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Ivan Lendl says he admires Steffi Graf the most
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soccerfan777
Sep 16, 2017, 6:40:30 PM9/16/17
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And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
Lendl endorsement of Steffi confirms it. Steffi is Goat.
Max, do you like Lendl more now;)
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
Lendl endorsement of Steffi confirms it. Steffi is Goat.
Max, do you like Lendl more now;)
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 16, 2017, 6:49:16 PM9/16/17
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And what has Serena winning her 23rd slam to do with admiring Steffi the most?
Max
soccerfan777
Sep 16, 2017, 7:06:13 PM9/16/17
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Read the article. He says Steffi achieved the most in her sport.
So he is at least not a slam counting chimp like most of rst.
So he is at least not a slam counting chimp like most of rst.
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 16, 2017, 7:24:38 PM9/16/17
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On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 1:06:13 AM UTC+2, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Read the article. He says Steffi achieved the most in her sport.
>
> So he is at least not a slam counting chimp like most of rst.
US Americans and blacks all over the world admire Serena most for obvious reasons. Trumpers, BLM activists, micro-agression whiners and so on.
> Read the article. He says Steffi achieved the most in her sport.
>
> So he is at least not a slam counting chimp like most of rst.
The rest of the world not so much.
Max
soccerfan777
Sep 16, 2017, 7:26:10 PM9/16/17
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What is the worst thing anyone’s said to you?
And they are still alive?
And they are still alive?
soccerfan777
Sep 16, 2017, 7:27:41 PM9/16/17
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How would you like to be remembered?
As a guy who had fun.
What is the most important lesson life has taught you?
Honesty.
He always give the best interviews
As a guy who had fun.
What is the most important lesson life has taught you?
Honesty.
He always give the best interviews
reilloc
Sep 16, 2017, 8:08:52 PM9/16/17
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On 9/16/2017 6:27 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> How would you like to be remembered?
> As a guy who had fun. So stay out of my way.
> How would you like to be remembered?
>
> What is the most important lesson life has taught you?
> Honesty, once you can fake that you've got it made.
> What is the most important lesson life has taught you?
John Liang
Sep 16, 2017, 8:51:43 PM9/16/17
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RaspingDrive
Sep 16, 2017, 10:46:26 PM9/16/17
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On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 7:06:13 PM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Read the article. He says Steffi achieved the most in her sport.
>
> So he is at least not a slam counting chimp like most of rst.
Raja, Serena's first slam was in 1999. Her latest slam is in 2017. And she has 23 slams. She too has achieved the most in her sport. Plus even teeth when she smiles which looks great, IMO.
> Read the article. He says Steffi achieved the most in her sport.
>
> So he is at least not a slam counting chimp like most of rst.
soccerfan777
Sep 16, 2017, 11:39:28 PM9/16/17
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Raspingdrive thanks for educating me. I knew none of that
RaspingDrive
Sep 17, 2017, 12:48:12 AM9/17/17
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On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 11:39:28 PM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Raspingdrive thanks for educating me. I knew none of that
Touche, Raja!
> Raspingdrive thanks for educating me. I knew none of that
TT
Sep 17, 2017, 1:18:30 AM9/17/17
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well.
TT
Sep 17, 2017, 1:26:40 AM9/17/17
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Ugly cheating whore.
John Liang
Sep 17, 2017, 2:24:41 AM9/17/17
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 17, 2017, 2:39:32 AM9/17/17
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Max
TT
Sep 17, 2017, 3:04:39 AM9/17/17
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 17, 2017, 3:20:17 AM9/17/17
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Max
*skriptis
Sep 17, 2017, 3:35:32 AM9/17/17
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soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
He doesn't seem like the guy that had fun. Federer has fun.
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soccerfan777
Sep 17, 2017, 9:30:33 AM9/17/17
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TT is sore Graf whooped Hingis ass in the 1999 final and Hingis never won a slam again
*skriptis
Sep 17, 2017, 9:40:54 AM9/17/17
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soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> TT is sore Graf whooped Hingis ass in the 1999 final and Hingis never won a slam again
>
Ok, yes we know TT likes to throw in his bias disguised as
>
objective facts.
