Do Women Like Men in Speedos?
Jerr...@webtv.net
Speedos to the beach. But I never noticed too many female
responses....which for me might be the deciding factor. So lady readers
and guys with wives and girlfriends who have uttered an opinion.
Assuming the wearer is in fitness shape...what do women prefer men to
wear at their "swimming hole"...boxer trunks or speedo types...? I need
a new suit so i will await your responses before purchasing.
Marty Wallace
<Jerr...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Perhaps you might need to improve your personality or consider plastic
surgery to attract women.
If they're not attracted to you now I doubt that a swim suit will change
things much.
Stephen Genser
authenticity and genuine-ness might be pretty high on the list.
Wearing what you are comfortable with, and what brings out your absolute
best, sounds like universal attractive qualities.
Wearing something purely because you think it will be attractive to someone
else is shallow, and combined with $0.95 will generally get you a cup of
coffee at most McDonalds...except for the guy who's resting heartbeat was 36
BPM and never goes to a McDonalds (maybe he can get his cup of coffee at
Dunkin' Donuts..... : ).
--
Stephen S. Genser
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Fouquet
USA.
By 'women' I think we all understand you to mean most women. In fact with
regards to this question you are in luck because 'most' in this case is
probably 99.9 percent. Women do not like speedos on men at this time.
Women are not wired to respond to visual cues. Of course there are
exceptions. If you wish, wear the speedo and try to snag one of these
exceptions. (Bring a book though, you'll have time to read).
A previous poster mentioned personality. He is correct. That and some
signs of some kind of stability. If you can't project this from either
personality or attitude or 'aura', then drive a Porsche. If you are younger
and are trying to attract the younger babes, don't overdo the stability too
much. You have to have some fun elements thrown in there. (Again a Porsche
will work for you here - giving a signal of financial stability as well as
the idea that you are not too stodgy).
Note: Stability doesn't have to be financial. You can also be mentally,
emotionally, spiritually, etc.,et.c, stabile, but remember these are harder
to project and you won't have a lot of time in which to send out your
message.
Back to speedos...
Many women do not find male sex organs attractive or desireable. If you
have a bulge showing, they will freak out. That and the conditioning of US
culture that speedos are a gay thing will probably dash your chances of
snagging a babe.
You really should wear what you want to wear and not worry about what others
think. But I believe that you personally could go either way with the suit
and want to wear the suit that will give you an edge with the ladies. Which
suit is not of importance to you. Therefore, you should wear the boxers.
Once you get yourself a babe, then you can wear the speedos if you wish. I
talked about wearing my speedo (nike actually) to the beach a while back and
she said how women don't like them (which I knew already of course). But
then I thought, "Hey, I'm not trying to attract women. I've got one."
Since then I've worn my speedos to the beach because they are more
comfortable and I feel more comfortable in them. Also I'm as turned off by
the prison-inspired oversized boxers as women are by the telltale bulge in a
speedo.
Here is some real irony for you - speedos are considered gay, but the
oversized boxer craze is inspired by guys having sex with each other in
prison and wearing big pants so they can slip them off quick before the
guards come.
Some people are freaked out seeing you in a speedo but if you're with the
wife and kids, they can probably rule out that you are cruising for gay
love.
Go with the boxers. As you get older and if you get married you will have
more freedom to do what you actually want. Right now what you want is to
attract babes.
Good luck.
Fouquet
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Mark Miller
<< snippage>>
> Wearing something purely because you think it will be attractive to
someone
> else is shallow, and combined with $0.95 will generally get you a cup of
> coffee at most McDonalds...except for the guy who's resting heartbeat was
36
> BPM and never goes to a McDonalds (maybe he can get his cup of coffee at
> Dunkin' Donuts..... : ).
>
> --
> Stephen S. Genser
The guy with the 36 BPM resting heart rate and a dozen pair of "Speedos" has
noticed a marked increase in staring by both males and females over the past
few years at the Y where he swims his workouts. Here's his theory...
40 years ago, boys wore Speedos or cutoffs -- about evenly divided. 40
years ago, the percentage of obese children was probably about 5-8%. Fast
forward.....
Today, the percentage of healthy, fit, proportioned children and young
adults has plummeted -- it's well under 50%... probably closer to 25%. If
you were a marketing guru for clothing or swimsuit companies with a limited
budget that could only support one campaign, would you target the minority
or the majority? After all, you can get those healthy, fit kids to wear
those ridiculous baggy knee-length swim shorts, but you'll never -- not in a
million years and a billion $ -- get those fat kids into a pair of Speedos.
