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Wait, Sinner hired Darren Cahill as his new coach?
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Court_1
Jul 3, 2022, 6:55:14 PM7/3/22
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I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
Max DeSantis
Jul 3, 2022, 7:54:18 PM7/3/22
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Court_1 schrieb am Montag, 4. Juli 2022 um 00:55:14 UTC+2:
> I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
>
> Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
A coach doesn't necessarily need to travel all the time with his player.
> I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
>
> Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
A year has 52 weeks. More than half of that time a player is not traveling but stationed at some home base.
Max
Gracchus
Jul 3, 2022, 8:15:31 PM7/3/22
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Sawfish
Jul 3, 2022, 8:22:02 PM7/3/22
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It was interesting. I think we could learn that if Anisimova stays
positive, she's a definite force in the women's game, but we really
learned a lot more about Gauff. I think she was fated to lose to a
motivated Anisimova, but she basically really let it snowball. She
didn't need to go down 2 and 1 the last two sets.
I've seen this before over the last year or so. She'll need to get past
it, eventually, but she is an outstanding talent physically capable of
multiple slams.
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*skriptis
Jul 4, 2022, 12:25:01 AM7/4/22
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Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> She'll need to get past it, eventually, but she is an outstanding talent physically capable of multiple slams.
So she can overcome it, win couple of slams even though she's losing 2 and 1 right now and we haven't seen her winning slams, but being similarly positive about Raducanu's future, who had the most convincing slam win in the history...is unwarranted optimism?
;)
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So she can overcome it, win couple of slams even though she's losing 2 and 1 right now and we haven't seen her winning slams, but being similarly positive about Raducanu's future, who had the most convincing slam win in the history...is unwarranted optimism?
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Whisper
Jul 4, 2022, 1:46:13 AM7/4/22
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On 4/07/2022 8:55 am, Court_1 wrote:
> I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
>
> Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. >Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
It was temporary to help him improve on grass. He's gone from 0-4 to
> I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
>
> Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. >Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
4-4 in pretty brilliant fashion. I think he'll be his permanent coach.
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shoot you for refusing to budge, they were going to kill you anyway.
The Iceberg
Jul 4, 2022, 5:18:43 AM7/4/22
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On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 06:46:13 UTC+1, Whisper wrote:
> On 4/07/2022 8:55 am, Court_1 wrote:
> > I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
> >
> > Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. >Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
> It was temporary to help him improve on grass. He's gone from 0-4 to
> 4-4 in pretty brilliant fashion. I think he'll be his permanent coach.
yeah now this is a good pick, if only Tsitsi or Kyrgios would do this!
> On 4/07/2022 8:55 am, Court_1 wrote:
> > I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new coach. Is that coach gone already?
> >
> > Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and coaches split up. >Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now decided to coach Sinner!
> It was temporary to help him improve on grass. He's gone from 0-4 to
> 4-4 in pretty brilliant fashion. I think he'll be his permanent coach.
Whisper
Jul 4, 2022, 5:31:18 AM7/4/22
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a bright guy who would be easy to coach as he's adaptable and keen to
learn/improve. You need to put your faith in your coach, but of course
finding the right coach isn't easy either. Cahill understands the game
well and can see where a talented guy like Sinner is not maximizing his
potential.
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 7:06:18 AM7/4/22
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it's about all he's gonna change.
He does stuff his own way, and that's the end of it...
[cue soft strains of Sinatra's "My Way"...]
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 7:08:53 AM7/4/22
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On 7/4/22 2:31 AM, Whisper wrote:
> On 4/07/2022 7:18 pm, The Iceberg wrote:
>> On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 06:46:13 UTC+1, Whisper wrote:
>>> On 4/07/2022 8:55 am, Court_1 wrote:
>>>> I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new
>>>> coach. Is that coach gone already?
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the
>>>> reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his
>>>> family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and
>>>> coaches split up. >Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now
>>>> decided to coach Sinner!
