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I didn't know Taylor Fritz got divorced.

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PeteWasLucky

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Mar 19, 2022, 7:41:24 PM3/19/22
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Gracchus

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Mar 19, 2022, 11:22:12 PM3/19/22
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On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/

> The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child.

Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...

PeteWasLucky

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Mar 19, 2022, 11:41:04 PM3/19/22
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Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...

I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)

This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg

TT

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Mar 20, 2022, 6:57:02 AM3/20/22
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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 20.3.2022 klo 5:41:
> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...
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> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)
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> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg
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If he was in such marital bliss then why were they divorced...

The Iceberg

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Mar 20, 2022, 7:08:47 AM3/20/22
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On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...
> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)
>
> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg

didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!

Court_1

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Mar 20, 2022, 3:57:17 PM3/20/22
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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber. wrote:
> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Gracchus <grac... Wrote in message:r
> > > On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...
> > I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)
> >
> > This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg
> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!

Why bizarre? An 18 year old has no business getting married and then having a kid right away. It's stupid for anyone at that age let alone a good looking kid who is also a well-known tennis professional(at least in the US.) It's a recipe for disaster.

*skriptis

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Mar 20, 2022, 4:17:21 PM3/20/22
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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber. wrote:> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > Gracchus <grac... Wrote in message:r > > > On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream... > > I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :) > > > > This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!Why bizarre? An 18 year old has no business getting married and then having a kid right away. It's stupid for anyone at that age let alone a good looking kid who is also a well-known tennis professional(at least in the US.) It's a recipe for disaster.


lol

RaspingDrive

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Mar 20, 2022, 6:16:35 PM3/20/22
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You have been busy waging your fights over the usual stuff. I have been following Fritz and knew it a few days back.

grif

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Mar 20, 2022, 8:35:13 PM3/20/22
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Wow, I knew before you! I knew about his early marriage and think his divorce was mentioned a while back. Last year, I noticed he was starting to play well and produce good, consistent results. There was also an article about his gaming interests. There's a similar one for Schwartzman too.
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fritz-video-games-indian-wells-2021-feature
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/schwartzman-gamers-2022

RaspingDrive

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Mar 20, 2022, 11:00:27 PM3/20/22
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I'm sure you have followed him more :) I have often noted how he fought valiantly in many matches against great players. This time, he was battling as usual but was prevailing in close three setters. The serve, FH, BH, and his general confidence level seemed high. His trophy ceremony speech was fun. He got a great voice, IMO. When he says Rafa, the guy who he have watched while growing, Rafa quietly was looking down at his feet obviously pissed he lost. Then when Fritz says 'one of the greatest if not the greatest', you should see Nadal, not liking salt being rubbed into his festering wound. Rafa looked like an old guy at the trophy ceremony. But he wants to continue playing at IW for at least two more years.

Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.

PeteWasLucky

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Mar 20, 2022, 11:21:27 PM3/20/22
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Nadal is a great champion, and no, he doesn't care about being called the greatest ever or whatever.
He is very modest, great fighter, loves the sport and is great for the sport.

Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 12:52:14 AM3/21/22
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But he said he wants to finish with the most slams. He knows goat
debate can go on forever for various reasons, but 'most slams won' is an
objective measure. eg we can wank on 'he woulda/coulda won less or more
slams in other eras' blah blah, but we can't debate the 21. That's a fact.


