An open offer to all trolls, Fedhaters and ne'er-do-wells....
felangey
You are all convinced that Nadal wins in straights....put some action where
your mouth is. If Fed wins on Sunday, you - along with all your socks -
leave the group for good. If anyone takes up the offer, I will in turn,
leave forthwith never to return should Fed lose. Man enough to step up?
Reply 'I'm in' if you have the courage of your conviction.
Raja, The Great
If Fed wins, I will never call Lendl as greatest in modern era again.
That's a promise I won't break. If Fed loses he is still behind Lendl
and Borg in my book
Paul
BULLSHIT!! YOU'LL JUST COME BACK
UNDER A NEW NAME!!!!
GET REAL!!!
undecided
If Fed wins 2011 FO I promise that Raja will stop posting lists.
Raja, The Great
I won't
felangey
You already promised that, remember. Then reneged.
felangey
TT-andhisinfinitesocks/Whisper-bobskriptis/Fan.....all mouth it seems.
Gracchus
Good idea, but:
1. RSTs resident trolls won't understand that Federer fans live by a
code of honor, and lacking trust, won't agree to your offer.
2. Any who DO take up the offer have no such code of honor, and thus
cannot be expected to meet their obligations should events go against
them.
bob
wrote:
i'm not convinced rafa will win in straights, in whisp's thread i put
it at 2/3 chance rafa wins at all, and most likely chance he wins in
4.
and should fed lose, you lie - you won't leave.
bob
felangey
Nope....if TTandsocks or Whisperbobskriptis take me up on it....I will
honour it until the ends of the earth. :)
Osama Bin Ladetorest
> >I won't<
>
> You already promised that, remember. Then reneged.
The list is in my blood. It speaks to me.
Fan
This is a stupid offer. RST is for discussing the players. If Federer
were to win tomorrow, I would continue to question his character. I
have no issue with his records. He has 16 slams and that is more than
what anyone else has. You have to give him credit for that but it does
not mean that you have to excuse him his pitiful conduct when he loses
and the way he talks about his opponents.
It is not either this or that and having achieved in one-area gives
him no pass pm other areas. Even if he were to win tomorrow, his h2h
with Nadal would be still pitiful. There is no one answer...
You should stick around even if Federer loses, even more so :)
Manco
Must post lists.... MUST post lists..... Raja needs a list like a meth
addict needs his next fix...
Gracchus
On Jun 4, 10:45 pm, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is a stupid offer. RST is for discussing the players. If Federer
> were to win tomorrow, I would continue to question his character. I
> have no issue with his records. He has 16 slams and that is more than
> what anyone else has. You have to give him credit for that but it does
> not mean that you have to excuse him his pitiful conduct when he loses
> and the way he talks about his opponents.
Maybe a better idea than you leaving RST if you lose the wager is for
you to relinquish your anonymity. Then when you slander Roger, his
lawyers will be knocking on your front door the following morning.
When you try to escape out the back door, the JDL will be waiting for
you. :)
TT
What's the point...
If you want to leave after Federer losing, then please do...and face our
disgust when you come back from cowardly leave...
:)
I certainly don't hate you so much that I'd make this sort of silly bet,
with unfavourable odds for you as well. There's always filter option for
annoying posters.
But you can bet that Vari resurfaces if Fed were to win...
felangey
Like I surmised....you are not as sure as you make out that Nadal will win.
:)
Fan
I NEVER slandered Federer or anyone but the terrorist JDL has
Fan
He is so lame. What is the use of having a list if we do not argue
about the players? There are fan clubs for the players and if you go
there, you read only what you want to read. These fan clubs are boring
because saying 1000 times how wonderful your hero is gets boring even
for insane fans.
These clowns make a big noise about leaving are back in a day or two.
No problem, it is their business if they want to make asses out of
themselves.
felangey
about the players?<
I would like to think to discuss the game...the players games. Not having a
list to discuss psychotic FANtasy....issue racist remarks....or generally
act vulgar in a way that you wouldn't consider in public.
I would miss the group...but seeing as their is so much bullshit being
bluffed....I thought I would offer a chance for some to put their rst
presence where their considerably sized cyber-mouths are....on the offchance
I could do the decent folks here a favour. Gracchus is unfortunately
correct...these types are unlikely to have the honour to fulfill such an
agreement....
bob
wrote:
why should we risk offering to leave RST on the chance that rafa turns
an ankle tomorrow?
bob
Whisper
Only if you tell us your other socks. 'felangey' is a recent
incarnation no? Why would anyone make a wager with some 'new' random
poster?