>>> It was temporary to help him improve on grass. He's gone from 0-4 to
>>> 4-4 in pretty brilliant fashion. I think he'll be his permanent coach.
>>
>> yeah now this is a good pick, if only Tsitsi or Kyrgios would do this!
>
>
> Those 2 aren't receptive to coaching or listening to others. Sinner is
> a bright guy who would be easy to coach as he's adaptable and keen to
> learn/improve. You need to put your faith in your coach, but of
> course finding the right coach isn't easy either. Cahill understands
> the game well and can see where a talented guy like Sinner is not
> maximizing his potential.
>
I really don't know about what, exactly, Cahill does in coaching, but
> On 4/07/2022 7:18 pm, The Iceberg wrote:
>> On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 06:46:13 UTC+1, Whisper wrote:
>>> On 4/07/2022 8:55 am, Court_1 wrote:
>>>> I didn't know that. I thought Sinner recently hired some other new
>>>> coach. Is that coach gone already?
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, when Cahill recently split with Anisimova he said the
>>>> reason was that he no longer wanted to travel and be away from his
>>>> family. That's a standard PR statement used when players and
>>>> coaches split up. >Obviously, it's not the truth if he's now
>>>> decided to coach Sinner!
>>> It was temporary to help him improve on grass. He's gone from 0-4 to
>>> 4-4 in pretty brilliant fashion. I think he'll be his permanent coach.
>>
>> yeah now this is a good pick, if only Tsitsi or Kyrgios would do this!
>
>
> Those 2 aren't receptive to coaching or listening to others. Sinner is
> a bright guy who would be easy to coach as he's adaptable and keen to
> learn/improve. You need to put your faith in your coach, but of
> course finding the right coach isn't easy either. Cahill understands
> the game well and can see where a talented guy like Sinner is not
> maximizing his potential.
>
both he and Serena Williams' coach, that french guy, have "salesman"
written all over them during interviews.
Still, could be very, very good, I don't know.
Whisper
Jul 4, 2022, 9:01:42 AM7/4/22
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what you're not doing optimally, and he conveys that to his pupil in a
way they understand and can apply. He may have his limits, but he
certainly can make any player improve to a point. I guess that applies
to any coach - at some point you become a Nadal or Djokovic who knows it
all and only has coach as a reinforcement. I think he took Halep as far
as he could, which helped her to go from FO r/up to FO & Wim champion.
Halep doesn't have any huge weapons so I think she's never going to get
better than what she is, reached her limit.
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 11:03:10 AM7/4/22
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Halep has a very sound game, is very mobile, and has a hard-core will to
compete to the end, but sometimes becomes unfocused if things aren't
working. I have not seen her either throw in the towel or significantly
lose emotional control (a quick, violent shit-fit, but then back to
work), but she can become tactically inflexible when she gets like
this--doing the same shit that's not working, but doing it HARDER. Of
course, that seldom works.
I think Nadal is the best at changing gears during a match that I can
recall. Very, very effective.
Whisper
Jul 4, 2022, 11:51:15 AM7/4/22
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couple service games and think he's fucked, yet he digs in for hours and
ends up with the win. Countless. He needs to suffer in his matches,
like a pig in mud.
Gracchus
Jul 4, 2022, 11:57:09 AM7/4/22
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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
> On 5/07/2022 1:03 am, Sawfish wrote:
> > I think Nadal is the best at changing gears during a match that I can
> > recall. Very, very effective.
> Yes, how many times have we seen Nadal play short, lose power, drop
> couple service games and think he's fucked, yet he digs in for hours and
> ends up with the win. Countless. He needs to suffer in his matches,
> like a pig in mud.
An apt analogy.
> On 5/07/2022 1:03 am, Sawfish wrote:
> > I think Nadal is the best at changing gears during a match that I can
> > recall. Very, very effective.
> Yes, how many times have we seen Nadal play short, lose power, drop
> couple service games and think he's fucked, yet he digs in for hours and
> ends up with the win. Countless. He needs to suffer in his matches,
> like a pig in mud.