RaspingDrive
Sep 17, 2017, 10:36:49 AM9/17/17
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On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 9:30:33 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> TT is sore Graf whooped Hingis ass in the 1999 final and Hingis never won a slam again
Raja, taking your logic further can we conclude the same about you ever since Serena passed the 22 mark? Just asking :)
> TT is sore Graf whooped Hingis ass in the 1999 final and Hingis never won a slam again
StephenJ
Sep 17, 2017, 11:53:43 AM9/17/17
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On 9/16/2017 5:40 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
>
LOL, he said Steffi did "really well", not that she was GOAT, and heck,
> And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
>
this is Lendl anyway so who cares? The world regards Serena as GOAT.
Maybe Graf and Lendl had a fling back in the day and he has a fond
memory? But his admiration can't be based on tennis achievements, LOL.
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soccerfan777
Sep 17, 2017, 1:42:41 PM9/17/17
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You must be joking...Steffi won 22 slams by age 29. Serena won her 23rd slams at age 36!
soccerfan777
Sep 17, 2017, 1:45:09 PM9/17/17
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Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
StephenJ
Sep 17, 2017, 2:47:20 PM9/17/17
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On 9/17/2017 12:45 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
>
> Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
>
How old was Graf when she won her 23rd slam? Think about that, then
> Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
>
> Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
>
realize how off-base your "22 by 29" comment is, or else ask someone
around you smart enough to explain it to you.
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 17, 2017, 5:24:52 PM9/17/17
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On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 5:53:43 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
> On 9/16/2017 5:40 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
> >
>
> LOL, he said Steffi did "really well", not that she was GOAT, and heck,
> this is Lendl anyway so who cares? The world regards Serena as GOAT.
>
That's the problem with Trumpers and white supremacists - they think their little world is THE world ...
> On 9/16/2017 5:40 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
> >
>
> LOL, he said Steffi did "really well", not that she was GOAT, and heck,
> this is Lendl anyway so who cares? The world regards Serena as GOAT.
>
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 17, 2017, 5:27:58 PM9/17/17
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But "greatest of all time" ahead of Steffi Graf?
Don't be asinine ...
Max
StephenJ
Sep 17, 2017, 7:54:54 PM9/17/17
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On 9/17/2017 4:27 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 8:47:20 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
>> On 9/17/2017 12:45 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>> Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
>>>
>>> Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
>>>
>>
>> How old was Graf when she won her 23rd slam? Think about that, then
>> realize how off-base your "22 by 29" comment is, or else ask someone
>> around you smart enough to explain it to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Stevy boy,
Bye Bye Stefi !!!! LMAO !!!!!!!
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 8:47:20 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
>> On 9/17/2017 12:45 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>> Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
>>>
>>> Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
>>>
>>
>> How old was Graf when she won her 23rd slam? Think about that, then
>> realize how off-base your "22 by 29" comment is, or else ask someone
>> around you smart enough to explain it to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Stevy boy,
RaspingDrive
Sep 17, 2017, 11:53:44 PM9/17/17
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On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 1:45:09 PM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
>
> Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
Sachin Tendulkar scored his centuries earlier than Lara or Ponting, so you would consider him better?
> Rasping drive, I never liked Serena even when she was winning in 2002. You can look up the archives. And that has nothing to do with her race. It has got a lot to do with lack of grace and class on and off the court. I haven't seen a bigger phony than her.
>
> Either way 23 slams at age 36 does not surpass 22 slams by age 29
Whisper
Sep 18, 2017, 6:20:03 AM9/18/17
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On 18/09/2017 3:42 AM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> You must be joking...Steffi won 22 slams by age 29. Serena won her 23rd slams at age 36!
>
>
It says a lot Serena could maintain slam winning form for that long, &
> You must be joking...Steffi won 22 slams by age 29. Serena won her 23rd slams at age 36!
>
>
is still going. She'll probably defend AO while having a baby in between.
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soccerfan777
Sep 18, 2017, 6:51:24 AM9/18/17
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Yes Sachin Tendulkar was far better than both.
soccerfan777
Sep 18, 2017, 6:53:07 AM9/18/17
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No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
Whisper
Sep 18, 2017, 7:09:30 AM9/18/17
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On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
>
It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
>
wins slams over many eras.
Court_1
Sep 18, 2017, 7:18:30 AM9/18/17
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On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 6:53:07 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
Can you write a coherent sentence, please? What kind of English is that?
> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
It's not impressive that Serena's winning slams in her mid 30's?
Serena has surpassed that butterface you slobber over. Give it a rest already!