PeteWasLucky

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Mar 21, 2022, 1:15:48 AM3/21/22
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Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
> On 21/03/2022 2:21 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:00:27 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:>>> On 20/03/2022 22:16, RaspingDrive wrote:>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>>>> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...>>>>>> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)>>>>>>>>>>>> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg>>>>> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!>>>>>>>> You have been busy waging your fights over the usual stuff. I have been following Fritz and knew it a few days back.>>> Wow, I knew before you! I knew about his early marriage and think his divorce was mentioned a while back. Last year, I noticed he was starting to play well and produce good, consistent results. There was also an article about his gaming interests. There's a similar one for Schwartzman too.>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fritz-video-games-indian-wells-2021-feature>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/schwartzman-gamers-2022>> I'm sure you have followed him more :) I have often noted how he fought valiantly in many matches against great players. This time, he was battling as usual but was prevailing in close three setters. The serve, FH, BH, and his general confidence level seemed high. His trophy ceremony speech was fun. He got a great voice, IMO. When he says Rafa, the guy who he have watched while growing, Rafa quietly was looking down at his feet obviously pissed he lost. Then when Fritz says 'one of the greatest if not the greatest', you should see Nadal, not liking salt being rubbed into his festering wound. Rafa looked like an old guy at the trophy ceremony. But he wants to continue playing at IW for at least two more years.>>>> Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.> > Nadal is a great champion, and no, he doesn't care about being called the greatest ever or whatever.> He is very modest, great fighter, loves the sport and is great for the sport.But he said he wants to finish with the most slams. He knows goat debate can go on forever for various reasons, but 'most slams won' is an objective measure. eg we can wank on 'he woulda/coulda won less or more slams in other eras' blah blah, but we can't debate the 21. That's a fact.

He is a champion, he wants to have the record, but he is modest
and he isn't an ah like Djokovic.

Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 3:16:51 AM3/21/22
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I thought you liked Djoker?

Anyway yes I think we all see now how dumb Djoker is with his strong
anti vax stance, willing to forego slam glory for absolutely nothing lol : )

I had a a dinner party on the weekend and even non tennis people were
confused with his decisions. All you can say is he's not that smart, no
crime in it. Fantastic tennis player though.

The Iceberg

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Mar 21, 2022, 6:51:35 AM3/21/22
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yes was going to say Fritz's voice is well good! he could do good adverts :D
Nadal just won the AO like 6 weeks ago.

The Iceberg

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Mar 21, 2022, 7:11:32 AM3/21/22
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yes very true, the Marxist trolls have been taking up lot of time round here recently. It tough cos they get paid by the democrats and Soros and I only do it for freedom and for the good and decent posters out there.

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 10:41:36 AM3/21/22
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The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to it.

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 10:44:30 AM3/21/22
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All I'm saying is that it is likely to get more and more difficult for Nadal from here on. He had his fair share of escapades on HC that have ended with his loss to Fritz. A come-from-behind-two-sets win at AO, and several close encounters at IW. And he appears to be seriously injured as well. let's see

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 10:46:15 AM3/21/22
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Your so-called good and decent posters can take care of themselves!

Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 11:24:16 AM3/21/22
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How does Djoker know his body? He has no idea what's going on in there,
same as you and me.

Pelle Svanslös

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Mar 21, 2022, 11:49:03 AM3/21/22
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Soon they'll have to have an ambulance nearby whenever Rafa plays.

--
“We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t
have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to
him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.
-- Nikki Haley

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 1:55:51 PM3/21/22
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1. I'll take your word that you are in the upper 0.5% of financial wizards, quite a super-elite category. However, that's where my good-faith acceptance of your talents stops! You are no elite Tennis player a la Djokovic. Shall we agree on that? :)
2. Djoker has not complained of breathlessness and chest pain so he seems to have addressed his initial days breathlessness problem. Credit to him for finding a solution that allowed him to establish his greatness. Obviously he is able to control what went inside his system and continues to profit by that.
3. He probably feels inviting strange things into his system that the majority can accommodate (and continue doing their mundane chores) will not work well for him to keep him at the upper 0.0005% elite level.
4. If it works for him, who are we to quibble? :)

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 1:57:49 PM3/21/22
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Who knows. I wish him speedy recovery. Breathlessness and chest pain are not to be taken lightly.

Gracchus

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Mar 21, 2022, 2:20:58 PM3/21/22
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I assume it was *muscular* chest pain. They would have halted the match immediately if the doctor suspected he was having a heart attack.