Whisper
> I was really hoping to attract the attention of
> TT-andhisinfinitesocks/Whisper-bobskriptis/Fan.....all mouth it seems.
You do realize I give Fed 10% chance of winning right?
Do you know what 10% means?
Whisper
You seem to be quite passionate about this?
Are you saying Fed is fave for the match now at nearly age 30, despite
their last 4 matches at FO?
Whisper
I think the issue is I'm not that emotionally invested in the result, as
you seem to be. I've already said on 1 level it would be great if Fed
were to win, as it would redress many shortcomings. I always give
credit where it's due. I know you want me to be impressed & give full
credit for his many wins v Ljubo/Blake types, but I've given him the
credit that deserves.
Whisper
What if we don't feel strongly about the result, as you do?
It's not a crime to give Fed 10% chance of winning this match. It is
the FO & it is Rafa - seems perfectly reasonable.
Are you on meds?
Whisper
I give Fed 10% chance of winning, you give him 30 - wonder what felangey
gives? 99% by the tone of this thread?
felangey
Not in the least.....who needs to go dishing out precentages? If Fed wins
tomorrow....of what worth your 10%? Heehaw, that's what.
I am looking forward to a great match from two great players in unique
conditions and circumstance. Either could win.
felangey
> their last 4 matches at FO?<
Of course not....Nadal is favourite for the match. Do you even know what
"favourite" means?
felangey
From you? We won't know that until after the match. Then again next week
when you change your story. Then again the next week. That's how you roll.
*skriptis
"Raja, The Great" <zepf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4bdaca55-66a4-4fad...@h7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 8:32 am, "felangey" <o...@cloudnine.com> wrote:
> ....how about a friendly wager.
>
> You are all convinced that Nadal wins in straights....put some action
> where
> your mouth is. If Fed wins on Sunday, you - along with all your socks -
> leave the group for good. If anyone takes up the offer, I will in turn,
> leave forthwith never to return should Fed lose. Man enough to step up?
> Reply 'I'm in' if you have the courage of your conviction.
>If Fed wins, I will never call Lendl as greatest in modern era again.
>That's a promise I won't break. If Fed loses he is still behind Lendl
>and Borg in my book
Borg was beaten heavilly during his peak, so no BOAT argument.
He never won USO, even though it was held 3 times on clay, his best sruface.
grass, hc, clay...he just never did it.
didn't dominate #1, or yec. doesn't have most slams.
only 59 pts in 7543.
Federer is greater than Borg.
*skriptis
"felangey" <o...@cloudnine.com> wrote in message
news:94uso6...@mid.individual.net...
>I was really hoping to attract the attention of
>TT-andhisinfinitesocks/Whisper-bobskriptis/Fan.....all mouth it seems.
so you admit you're a troll?
*skriptis
Osama Bin Ladetorest
You might think he is an asshole, but so were McEnroe and Connors.
They were still great.
Osama Bin Ladetorest
> "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:4bdaca55-66a4-4fad...@h7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 4, 8:32 am, "felangey" <o...@cloudnine.com> wrote:
>
> > ....how about a friendly wager.
>
> > You are all convinced that Nadal wins in straights....put some action
> > where
> > your mouth is. If Fed wins on Sunday, you - along with all your socks -
> > leave the group for good. If anyone takes up the offer, I will in turn,
> > leave forthwith never to return should Fed lose. Man enough to step up?
> > Reply 'I'm in' if you have the courage of your conviction.
> >If Fed wins, I will never call Lendl as greatest in modern era again.
> >That's a promise I won't break. If Fed loses he is still behind Lendl
> >and Borg in my book
>
> Borg was beaten heavilly during his peak, so no BOAT argument.
By whom?
> He never won USO, even though it was held 3 times on clay, his best sruface.
Green clay is closer to hard courts than you think.
> grass, hc, clay...he just never did it.
> didn't dominate #1, or yec. doesn't have most slams.
> only 59 pts in 7543.
>
> Federer is greater than Borg.
I consider Wilander > Sampras. So I have different way of looking at
it. Lets agree to disagree.
