Pool safety: Ring buoy vs. hook
j_paque
Charlie <coks...@speedchoice.com> wrote:
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>For my backyard pool, we thought we should have some type of safety device.
>Any recommendations of pros and cons of ring buoys vs. hooks (on a
>non-telescoping pole)?
>
>Thanks. - Charlie
>
>
Generally (very generally) a ring bouy is what you would throw
to someone having trouble to tow them in. A hook I usually
think of as something to pull someone off the bottom
of the pool, but it can also be used by reaching it out
to someone in trouble. It's not as easy to give to someone
without conking them on the head inadvertantly. Best thing
to do is call the county health department and see what they
require for pools in your area. I think I'd want a ring
buoy and a pole with a mesh basket on the end for getting
leaves and stuff out of the pool (and can double as a reaching
device for a rescue).
j.
gazoo
safest way to save someone is in the following order...
Talk
Throw
Reach
Wade
Row
Swim
Tow
Carry
Try having some other floatation devices that when thrown if they hit you in
the head they won't knock you out. (flutter boards, noodles, etc.)
If you find that the pole isn't of any help (person is unconscious) then you
will need something to take into the water with you for your own safety just
in case.
There is a story of a 21 year old lifeguard in top condition that went to
save a seven year old child. He did the rescue improperly and the little
girl ended up drowning him.
PLEASE take some sort of lifesaving course. The life you save may be your
own.
happy safe swimming
ken
Gleshna99
>There is a story of a 21 year old lifeguard in top condition that went to
>save a seven year old child. He did the rescue improperly and the little
>girl ended up drowning him.
Urban myth for lifesaving classes?
Bob
Gleshna99
>For my backyard pool, we thought we should have some type of safety device.
>Any recommendations of pros and cons of ring buoys vs. hooks (on a
>non-telescoping pole)?
>
>
Hook.
Bob
Todd Joyce
sheppards crook (life hook) make sure it is attached to the pole with bolts
and not the plastic derlin clip that comes on nets & brushes. A first aid
kit, backboard and telephone should all be POOLSIDE as well. Do not rely on
pool alarms as they give a false sense of security. Remember - the best
safety device is human supervision!
--
Todd Joyce
President
Expert Pool & Spa, Inc.
8511 Lakeview Drive
Omaha, NE 68127-2668
402-596-1171 Voice
402-592-7916 Fax
spa...@home.com
Charlie <coks...@speedchoice.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks. - Charlie
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gazoo
This story was related to inforce the seriousness of trying to save someone
untrained. It obviously can be done but can also be very dangerous.
Charlie
should be Reach before Throw (rather than Throw before Reach, as you
suggested) Are you standing by your order?
For example, see:
http://canoe.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa110397.htm
and
http://www.sardislake.com/State_Park/Safety/safety.html
-Charlie
gazoo <ken...@sprint.ca> wrote in message
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> As a lifeguard that has tried both I can tell you that you need both. The
> safest way to save someone is in the following order...
> Talk
> Throw
> Reach
> Wade
> Row
> Swim
> Tow
> Carry
<CLIP>
j_paque
Charlie <coks...@speedchoice.com> wrote:
>Not to be confused more than we are...numerous web sites say the order
>should be Reach before Throw (rather than Throw before Reach, as you
>suggested) Are you standing by your order?
>
The Red Cross has always taught Reach-Throw-Row-Go to help
new lifeguards remember the proper sequence.
j.
Yehoshua
j_paque <j_p...@primenet.com> wrote:
>In article <93101615...@news.remarQ.com>,
>Charlie <coks...@speedchoice.com> wrote:
>>
>>For my backyard pool, we thought we should have some type of safety device.
>>Any recommendations of pros and cons of ring buoys vs. hooks (on a
>>non-telescoping pole)?
>
>to someone having trouble to tow them in. A hook I usually
>think of as something to pull someone off the bottom
>of the pool, but it can also be used by reaching it out
>to someone in trouble. It's not as easy to give to someone
>without conking them on the head inadvertantly.
In my experience, I've always found the hooks (or when working
pools where the owners thought a ring bouy was sufficient, the
ubiquitous gunk net) easier to use.
If nothing else, when stocking a pool years ago that would only be
tended part-time (but the mgmt. wanted it open when no guards were
on duty), I found that having the hooks INSTEAD of the rings did
two things:
1) people in the unfortunate position of trying to save someone
w/out training weren't goint to kill anyone by trying to win
the ring toss.
2) kids didn't think of the hooks as toys, so the lifesaving gear
wasn't chewed up when real emergencies occured.
I'd hate to be in the position of picking one over the other again,
but I'd definitely recommend the hook for a backyard pool if I had
to choose.
>Best thing
>to do is call the county health department and see what they
>require for pools in your area.
I concur inasmuch as I think this should certainly be the minimum
you have around your pool. Of course, I'd also recommend taking a
basic lifesaving course to boot, so that you'll know exactly what all
the gear is for. Both hooks and bouys can be dangerous if used
improperly.
yehoshua
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me the company of those who have found it.
j_paque
Yehoshua <yeho...@shell2.tiac.net> wrote:
>
>I concur inasmuch as I think this should certainly be the minimum
>you have around your pool. Of course, I'd also recommend taking a
>basic lifesaving course to boot, so that you'll know exactly what all
>the gear is for. Both hooks and bouys can be dangerous if used
>improperly.
>
>yehoshua
The Red Cross offers the Community Water Safety course
to fulfill this need. It's about 4 hrs with an option
1 hour water session (that's going off the top of my
head since all my materials are a good 2000 mi away
right now).
Julie
gazoo
Saving Society Canada. Yes I do agree that is the way it used to be taught.
If a rescue can be performed without any contact (direct or indirect) this
is the safest way to do so. If a person reaches out to a victim there is
some indirect contact and the risk of being pulled in. If the recuer lands
close enough to the victim, the victim my grab on causing a double drowning.
Anyone with further questions or wishing to discuss this further please feel
free to e-mail me at...
ken...@sprint.ca
ken