The annoying aspect of this is that journalists writing about it all want to give Nadal a gold star and purple jellybean because he finished the match. Hardly anyone mentions that Fritz was struggling with an injury concerning enough that Annacone and the rest of his team strongly advised him not to even take the court yesterday.

Also, it was already a matter of record that Nadal had asked for the doctor and physio during the match. IMO it's not the best form for him to go on in detail about his difficulties post-match and then add, "Oh, but Taylor played great too."

The Iceberg

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Mar 21, 2022, 2:23:35 PM3/21/22
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surely it's a case that he doesn't need to take it, so why should he. Nobody here takes the rabbies vax just cos CNN says that you should, do they?

PeteWasLucky

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Mar 21, 2022, 2:28:53 PM3/21/22
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RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:49:03 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 21/03/2022 16.41, RaspingDrive wrote: > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 3:16:51 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: > >> On 21/03/2022 4:15 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >>> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r > >>>> On 21/03/2022 2:21 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:00:27 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:>>> On 20/03/2022 22:16, RaspingDrive wrote:>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>>>> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...>>>>>> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)>>>>>>>>>>>> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg>>>>> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!>>>>>>>> You have been busy waging your fights over the usual stuff. I have been following Fritz and knew it a few days back.>>> Wow, I knew before you! I knew about his early marriage and think his divorce was mentioned a while back. Last year, I noticed he was starting to play well and produce good, consistent results. There was also an article about his gaming interests. There's a similar one for Schwartzman too.>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fritz-video-games-indian-wells-2021-feature>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/schwartzman-gamers-2022>> I'm sure you have followed him more :) I have often noted how he fought valiantly in many matches against great players. This time, he was battling as usual but was prevailing in close three setters. The serve, FH, BH, and his general confidence level seemed high. His trophy ceremony speech was fun. He got a great voice, IMO. When he says Rafa, the guy who he have watched while growing, Rafa quietly was looking down at his feet obviously pissed he lost. Then when Fritz says 'one of the greatest if not the greatest', you should see Nadal, not liking salt being rubbed into his festering wound. Rafa looked like an old guy at the trophy ceremony. But he wants to continue playing at IW for at least two more years.>>>> Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.> > Nadal is a great champion, and no, he doesn't care about being called the greatest ever or whatever.> He is very modest, great fighter, loves the sport and is great for the sport.But he said he wants to finish with the most slams. He knows goat debate can go on forever for various reasons, but 'most slams won' is an objective measure. eg we can wank on 'he woulda/coulda won less or more slams in other eras' blah blah, but we can't debate the 21. That's a fact. > >>> > >>> He is a champion, he wants to have the record, but he is modest > >>> and he isn't an ah like Djokovic. > >> I thought you liked Djoker? > >> > >> Anyway yes I think we all see now how dumb Djoker is with his strong > >> anti vax stance, willing to forego slam glory for absolutely nothing lol : ) > >> > >> I had a a dinner party on the weekend and even non tennis people were > >> confused with his decisions. All you can say is he's not that smart, no > >> crime in it. Fantastic tennis player though. > > > > The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some chest pain as well.> Soon they'll have to have an ambulance nearby whenever Rafa plays. Who knows. I wish him speedy recovery. Breathlessness and chest pain are not to be taken lightly.

lol, it's Rafa, we know what he does and how he complains. I am
sure he would have played three more hours if he needed
to.

You are comparing him to djok that isn't playing anything
currently, you need to learn to pick your battles
:)

The Iceberg

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Mar 21, 2022, 2:31:51 PM3/21/22
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no they are like the innocent people of the Ukraine that have been tricked 24/7 exposure to CNN!

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 3:07:27 PM3/21/22
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The final retrieve that Nadal did at the Fritz match point (tie break) was enough for me. A deeply injured person would try that? So I am in agreement with the general tenor of your message. Fritz deserves his win and he beat Nadal squarely. At a Masters final. Very very impressive. Being injured himself.

One must admit that Nadal has had success with his nothing-to-lose approach. It lets him try his best and, if it doesn't work, he can always take recourse to some bodily malaise being the reason for the loss!!

