I can swim 25 meters without taking a breath
pakih...@yahoo.ca
didgerman
> Can you?
>
No. But why don't you try swimming further without breathing, preferably
downwards.....
Steph
@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Can you?
>
Actually yes.
I can still do about 35 meters and about 40 yards on a single breath.
In my best I could do 75 yards on a single breath and push off the wall.
But, it doesn't really mean anything. I mean sure I get better dive times
when SCUBA diving becuase I use less air - but it doesn't relate to being
faster or have better technique.
andre...@aol.com
4+ lengths underwater in a 25 meter pool. I can do a length and change
under water in a 25m pool. I've never been able to get one full lap.
I used to get scared because past a point of holding your breath you
start to relax. I didn't want to pass out from CO2.
I do a lot of snorkeling and it is usefull to be able to be under for a
long time.
Andres
On Jan 25, 10:05 am, Steph <CUT_skipat...@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote:
> pakihak...@yahoo.ca wrote in news:1169619587.071813.112600
> @q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Can you?Actually yes.
Pat
>
> I used to get scared because past a point of holding your breath you
> start to relax. I didn't want to pass out from CO2.
>
When I hold my breath too long, my body starts going into convulsions and I
have a panicky feeling. That sure isn't relaxing.
Pat
andre...@aol.com
On Jan 25, 5:11 pm, "Pat" <P...@faraway.com> wrote:
> > I used to get scared because past a point of holding your breath you
> > start to relax. I didn't want to pass out from CO2.
>
> > AndresWhen I hold my breath too long, my body starts going into convulsions and I
> have a panicky feeling. That sure isn't relaxing.
>
> Pat
When I swim under water, I try to relax and go as slow as possible. i
try to make the least possible effort. After a while, i start to get
the usual desperate need to gasp for air. If I try to relax, I can
control the need and relax a little longer. That feeling that I can
relax pass the point where my lungs want to gulp for air is scary.
Apparently, the reason this happens is because CO2 gets you to relax,
but can get you too pass out.
Several years ago, someone was showing his family how he could hold his
breath under water for several minutes. The dude stayed under water
until he passed out. Problem is that he never came back.
Andres
congokid
<CUT_sk...@hotmail.com_CUT> writes
>
>I can still do about 35 meters and about 40 yards on a single breath.
>In my best I could do 75 yards on a single breath and push off the wall.
A couple of years ago, I did four lengths of a 12 metre swimming pool on
a single breath. Had a bit of a headache afterward.
--
congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http://congokid.com
rtk
hockey and did distance no-breathers every day, with big
fins though. She could do 75 meters, no sweat.
rtk
a.c.
I've only ever manage to come within a whiskers of 2 x 25m underwater,
on 1 breath.
I used a sculling type method, rather than the breaststroke thing most
people opt for. I used to do quite a lot of underwater stuff and found
that psychology plays a very significant role and concerns about quite
important things like not being crashed upon by belly floppers, or
other knock-on contact with other swimmers, could make or break the
underwater amusements.
I've manged 25m underwater on 1 breath going backwards.. i.e.
travelling feet first. I've managed it (backwards) facing up and facing
down. I've managed it going head first facing up to (rather a nice
sensation) I've also managed it underwater sideways, but not the whole
25m
http://homepage.eircom.net/~comicaquatic/
rtk
Gilmartin. There are events and awards in USA underwater
hockey named in her memory. She died at age 39 of unrelated
causes, a sad loss for her many friends, including me.
rtk
Nelson
On Jan 26, 2:59 am, "andresm...@aol.com" <andresm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 5:11 pm, "Pat" <P...@faraway.com> wrote:
>
<snipped>
> Several years ago, someone was showing his family how he could hold his
> breath under water for several minutes. The dude stayed under water
> until he passed out. Problem is that he never came back.
>
> Andres
That is an interesting point!
Is there any benefit in breathing holding towards swimming and health?
I mean it seems to me that humans are suppose to be breathing, to state
the obvious.
So if I am holding my breath like in breathing every 6 or more
armstrokes, than wouldn't that tend be harmfull to health in a long
time. As in the example above, instead of adapt to better skills, adapt
to ignore body warning signals?
I am asking?
Nelson
Pat
>
> Is there any benefit in breathing holding towards swimming and health?