So back to the staring young people. It struck me the other day that many
of these young girls and boys have NEVER in their short lifetimes seen a man
in a Speedo. Think about that! It's both amazing and frightening.
-- Mark
brian daniels
> of these young girls and boys have NEVER in their short lifetimes seen a man
> in a Speedo. Think about that! It's both amazing and frightening.
>
> -- Mark
Good point, Mark. It never occurred to me that some of these kids have
never seen a man in a speedo before. Although I should have known
this-- my kids and their friends have commented that it looks like I'm
swimming in my underwear, not a $30 swimsuit!
My real concern with this whole 'speedo' issue is this: We Yankees
like to think of ourselves as 'rugged individualists' who are not
afraid to 'do the sensible thing' (a laughable notion to non-USA
people). Well, when it comes to swimming, the sensible thing is
usually to wear 'speedos' or brief suits because of the decreased
drag. But today, even more than ever, it seems that to step outside
of the fashion mainstream is a capital offense. My kids would NEVER
consider wearing lycra biking shorts or a speedo swim suit (where did
I fail?). And, I too, am growing weary of the comments about snug
swimsuits (for men) made by my wife and her female friends. But,
alas, I continue to wear them.
-- Brian
Auro
earlier) that women do not like the bulge that is produced by men's
Speedos. I personally would rather see less of a guy and see him wear
a nice looking bathing suit, shorts style (NOT boxer shorts).
However, I don't think that men that wear Speedo's are gay, (except
for the one man who's had a huge rainbow all over them). When I see a
guy in a Speedo come into the pool area, I usually think one of two
things. Either, (1) the guy is a fast swimmer, which usually means
that they have a large ego, but not necessarily, or (2) that they are
a moron who thinks they know how to swim but doesn't. I think that
young boys should DEFINATELY wear short style bathing suits.
Generally, I don't like Speedos on men.
Fouquet
Auro <auro...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> However, I don't think that men that wear Speedo's are gay, (except
> for the one man who's had a huge rainbow all over them).
I think that the notion that guys in speedos are gay is something that is
held more by other guys. I'd also like be a little more specific on this
subject. Guys don't necessarily think that the speedo wearer is gay; rather
they think that the speedo is a gay thing. This of course gives one guy
something about which to 'razz' another guy. Most guys (especially younger
guys will avoid this as much as possible). My high school class spent most
of its time trying not to do gay things so as not to get razzed. A 'gay
thing' could at that time be described as anything other than wearing
exactly the same thing as other guys and acting exactly as other guys. For
example, if you wore a hat too early in winter, you're gay.
Fouquet
Peabody <waybackN...@excite.com> wrote in message
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> In article <43618f28.01071...@posting.google.com,
> auro...@yahoo.ca says...
>
> > As a female, and a lifeguard, I agree with the thought
> > (expressed earlier) that women do not like the bulge
> > that is produced by men's Speedos.
>
> American women, not men, who control behavior in this area.
> They definitely don't want their husbands/boyfriends wearing
> Speedos, and men just go along with this.
>
P, I think my wife is a little different about this. She said basically
that seeing me in a speedo doesn't do anything for her one way or the other.
Same thing goes for being nude. This has nothing to do with my physique. I
have a better than average display of musculature. However, she gets very
turned on if I am fixing up the house or playing with our baby.
I think the number of women who like men in speedos is very small. The
number of women who are turned off by male genitalia is not as small but
still sizable.
BillyG
of how my body looks in them. If we are going to harp on appearance then
perhaps I should point out that seeing women's saddle bags (butt) hang out
of their suits makes me naucious not to mention that seeing their ripples
and vericose veins in the legs makes me ready to hurl. How's that???
Seriously I don't take note of other people's swim attire. It's a matter of
choice and I respect that... shouldn't YOU???
Auro wrote in message <43618f28.01071...@posting.google.com>...
Swanger
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BillyG
picturing myself in a G-string but am certainly not opposed or offended by
others who may find such attire appropriate.
Swanger wrote in message ...