RaspingDrive
Sep 18, 2017, 8:31:58 AM9/18/17
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On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Yes Sachin Tendulkar was far better than both.
He is better than Viv Richards and Sangakkara? Because he scored his centuries at earlier age than the other two?
> Yes Sachin Tendulkar was far better than both.
RaspingDrive
Sep 18, 2017, 8:37:17 AM9/18/17
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 1:00:54 PM9/18/17
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When in the Open era were there weaker players fighting for the top spot?
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 1:03:51 PM9/18/17
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But not "greatest ever". People like Serena aren't "great". Only in a peculiar American (Trumpian) sense maybe.
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 1:12:06 PM9/18/17
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Steffi's beautiful face was and IS one of her best assets!
http://www.dtb-tennis.de/Tennis-International/Fed-Cup/Aktuelle-Meldungen/Stefanie-Graf-Lasst-uns-positiv-nach-vorne-schauen
I don't think you looked that beautiful when you were 46!!!
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 1:15:54 PM9/18/17
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Max
The Iceberg
Sep 18, 2017, 2:16:02 PM9/18/17
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 2:22:59 PM9/18/17
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But if he attacks North Korea I will support him.
Max
StephenJ
Sep 18, 2017, 3:31:23 PM9/18/17
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On 9/18/2017 12:03 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 1:09:30 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
>> On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
>>>
>>
>> It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
>> wins slams over many eras.
>>
>>
>>
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>
> You may say 'best ever" since no one knows whether peak Steffi would have beaten peak Serena.
> But not "greatest ever".
Serena is greatest ever in the sense of having the best tennis
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 1:09:30 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
>> On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
>>>
>>
>> It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
>> wins slams over many eras.
>>
>>
>>
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>
> You may say 'best ever" since no one knows whether peak Steffi would have beaten peak Serena.
> But not "greatest ever".
accomplishments.
Whether she would have the moral bad character to shamelessly rack up
slam wins after the rival who dominated the slams for the previous 3
years was stabbed by a fan desperate for her to be #1 again, no one
knows, but i doubt it.
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StephenJ
Sep 18, 2017, 3:32:50 PM9/18/17
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Fan stabbed Seles.
BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 4:34:48 PM9/18/17
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On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 9:31:23 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
> On 9/18/2017 12:03 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> > On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 1:09:30 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
> >> On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> >>> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
> >> wins slams over many eras.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > You may say 'best ever" since no one knows whether peak Steffi would have beaten peak Serena.
> > But not "greatest ever".
>
> Serena is greatest ever in the sense of having the best tennis
> accomplishments.
Even that is debatable.
> On 9/18/2017 12:03 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> > On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 1:09:30 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
> >> On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> >>> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
> >> wins slams over many eras.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
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> >> http://www.avg.com
> >
> >
> > You may say 'best ever" since no one knows whether peak Steffi would have beaten peak Serena.
> > But not "greatest ever".
>
> Serena is greatest ever in the sense of having the best tennis
> accomplishments.
What is the difference between 23 and 22 slams. Not a lot. Just a win more against Safarova or Wozniacki types.
What is the difference between a Golden Grand Slam and nothing? The whole world. A legendary record most probably never to be duplicated.
> Whether she would have the moral bad character to shamelessly rack up
> slam wins after the rival who dominated the slams for the previous 3
> years was stabbed by a fan desperate for her to be #1 again, no one
> knows, but i doubt it.
>
A tiny Belgian who dominated her in the slams? A big sister with Sjogren's disease?
Both who won their last slams before Serena won her 9th (of 23)?
Lol
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 18, 2017, 4:39:11 PM9/18/17
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What do you think a young Sabby or Novotna or ASV would have done with those clowns?
Max
StephenJ
Sep 18, 2017, 4:57:56 PM9/18/17
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On 9/18/2017 3:34 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 9:31:23 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
>> On 9/18/2017 12:03 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 1:09:30 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>>>> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
>>>> wins slams over many eras.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>> You may say 'best ever" since no one knows whether peak Steffi would have beaten peak Serena.
>>> But not "greatest ever".
>>
>> Serena is greatest ever in the sense of having the best tennis
>> accomplishments.
>
> Even that is debatable.
> What is the difference between 23 and 22 slams. Not a lot. Just a win more against Safarova or Wozniacki types.
> What is the difference between a Golden Grand Slam and nothing? The whole world. A legendary record most probably never to be duplicated.