Patrick Kehoe
You have said many times Roger Federer 'abused' ball boys, paid off
lines people at the 2008 USO, has affairs with 'hot, young male
lefties training in Dubai', etc... you are not alone but you have made
those comments, and more, repeatedly... unsubstanciated malicious
assertions are slanderous...
:))))))
P
Patrick Kehoe
Trouble is that no one would honour such a 'bet'... though you make a
great point... many who fixate on Rafa alone don't seem so sure right
now... if I was a Hopps participant, which I never have been, I would
have picked Djokovic to win the tournament... certainly, I would now
be happy to have been totally wrong... I did believe that Nole would
edge past Feds in 5 sets... again, I'm thrilled to be incorrect... the
final looks like a real toss up... Feds LOVES these balls and is
serving bullets with them... which is a real leveller...
P
TT
> On Jun 4, 9:41 am, Fan<Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 4, 6:14 pm, Gracchus<cernunn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 4, 10:45 pm, Fan<Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> This is a stupid offer. RST is for discussing the players. If Federer
>>>> were to win tomorrow, I would continue to question his character. I
>>>> have no issue with his records. He has 16 slams and that is more than
>>>> what anyone else has. You have to give him credit for that but it does
>>>> not mean that you have to excuse him his pitiful conduct when he loses
>>>> and the way he talks about his opponents.
>>
>>> Maybe a better idea than you leaving RST if you lose the wager is for
>>> you to relinquish your anonymity. Then when you slander Roger, his
>>> lawyers will be knocking on your front door the following morning.
>>> When you try to escape out the back door, the JDL will be waiting for
>>> you. :)
>>
>> I NEVER slandered Federer or anyone but the terrorist JDL has
>
> You have said many times Roger Federer 'abused' ball boys, paid off
> lines people at the 2008 USO, has affairs with 'hot, young male
> lefties training in Dubai',
Hey, that's my line!!!
...Young, cute, sweaty lefties - and ready to please! Disgusting!
Patrick Kehoe
Federer never beat Ljubo or Blake in a major final though did he? Not
sure why you go on about that...
P
reilloc
> ....how about a friendly wager.
>
> You are all convinced that Nadal wins in straights....put some action
> where your mouth is. If Fed wins on Sunday, you - along with all your
> socks - leave the group for good. If anyone takes up the offer, I will
> in turn, leave forthwith never to return should Fed lose. Man enough to
> step up? Reply 'I'm in' if you have the courage of your conviction.
I don't understand why you would want those stakes. It's like conceding
that you can't easily parry garden-variety trollism. I can't think of
anybody I'd oust if I had the ability.
LNC
Patrick Kehoe
Rafa clear favourite... dominates Fed on clay... at 25, he should
win... with one danger point for Rafa: Fed LOVES these babolat balls
that don't fluff up much... his serve is really humming... could be
leveller???
P
Patrick Kehoe
>
> - Show quoted text -
It predates you TT, sorry... though you may have prefected the
phraseology!
:)
P
TT
No it doesn't! This is an outrage!!!
*skriptis
"Osama Bin Ladetorest" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 4, 4:36 pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
> "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> messagenews:4bdaca55-66a4-4fad...@h7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 4, 8:32 am, "felangey" <o...@cloudnine.com> wrote:
>
> > ....how about a friendly wager.
>
> > You are all convinced that Nadal wins in straights....put some action
> > where
> > your mouth is. If Fed wins on Sunday, you - along with all your socks -
> > leave the group for good. If anyone takes up the offer, I will in turn,
> > leave forthwith never to return should Fed lose. Man enough to step up?
> > Reply 'I'm in' if you have the courage of your conviction.
> >If Fed wins, I will never call Lendl as greatest in modern era again.
> >That's a promise I won't break. If Fed loses he is still behind Lendl
> >and Borg in my book
>
> Borg was beaten heavilly during his peak, so no BOAT argument.
>By whom?
> He never won USO, even though it was held 3 times on clay, his best
> sruface.
>Green clay is closer to hard courts than you think.
Never said it's the same. Even AO/Wim grass were different, just as AO/USO
HC is different. Green/Red clay is perhaps most different when it comes the
same surfaces but it's still the same surface.
But the point was it's still the same surface, and also about US open being
out of Borg's reach whether it is on grass, clay or hard...in a way that's
worse than not being able to win a slam on your most unfavorable surface.