Benjamin Lee
good body. Just don't expect them to be gawking at you. They look in a way
that most guys are not aware they are looking. However, guys who have good
shapes and wear Speedo usually act like they are god's gift to woman. That
turns them off quickly too. No matter what you wear, if you want to attract
woman, rule number 1 is don't look at any part of their body in any
circumstance. Be safe, don't even do it behind their backs. They could read
your mind better than you know about yourself. If you are genuinely
interested in them, and you follow rule 1, you will probably get the
competitive edge over most other guys in the pool who are probably already
thinking about what they want to do with that body that walked by.
Ben
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Kerry Wilson
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>> So back to the staring young people. It struck me the other day that
many
>> of these young girls and boys have NEVER in their short lifetimes seen a
man
>> in a Speedo. Think about that! It's both amazing and frightening.
>>
>> -- Mark
>
>Good point, Mark. It never occurred to me that some of these kids have
>never seen a man in a speedo before.
I take it as a civic duty to educate them.
Chris Dunlop
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> When I see a
> guy in a Speedo come into the pool area, I usually think one of two
> things. Either, (1) the guy is a fast swimmer, which usually means
> that they have a large ego, but not necessarily, or (2) that they are
> a moron who thinks they know how to swim but doesn't.
I'm not a fast swimmer, but I didn't think I was a moron either! I know
that I don't know that much about swimming, but am learning (hence reading
this newsgroup). I bought some Speedos last autumn when I started swimming
regularly. I wanted to improve my swimming and had noticed the drag from
the shorts I had been wearing. The Speedos got rid of that drag and are
more comfy to swim in. Perhaps it's a US/UK cultural difference, but I
think you need a 3rd category, and there would be quite a lot of us in that
one!
--
Chris Dunlop
MIS, ITCS, UEA, Norwich.
c.du...@uea.ac.uk
C Jovanovic
1. That guy must be a "real" swimmer
2. That guy is either European or a real dork (or both)
3. That guy is HOT! Thank god for speedos! (shaved legs are a plus)
4. Doesn't that guy own a mirror??? Please, put on a shirt.
So it just depends on the guy. But if you have a big gut and are out of shape,
you'll look better in trunks.
Kurt
swimmer is someone who goes to the pool with the intention of working out or
swimming laps. I wear a Speedo more than I do swim shorts and have never
heard of such lunacy of someone being gay by doing so.
When I go to the beach to play, I wear the swim shorts, when I go to the
pool to SWIM I would not even dream about wearing something other than a
Speedo type suit.
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Chris Dunlop
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> I don't know of any "swimmer" who doesn't wear Speedos. What I mean by
> swimmer is someone who goes to the pool with the intention of working out
or
> swimming laps. I wear a Speedo more than I do swim shorts and have never
> heard of such lunacy of someone being gay by doing so.
>
> When I go to the beach to play, I wear the swim shorts, when I go to the
> pool to SWIM I would not even dream about wearing something other than a
> Speedo type suit.
You've got me worried here - are we talking about the same thing? I know
Speedo is a brand name, but I though in this context it meant brief tight
fitting swimming trunks. Is that right, or is everyone else talking about
body suits or something else here?
Kerry Wilson
>I think that the notion that guys in speedos are gay is something that is
>held more by other guys. I'd also like be a little more specific on this
>subject. Guys don't necessarily think that the speedo wearer is gay;
rather
>they think that the speedo is a gay thing. This of course gives one guy
>something about which to 'razz' another guy. Most guys (especially younger
>guys will avoid this as much as possible). My high school class spent most
>of its time trying not to do gay things so as not to get razzed. A 'gay
>thing' could at that time be described as anything other than wearing
>exactly the same thing as other guys and acting exactly as other guys. For
>example, if you wore a hat too early in winter, you're gay.
Agreed on this point. It's blatant peer-pressure, pure and simple.
brian daniels
> woman, rule number 1 is don't look at any part of their body in any
> circumstance. Be safe, don't even do it behind their backs. They could read
> your mind better than you know about yourself. If you are genuinely
> interested in them, and you follow rule 1, you will probably get the
> competitive edge over most other guys in the pool who are probably already
> thinking about what they want to do with that body that walked by.
>
> Ben
>
>
I think that's better-than-average advice, Ben. Treat a woman
respectfully and she will probably reciprocate. If I treat her as
"more than just a piece of meat" she will probably do the same for me.
If I allow her to wear the swimsuit of her choice, I should expect to
be able to do the same.