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 12:01:49 PM7/4/22
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I get this picture in my mind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Hoe#/media/File:Millet,_Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_-_Man_with_a_Hoe_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 1:07:44 PM7/4/22
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On 7/3/22 9:24 PM, *skriptis wrote:
> Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> She'll need to get past it, eventually, but she is an outstanding talent physically capable of multiple slams.
>
>
> So she can overcome it, win couple of slams even though she's losing 2 and 1 right now and we haven't seen her winning slams, but being similarly positive about Raducanu's future, who had the most convincing slam win in the history...is unwarranted optimism?
>
> ;)
>
>
Truthfully, right now, given what I'm presently seeing, and the apparent
> Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> She'll need to get past it, eventually, but she is an outstanding talent physically capable of multiple slams.
>
>
> So she can overcome it, win couple of slams even though she's losing 2 and 1 right now and we haven't seen her winning slams, but being similarly positive about Raducanu's future, who had the most convincing slam win in the history...is unwarranted optimism?
>
> ;)
>
>
trajectory, I'd have to say that neither will get any further than they
are now.
I hope I'm wrong, but neither actually appears hungry, like Halep, like
Badosa.
You know what I mean: Connors was ALWAYS hungry... ;^)
*skriptis
Jul 4, 2022, 4:06:58 PM7/4/22
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Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On 7/4/22 8:57 AM, Gracchus wrote:> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:>> On 5/07/2022 1:03 am, Sawfish wrote:>>> I think Nadal is the best at changing gears during a match that I can>>> recall. Very, very effective.>> Yes, how many times have we seen Nadal play short, lose power, drop>> couple service games and think he's fucked, yet he digs in for hours and>> ends up with the win. Countless. He needs to suffer in his matches,>> like a pig in mud.> An apt analogy.I admire Nadal's tennis, in all ways, but every time I watch him play, I get this picture in my mind:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Hoe#/media/File:Millet,_Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_-_Man_with_a_Hoe_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"He who talks the talk must also walk the walk." --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So funny, my friend and I laughed at the guy who bemoaned Nadal during 2007 FO final, who was saying Federer is about to turn the match around, Nadal won't win a game...and who was describing Nadal as a soil/clay/earth laborer, an agriculture man.
It stayed in our memories...
> On 7/4/22 8:57 AM, Gracchus wrote:> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:>> On 5/07/2022 1:03 am, Sawfish wrote:>>> I think Nadal is the best at changing gears during a match that I can>>> recall. Very, very effective.>> Yes, how many times have we seen Nadal play short, lose power, drop>> couple service games and think he's fucked, yet he digs in for hours and>> ends up with the win. Countless. He needs to suffer in his matches,>> like a pig in mud.> An apt analogy.I admire Nadal's tennis, in all ways, but every time I watch him play, I get this picture in my mind:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Hoe#/media/File:Millet,_Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_-_Man_with_a_Hoe_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"He who talks the talk must also walk the walk." --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So funny, my friend and I laughed at the guy who bemoaned Nadal during 2007 FO final, who was saying Federer is about to turn the match around, Nadal won't win a game...and who was describing Nadal as a soil/clay/earth laborer, an agriculture man.
It stayed in our memories...
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 4:14:45 PM7/4/22
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Court_1
Jul 4, 2022, 4:36:28 PM7/4/22
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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:01:42 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> I think he took Halep as far
> as he could, which helped her to go from FO r/up to FO & Wim champion.
> Halep doesn't have any huge weapons so I think she's never going to get
> better than what she is, reached her limit.
I don't think that has anything to do with why Halep and Cahill split. Remember, they split temporarily once before and then resumed their business relationship. Personally, (and I have no proof, obviously just a hunch.) I think there was more than a business relationship going on between them. When she hooked up with the guy she recently married, the relationship with Cahill came to an abrupt end.