>
>
>
>> Whether she would have the moral bad character to shamelessly rack up
>> slam wins after the rival who dominated the slams for the previous 3
>> years was stabbed by a fan desperate for her to be #1 again, no one
>> knows, but i doubt it.
>>
>
> Which great rival did she have?
Venus, but she got the best of her, sadly.
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 9:31:23 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
>> On 9/18/2017 12:03 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 1:09:30 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2017 8:53 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>>>> No what it stays is Serena player for 6 more years and one 1 more slam than Steffi. Not very impressive.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It demonstrates absolute goat/boat credentials, being good enough to
>>>> wins slams over many eras.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>> You may say 'best ever" since no one knows whether peak Steffi would have beaten peak Serena.
>>> But not "greatest ever".
>>
>> Serena is greatest ever in the sense of having the best tennis
>> accomplishments.
>
> Even that is debatable.
> What is the difference between 23 and 22 slams. Not a lot. Just a win more against Safarova or Wozniacki types.
> What is the difference between a Golden Grand Slam and nothing? The whole world. A legendary record most probably never to be duplicated.
>
>
>
>> Whether she would have the moral bad character to shamelessly rack up
>> slam wins after the rival who dominated the slams for the previous 3
>> years was stabbed by a fan desperate for her to be #1 again, no one
>> knows, but i doubt it.
>>
>
> Which great rival did she have?
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Sep 18, 2017, 4:59:00 PM9/18/17
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On 9/18/2017 3:39 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 9:32:50 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
>> On 9/18/2017 12:00 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 12:20:03 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2017 3:42 AM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>>>> You must be joking...Steffi won 22 slams by age 29. Serena won her 23rd slams at age 36!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It says a lot Serena could maintain slam winning form for that long, &
>>>> is still going. She'll probably defend AO while having a baby in between.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
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>>>
>>>
>>> It says everything about Halep, Pliskova, Radwanska, Kerber. Players competing for #1 in Serena's absence.
>>> When in the Open era were there weaker players fighting for the top spot?
>>
>> ASV? Novotna? Sabby? Mary Jo Fernandez? That's what was left after Graf
>> Fan stabbed Seles.
>>
>> BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 9:32:50 PM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
>> On 9/18/2017 12:00 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 12:20:03 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2017 3:42 AM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>>>> You must be joking...Steffi won 22 slams by age 29. Serena won her 23rd slams at age 36!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It says a lot Serena could maintain slam winning form for that long, &
>>>> is still going. She'll probably defend AO while having a baby in between.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>> It says everything about Halep, Pliskova, Radwanska, Kerber. Players competing for #1 in Serena's absence.
>>> When in the Open era were there weaker players fighting for the top spot?
>>
>> ASV? Novotna? Sabby? Mary Jo Fernandez? That's what was left after Graf
>> Fan stabbed Seles.
>>
>> BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!
> Don't forget Kimiko Date. Who came back after 12 years to beat Sharapova, Stosur, Li, Muguruza, Pennetta among >others.
Sabby with her 40 mph serve wouldn't have made it past the round of 32
at any slam today.
Bye Bye STEFFI !!!!!!!
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 19, 2017, 5:44:21 PM9/19/17
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Serena won 14 of her 23 slams after that.
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 19, 2017, 5:49:10 PM9/19/17
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Granted, when nervous her second serve sometimes left her which made her serve very slowly (eg. Wimbledon 1991).
Max
StephenJ
Sep 20, 2017, 2:21:36 PM9/20/17
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way, Venus would be the open era GOAT, not Serena.
But that's not how the cookie crumbled. :(
StephenJ
Sep 20, 2017, 2:25:16 PM9/20/17
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BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!
BTW, here are the official fastest serves of 1993:
1993
1-Brenda Schultz McCarthy (Ned) 185 Wimbledon
1-Jana Novotna (Czech Rep.) 185 Wimbledon
3-Miriam Oremans (Ned) 177 Zurich
4-Natalia Medvedeva (Ukraine) 175.4 Schenectady
5-Jennifer Capriati (USA) 172.2 Wimbledon
5-Steffi Graf (Germany) 172.2 U. S. Open
7-Marketa Kochta (Germany) 170.6 Chicago
7-Helena Sukova (Czech Rep.) 170.6 U. S. Open
9-Monica Seles (USA) 170 Australian Open
10-Lori McNeil (USA) 168.9 Los Angeles
10-Larisa Neiland (Latvia) 168.9 Schenectady
12-Debbie Graham (USA) 167.3 Chicago
12-Mary Pierce (France) 167.3 Filadelfia
12-Julie Richardson (New Zealand) 167-3 San Diego
12-Claire Wegink (Ned) 167.3 U. S. Open
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 20, 2017, 2:46:20 PM9/20/17
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Point it that Sabby was quite a good server.
