40 PM4/12/18
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trump often says a strategy, then doesn't do it. makes him kind of
unpredictable.

i rather liked his 1st syrian strike: a sea to surface missile with a
warning, that had very few casualties, but let them know we won't do
"nothing."

bob

jdeluise

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Apr 12, 2018, 8:31:51 PM4/12/18
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:48:39 -0400, bob wrote:

> i rather liked his 1st syrian strike: a sea to surface missile with a
> warning, that had very few casualties, but let them know we won't do
> "nothing."

Of course, he told the Russians before they did it....

Pelle Svanslös

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Apr 13, 2018, 4:16:36 AM4/13/18
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On 13/04/2018 2.48, bob wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:29:01 GMT, jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:19:52 -0700, PeteWasLucky wrote:
>>
>>> Trump said he will fire, now he has to fire, right?
>>>
>>> But based on Icey only Hillary and Obama fires.
>>>
>>>
>>> But wouldn't be interesting if Trump retreats and doesn't fire? :)
>>
>> Trump loves giving his strategy to the enemy almost as much as he loves
>> golfing. bob must be proud.
>
> trump often says a strategy, then doesn't do it. makes him kind of
> unpredictable.

Doing one thing, then not doing it makes him somebody without a strategy.

> i rather liked his 1st syrian strike: a sea to surface missile with a
> warning, that had very few casualties, but let them know we won't do
> "nothing."

So what did he achieve with it?

bob

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Apr 13, 2018, 7:22:48 PM4/13/18
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:16:34 +0300, Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los>
wrote:

>On 13/04/2018 2.48, bob wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:29:01 GMT, jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:19:52 -0700, PeteWasLucky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trump said he will fire, now he has to fire, right?
>>>>
>>>> But based on Icey only Hillary and Obama fires.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But wouldn't be interesting if Trump retreats and doesn't fire? :)
>>>
>>> Trump loves giving his strategy to the enemy almost as much as he loves
>>> golfing. bob must be proud.
>>
>> trump often says a strategy, then doesn't do it. makes him kind of
>> unpredictable.
>
>Doing one thing, then not doing it makes him somebody without a strategy.

your pt?

>> i rather liked his 1st syrian strike: a sea to surface missile with a
>> warning, that had very few casualties, but let them know we won't do
>> "nothing."
>
>So what did he achieve with it?

not sure. putin seems to be pretty strong atm.

how are things with you finns and swedes btw?

bob

jdeluise

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Apr 13, 2018, 9:07:38 PM4/13/18
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:22:47 -0400, bob wrote:

>>Doing one thing, then not doing it makes him somebody without a
>>strategy.
>
> your pt?

Welp, looks like he launched the attacks as he said he would... whatever

*skriptis

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Apr 13, 2018, 10:27:35 PM4/13/18
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jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
We're all surprised.

jdeluise

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Apr 14, 2018, 12:25:49 AM4/14/18
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:27:34 +0200, *skriptis wrote:

> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:22:47 -0400, bob wrote:
>>
>>>>Doing one thing, then not doing it makes him somebody without a
>>>>strategy.
>>>
>>> your pt?
>>
>> Welp, looks like he launched the attacks as he said he would...
>> whatever happened to the element of surprise?
>
>
> We're all surprised.

Really?

Sadly this was likely intended to be a distraction from Trump's legal
dilemmas from, you know, Michael "Coffee Boy" Cohen.

In other news, Trump pardoned prominent neocon "Scooter" Libby.

lol

The Iceberg

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Apr 14, 2018, 4:32:25 AM4/14/18
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On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:27:35 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:22:47 -0400, bob wrote:
> >
> >>>Doing one thing, then not doing it makes him somebody without a
> >>>strategy.
> >>
> >> your pt?
> >
> > Welp, looks like he launched the attacks as he said he would... whatever
> > happened to the element of surprise?
>
>
> We're all surprised.

I not that surprised, he generally a real man of action + he said he was going to do something and he could either back out and look like Obama or do something - either way wouldn't have mattered, but he must've weighed up things and went ahead.

The Iceberg

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Apr 14, 2018, 4:35:28 AM4/14/18
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oh no jd, are you another conspiracy nut too? good he pardoned Libby.

Calimero

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Apr 14, 2018, 5:02:24 AM4/14/18
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„Very few casualties“ won‘t deter Assad from using chemical weapons again.


Max

Calimero

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Apr 14, 2018, 5:03:36 AM4/14/18
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Yes, especially the Russian stock market.


Max

bob

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Apr 14, 2018, 8:21:33 AM4/14/18
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:27:34 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
<skri...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:

>jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:22:47 -0400, bob wrote:
>>
>>>>Doing one thing, then not doing it makes him somebody without a
>>>>strategy.
>>>
>>> your pt?
>>
>> Welp, looks like he launched the attacks as he said he would... whatever
>> happened to the element of surprise?
>
>
>We're all surprised.

i'm not surprised becaue he painted himself in a corner, he put
himself in a position that forced it. i'm very disappointed
personally.

bob

bob

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Apr 14, 2018, 8:23:59 AM4/14/18
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since 2010 up about double.

bob

bob

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Apr 14, 2018, 8:24:48 AM4/14/18
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you're sure he used them?

bob

Calimero

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Apr 14, 2018, 11:20:41 AM4/14/18
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Russia‘s most important stock index, the RTS, was at 1.770 at the end of 2010 and is at 1.104 now.

https://www.boerse.de/historische-kurse/RTS/RU000A0JPEB3

Bob a liar, like his Führer.



Max

Calimero

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Apr 14, 2018, 11:23:26 AM4/14/18
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You think the victims gassed themselves to smear your buddies?


Max

bob

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Apr 14, 2018, 6:29:11 PM4/14/18
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 08:23:24 -0700 (PDT), Calimero
not sure.

bob

Calimero

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Apr 14, 2018, 7:45:55 PM4/14/18
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You are a coward, plain and simple.
Not willing to defend your values. Since you don't have any.


Max



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bob

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Apr 15, 2018, 8:45:05 AM4/15/18
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:45:53 -0700 (PDT), Calimero
key word is defend. we need no defense aginst syria.

how are the syrians doing in germany btw, i love seeing them flock
there by the millions, it brings me great joy!

bob

Calimero

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Apr 15, 2018, 2:12:23 PM4/15/18
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Sadly for you net immigration in 2017 from Syria was only 61,000 (260,000 in 2016).

No, you won't read that on Breitbart, son ...

bob

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Apr 15, 2018, 8:42:42 PM4/15/18
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT), Calimero
61k? that's IT? i thought you loved them and were taking them in by
the millions? it's all another german lie? damn, they way you germans
carry on about how much you're doing for them...laughable.

>No, you won't read that on Breitbart, son ...

bob

Calimero

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Apr 19, 2018, 2:58:08 PM4/19/18
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No, it was a Bob-Breitbart lie.


> damn, they way you germans
> carry on about how much you're doing for them...laughable.
>

Carry on about?


Max

bob

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Apr 21, 2018, 7:16:57 PM4/21/18
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:58:07 -0700 (PDT), Calimero
that's right.

bob
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