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John Schneider

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Jun 7, 2002, 5:52:24 PM6/7/02
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I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Butterfly has
another blade named after the reigning European champion:

http://www.butterflyonline.com/cgi-bin/blade_product1.asp

It seems to be a thinner, slower version of the Keyshot/Biside blades.
They also have the Zhang Yining blade (similar to the Korbel/Adolescen
blades) and the new Tempest rubber.

watersl...@erols.com

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Jun 7, 2002, 6:54:19 PM6/7/02
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That Adolescen blade was pretty nice. In a fit of insanity I traded my
old one to Cheng for a couple of sheets of Bryce a while back. Dumb!

Julian

John Schneider

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Jun 7, 2002, 6:44:01 PM6/7/02
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In article <3D0139...@erols.com>, watersl...@erols.com says...
Zhang Yining used to play with an Adolescen blade so I wouldn't be
surprised if this blade was just an Adolescen with a new name...

Victor Kan

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Jun 8, 2002, 5:36:25 AM6/8/02
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Interesting...from the description of the blade:

"Our newest addition to our popular Arylate line of blades was designed
for the new European Men's Champion, Timo Boll (Ger)."

Popular? Yet it is now the only Arylate (as opposed to Arylate+Carbon)
offensive blade they sell (at least in the US) now since the Moonbeam,
Keyshot, Biside, Pulser and Selebes are all discontinued.

Truth be told, I liked my Biside a lot, but found the handle
uncomfortably small.

Andrew Gooding

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Jun 8, 2002, 10:27:03 AM6/8/02
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My coach has a sheet of Tempest he got from Martin-Kilpatrick, the US
distributor.

It had a flexible topsheet (more so than Tackfire Special soft) and the
sponge felt similar to that used on Donic Supersonic Soft. Pips were a bit
longer than the ultrashort ones on the Supersonic and Makss, but topsheet
seemed equally thin.

Good dwell time and spin were possible. He likes it.

-- Andrew

John Schneider wrote:

>
> > I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Butterfly has
> > another blade named after the reigning European champion:
> >
> > http://www.butterflyonline.com/cgi-bin/blade_product1.asp
> >
> > It seems to be a thinner, slower version of the Keyshot/Biside blades.
> > They also have the Zhang Yining blade (similar to the Korbel/Adolescen
> > blades) and the new Tempest rubber.
> >

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John Schneider

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Jun 8, 2002, 4:17:27 PM6/8/02
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In article <3D021427...@marshall.edu>, good...@marshall.edu
says...

> My coach has a sheet of Tempest he got from Martin-Kilpatrick, the US
> distributor.
>
> It had a flexible topsheet (more so than Tackfire Special soft) and the
> sponge felt similar to that used on Donic Supersonic Soft. Pips were a bit
> longer than the ultrashort ones on the Supersonic and Makss, but topsheet
> seemed equally thin.
>
> Good dwell time and spin were possible. He likes it.
>
> -- Andrew

Here's the blurb from www.butterflyonline.com (which of course has the
online ordering for Martin-Kilpatrick):

Butterfly unleashes a storm on the world of Table Tennis with its
first rubber made expressly for the increased speed and spin
requirements created by the introduction of the 40 mm ball.
Tempest features a soft but tacky top sheet that allows for deep
penetration of the ball into the sponge. The sponge itself is new,
soft, and lightweight with great rebound. The result is a rubber
that features pinpoint control at every range of spin and speed.
Unleash the power of Tempest in your game and unleash the storm
on your opponents. Sponge mm: 1.9, 2.1, Max

Andrew,

Does the topsheet have about the same tackiness as Tackifire Special
Soft?

- John

Berndt J. G. Mann

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Jun 8, 2002, 10:11:20 PM6/8/02
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On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 20:17:27 GMT, John Schneider
<js2100[NOSPAM]@pacbell.net> wrote:

>In article <3D021427...@marshall.edu>, good...@marshall.edu
>says...
>> My coach has a sheet of Tempest he got from Martin-Kilpatrick, the US
>> distributor.
>>
>> It had a flexible topsheet (more so than Tackfire Special soft) and the
>> sponge felt similar to that used on Donic Supersonic Soft. Pips were a bit
>> longer than the ultrashort ones on the Supersonic and Makss, but topsheet
>> seemed equally thin.
>>
>> Good dwell time and spin were possible. He likes it.
>>
>> -- Andrew
>
>Here's the blurb from www.butterflyonline.com (which of course has the
>online ordering for Martin-Kilpatrick):
>
>Butterfly unleashes a storm on the world of Table Tennis with its
>first rubber made expressly for the increased speed and spin
>requirements created by the introduction of the 40 mm ball.
>Tempest features a soft but tacky top sheet that allows for deep
>penetration of the ball into the sponge. The sponge itself is new,
>soft, and lightweight with great rebound. The result is a rubber
>that features pinpoint control at every range of spin and speed.
>Unleash the power of Tempest in your game and unleash the storm
>on your opponents. Sponge mm: 1.9, 2.1, Max
>
>Andrew,

Guess what, O guileless gullible glue gods and goddesses; Butterfly
unleashed a storm on the world of table tennis around four decades ago
with Tempest rubber "...C4 regular (pimples out) and D13 reversed
(pimples in) sandwich forms...the fastest rubber made that allows
control of all-round game. Gives more speed than 'Attack' sandwich
yet produces good spins. Has special firm sponge rubber base, and
relatively soft playing surface in comparison with the Comet
material..." (1964 Martin-Kilpatrick brochure).