>
> I mean it seems to me that humans are suppose to be breathing, to state
> the obvious.
>
> So if I am holding my breath like in breathing every 6 or more
> armstrokes, than wouldn't that tend be harmfull to health in a long
> time. As in the example above, instead of adapt to better skills, adapt
> to ignore body warning signals?
>
> I am asking?
>
> Nelson
Ask yourself, how could holding your breath for 6 strokes could possibly
harm your body. Just think about it for a minute.
Pat in TX
>
didgerman
How could holding your breath help you when you're in oxygen debt?
I will never understand swimmers that hold their breath as some part of
training. Pointless and stupid....
>
> Pat in TX
>
>
Micheal Artindale
"didgerman" <didg...@rfu.com> wrote in message
news:7lPuh.82673$z01....@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
I think it could be concidered working on efificiency. If you can swim a
lenght at a certain speed while holding your breath, then, you should be
able to swim faster when breating bilateral, or on one side.
Why do people put turbochargers or superchargers on their sports cars... to
get more air in, which increases the potential of going faster.
My 2 cents worth
Micheal
Pat
Micheal Artindale
"Pat" <P...@faraway.com> wrote in message
news:522i3eF...@mid.individual.net...
> Micheal, turn on your spell checker.
>
not in the rest of the world... colour -color.
my checker also tries to correct the reposted part of the message.
Micheal
didgerman
You could try Mozilla's Thunderbird as an email and newsreader client,
better than your outlook express..... You can select different versions
of English to fit with your location.
didgerman
> "didgerman" <didg...@rfu.com> wrote in message
> news:7lPuh.82673$z01....@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> Pat wrote:
>>>> Is there any benefit in breathing holding towards swimming and health?
>>>>
>>>> I mean it seems to me that humans are suppose to be breathing, to state
>>>> the obvious.
>>>>
>>>> So if I am holding my breath like in breathing every 6 or more
>>>> armstrokes, than wouldn't that tend be harmfull to health in a long
>>>> time. As in the example above, instead of adapt to better skills, adapt
>>>> to ignore body warning signals?
>>>>
>>>> I am asking?
>>>>
>>>> Nelson
>>> Ask yourself, how could holding your breath for 6 strokes could possibly
>>> harm your body. Just think about it for a minute.
>> How could holding your breath help you when you're in oxygen debt?
>> I will never understand swimmers that hold their breath as some part of
>> training. Pointless and stupid....
>
> I think it could be concidered working on efificiency. If you can swim a
> lenght at a certain speed while holding your breath, then, you should be
> able to swim faster when breating bilateral, or on one side.
That is the story I've heard, but holding your breath doesn't help your
body deal with oxygen debt, quite the reverse in fact.
IMO, if you want to do something for your lungs, then practice expelling
air with extra force underwater when you're doing your leg kick drills
with a float.
>
> Why do people put turbochargers or superchargers on their sports cars... to
> get more air in, which increases the potential of going faster.
I hear what you're saying, but the often used car analogy rarely works
well for humans. We need to get more air in, and use it. It's the way we
use it that needs to be trained, not how much we can get in and hold.
Duncan Heenan
>snip<
>> I think it could be concidered working on efificiency. If you can swim a
>> lenght at a certain speed while holding your breath, then, you should be
>> able to swim faster when breating bilateral, or on one side.
>
> That is the story I've heard, but holding your breath doesn't help your
> body deal with oxygen debt, quite the reverse in fact.
> IMO, if you want to do something for your lungs, then practice expelling
> air with extra force underwater when you're doing your leg kick drills
> with a float.
There used to be a fashion for all sorts of athletes to do breathing
exercise under water through a hosepipe, in through the mouth and out
through the nose, about 2-3 metres down. It was meant to provide resistance
to the diaphragm and some of the intercostal muscles via the water pressure,
and thereby strengthen them. I believe Muhammad Ali used to do a lot of it
in his early days. I don't know if it worked, but you rarely hear of people
doing it nowadays.
Pat
> There used to be a fashion for all sorts of athletes to do breathing
> exercise under water through a hosepipe, in through the mouth and out
> through the nose, about 2-3 metres down. It was meant to provide
> resistance
> to the diaphragm and some of the intercostal muscles via the water
> pressure,
> and thereby strengthen them. I believe Muhammad Ali used to do a lot of it
> in his early days. I don't know if it worked, but you rarely hear of
> people
> doing it nowadays.
