saymek sourinthone dies in sleep
Mkwpong
Club has passed away.
Saymek, 23, was the oldest of the Sourinthone brothers (Jay, Lock, Noi) who
frequented tournaments across the Southeast.
Club members say he played at the club Wednesday night and complained of a
headache when he got home. He went to bed Wednesday night and never woke up.
Funeral arrangements are still pending. The Sourinthones address is 418 Lutie
Drive, Nashville, Tenn. 37210
Phone is 615-331-7325.
Saymek, a recent graduate of Middle Tennessee State University, had not played
in a USATT tourney since the Nashville Spring Open in 1999. In 1994, he played
in 19 sanctioned tournaments.
I will post funeral arrangements when they become available.
michael wetzel
MFBaltaxe
Larry Thoman
over an hour at the Wednesday club meeting. We had some great points and
I ended up winning at 17-15 in the last game. I did sense that something
was bothering him, however. He seemed a bit distant and distracted
throughout the night, although not so much during our playing time.
I've watched the four Sourinthone boys grow up playing at the Nashville
club since the late 80's. They all played a quick, powerful game and
were always the ones that challenged me the most at the club for the
last 10 years. Saymek was the oldest and was always polite and
well-mannered, although he gave no quarter when he was at the table. At
one time, I think he was among the top 10 or so in his age group in the
US.
Saymek should have won the state championship in (I believe) 1997 or so.
His younger brother Jay had knocked me out in the semi-finals. He played
a great match; one of those where I thought I played very good but he
played GREAT. Saymek made it to the finals on the other side, so the two
brothers met each other in the finals.
I never knew Jay to beat Saymek; I think it had something to do with the
pecking order of the brothers and probably something about respect for
an older sibling that is common in Oriental cultures. At any rate, Jay
officially won the match, but to this day, I swear that Saymek was asked
to let Jay win because Jay had scored the big upset. After the
tournament, I remember visiting their house and celebrating Jay's big
win with all of them and several other TT players.
I can't imagine what went wrong. I didn't know of any disease or
abnormality that Saymek had. I will miss him. This is a great loss to
the Nashville table tennis community.
Larry T.
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Larry Thoman, General Manager, Newgy Industries
805 Teal Drive, P.O. Box 959, Gallatin, TN 37066 USA
Phone (615) 452-6470, Fax (615) 230-9785, http://www.newgy.com
Larry Hodges
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> I've watched the four Sourinthone boys grow up playing at the Nashville
> club since the late 80's.
Here's a picture of the four Sourinthone brothers (with former USA Men's
Coach Li Zhenshi), which I'm guessing was taken around 1995. I believe
Saymek is on the far right.
http://www.larrytt.com/images/sourinthones_four.jpg
-Larry Hodges
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marco
medical standpoint, as to what went wrong. No healthy 23 year old is
supposed to pass suddenly like that. I hope that you can fill us in with
more details when they come out.
best wishes
marco
"Larry Thoman" <la...@newgy.com> wrote in message
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michael wetzel
Dear Table Tennis Friends,
As some of you have already learned, we lost one of our own this week.
Saymek Sourinthone (23) passed away in his sleep early Thursday morning, May
30, 2002. The cause of death is currently unknown.
Saymek was the oldest of the Sourinthone brothers (Jay, Lock, and Noi) and is
survived by his mother, Phaengsy Sourinthone, and his father, Boune (Peter)
Sourinthone. Saymek and his brothers have been avid table tennis players at
tournaments across the Southeast for the past 8 years. He will be deeply
missed by all who know him and his family.
Visitation will be held tomorrow (June 1, 2002) from 12p to 8p at Woodlawn
Funeral Home, 660 Thompson Lane, Nashville, TN 37204. The funeral will be
held on Sunday, June 2, 2002 at 2pm at their church, Crievewood Baptist
Church, 480 Hogan Road, Nashville, TN 37220. A burial service will be held
next Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 1pm at Woodlawn Funeral Home.
Saymek once wrote a poem (which his father recently found) that when he died,
he wanted everyone to celebrate his life and have a feast. His family
requests that everyone wear white shirts, and to avoid wearing black. This
is what we believe Saymek would want.