Max
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I bet Raja is very dark.
Probably the reason he dislikes Sampras who was a Mediterranean type.
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bob
Sep 20, 2017, 10:57:25 PM9/20/17
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:18:29 +0300, TT <as...@dprk.kp> wrote:
>soccerfan777 kirjoitti 17.9.2017 klo 1:40:
>> And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
>>
>> Lendl endorsement of Steffi confirms it. Steffi is Goat.
>>
>> Max, do you like Lendl more now;)
>>
>
>Lendl is just a good old racist white male. Probably votes Republican as
>well.
lendl's an incredible capitalist. i'm fairly certain he's always voted
either republican, or right of republican.
bob
>soccerfan777 kirjoitti 17.9.2017 klo 1:40:
>> And this after Serena won the 23rd slam!
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/15/ivan-lendl-q-and-a-interview-wimbledon-2017
>>
>>
>> Max, do you like Lendl more now;)
>>
>
>Lendl is just a good old racist white male. Probably votes Republican as
>well.
lendl's an incredible capitalist. i'm fairly certain he's always voted
either republican, or right of republican.
bob
StephenJ
Sep 21, 2017, 4:21:01 PM9/21/17
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was often 40 mph. It was pathetic.
Carey
Sep 21, 2017, 4:28:11 PM9/21/17
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On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 1:21:01 PM UTC-7, StephenJ wrote:
> It was neither year. Sabby had a terrible serve, and her second serve
> was often 40 mph. It was pathetic.
...
> It was neither year. Sabby had a terrible serve, and her second serve
> was often 40 mph. It was pathetic.
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 21, 2017, 9:18:43 PM9/21/17
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Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
Schultz (aged 37) hit 130 mph about 10 years later, with modern racket equipment.
So peak Sabatini with a modern racket would most certainly serve with about 115 to 120 mph today. Which would rank her among the fastest servers of today's top players.
So please stop blabbering your Trumpist prejudices for once!
1995
1-Brenda Schultz McCarthy (Ned) 189.9 U. S. Open
2-Jana Novotna (Czech Rep.) 175.4 U. S. Open
2-Mariaan De Swardt (South Africa) 175.4 U. S. Open
2-Debbie Graham (USA) 175.4 Key Biscayne
5-Helena Sukova (Czech Rep.) 173.8 U. S. Open
6-Steffi Graf (Germany) 172.2 Key Biscayne
6-Steffi Graf (Germany) 172.2 Wimbledon
6-Monica Seles (USA) 172.2 U. S. Open
8-Kristie Boogert (Ned) 172 Australian Open
9-Angélica Gavaldón (Mexico) 170.6 U. S. Open
10-Irina Spirlea (Romania) 170 Australian Open
11-Yayuk Basuki (Indonesia) 169 Australian Open
12-Gigi Fernandez (USA) 168.9 U. S. Open
13-Miriam Oremans (Ned) 168 Sydney
14-María José Gaidano (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
Max
StephenJ
Sep 21, 2017, 10:44:28 PM9/21/17
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>On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
> Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
> Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
> Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
> 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
LMAO !!!!
Pathetic Max, as usual.
As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
up the fool.
BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 22, 2017, 2:56:04 AM9/22/17
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Fact is that Sabby served faster than 100 mph in years when young Brenda Schultz served with 115 mph. ALL players served faster in the 00s than in the early 90s. Brenda hit a record 130 mph (in a quali round) at age 37. Even Steffi Graf hits faster today than 25 years ago!
Jana Novotna (who served up to 118 mph in the 90s) would be among the fastest today.
I have played tennis in the 80s, 90s, 00s and today. To suggest that the rackets are virtually the same only shows that you are a typical couch tennis fan who has never played the game.
Hey, nice Julia Görges from Germany served with 126 mph a few years ago. Do you really think she is a better server than peak Graf ....?
I mean, seriously ... ??