There is also a product one can buy at online running stores which resembles
the lung exercisers used in hospitals. They claim that breathing against
resistance strengthens the lungs.
http://www.roadrunnersports.com/rrs/products/GAI104/
"What if you could exercise harder and longer and have it feel easier? You
can! Just 30 breaths twice daily with the POWERbreathe. and in 4 weeks youll
strengthen your inspiratory muscles (the ones you use to breath in) and
improve lung function to get more out of your workout."
That's what they claim, anyway....
Pat in TX
>
>
Silver0l
http://www.planetfreedive.dk/World%20Record%20166%20meter%20256kbWM9.wmv
-- Olivier
Tony Bryant
to start to breathe. This tends not to work well under water.
Pat
>>
> One problem with this is that the standard reflex when you pass out is to
> start to breathe. This tends not to work well under water.
Well, wouldn't that also mean you'd start to cough and that would result in
awareness of the situation?
Pat in TX
Mark P
Yes, that's why they revive unconscious people by throwing them face
down into a pool.
Nelson
>> As in the example above, instead of adapt to better skills, adapt
> > to ignore body warning signals?
>
> > I am asking?
>
> > Nelson
>
> Ask yourself, how could holding your breath for 6 strokes could possibly
> harm your body. Just think about it for a minute.
>
> Pat in TX
>
My answer to that is in my question above. Myself get headaches when
we have this kind of training, the brain cells that are complaining
are suppose to die or get stronger?
Nelson
Pat
>> Ask yourself, how could holding your breath for 6 strokes could possibly
>> harm your body. Just think about it for a minute.
>>
>> Pat in TX
>>
>
>
> My answer to that is in my question above. Myself get headaches when
> we have this kind of training, the brain cells that are complaining
> are suppose to die or get stronger?
>
> Nelson
You get a headache from holding your breath for 6 seconds? You have
problems, big ones.
Pat in TX
>
>
Pat
>
> Yes, that's why they revive unconscious people by throwing them face down
> into a pool.
Your smart alec comment has no relevance to this discussion. When is your
12th birthday, anyway?
Pat in TX
Mark P
Only because you snipped the relevant context.
>
> Pat in TX
>
>
The known occurrences of people losing consciousness and dying while
holding their breath underwater is fairly compelling evidence that
choking on water is not a reliable way to regain consciousness. But
then, I think my prior comment implied as much.
Pat
>
> The known occurrences of people losing consciousness and dying while
> holding their breath underwater is fairly compelling evidence that choking
> on water is not a reliable way to regain consciousness. But then, I think
> my prior comment implied as much.
You, of course, have cites to prove there has been a rash of people dying
after holding their breath underwater?
I would be interested in seeing such evidence.
Pat in TX
Mark P
I never claimed a "rash" of occurrences and, when last I checked, r.s.s.
was not a scholarly journal that required citations for every statement
made. I'd suggest you look a few articles up-thread where Andres Muro
describes such an incident, although I should warn you that his post
also lacks cited references. Or you could simply google: underwater
breath holding death, and read all about it.
Are you really trying to defend the position that one who loses
consciousness underwater is likely to wake up by choking? Or do you
always react this badly to sarcasm?
Nelson
Pat in TX has reading problems! Big ones!
I didn't say "just 5 seconds"! Even if I had, your answer is stupid
and irrelevant, you should be able to do better than that!
What I am asking is: "If you train for a decent long time in air-
deprivation than will you really adapt and become more efficient?" Or
do you risk any kind of overtraining?
In the apnea sports, you are suppose to have people watching you, for
passing out is a real usual situation.
Now, in between, this extreme points. If, for instance, some swimmers
are confortable swimming 2k breathing every 4 or less strokes, what
will they profit attempting breathing rates of 5, 6, or higher
strokes? I am asking!
Nelson
didgerman
Nothing. If it's a 2k race they'll profit from bilateral breathing.
>
> Nelson
>
>
>
>
>
Pat
>> You get a headache from holding your breath for 6 seconds? You have
>> problems, big ones.
>>
>> Pat in TX
>
> Pat in TX has reading problems! Big ones!