NTTC is collecting donations for the Sourinthone Family through June 8th,
2002. Most people are not aware that the Sourinthone Family went through
many trials to bring their family from Laos to the United States. Saymek is
the third child they have had to bury, and I am certain that they do not have
any insurance to cover the cost of Saymek's funeral. Please dig deep into
your pockets and help ease the burden for this grieving family. Checks can
be made payable to NTTC and mailed to NTTC, PO Box 22795, Nashville, TN
37202-2795. 100% of all moneys received will go directly to the Sourinthone
Family.
Any questions may be directed to Shaun or Jamie Stallings, 615-781-2323.
Sincerely,
Shaun O. Stallings
Nashville Table Tennis Club
Secretary
"marco" <cacco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<69ZJ8.24682$155.7...@news2.west.cox.net>...
BICENBKS
studying at the university I was in a film
class with the #1 girl player at Western
Michigan University. She didn't show up
for class one day and we found out she
had died in her sleep. She had practiced
very hard the day before.
FengYue
that's kinda scary. it may happen to any of us one day.
I usually get very bad headaces 2-3 hours later after my
long training (say 3+ hours training). anyone has the
same prob?
marco
pure water before, during, and after your training. Soda, gatorade, etc.
are all garbage.
marco
"FengYue" <fen...@bluerose.windmoon.nu> wrote in message
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DamienEloi
Passing at such a young age is truly a tragedy, for youth brings so
much potential. We will never know what he could have accomplished.
mkw...@aol.com (Mkwpong) wrote in message news:<20020531133324...@mb-cs.aol.com>...
Larry Hodges
> some people get headaches as a result of dehydration. Try drinking lots
of
> pure water before, during, and after your training. Soda, gatorade, etc.
> are all garbage.
> marco
Why do you believe this?
marco
with some artificial food coloring and flavor, etc. It really is unhealthy
to drink large quantities of gatorade.
Please don't make me explain why soda is bad.
To maintain water balance, the best drink is pure water. Some people even
advise drinking distilled water, though I think that sounds a little
unnecesary.
Like beer, coffee, etc. soda and gatorade add solutes such as salts and
sugars into your system (besides all the chemicals) and so even though you
are taking in liquid the ratio of liquid to dissolved solutes is not as high
as if you were to take in pure water.
marco
"Larry Hodges" <la...@larrytt.com> wrote in message
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FengYue
> some people get headaches as a result of dehydration. Try drinking lots of
> pure water before, during, and after your training. Soda, gatorade, etc.
> are all garbage.
> marco
that's interesting. a friend of mine, a surgical dr, once advanced me
to drink a lot of gatorade alike drinks before, during and after
my training. I think it did help sometimes but I still get the headaches.
one funny thing is that I don't have the headache if I train in the
evening. and my headache would usually go away as soon as the evening
comes.
Larry Hodges
> if you look at the label on gatorade, you will see that it is mostly
sugar,
> with some artificial food coloring and flavor, etc. It really is
unhealthy
> to drink large quantities of gatorade.
There are different types of sugars. For example, fruit is mostly fiber,
water and sugar - it just so happens that the sugar in it is fructose.
Gatorade has both fructose and sucrose.
Also, small quanities of sucrose isn't necessarily bad for you. Too much of
it is bad for you.
Many people, including myself, cannot eat solid food during a tournament and
play effectively for several hours afterwards. If I only drank water, I'd
lose energy. Therefore, I pretty much live on gatorade during tournaments.
There also are the various salts you lose when you play that good sports
drinks put back into you, so you don't cramp up.
-Larry Hodges
Larry Hodges
> "marco" <cacco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > if you look at the label on gatorade, you will see that it is mostly
> sugar,
> > with some artificial food coloring and flavor, etc. It really is
> unhealthy
> > to drink large quantities of gatorade.
>
> There are different types of sugars. For example, fruit is mostly fiber,
> water and sugar - it just so happens that the sugar in it is fructose.
> Gatorade has both fructose and sucrose.
>
> Also, small quanities of sucrose isn't necessarily bad for you. Too much
of
> it is bad for you.
>
> Many people, including myself, cannot eat solid food during a tournament
and
> play effectively for several hours afterwards. If I only drank water, I'd
> lose energy. Therefore, I pretty much live on gatorade during tournaments.
> There also are the various salts you lose when you play that good sports
> drinks put back into you, so you don't cramp up.