I think Sampras would have won 3 FO titles if they switched to slow grass
for three years during his time.
Even if Federer had failed to win FO, I'd still think of Borg's USO choke as
a lot bigger than Federer's at FO.
So, with other stuff, it's easily, Federer > Borg
> grass, hc, clay...he just never did it.
> didn't dominate #1, or yec. doesn't have most slams.
> only 59 pts in 7543.
>
> Federer is greater than Borg.
>I consider Wilander > Sampras. So I have different way of looking at
>it. Lets agree to disagree.
That's so wrong and dumb because tennis is played in knockout competitions.
It's not a league sport like FA Premier League where theams play 38 matches
against each other.
Even in those matches beating your rival means a lot because it often
determines who'll top the league, meaning there are "bigger" and "lesser"
games.
Not all are the same.
In knockout competition like cups, or tennis tournaments, it goes far beyond
that.
the latter the round is, the more important it is...and the final is like a
singularity.
you other succeed there or don't.
it's about racking up silverware.
Saying that a guy who never won Tour de France is a greater cyclist over the
one who won it 7 times...
it's just...bizarre... and that's why people can't arse themselves to take
you seriously in tennis discussions.
Raja, The Great
> "Osama Bin Ladetorest" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e3291c3d-9540-4916...@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Okay I will make a case...
AO ..... Wilander > Sampras
FO.... Wilander > Sampras
Wim.... Sampras > Wilander
USO... Sampras > Wilander
YEC .... Sampras > Wilander
Davis Cup ..... Wilander > Sampras
Tie breaker... who had the best year? Wilander 1988.... End of Story.
Wilander flaked out much earlier than he should but in that short
period he was plain better than Sampras.
*skriptis
I admit I am not fully into Wilander's DC record, but Sampras won DC as
well. So Wilander could have only won few titles more.
DC is a team event, a guy like Federer is partially unlucky to come from a
weak country and not being able to win it.
Even as a tiebreaker (which I feel DC is) I feel it's more about whether you
just have it, or don't, number of DC titles just aint that important.
The other points are all correct, but your failure lies in the fact you
assign equal values to all slams and slams to yec...that's just wrong on so
many levels and has been discussed many times here.
djokovic recently said something like, reaching #1 is my professional
fullfilment and a goal, winning wimbledon would be a dream come true.
felangey
Mate, nobody gives two tosses what you think. For real. They just quietly
mock you. You are a figure of fun. You do get that, right?
bob
no - that's what roddick/hewitt were for.
bob
bob
wrote:
yeah, felangey must know something that nobody else knows. he must
ahve a bundle laid down on fed. i give the 30 because nadal just seems
a hair off his game past couple months. not hurt, no excuses, just a
little 'off'. a red hot nadal demolishes murray far worse.
bob
Superdave
>On 5/06/2011 12:10 AM, felangey wrote:
>> I was really hoping to attract the attention of
>> TT-andhisinfinitesocks/Whisper-bobskriptis/Fan.....all mouth it seems.
>
>
>You do realize I give Fed 10% chance of winning right?
>
>Do you know what 10% means?
10% is just so you can cover your ass and say you said he could win should he
win. be honest.
Fan
> On 4/06/2011 11:32 PM, felangey wrote:
>
> > ....how about a friendly wager.
>
> > You are all convinced that Nadal wins in straights....put some action
> > where your mouth is. If Fed wins on Sunday, you - along with all your
> > socks - leave the group for good. If anyone takes up the offer, I will
> > in turn, leave forthwith never to return should Fed lose. Man enough to
> > step up? Reply 'I'm in' if you have the courage of your conviction.
>
> incarnation no? Why would anyone make a wager with some 'new' random
> poster?
Good point :)
Fan
You are a liar.
I never said any of those things other than calling his bottle
throwing tantrum abuse of ball boys. I spoke of the damage Federer
caused to the ball boys by throwing those bottles around instead of
handing them to the ball boys waiting for him to hand the bottles to
them. I stand 100% behind that statement because the truth is not
slander.
I never claimed that Federer paid off anyone
I never claimed that Federer had affairs with anyone
You claiming these things, these disgusting filthy things describe
your character better than I could
Your “unsubstanciated malicious assertions are slanderous”...
I repeat, you are a liar and you are a slanderer