>
> I didn't say "just 5 seconds"! Even if I had, your answer is stupid
> and irrelevant, you should be able to do better than that!
Here are your own words:
"So if I am holding my breath like in breathing every 6 or more
armstrokes, than wouldn't that tend be harmfull to health in a long
time. As in the example above, instead of adapt to better skills, adapt
to ignore body warning signals?
I am asking?
Nelson"
Just how long does it take you to swim "every 6 or more armstrokes" Nelson?
Maybe it's long enough for your memory to fade....
..................................................
>
> What I am asking is: "If you train for a decent long time in air-
> deprivation than will you really adapt and become more efficient?" Or
> do you risk any kind of overtraining?
..................................
You're asking that now, but that is not your original post, then, is it? Are
we supposed to be mindreaders?
....................................
> Now, in between, this extreme points. If, for instance, some swimmers
> are confortable swimming 2k breathing every 4 or less strokes, what
> will they profit attempting breathing rates of 5, 6, or higher
> strokes? I am asking!
>
> Nelson
.............
You were saying that it might cause brain cell damage. Now, really! If a
person can breathe every 5 or 6 strokes easily, it cannot be harming the
brain or body. That's just common sense, and I don't have to ask.
Pat in TX
Pat
...............
Ah, I see. You may an inflammatory statement and then when asked to back it
up, you weasel out sideways by claiming other people aren't held to the
standard of proving their statements.
If you make a claim, back it up! Your credibility has disappeared below the
surface where it is choking.
Pat in TX
Mark P
I made an inflammatory statement? I'm sorry-- I didn't realize this was
your first day on the internet. Get a sense of humor. Then try
rereading what I wrote above where I gave you a perfectly valid search
which will provide ample evidence that, incredible as it may sound,
people holding their breath underwater do in fact sometimes die. Why
such a shocking find is not on the cover of /Nature/ is quite beyond me.
Nelson
Pat escreveu:
<snip>
>
> Just how long does it take you to swim "every 6 or more armstrokes" Nelson?
> Maybe it's long enough for your memory to fade....
> ..................................................
>
My understanding is that "breathing every 6 armstrokes" is different
than "holding breath for 6 seconds"! Even if both take 6 seconds!
Myself have different swimming strategies for every breath/stroke
rate, don't you?
>
> >
> > What I am asking is: "If you train for a decent long time in air-
> > deprivation than will you really adapt and become more efficient?" Or
> > do you risk any kind of overtraining?
>
> ..................................
>
> You're asking that now, but that is not your original post, then, is it? Are
> we supposed to be mindreaders?
>
No, you are suppose to be a swimmer!
> ....................................
>
> > Now, in between, this extreme points. If, for instance, some swimmers
> > are confortable swimming 2k breathing every 4 or less strokes, what
> > will they profit attempting breathing rates of 5, 6, or higher
> > strokes? I am asking!
> >
> > Nelson
>
> .............
>
> You were saying that it might cause brain cell damage. Now, really! If a
> person can breathe every 5 or 6 strokes easily, it cannot be harming the
> brain or body. That's just common sense, and I don't have to ask.
>
> Pat in TX
Reading problems again, Pat! I was asking. It is even written so after
the question mark!
Another question, pay attention it is a *question*! ;) Are you a
qualified person to make the statement
"it cannot be harming brain and body"?
Didgerman says it have no profit at 2k races, so that is the kind of
answer I tend to agree with,
even if I would like some elaboration on that.
I assume Everybody have a best breathing rate at specific swimming
task or water activity,
so if you are below that best rate than my common sense tells me you
may be harming
your body somehow. Even if just at 5 or 6 strokes, when you are used
to breathing every 4.
Not saying one will die, but it will hadicap the performance or
training.
Nelson
didgerman
What is the record for 2k? 30-40 mins depending on where you are, pool
or outdoors...
That's still best performed whilst in oxygen debt, in other words,
you're going to be breathing as hard as you can.
For that event you're going to train your oxygen transport system, and
use it. And because it's still short enough, you're going to use your
anaerobic system, which means more breathing to help expel the by
products of that....
What a horrible ordeal, best to keep breathing......
Mark P
>
> What is the record for 2k? 30-40 mins depending on where you are, pool
> or outdoors...