Addendum: This question comes up periodically. According to the Sports
Nutritionists at the Olympic Training Center, sports drinks are fine, as is
water combined with light eating.
marco
have a lot more protein, vitamins, and minerals than gatorade.
marco
"Larry Hodges" <la...@larrytt.com> wrote in message
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Musashi
As you said, getting some -ose is a good reason to choose sports
drinks over water much of the time. Unless of course the person is
going to eat. Powerbars being full of carbs but also full of sucrose.
The one negative thing I have to say about Gatorade is that it is made
to quench your thirst. Doing that decreases the amount of fluid intake
and leads to the very problems it is supposed to help you avoid.
Musashi
PS, I also hear it will make you repeatedly warm up with a 38mm ball.
;-)
On 3 Jun 2002 20:52:54 +0100, "Larry Hodges" <la...@larrytt.com>
wrote:
Larry Hodges
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> PS, I also hear it will make you repeatedly warm up with a 38mm ball.
> ;-)
Musashi is referring to a humerous (and embarrassing) incident at the St.
Joseph Valley Open. I was warming up in the morning with Qasim Aziz. I
hadn't hit a ball in a couple of weeks due to minor injury problems. There
is a zipper pouch on the inside of my playing bag that is normally zippered
closed; the night before I had opened it, and found a few items that had
been sitting there a looong time, including a plastic ball holder with three
balls. I happened to use one of those balls to warm up with, and boy, did I
seem to have a good glue job! The ball was hopping ... until someone
(Musashi?) from the next table happen to pick it up and mention it was a
38mm ball! Ooops.... I then reached into the bag and grabbed another. We hit
a few rallies - and discovered it too was a 38mm! My mind was on other
things, and I just didn't notice. (And, as I said, I hadn't played in a
couple of weeks.)
I destroyed the three 38mm balls to make sure it didn't happen again....
marco
40, I found that if I hit with a 38 I feel like waldner or something. I hit
with a 38 a little while ago and man it was amazing how much speed and spin
I could produce. Much more than I remember having back in the old days.
marco
"Larry Hodges" <la...@larrytt.com> wrote in message
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NTTC
regarding this tragedy. I will personally pass these on to the family
who, I am sure, will be grateful for the support from the table tennis
community. I would remind everyone that we are collecting donations
for this grieving family to help with the funeral expenses and other
expenses related to this tragedy and would appreciate even the
smallest offering. You can make a check payable to NTTC and mail it
to NTTC, PO Box 22795, Nashville, TN 37202-2795. Be assured that
100% of all donations will be given directly to the Sourinthone
family. Thank you again,
Jamie Stallings
NT...@aol.com
Herbert Ward
As far as I know, the only dangers (for normal healthy people)
associated with sugar are
1. tooth decay
2. sugary foods often lack nutrients
like fiber, protein, and vitamins
marco
Sugar can bring on type 2 diabetes after years of overuse. Sugar produces a
grand insulin rush in your system, which has other effects. Sugar is pretty
bad stuff.
marco
"Herbert Ward" <wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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Larry Hodges
> no no no no no no no noooooooooooooo
>
> Sugar can bring on type 2 diabetes after years of overuse.
Key phrase: ***years of overuse***.
> Sugar produces a grand insulin rush in your system,
You mean concentrated sugar. In relatively diluted form, there is no grand
insulin rush.
> Sugar is pretty bad stuff.
Then fruit is bad for you.
I think what you mean to say is that the sucrose form of sugar, taken in
large or concentrated forms, is pretty bad stuff.
-Larry Hodges, with two days to finalize magazine, and temporarily living on
concentrated sucrose and caffeine in the form of Code Red Mountain Dew....
Alan & Erin Williams
> no no no no no no no noooooooooooooo
>
> Sugar can bring on type 2 diabetes after years of overuse. Sugar produces a
> grand insulin rush in your system, which has other effects. Sugar is pretty
> bad stuff.
>
Try not to have a glucose-free week, okay?
Alan
'ADP~ATP~ADP'
Alan & Erin Williams
> "marco" <cacco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > no no no no no no no noooooooooooooo
> >
> > Sugar can bring on type 2 diabetes after years of overuse.
>
> Key phrase: ***years of overuse***.
>
> > Sugar produces a grand insulin rush in your system,
>
> You mean concentrated sugar. In relatively diluted form, there is no grand
> insulin rush.
>
> > Sugar is pretty bad stuff.
>
> Then fruit is bad for you.