And, according to the Martin-Kilpatrick price list effective April
1964, you could get this good stuff, ideally suited for 38 mm.
paleoGlockpong and "...THE LOOP DRIVE...one of the newest strokes in
table tennis..." for an eminently reasonable $1.75 per sheet. If you
wanted it e.g. on a French Style 3- or 5-ply that would set you back a
good six bucks.

A 1963 Butterfly brochure shows pictures of Tempest in red, black and
green. No mention is made, however, of different sponge thicknesses.

Heaven only knows whether or not the new Tempest will be the answer to
a Kreangaponger's dreams any more than the old Tempest answered a
Biribaponger's. If this game is a renewable resource which can be
rejuvenated each time you open those spiffy cellophane packages with
the Digital Era equivalent of Lydia Pinkham's Vegetable Compound
inside, who knows? it very well could be.

Phineas T. Burn'em

marco

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Jun 8, 2002, 10:51:34 PM6/8/02
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haha what's up berndt. Hey dude, you better go to florida and stay in the
mariot. I'll meet ya at the piano for some playing and then maybe we can
kiss...

marco

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John Schneider

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Jun 8, 2002, 11:11:57 PM6/8/02
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In article <3d02a795....@news.supernews.com>, bjgm...@msn.com
says...

> Guess what, O guileless gullible glue gods and goddesses; Butterfly
> unleashed a storm on the world of table tennis around four decades ago
> with Tempest rubber "...C4 regular (pimples out) and D13 reversed
> (pimples in) sandwich forms...the fastest rubber made that allows
> control of all-round game. Gives more speed than 'Attack' sandwich
> yet produces good spins. Has special firm sponge rubber base, and
> relatively soft playing surface in comparison with the Comet
> material..." (1964 Martin-Kilpatrick brochure).
>
> And, according to the Martin-Kilpatrick price list effective April
> 1964, you could get this good stuff, ideally suited for 38 mm.
> paleoGlockpong and "...THE LOOP DRIVE...one of the newest strokes in
> table tennis..." for an eminently reasonable $1.75 per sheet. If you
> wanted it e.g. on a French Style 3- or 5-ply that would set you back a
> good six bucks.
>
> A 1963 Butterfly brochure shows pictures of Tempest in red, black and
> green. No mention is made, however, of different sponge thicknesses.
>
> Heaven only knows whether or not the new Tempest will be the answer to
> a Kreangaponger's dreams any more than the old Tempest answered a
> Biribaponger's. If this game is a renewable resource which can be
> rejuvenated each time you open those spiffy cellophane packages with
> the Digital Era equivalent of Lydia Pinkham's Vegetable Compound
> inside, who knows? it very well could be.
>
> Phineas T. Burn'em
>
>
Guess what, O histrionic hardbatter; One doesn't have to have been around
as long as Methuselah to remember Butterfly Tempest. As I recall, both
the inverted and pips out versions were available when I started playing
at TT clubs in the mid-1970's. A price list I have from 1987 has the
inverted Tempest for $11.95. Bob Brickell was selling it for $16 a sheet
in 1993. Butterfly has also recycled at least one blade name - Scorna.

William Shakesbeer

Arthur Stewart

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Jun 8, 2002, 11:56:40 PM6/8/02
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John, would you happen to have any of the information on the "original"
Scorna blade. I have 2 of them, but don't have the Information such as
weight, intended use, and what was written about it. Any info you may have
on it would be appreciated. Thanks, Art


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John Schneider

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Jun 9, 2002, 12:37:39 AM6/9/02
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In article <YlAM8.45041$lM2.1...@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
ASTE...@ec.rr.com says...

> John, would you happen to have any of the information on the "original"
> Scorna blade. I have 2 of them, but don't have the Information such as
> weight, intended use, and what was written about it. Any info you may have
> on it would be appreciated. Thanks, Art
>
>
I don't have any literature on the original Scorna blade. I've heard
that the grooves that are only on one side of the handle were so racket
twiddlers could tell which side they were using. This, along with the
semi-large head and the fact that it's not that fast for a carbon blade,
suggest that it may have been intended for users of combination bats such
as Seemiller-grip players and choppers. I haven't weighed my blade, but
it's on the heavy side. My guess would be about 100 grams. Butterfly
used to make an even bigger, heavier, and slower carbon blade called
Allure (Insook Bhushan used one).

Arthur Stewart

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Jun 9, 2002, 12:46:59 AM6/9/02
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Thanks for the reply. That's about the same info I've been able to get on it
so far. I even tried M/K here in North Carolina hoping they'd have some old
literature on the blade, but I was told they didn't. Let me know if you run
across anything and I'll do the same for you. Art!!

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