> I think he took Halep as far
> as he could, which helped her to go from FO r/up to FO & Wim champion.
> Halep doesn't have any huge weapons so I think she's never going to get
> better than what she is, reached her limit.
Then Cahill started up with Anisimova and that ended abruptly too with the standard PR statement given to the press about how Cahill no longer wants to travel. That's all PR BS. He took on the Sinner job immediately. There's more going on behind the scenes than we'll ever be privy to.
In any case, players can always improve. Even players who have won 20+ slams look to always tweak things. Halep has recently specifically stated that "the fire is back and I want to win another grand slam." She definitely has a champion's mentality and you can't teach that in a million years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQg-67_HktQ
Apparently(I haven't watched any of her Wimbledon matches yet), she has improved her serve a lot. Chris Evert and the ESPN crew were all talking about it the other day. As for her "huge" weapons, her defense is out of this world. Top tier. Her backhand is a potent and consistent shot and she has world class movement and a very high tennis IQ.
Sawfish
Jul 4, 2022, 5:09:53 PM7/4/22
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On 7/4/22 1:36 PM, Court_1 wrote:
> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:01:42 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
>
>> I think he took Halep as far
>> as he could, which helped her to go from FO r/up to FO & Wim champion.
>> Halep doesn't have any huge weapons so I think she's never going to get
>> better than what she is, reached her limit.
> I don't think that has anything to do with why Halep and Cahill split. Remember, they split temporarily once before and then resumed their business relationship. Personally, (and I have no proof, obviously just a hunch.) I think there was more than a business relationship going on between them. When she hooked up with the guy she recently married, the relationship with Cahill came to an abrupt end.
>
> Then Cahill started up with Anisimova and that ended abruptly too with the standard PR statement given to the press about how Cahill no longer wants to travel. That's all PR BS. He took on the Sinner job immediately. There's more going on behind the scenes than we'll ever be privy to.
>
> In any case, players can always improve. Even players who have won 20+ slams look to always tweak things. Halep has recently specifically stated that "the fire is back and I want to win another grand slam." She definitely has a champion's mentality and you can't teach that in a million years.
Agreed. You have this,or not.
> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:01:42 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
>
>> I think he took Halep as far
>> as he could, which helped her to go from FO r/up to FO & Wim champion.
>> Halep doesn't have any huge weapons so I think she's never going to get
>> better than what she is, reached her limit.
> I don't think that has anything to do with why Halep and Cahill split. Remember, they split temporarily once before and then resumed their business relationship. Personally, (and I have no proof, obviously just a hunch.) I think there was more than a business relationship going on between them. When she hooked up with the guy she recently married, the relationship with Cahill came to an abrupt end.
>
> Then Cahill started up with Anisimova and that ended abruptly too with the standard PR statement given to the press about how Cahill no longer wants to travel. That's all PR BS. He took on the Sinner job immediately. There's more going on behind the scenes than we'll ever be privy to.
>
> In any case, players can always improve. Even players who have won 20+ slams look to always tweak things. Halep has recently specifically stated that "the fire is back and I want to win another grand slam." She definitely has a champion's mentality and you can't teach that in a million years.
Rybakina doesn't have it, Halep does. I think Badosa, too. She really
worked hard on her game since I first saw her come up. I figured that
she would coast, but appears to have shown I was wrong.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQg-67_HktQ
>
> Apparently(I haven't watched any of her Wimbledon matches yet), she has improved her serve a lot. Chris Evert and the ESPN crew were all talking about it the other day. As for her "huge" weapons, her defense is out of this world. Top tier. Her backhand is a potent and consistent shot and she has world class movement and a very high tennis IQ.
Whaddaya think? I don't know or care who'd win, but it would be
something to see and to contemplate.
Whisper
Jul 5, 2022, 3:11:23 AM7/5/22
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same level overall.
The Iceberg
Jul 5, 2022, 5:59:49 AM7/5/22
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