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 3:11:11 PM3/21/22
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That's a different argument, and probably has merit. But I am referring to common folks going on about how it is just a minor prick and that it shouldn't cause much harm. Djoker is no ordinary person. Plus he is into things that many don't venture (abstemious, yoga and all that). So best not to pillory him.

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 3:12:09 PM3/21/22
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What battle? It's unclear what you are saying.

RaspingDrive

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Mar 21, 2022, 3:12:43 PM3/21/22
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If you say so. Continue. It doesn't affect me.

grif

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Mar 21, 2022, 7:35:23 PM3/21/22
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It's kinda amazing what Fritz did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Qukn94TIg

Court_1

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Mar 21, 2022, 9:00:00 PM3/21/22
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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:00:27 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:

> Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.

Who's going to end it though? Djokovic?

Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 9:30:43 PM3/21/22
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I agree, but it hasn't harmed any other elite athlete in the world - eg
Nadal playing amazing at 36.

In Djopker's case it is psychological - if he thinks it will do him harm
then that alone may make him play worse.

My point is he has no idea what's going on in his body. I know people
who were diagnosed with cancer and had no warning, in perfect shape and
feeling great.

Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 9:31:17 PM3/21/22
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Shane Warne complained of chest pains a few weeks ago.


Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 9:34:44 PM3/21/22
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I agree, but in his case he has everything to lose legacy wise. Seems
to be too high a price to pay for something billions of people take
every day.

Whisper

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Mar 21, 2022, 9:38:20 PM3/21/22
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PWL only has time to skim read these days so responses are often guesses : )

PeteWasLucky

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Mar 21, 2022, 10:43:18 PM3/21/22
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Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
> On 22/03/2022 6:12 am, RaspingDrive wrote:> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 2:28:53 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:49:03 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 21/03/2022 16.41, RaspingDrive wrote: > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 3:16:51 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: > >> On 21/03/2022 4:15 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >>> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r > >>>> On 21/03/2022 2:21 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:00:27 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:>>> On 20/03/2022 22:16, RaspingDrive wrote:>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>>>> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...>>>>>> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)>>>>>>>>>>>> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg>>>>> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!>>>>>>>> You have been busy waging your fights over the usual stuff. I have been following Fritz and knew it a few days back.>>> Wow, I knew before you! I knew about his early marriage and think his divorce was mentioned a while back. Last year, I noticed he was starting to play well and produce good, consistent results. There was also an article about his gaming interests. There's a similar one for Schwartzman too.>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fritz-video-games-indian-wells-2021-feature>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/schwartzman-gamers-2022>> I'm sure you have followed him more :) I have often noted how he fought valiantly in many matches against great players. This time, he was battling as usual but was prevailing in close three setters. The serve, FH, BH, and his general confidence level seemed high. His trophy ceremony speech was fun. He got a great voice, IMO. When he says Rafa, the guy who he have watched while growing, Rafa quietly was looking down at his feet obviously pissed he lost. Then when Fritz says 'one of the greatest if not the greatest', you should see Nadal, not liking salt being rubbed into his festering wound. Rafa looked like an old guy at the trophy ceremony. But he wants to continue playing at IW for at least two more years.>>>> Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.> > Nadal is a great champion, and no, he doesn't care about being called the greatest ever or whatever.> He is very modest, great fighter, loves the sport and is great for the sport.But he said he wants to finish with the most slams. He knows goat debate can go on forever for various reasons, but 'most slams won' is an objective measure. eg we can wank on 'he woulda/coulda won less or more slams in other eras' blah blah, but we can't debate the 21. That's a fact. > >>> > >>> He is a champion, he wants to have the record, but he is modest > >>> and he isn't an ah like Djokovic. > >> I thought you liked Djoker? > >> > >> Anyway yes I think we all see now how dumb Djoker is with his strong > >> anti vax stance, willing to forego slam glory for absolutely nothing lol : ) > >> > >> I had a a dinner party on the weekend and even non tennis people were > >> confused with his decisions. All you can say is he's not that smart, no > >> crime in it. Fantastic tennis player though. > > > > The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some chest pain as well.> Soon they'll have to have an ambulance nearby whenever Rafa plays. Who knows. I wish him speedy recovery. Breathlessness and chest pain are not to be taken lightly.>> lol, it's Rafa, we know what he does and how he complains. I am>> sure he would have played three more hours if he needed>> to.>>>> You are comparing him to djok that isn't playing anything>> currently, you need to learn to pick your battles>> :)> > What battle? It's unclear what you are saying.PWL only has time to skim read these days so responses are often guesses : )