Quite a bit less than that. I can easily swim 2k in that range and I'm
no record-holder. For reference, Grant Hackett's current world record
time for the 1500m is 14:35.56. Now that's in a 50m pool, and somewhat
shorter than 2k, but it's reasonable to extrapolate to a world record
pace for 2k of about 20 minutes.
Mark
didgerman
Damn and blast, you mean I'm not nearly a world record holder any more?
Mark P
Alas, no, but 100 years ago perhaps you'd have stood a chance?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_record_progression_1500m_freestyle
andre...@aol.com
wrote:
Here are a couple of articles about deaths while holding your breath
underwater.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1145/is_n7_v30/ai_17244576
http://www.mountnittany.org/attach/Health%20Break/9-25-6.pdf
I still do this, but I try not to overdo it.
Andres
Pat
Steph
news:45bcab55$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
It's now called positive pressure breathing; common among runners.
Swimmers don't have to actually think about positive pressure breathing
as we are usually gasping for air and blowing it out during high activity
naturally.
Steph
news:1170252445.2...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 30, 7:07 pm, "Pat" <P...@faraway.com> wrote:
>> >> Ask yourself, how could holding your breath for 6 strokes could
>> >> possibly harm your body. Just think about it for a minute.
>>
>> >> Pat in TX
>>
>> > My answer to that is in my question above. Myself get headaches
>> > when we have this kind of training, the brain cells that are
>> > complaining are suppose to die or get stronger?
>>
>> > Nelson
>>
>> You get a headache from holding your breath for 6 seconds? You have
>> problems, big ones.
>>
>> Pat in TX
>
> Pat in TX has reading problems! Big ones!
>
> I didn't say "just 5 seconds"! Even if I had, your answer is stupid
> and irrelevant, you should be able to do better than that!
>
> What I am asking is: "If you train for a decent long time in air-
> deprivation than will you really adapt and become more efficient?" Or
> do you risk any kind of overtraining?
>
If you are training to the point where you are constantly air-deprived it
is my opinion you will not see any improvement. On the other hand if you
did some sets - say 8x25 flat-out with evens on 1 breath odds breathing
every-stroke (or every-other) - and keep the intervals short, less than
10 seconds on the wall. You would build up aerobic and anaerobic
capacity and your muscles would benefit.
> In the apnea sports, you are suppose to have people watching you, for
> passing out is a real usual situation.
>
> Now, in between, this extreme points. If, for instance, some swimmers
> are confortable swimming 2k breathing every 4 or less strokes, what
> will they profit attempting breathing rates of 5, 6, or higher
> strokes? I am asking!
>
> Nelson
>
I mostly swim 5km breathing bilateral on every third stroke.
Occasionally I switch to every 5th stroke and stretch it out, and
sometimes I need to get some extra breaths in there.
Nelson
> Here are a couple of articles about deaths while holding your breath
> underwater.
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1145/is_n7_v30/ai_17244576
>
> http://www.mountnittany.org/attach/Health%20Break/9-25-6.pdf
>
> I still do this, but I try not to overdo it.
>
> Andres-
Interesting articles, Andres. Everybody should read them
>>>Victims of underwater swimming have been known to be high achievers who don't quit and who push themselves to the limit in many of their activities. They usually are good students in school.<<<<
Nelson
a.c.
> On Feb 1, 11:06 am, "andresm...@aol.com" <andresm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Here are a couple of articles about deaths while holding your breath
> > underwater.
>
> >http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1145/is_n7_v30/ai_17244576
>
> >http://www.mountnittany.org/attach/Health%20Break/9-25-6.pdf
>
> > I still do this, but I try not to overdo it.
>
> > Andres-
>
> Interesting articles, Andres. Everybody should read them
Agreed.
Though I didn't much like the implied suggestion in the second
article. Could it lead to a total ban on underwater swimming?
After all, someone able to efficiently do 25m on one breath may well
be safer than someone less able who 'drowns' before getting half way
>
> >>>Victims of underwater swimming have been known to be high achievers who don't quit and who push themselves to the limit in many of their activities. They usually are good students in school.<<<<
I specifically, personally, recognised "They felt as if they could
swim forever.".
It happen way back when I was still going to school and long, long
before I engaged in experimental swimming (on, or under water).