Max
soccerfan777
Sep 22, 2017, 11:59:58 AM9/22/17
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On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:44:28 PM UTC-5, StephenJ wrote:
> >On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>
> > Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
> > Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
>
> > 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
>
> Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
>
> So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
> not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
>
> LMAO !!!!
>
> Pathetic Max, as usual.
>
> As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
> why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
> and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
> up the fool.
>
> BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
>
Do you think Steffi had some physical impediment which disallowed her to serve big serves as Serena? Steffi had great technique and was strong as well. And was considered a great server back in the day. She didnt hit as many aces as Serena, but hit a lot of unreturnable serves.
> >On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>
> > Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
> > Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
>
> > 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
>
> Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
>
> So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
> not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
>
> LMAO !!!!
>
> Pathetic Max, as usual.
>
> As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
> why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
> and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
> up the fool.
>
> BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
>
Go watch the 1995 USO final against Seles. Steffi was on fire that day and hit a bunch of aces. You are a known Graf hater and a well-know liar on top of being a xenophobic douchebag; so logical discussion with you is impossible.
soccerfan777
Sep 22, 2017, 12:13:02 PM9/22/17
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*skriptis
Sep 22, 2017, 3:43:22 PM9/22/17
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soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
Him xenophobic? lol
I'm not sure, but my impression is he's the type who thinks
importing bunch of people from all over the world can/would make
them Americans as long as they pledge to constitution or that due
to the time spent there they would ultimately become
ones.
But people like you who moved to America and call old stock
Americans like Jeff Sessions and their values scumbags, can never
assimilate, because you're racist and you reject the values and
people of the country you moved to. You can't fool me.
Otoh Stephen ie his views would be the first ones sanctioned under
true xenophobic regime, because of his dangerous naivety and
idealism, which would be consider traitorous by actual
xenophobes. And in a violent or brutal regime he even gets
imprisoned for not being xenophobic.
So your post is failed, as many previous were.
I'm not sure, but my impression is he's the type who thinks
importing bunch of people from all over the world can/would make
them Americans as long as they pledge to constitution or that due
to the time spent there they would ultimately become
ones.
But people like you who moved to America and call old stock
Americans like Jeff Sessions and their values scumbags, can never
assimilate, because you're racist and you reject the values and
people of the country you moved to. You can't fool me.
Otoh Stephen ie his views would be the first ones sanctioned under
true xenophobic regime, because of his dangerous naivety and
idealism, which would be consider traitorous by actual
xenophobes. And in a violent or brutal regime he even gets
imprisoned for not being xenophobic.
So your post is failed, as many previous were.
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 22, 2017, 4:26:38 PM9/22/17
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Lol ....
BTW, Sessions' values or Maxine Waters' values?
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 22, 2017, 4:29:12 PM9/22/17
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He is an American supremacist. Suffered a lot because of this German woman, Steffi Graf.
Max
Carey
Sep 22, 2017, 4:31:05 PM9/22/17
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soccerfan777
Sep 22, 2017, 4:55:36 PM9/22/17
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The Iceberg
Sep 22, 2017, 7:05:27 PM9/22/17
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Racist - somebody whose opinion they disagree with.
Nazi - somebody whose opinion they really disagree with.
*skriptis
Sep 22, 2017, 7:37:43 PM9/22/17
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Carey <carey...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
I didn't call him that, Raja did.
I don't know much about him in fact I've only heard of him last
year, but reading stuff and following politics I never got an
idea he's a scumbag.
Imo he seems like some kind of old gentleman's type. The guy
recused himself from those Russia hoax investigations, even
though he wasn't obliged to do so. He seems honorable.
I certainly didn't get an impression he's a scumbag. Would you say
a few words on that, I appreciate your view. Very short, no need
for much.
Because Raja was all about saying he's scumbag because he's an old
stock American having some conservative values. That's racist and
primitive so I had to criticise him.
I don't know much about him in fact I've only heard of him last
year, but reading stuff and following politics I never got an
idea he's a scumbag.
Imo he seems like some kind of old gentleman's type. The guy
recused himself from those Russia hoax investigations, even
though he wasn't obliged to do so. He seems honorable.
I certainly didn't get an impression he's a scumbag. Would you say
a few words on that, I appreciate your view. Very short, no need
for much.