Did you read his post?

He said "The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some
chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but
I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's
taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to
it.".

He is mentioning Nadal chest pain in the match and is pairing it
with the vax to state later that Djok knows his body very
well.

Court_1

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On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:43:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:


> Did you read his post?
>
> He said "The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some
> chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but
> I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's
> taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to
> it.".
>
> He is mentioning Nadal chest pain in the match and is pairing it
> with the vax to state later that Djok knows his body very
> well.

He may know his body very well and it's his choice what goes inside it but he knows little about science or medicine. At the end of the day, every drug we consume has some side effect. To me, Djokovic's staunch anti-vax stance seems hypocritical from a guy who went from retiring from countless matches to the 2011 superman version. Please don't tell me no gluten is responsible for that miraculous transformation alone because the very idea of it is laughable.

Taking a vaccine is like a tiny pimple on an elephant's ass, i.e. no big deal. There are things we ingest on a daily basis that are probably worse than any vaccine side effects(sugar, chemicals, over the counter drugs, prescription drugs, etc.)

Also, since the covid vaccines came out, every time a vaccinated person has any kind of niggle or slight ailment the anti-vax nutters claim, "it's due to the vaccine!" Bob Saget gets his head bashed in by somebody in a murderous rage and the anti-vax clowns say, "it must have been the vaccine!" Nadal has a pain in his chest(clearly a muscle pull from his Alcaraz match) and the anti-vax lunatics claim, "it must be the adverse effects of the vaccine!"

If Djokovic ends up losing the slam race over his reluctance to take the mostly benign vaccines, it'll be plain dumb! There's no way around it.


guypers

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Mar 21, 2022, 11:16:21 PM3/21/22
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Bob Saget was murdered?!?!

PeteWasLucky

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guypers <gap...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:13:48 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:43:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > > > Did you read his post? > > > > He said "The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some > > chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but > > I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's > > taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to > > it.". > > > > He is mentioning Nadal chest pain in the match and is pairing it > > with the vax to state later that Djok knows his body very > > well.> He may know his body very well and it's his choice what goes inside it but he knows little about science or medicine. At the end of the day, every drug we consume has some side effect. To me, Djokovic's staunch anti-vax stance seems hypocritical from a guy who went from retiring from countless matches to the 2011 superman version. Please don't tell me no gluten is responsible for that miraculous transformation alone because the very idea of it is laughable. > > Taking a vaccine is like a tiny pimple on an elephant's ass, i.e. no big deal. There are things we ingest on a daily basis that are probably worse than any vaccine side effects(sugar, chemicals, over the counter drugs, prescription drugs, etc.) > > Also, since the covid vaccines came out, every time a vaccinated person has any kind of niggle or slight ailment the anti-vax nutters claim, "it's due to the vaccine!" Bob Saget gets his head bashed in by somebody in a murderous rage and the anti-vax clowns say, "it must have been the vaccine!" Nadal has a pain in his chest(clearly a muscle pull from his Alcaraz match) and the anti-vax lunatics claim, "it must be the adverse effects of the vaccine!" > > If Djokovic ends up losing the slam race over his reluctance to take the mostly benign vaccines, it'll be plain dumb! There's no way around it.Bob Saget was murdered?!?!

No, he just fell backwards in his hotel room crushing his skull to
death, magically.