>
> I think what you mean to say is that the sucrose form of sugar, taken in
> large or concentrated forms, is pretty bad stuff.
>
> -Larry Hodges, with two days to finalize magazine, and temporarily living on
> concentrated sucrose and caffeine in the form of Code Red Mountain Dew....
You'll do better with All-Sport, which delivers the energy in a more easily
metabolized configuration, fructose.
Alan
'membrane access permitted'
marco
hard liquor can bring on type 2 diabetes.
What you want are the more complex sugars, such as fructose, etc. However,
even those are not as good as he polysaccharides, such as wheat, rice, etc.
marco
"Larry Hodges" <la...@larrytt.com> wrote in message
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marco
to give you what a good energy bar will give you- namely the energy bar
gives you complex carbs that are more complex than fructose, also vitamins,
minerals, and many times up to 7 grams of protein. You can't beat that,
Alan. And, the cost of an energy bar is the same as the cost of one of
those drinks. Water is usually free, therefore I maintain that water plus
an energy bar is the best way to go.
marco
"Alan & Erin Williams" <will...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> yes, basically white sugar, candy bars, and I'm not sure but some types of
> hard liquor can bring on type 2 diabetes.
>
> What you want are the more complex sugars, such as fructose, etc. However,
> even those are not as good as he polysaccharides, such as wheat, rice, etc.
This weekend I'm gonna forget the gatoraide and powerbars and just stick
with hot sake. I know I'll stay relaxed that way.
Mmmmmmmm. Sake. -JW
Nils Olsson
facts like you were sure that they were the truth even when they aren't.
As to science. Fructose is not a complex sugar. It is one of the monosaccarides
just as glucose. What you call white sugar is a disaccharide containing one
fructose and one glucose unit thus it is MORE complex then fructose.
Fructose however does not induce such a high insulin increase, so that part is
right. Fructose is fairly good and doesn't increase sugar levels too much.
Polysaccharides can however do that if they are made of glucose units just about
as badly as pure sugar. In general especially if they have been heated a lot or
not at all. Baked potato being much worse then boiled and cereal oats oddly
being worse then oat porridge. This is a fairly complex issue and I really
doubt that eating power bars instead of a good sport drinks really help.
Especially since when the glycogen levels are low as after heavy exercise the
muscles will absorb the suger way faster then normal so if you should ever eat
sugar that is the time to do it. But as a general rule, most people eat far too
much food with high glucemic index that raise the blood sugar levels and it is
probably the greatest health problem in most rich countries.
Eating protein during exercise also makes your body work a bit extra. Protein is
better eaten when you have finished the tournament or training.
Nils
Alan & Erin Williams
> Take care what you write about Marco, you have a definite tendency to write
> facts like you were sure that they were the truth even when they aren't.
> As to science. Fructose is not a complex sugar. It is one of the monosaccarides
> just as glucose. What you call white sugar is a disaccharide containing one
> fructose and one glucose unit thus it is MORE complex then fructose.
> Fructose however does not induce such a high insulin increase, so that part is
> right. Fructose is fairly good and doesn't increase sugar levels too much.
Thank you, Nils. Pepsico, the makers of All-Sport, put a great deal research into
the drink and chose fructose for just the reasons you state.
watersl...@erols.com
Gatorade "Propel Fitness Water" drink, in those cool bottles?
JW
Mkwpong
year. Quaker makes Gatorade and Pepsi has been distributing Gatorade the past
12 months. I have been told by Pepsi executives All-Sport will be phased out in
the next two years. Pepsi provided plenty of Gatorade as an official sponsor of
the 2001 Decatur Open last August. This year's tournament is tentatively set
for Aug. 17. We should have Pepsi back as a sponsor the the 11th year.
mike wetzel
Alan & Erin Williams
All-True that Pepsi acquired the best-selling Gatorade from Quaker. But the drink
they designed, All-Sport is a superior product.
Feel free to fill in with your favorite Betamax/Microsoft/Mousetrap story.
Alan
'the best ideas don;t always win'
marco
have tons of sugar in it. It's probably not so bad relatively speaking, as
far as liquor goes.
marco
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Mkwpong
because it is not bad, but the company has duplication and Gatorade is more
popular. At least that's what Pepsi management tells me.
mike wetzel
Alan & Erin Williams
Yea. Pepsi management. Now there's a concept. ;-) It irritates me that they
change their job titles every few years without ever changing the job. Last
time I chatted him, our local COBO's manager was a "Lead Territory Development
Director". ;-)
Gotta love the way they just buy market share. Anywho, the acquistion of
Gatorade was some years ago, wasn;t it? FWIW, our guys say that the Quaker
distribution system was to rent space on the Coke truck...