Because Raja was all about saying he's scumbag because he's an old
stock American having some conservative values. That's racist and
primitive so I had to criticise him.
soccerfan777
Sep 22, 2017, 8:47:22 PM9/22/17
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Dipshit you don't know shit about anything...especially American politics. Just shut the fuck up and continue sucking Putin off
heyg...@gmail.com
Sep 23, 2017, 9:06:19 AM9/23/17
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Graf didn't even make the top 20 fastest serves in 1999 when she won a slam. She didn't hit a serve 173kph in a year when Venus was hitting 197kph. And you think she was going to add 15kph to her serve 2000 on? lol
In terms of physical impediments, a player with off and on back issues whose fastest serve wasn't even as big as Seles' probably isn't ever going to serve as big as Serena...
soccerfan777
Sep 23, 2017, 9:44:38 AM9/23/17
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We are talking about peak Graf until 1996 not 1999 Graf who was practically semi retired
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 23, 2017, 11:12:40 AM9/23/17
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When even Julia Görges types serve with up to 125 mph?
Lol
Let me guess - you are American?
Max
heyg...@gmail.com
Sep 23, 2017, 12:27:24 PM9/23/17
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 23, 2017, 3:14:08 PM9/23/17
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Max
Whisper
Sep 24, 2017, 5:45:07 AM9/24/17
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best we've ever seen in tennis. I think she ran a qualifying time for
100m Olympics? Serena is strong, but a very slow mover compared to the
likes of Graf. You think Davenport is Olympic quality athlete?
Looks like quality of rst analysis is getting dumber by the day - this
could be the equivalent of Sampras' 2001 - rockbottom, dumbest ever in rst.
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Sep 24, 2017, 5:51:09 AM9/24/17
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retirement due to racket/string technology.
Rst 'analysts' think it's just today's player are better athletes due to
nutrition/training.
I like to start my day reading some pearls of wisdom in rst.
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Sep 24, 2017, 10:24:12 AM9/24/17
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:59:55 -0700 (PDT), soccerfan777
<zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:44:28 PM UTC-5, StephenJ wrote:
>> >On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
>> > Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
>>
>> > 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
>>
>> Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
>>
>> So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
>> not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
>>
>> LMAO !!!!
>>
>> Pathetic Max, as usual.
>>
>> As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
>> why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
>> and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
>> up the fool.
>>
>> BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
>>
>
>Do you think Steffi had some physical impediment which disallowed her to serve big serves as Serena?
serena has about 50lbs on her for starters.
<zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:44:28 PM UTC-5, StephenJ wrote:
>> >On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
>> > Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
>>
>> > 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
>>
>> Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
>>
>> So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
>> not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
>>
>> LMAO !!!!
>>
>> Pathetic Max, as usual.
>>
>> As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
>> why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
>> and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
>> up the fool.
>>
>> BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
>>
>
>Do you think Steffi had some physical impediment which disallowed her to serve big serves as Serena?
bob
bob
Sep 24, 2017, 10:25:24 AM9/24/17
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bob
heyg...@gmail.com
Sep 24, 2017, 11:12:01 AM9/24/17
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Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
soccerfan777
Sep 24, 2017, 6:21:46 PM9/24/17
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On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 10:12:01 AM UTC-5, heyg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
Since when serve speed matters??? Neither Sampras or Ivanisevic had the fastest serves yet they were the best servers on tour and frequently hit 20 plus aces per match.
> Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
Whisper
Sep 25, 2017, 7:33:41 AM9/25/17
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On 25/09/2017 1:11 AM, heyg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
>
>
Athletes like Graf/Nadal can always serve a lot bigger than they do.
> Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
>
>
They just aren't focussed on it like 1 dimensional players ala Davenport
who has minimal other options.
Gracchus
Sep 25, 2017, 11:48:59 AM9/25/17
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On Monday, September 25, 2017 at 4:33:41 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
> On 25/09/2017 1:11 AM, heyg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
> Athletes like Graf/Nadal can always serve a lot bigger than they do.
> They just aren't focussed on it like 1 dimensional players ala Davenport
> who has minimal other options.
That makes sense. It's so much more fun to spend two minutes grinding out a point instead of hitting a boring 'ol ace.
> On 25/09/2017 1:11 AM, heyg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
> Athletes like Graf/Nadal can always serve a lot bigger than they do.
> They just aren't focussed on it like 1 dimensional players ala Davenport
> who has minimal other options.
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 25, 2017, 1:47:53 PM9/25/17
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On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 5:12:01 PM UTC+2, heyg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
Speed is.