Court_1

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Mar 21, 2022, 11:20:55 PM3/21/22
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His head was smashed like a watermelon falling from 40 feet. That was no simple accidental fall where he then got up and calmly put himself to bed.

Whisper

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Mar 22, 2022, 4:45:39 AM3/22/22
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Yep. Kinda hoping more slams have a vax mandate to further test
Djoker's level of dumbness : )

The Iceberg

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Mar 22, 2022, 7:04:31 AM3/22/22
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you only took the vax to comply with Pfizer's orders, Djoker refused to.

The Iceberg

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Mar 22, 2022, 7:05:23 AM3/22/22
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the coroner's verdict disagrees. Why is that?

The Iceberg

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Mar 22, 2022, 7:16:44 AM3/22/22
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if he kept missing slams for this reason would agree, but think he prob gambled that by the time Wimbledon came along all this vax nonsense would be a thing of the past. He would've almost definitely heard our attitude over here and how we have moved on from it all. Like most people he prob didn't think Nadal would win the AO and the FO would be a lottery. He may well want to be a Serbian politician in future, so his stance wil help that in the long run.

Have to say even New Zealand now going to let unvaxed people visit, 4th booster anyone? anyone? why is everyone like Gracchus and jdeluise ignoring the science now?

guypers

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Mar 22, 2022, 8:27:13 AM3/22/22
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Any links?

Whisper

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Mar 22, 2022, 10:56:57 AM3/22/22
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Yes, I'm sure he has other reasons he's not divulging at the present
time. Most Serbs are anti vax so that prob factors into his decision,
he's thinking of his options after tennis. Also he thought he'd be
playing AO after assurances from Tilley so I won't even count that one
against him, even though it was always a highly risky strategy but he's
used to getting what he wants so a new experience for him. He's not
getting his way and the tennis tour moves on without him no problems.


> Have to say even New Zealand now going to let unvaxed people visit, 4th booster anyone? anyone? why is everyone like Gracchus and jdeluise ignoring the science now?

Never know what can happen in the near future, new strains are popping
up : )

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 2:28:54 PM3/22/22
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Thanks for the video, grif.

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 2:30:01 PM3/22/22
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After FO someone will do it. Like Fritz at IW? I'm hoping it will be Federer at USO 2022 :)

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 2:32:28 PM3/22/22
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On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 9:30:43 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 4:55 am, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:24:16 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to it.
> >> How does Djoker know his body? He has no idea what's going on in there,
> >> same as you and me.
> >
> > 1. I'll take your word that you are in the upper 0.5% of financial wizards, quite a super-elite category. However, that's where my good-faith acceptance of your talents stops! You are no elite Tennis player a la Djokovic. Shall we agree on that? :)
> > 2. Djoker has not complained of breathlessness and chest pain so he seems to have addressed his initial days breathlessness problem. Credit to him for finding a solution that allowed him to establish his greatness. Obviously he is able to control what went inside his system and continues to profit by that.
> > 3. He probably feels inviting strange things into his system that the majority can accommodate (and continue doing their mundane chores) will not work well for him to keep him at the upper 0.0005% elite level.
> > 4. If it works for him, who are we to quibble? :)
> I agree, but it hasn't harmed any other elite athlete in the world - eg
> Nadal playing amazing at 36.

But Nadal and Djokovic are entirely different in their physical make-up.

> In Djopker's case it is psychological - if he thinks it will do him harm
> then that alone may make him play worse.

Arguable :)

> My point is he has no idea what's going on in his body. I know people
> who were diagnosed with cancer and had no warning, in perfect shape and
> feeling great.

Do you know someone as elite as Djokovic? All argument stops if you don't know :)

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 2:33:46 PM3/22/22
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Beefy Warney was a sitting duck for heart problem. Chain smoker who probably was least abstemious :)

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 2:34:26 PM3/22/22
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I have no clue what he is rambling on about most of the time.