Hey! Down your way isn;t everyone married to Big Red? I thought if you were
in the same parallel as Atlanta it was obligatory.
I have three cases of All-Sport in my fridge. If your info's accurate, I'm
going to shrinkwrap them and sell them for a Gazillion Bucks on ebaY in two
years. ;-)
Alan
'antique liquids for $100, Alex'
sgordon
Gatorade came out with their new MANGO flavored edition. Now that
is cool! With mango out now, AllSport is sunk unless they have
a response.
Scott
Mkwpong <mkw...@aol.com> wrote:
: Get it while you can Alan. All sport is going the way of the dinosaur. Not
Andrew Gooding
sports drinks or energy bars with water.
They're easier to transport than energy drinks, don't have to be kept cold and
digest more quickly than energy bars. I can have one between matches and go out
and play right away. The taste and texture take a little getting used to though.
Some of them even have caffeine in them!
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michael wetzel
OK Alan,
Good luck with your All-Sport collection.
According to the Chicago Sun Times Dec. 5, 2000 edition,
December 5, 2000
BY LEWIS LAZARE BUSINESS REPORTER
The merger of PepsiCo and Quaker Oats should proceed with
military-like precision.
Pepsi Chairman Roger Enrico is expected to retire after the company
finalizes its $13.8 billion stock-swap deal to acquire Quaker Oats
within the next seven months.
Looks like the merger was mid 2001.
Coke owns Atlanta no doubt, but the North Alabama Table Tennis Club is
on Pepsi's team. Case in point, 10 Decatur Opens, 10 years of
sponsorship by Pepsi. First 2 years 20 cases of drinks per tourney.
The past 8 tournaments, 20-22 cases per year PLUS funding for half of
the tournament tshirts. That equals more than 600 FREE table tennis
shirts around the nation in the past 8 years.
Hard not for us to drink Pepsi products.
mike wetzel
Herbert Ward
The National Institute of Health is a pretigious government
organization. Go to their web site:
http://www.nih.gov
Into their search box, type "saturated fat". All of the first 10
search results mention the danger of eating this stuff.
Now return to the search box and type "sugar". None of the first 10
search results mention the danger of sugar to normal healthy people.
marco
sure you feed your kids frosted flakes and pop tarts and fruit loops for
breakfast. Give them McDonald's panckakes and a coke too. This way they
come to school bouncing off of the walls and get labelled as ADHD.
Also, after years of this wonderful sugar-intense diet, they won't
appreciate a decent sugar-free meal like spinach, vegetables, etc.
My aunt is Korean (ha, I bet no one would believe that) she eats boiled fish
and steamed rice almost every day. She's about 50 years old and looks like
she's 30. My other italian aunts that eat cookies and other types of sweets
look like they're 30 too (mostly due to estrogen therapy), except they look
like a very fat 30 year old.
But I won't argue anymore about sugar.
marco
"Herbert Ward" <wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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wayne
> yes, basically white sugar, candy bars, and I'm not sure but some types of
> hard liquor can bring on type 2 diabetes.
>
> What you want are the more complex sugars, such as fructose, etc. However,
> even those are not as good as he polysaccharides, such as wheat, rice, etc.
>
> marco
>
Try to be brief.
Diabetes is only directly related to glucose.
Most single sugers have exactly the same chemical composition as
glucose but have different configurations. In the body, a few of them
can be trans-configured to glucose (therefore some diabetic effect)
and be used (as the form of acetyl-CoA that can either be "burnt" to
produce ATP or be "chained" to produce and deposit fat). Some can
directly transform to acetyl-CoA and be used(no diabetic effect if it
happens). Fructose is one of those and can do both.
Sucrose (white suger) is a di-suger containing one glucose and one
fructose. Since fructose is sweeter than glucose, sucrose has the
sweetness in bwn. There are many polysaccharides. Some contains more
portions of glucose, some less or none. Yes they are less diabetic
than glucose. But whether they are less diabetic than fructose or
sucrose depends on their composition and a lot of other factors.
Wayne