On the day in question, the pool was a bit crowded and the only really
unpopulated area was at the bottom of the deep end (8' foot or so..
2.4m). So, there I spent most of my time with the only really annoying
bit being the need to resurface for air.
That is to say, until at one point I noticed I didn't need to breath.
I didn't even notice until it registered with me that I had been down
there much longer than usual... but that it didn't matter, I felt and
*realised* I could stay there forever.. which seemed such a strange
notion that for that reason only, I re-surfaced.
Besides, I also knew that staying there forever was only going to last
until time for class.
>
> Nelson
rtk
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1145/is_n7_v30/ai_17244576
>
> http://www.mountnittany.org/attach/Health%20Break/9-25-6.pdf
>
> I still do this, but I try not to overdo it.
>
> Andres
>
What a surprise! The first article is written by Tom
Griffiths, the aquatics director of my pool. The second is
by a local doctor. Mount Nittany is visible from my window
right now. Tom has a couple notices up around the pools
warning against breath holding. Children especially are
watched by the staff because they often play such games.
rtk
Tony Bryant
racing strokes forbidding swimming large distances underwater in a race.
Could it have had someting to do with the inherent danger of the practice?
Pat
>
>> Incidentally, I wonder what the reason was for the rules in all four
>> racing strokes forbidding swimming large distances underwater in a race.
>> Could it have had someting to do with the inherent danger of the
>> practice?
>
> reason.
> --
> BD
I don't know if that is the only reason---we have only your opinion on that,
not an official response---but it makes sense to me that if the race is for,
say breast stroke, the officials would expect to see the entrants do the
breast stroke and not spend half of the first lap underwater.
Pat
a.c.
Something like that.
There's only one form of breath holding exercise that I know off that
benefits swimmers and it's usually done as part of a yoga session.
It's the one where you inhale deeply and slowly up to your max... hold
the breath for a few seconds and then exhale slowly. Repeat is
required, but no more than 5 or 6 times. (usually... I think)
It's good for mental relaxation and as such may assist newer swimmers
where anxiety is overplaying swimming skill.
cfreund
news:52mbnfF...@mid.individual.net:
Good point but bad example.
Freestyle, backstroke, and butterfly require the swimmers head to break
the surface by the 15m mark. There's no such requirement to in
breaststroke. And its not uncommon for a breaststroker to cover half the
length of a short course pool (25yards/meters) underwater on starts and
turns.
Theoretically, a swimmer can race breaststroke completely underwater but
propulsion will be extremely limited. After the start and after each
turn, the swimmer may take one arm stroke and single downward dolphin
kick followed by a breaststroke kick while wholly submerged; the head
must break the surface before the before the hands turn inward at the
widest part of the second stroke.
While not a historian of swimming rules, I heard that the 15m rule was
implemented after the '88(?) Olympics when a backstoker covered nearly a
full length of the pool underwater using a dolphin kick, surfacing just
before the turn. The rule was supossedly implemented for the health and
safety of the swimmers, but I'm sure maintaining 'stroke integrity' and
and excitement for the spectators played a major role.
wal...@easystreet.com
> Pat wrote:
> >> Is there any benefit in breathing holding towards swimming and health?
>
> >> I mean it seems to me that humans are suppose to be breathing, to state
> >> the obvious.
>
> >> So if I am holding my breath like in breathing every 6 or more
> >> armstrokes, than wouldn't that tend be harmfull to health in a long
> >> time. As in the example above, instead of adapt to better skills, adapt
> >> to ignore body warning signals?
>
> >> I am asking?
>
> >> Nelson
>
> > harm your body. Just think about it for a minute.
>
> I will never understand swimmers that hold their breath as some part of
> training. Pointless and stupid....
>
>
>
>
>
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Agreed, pointless and all that.
Ever hear of runners holding their breath for the hundred-yard dash,
or maybe breathing only every 50 yards in a marathon? I would
concede, though, that holding one's breath may be a valuable skill for
pearl divers.
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> She trained long to be able to do that. Her name was Sheila
> Gilmartin. There are events and awards in USA underwater
> hockey named in her memory. She died at age 39 of unrelated
> causes, a sad loss for her many friends, including me.
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Is there a website with pictures of Sheila? How did she pass away?
I was born the same day she was.