RaspingDrive

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On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:43:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
> > On 22/03/2022 6:12 am, RaspingDrive wrote:> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 2:28:53 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:49:03 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 21/03/2022 16.41, RaspingDrive wrote: > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 3:16:51 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: > >> On 21/03/2022 4:15 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >>> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r > >>>> On 21/03/2022 2:21 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:00:27 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:>>> On 20/03/2022 22:16, RaspingDrive wrote:>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>>>> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...>>>>>> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)>>>>>>>>>>>> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg>>>>> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!>>>>>>>> You have been busy waging your fights over the usual stuff. I have been following Fritz and knew it a few days back.>>> Wow, I knew before you! I knew about his early marriage and think his divorce was mentioned a while back. Last year, I noticed he was starting to play well and produce good, consistent results. There was also an article about his gaming interests. There's a similar one for Schwartzman too.>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fritz-video-games-indian-wells-2021-feature>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/schwartzman-gamers-2022>> I'm sure you have followed him more :) I have often noted how he fought valiantly in many matches against great players. This time, he was battling as usual but was prevailing in close three setters. The serve, FH, BH, and his general confidence level seemed high. His trophy ceremony speech was fun. He got a great voice, IMO. When he says Rafa, the guy who he have watched while growing, Rafa quietly was looking down at his feet obviously pissed he lost. Then when Fritz says 'one of the greatest if not the greatest', you should see Nadal, not liking salt being rubbed into his festering wound. Rafa looked like an old guy at the trophy ceremony. But he wants to continue playing at IW for at least two more years.>>>> Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.> > Nadal is a great champion, and no, he doesn't care about being called the greatest ever or whatever.> He is very modest, great fighter, loves the sport and is great for the sport.But he said he wants to finish with the most slams. He knows goat debate can go on forever for various reasons, but 'most slams won' is an objective measure. eg we can wank on 'he woulda/coulda won less or more slams in other eras' blah blah, but we can't debate the 21. That's a fact. > >>> > >>> He is a champion, he wants to have the record, but he is modest > >>> and he isn't an ah like Djokovic. > >> I thought you liked Djoker? > >> > >> Anyway yes I think we all see now how dumb Djoker is with his strong > >> anti vax stance, willing to forego slam glory for absolutely nothing lol : ) > >> > >> I had a a dinner party on the weekend and even non tennis people were > >> confused with his decisions. All you can say is he's not that smart, no > >> crime in it. Fantastic tennis player though. > > > > The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some chest pain as well.> Soon they'll have to have an ambulance nearby whenever Rafa plays. Who knows. I wish him speedy recovery. Breathlessness and chest pain are not to be taken lightly.>> lol, it's Rafa, we know what he does and how he complains. I am>> sure he would have played three more hours if he needed>> to.>>>> You are comparing him to djok that isn't playing anything>> currently, you need to learn to pick your battles>> :)> > What battle? It's unclear what you are saying.PWL only has time to skim read these days so responses are often guesses : )
>
> Did you read his post?
>
> He said "The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some
> chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but
> I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's
> taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to
> it.".
>
> He is mentioning Nadal chest pain in the match and is pairing it
> with the vax to state later that Djok knows his body very
> well.
> --

poor surmise.