> Doesn't Davenport have an olympic gold? Wouldn't that make her an Olympic elite athlete? ;-) Davenport is way more built for big serving than Graf. Last I checked foot speed and serving weren't correlated.
Max
calim...@gmx.de
Sep 25, 2017, 1:50:58 PM9/25/17
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How come, son?
Max
StephenJ
Sep 26, 2017, 8:38:52 AM9/26/17
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On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 1:56:04 AM UTC-5, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
In the 1990s, the sisters were obviously using 1990s rackets, as they were playing in the 1990s. It's not possible that they were using 2010 rackets in the 1990s, unless they had a time machine that allowed them to move 10-15 years in to the future, but them, then travel back. So they were using the same rackets as Graf, Sabby, ASV, Novotna, etc. They had to be.
There's no way around that Max. Sorry about that. :(
> On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 4:44:28 AM UTC+2, StephenJ wrote:
> > >On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
> > > Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
> >
> > > 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
> >
> > Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
> >
> > So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
> > not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
> >
> > LMAO !!!!
> >
> > Pathetic Max, as usual.
> >
> > As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
> > why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
> > and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
> > up the fool.
> >
> > BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > >On 9/21/2017 8:18 PM, calim...@gmx.de wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, 1995. Sabby top 15 with 167.3 kph. 104 mph.
> > > Brenda Schultz as #1 with 189.9 kph. Which is about 118 mph.
> >
> > > 14-Gabriela Sabatini (Arg) 167.3 U. S. Open
> >
> > Bwaawhawhahwhawhaw !!!!
> >
> > So in ALL those years, Sabby managed to hit ONE serve at 104 mph. That's
> > not an average for an event, but ONE serve in all her years out there?
> >
> > LMAO !!!!
> >
> > Pathetic Max, as usual.
> >
> > As for "modern equipment", 1990s equipment WAS modern you dummy! That's
> > why Serena and Venus were blasting serves between 115 - 120 mph in 1998
> > and 1999! We already covered that ground, and as usual, you were showed
> > up the fool.
> >
> > BYE BYE STEFFI !!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
> The players who had started they careers in the 80s generally played with different rackets in 1995 than the Willies (both freaks of nature with lots if >testosterone) played in 1998/99.
> > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
In the 1990s, the sisters were obviously using 1990s rackets, as they were playing in the 1990s. It's not possible that they were using 2010 rackets in the 1990s, unless they had a time machine that allowed them to move 10-15 years in to the future, but them, then travel back. So they were using the same rackets as Graf, Sabby, ASV, Novotna, etc. They had to be.
There's no way around that Max. Sorry about that. :(
StephenJ
Sep 26, 2017, 8:43:00 AM9/26/17
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On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 2:43:22 PM UTC-5, *skriptis wrote:
My only issue is that it be done legally, through our lawfully enacted policies.
Guypers
Sep 26, 2017, 9:55:21 AM9/26/17
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*skriptis
Sep 26, 2017, 10:00:44 AM9/26/17
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Guypers <gap...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
Columbus
was a conqueror on behalf of Spanish monarchy.
Are you saying modern uncontrolled mass immigration is a form of
conquest?
Well, congratulations, you got it right.
was a conqueror on behalf of Spanish monarchy.
Are you saying modern uncontrolled mass immigration is a form of
conquest?
Well, congratulations, you got it right.
TT
Sep 26, 2017, 10:04:04 AM9/26/17
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calim...@gmx.de
Sep 26, 2017, 10:04:25 AM9/26/17
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No, just no.
They weren't using the same rackets as Steffi.
But since when are Trumpers disturbed by facts ... ?
Max
The Iceberg
Sep 26, 2017, 10:29:07 AM9/26/17
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It is quite funny when we're told here that the modern players are fitter and faster than Steffi Graf cos of their nutrition and serve speeds.
soccerfan777
Sep 26, 2017, 10:39:51 AM9/26/17
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soccerfan777
Sep 26, 2017, 10:41:54 AM9/26/17
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Guypers
Sep 26, 2017, 12:25:40 PM9/26/17
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The Iceberg
Sep 26, 2017, 1:20:15 PM9/26/17
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Every time Trump tries to do something, you go rioting.
*skriptis
Sep 27, 2017, 7:56:28 AM9/27/17
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the natives. They just brought many diseases with them.
So it was non violent globalisation that exterminated most natives
on American continent.
Food for thought.
Guypers
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