One gripe I have is that some comments from women (on the speedo
issue) focus purely on style or what they (women) like. They don't
consider what's practical or what makes sense for the wearer. I guess
my sense of practicality is greater than my need to be stylish-- I
hate swimming in a baggies because they are so non-hydrodynamic. I
hate emerging from the pool with half the H20 absorbed in my baggie
trunks. I hate sitting on the deck with a wet baggie suit for several
hours. Now, I'm not out to be a fashion dead-beat, but as my wife
will attest, practicality is more important to me. All I really want
is the freedom to wear what's practical (i.e., a speedo) without being
tried and convicted by the fashion-conformity police!
-- Brian
greg
Jerr...@webtv.net wrote:
> I have read some postings recently about whether men should wear
> Speedos to the beach. But I never noticed too many female
> responses....
The great North American hang up. Obviously the rest of the world must
chuckle at our immaturity with questions like this. I'll answer it this
way. Both my ex wife and current wife preferred men in speedos, but only
after they had travelled abroad with me to European and the Caribbean
beaches and seen how it was done in the rest of the world and realized that
the rest of the world doesn't think like North America does. Incidently, I
always wear a speedo, at the pool and the beach. Hey, I'm a middle aged guy
that still has a flat stomach and a tight butt, so why not.
Fouquet
>
> The great North American hang up. Obviously the rest of the world must
> chuckle at our immaturity with questions like this. I'll answer it this
> way. Both my ex wife and current wife preferred men in speedos, but only
> after they had travelled abroad with me to European and the Caribbean
> beaches and seen how it was done in the rest of the world and realized
that
> the rest of the world doesn't think like North America does. Incidently, I
> always wear a speedo, at the pool and the beach. Hey, I'm a middle aged
guy
> that still has a flat stomach and a tight butt, so why not.
>
I also have a flat stomach and tight butt, but I don't believe that this is
an issue. If one has a big fat butt and a gut named Montana should one wear
baggy suits if one prefers speedos ( or as many fat people do skip swimming
altogether)?
Many in North America feel that it is one's obligation to keep one's gross
self out of the eyes of others lest it offend. I do not agree. The nerve
of some people to pamper their own delicate constitutions that way.
If I were grotesquely obese, I would wear a thong. The mainstream is way
overdue for some form of payback for things like Britney Spears and
Survivor.
Tom H
I'm not sure there is such a US/UK cultural difference, but more a
weirdo/non-weirdo cultural difference. I got mildly concerned that I
might "offend" should I show ou at a pool in my speedos (actuall mine
are made by addidas) while on a business trip to Texas (I live in
London). I requested advice on this newsgroup and along with the
helpful information I got some personal emails thatI considered
unpleasant.
To my relief I have discovered people over here (I'm still in TX) pay
as little attention to my swimwear as they do back home. In fact, I
competed in a triathlon last weekend where guys did the whole thing
just in speedos (we have to wear a top when running/biking in UK) then
hung around in the local park just wearing speedos for a couple of
hours waiting for the results. I have no idea if the other people
using the park thought they were all gay egotistical morons, for they
did not say. I confess my modesty insisted I get showered and changed
(I was wearing a tri-suit) before I joined my fellow triathletes in
the park.
I do find Auro's comment that young boys should wear shorts worryingly
perverse!
T.
Liz D
> swimmer is someone who goes to the pool with the intention of working out or
> swimming laps. I wear a Speedo more than I do swim shorts and have never
> heard of such lunacy of someone being gay by doing so.
>
> When I go to the beach to play, I wear the swim shorts, when I go to the
> pool to SWIM I would not even dream about wearing something other than a
> Speedo type suit.
As a woman "swimmer", I have to say that I couldn't care less what
anyone else - male or female - wears to the pool. I am there to swim
and that's what I concentrate on. I have always assumed that everyone
else is there for the same reason.
When I swim with a group of (mainly) women in a workout group, I do
sometimes notice what they are wearing if they have a particularly
nice swimsuit which I would like myself. But as I am never likely to
wear men's swim briefs or shorts, I'm really not interested in them.
I think at the beach it is a different matter if you are there to
"play" rather than "swim". Personally, I have taken to wearing surf
or bike shorts over my swim suit to avoid chafing on my body board,
and I often also wear a "rash" type top as I am fair skinned and burn
easily.
Practicality rules in my book. But then I am married with 2 children
and pushing 40, so possibly not the target audience the original
poster had in mind.