PeteWasLucky

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RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:43:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r> > On 22/03/2022 6:12 am, RaspingDrive wrote:> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 2:28:53 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:49:03 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 21/03/2022 16.41, RaspingDrive wrote: > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 3:16:51 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: > >> On 21/03/2022 4:15 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >>> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r > >>>> On 21/03/2022 2:21 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:00:27 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:>>> On 20/03/2022 22:16, RaspingDrive wrote:>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 7:08:47 AM UTC-4, iceber...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 03:41:04 UTC, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>>>> Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-all-about-taylor-fritz-his-marriage-and-his-divorce/ > The guy was living a dream, married at young age with a child. Young rich guy with loads of options ends up encumbered with a carping wife ordering him to change baby diapers. If that's a dream...>>>>>> I am sure he can afford a nanny if changing diapers is a big issue for him :)>>>>>>>>>>>> This is his family: https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Taylor-Fritz-with-wife-and-son.jpg>>>>> didn't know this either, bizarre thing to happen!>>>>>>>> You have been busy waging your fights over the usual stuff. I have been following Fritz and knew it a few days back.>>> Wow, I knew before you! I knew about his early marriage and think his divorce was mentioned a while back. Last year, I noticed he was starting to play well and produce good, consistent results. There was also an article about his gaming interests. There's a similar one for Schwartzman too.>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fritz-video-games-indian-wells-2021-feature>>> https://www.atptour.com/en/news/schwartzman-gamers-2022>> I'm sure you have followed him more :) I have often noted how he fought valiantly in many matches against great players. This time, he was battling as usual but was prevailing in close three setters. The serve, FH, BH, and his general confidence level seemed high. His trophy ceremony speech was fun. He got a great voice, IMO. When he says Rafa, the guy who he have watched while growing, Rafa quietly was looking down at his feet obviously pissed he lost. Then when Fritz says 'one of the greatest if not the greatest', you should see Nadal, not liking salt being rubbed into his festering wound. Rafa looked like an old guy at the trophy ceremony. But he wants to continue playing at IW for at least two more years.>>>> Here is my prediction: Nadal's super time is ending. He is likely to have a tough season here on.> > Nadal is a great champion, and no, he doesn't care about being called the greatest ever or whatever.> He is very modest, great fighter, loves the sport and is great for the sport.But he said he wants to finish with the most slams. He knows goat debate can go on forever for various reasons, but 'most slams won' is an objective measure. eg we can wank on 'he woulda/coulda won less or more slams in other eras' blah blah, but we can't debate the 21. That's a fact. > >>> > >>> He is a champion, he wants to have the record, but he is modest > >>> and he isn't an ah like Djokovic. > >> I thought you liked Djoker? > >> > >> Anyway yes I think we all see now how dumb Djoker is with his strong > >> anti vax stance, willing to forego slam glory for absolutely nothing lol : ) > >> > >> I had a a dinner party on the weekend and even non tennis people were > >> confused with his decisions. All you can say is he's not that smart, no > >> crime in it. Fantastic tennis player though. > > > > The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some chest pain as well.> Soon they'll have to have an ambulance nearby whenever Rafa plays. Who knows. I wish him speedy recovery. Breathlessness and chest pain are not to be taken lightly.>> lol, it's Rafa, we know what he does and how he complains. I am>> sure he would have played three more hours if he needed>> to.>>>> You are comparing him to djok that isn't playing anything>> currently, you need to learn to pick your battles>> :)> > What battle? It's unclear what you are saying.PWL only has time to skim read these days so responses are often guesses : ) > > Did you read his post? > > He said "The bull Nadal complained of breathlessness and some> chest pain as well. Not saying it is the vax that caused it, but > I think Djoker knows his body well more than you and me. He's > taken a decision and it is admirable he is sticking to> it.". > > He is mentioning Nadal chest pain in the match and is pairing it > with the vax to state later that Djok knows his body very > well.> -- poor surmise.



You mentioned three things out of the blue:

Nadal chest pain.
Not saying the Vax but...
Djok knows his body well.

How do we group these in one statement to make something meaningful?

What were you trying to say in that paragraph?

Were these random thoughts?

Court_1

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On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 9:00:00 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:

> > Who's going to end it though? Djokovic?

> After FO someone will do it. Like Fritz at IW?

It sure would be nice to see some younger players beating both Nadal and Djokovic at the FO. I mean enough is enough already with these useless younger guys.

Whisper

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Mar 22, 2022, 8:05:56 PM3/22/22
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I have silver medalists in my family : )

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 10:30:20 PM3/22/22
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Silver medalists who eschew gluten, meat etc, who are compulsive yoga practitioners, who are into healing techniques, and who can bend like a rubber? :)

RaspingDrive

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Mar 22, 2022, 10:31:28 PM3/22/22
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FO is most likely Nadal's, cracked rib or not :) I was referring to what comes after that.
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