Liz D
Mark Miller
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>
> I also have a flat stomach and tight butt, but I don't believe that this
is
> an issue. If one has a big fat butt and a gut named Montana should one
wear
> baggy suits if one prefers speedos ( or as many fat people do skip
swimming
> altogether)?
> Many in North America feel that it is one's obligation to keep one's gross
> self out of the eyes of others lest it offend. I do not agree. The nerve
> of some people to pamper their own delicate constitutions that way.
> If I were grotesquely obese, I would wear a thong. The mainstream is way
> overdue for some form of payback for things like Britney Spears and
> Survivor.
LMAO. Bravo.
-- Mark
Alex Rieken
and its associated stupiditity should be in a channel called
fools.stupid.fools. I look here for intelligent swimming and fitness info,
not homophobic and misinformed stereotypical crap. Go away all. PLEASE!!!
<Jerr...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I have read some postings recently about whether men should wear
> Speedos to the beach. But I never noticed too many female
George F. Grattan
> This is a rec swimming news group is it not? You are all twits. This thread
> and its associated stupiditity should be in a channel called
> fools.stupid.fools. I look here for intelligent swimming and fitness info,
> not homophobic and misinformed stereotypical crap. Go away all. PLEASE!!!
Bravo.
Sadly, Alex, this topic surfaces about once every two weeks in various
permutations. I've ceased being amazed at how much people care, or pretend
to care, about this issue one way or the other. In fairness, though, you and
I should both simply avoid reading such threads in the future- though the
train wreck fascination is what keeps me checking in on them.
I wonder if there isn't a sense in which these thread are decidedly off-
topic, since they're generally concerned with fashion and culture at large
as opposed to functionality re: swimming (ala a debate over what kind of
suit wears longest, or a discussion of the physics of the new bodysuits,
etc....)
George F. Grattan
grat...@bc.edu
"...in the end they just ask you those crappy little questions."
Robert Penn Warren, All the King's Men
4research
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>
>>snippage>>>
> If they're not attracted to you now I doubt that a swim suit will change
> things much.
>
>Ok I'll bite, (finally).
Marty, that's about the size of the whole brief Vs shorts thing. If a women
doesn't like a guy, no fashion statement or anatomical hinting is going to
improve the situation.
However, I wouldn't entirely agree that it wouldn't "change things much".
Quite on the contrary, I suspect it will only makes things worse.
There are four things about why women want to view the issue. (in my
unqualified male opinion)
Firstly, if fashion is the deciding factor rather than practicality, then
women often say they prefer a little bit of mystery. I say a LITTLE bit of
mystery and not the shorts that look like the guy's wearing his duvet.
Secondly, there are women who, for what ever reason, (maybe the 'all men are
bastards' association) are uncomfortable with masculine symbolism and
briefs are as symbolic as you can get. Under those circumstances, if a
women doesn't much care for the guy, then wearing them will just make thing
more negative.
Thirdly, There are of course women who like to watch competitive swimmers,
(who are always wearing briefs) and these women are either (or both)
watching (1) out of technical interest or companionship support, &/or (2)
for more carnal forms of amusement.
Fourthly, as someone else suggested, Peer pressure and associated response.
Not just for the guys but also for what the girls can feel comfortable about
saying they like
The associated response things works 3 ways, (i) the subconscious factors
(stereotyping), (ii) the age factor of fashion dictates, i.e. if dads wear
briefs girls will prefer the baggy look and the (iii) is the most primal
response of meeting someone who wears briefs because they have a deluded
view of their abilities, or other peoples gullibility to be impressed by
them. That's quite a turn off for women.
I don't wear baggy shorts. I did buy a pair but they're useless for
experimental swimming and not much better for the normal stuff.
Personally, I don't buy Speedos, because I've found to my cost that I can
get other brands which last much longer. As for briefs, well, I avoid them
too because I used to notice that look of annoyance from women. There was
one in particular that would glare at my crotch from the edge of the pool as
I walked back and though I never spoke to her, every time she saw me she
seemed to hate me more and more.
I wear a hip/shorts Maru (80% polyamide + 20% elastane) (they look
lycra-ish)
I can't comment on the Gay association because I neither heard of it before
nor thought of it. (not been gay, there are things I never think about) In
any case , aren't women supposed to feel more comfortable around gay guys
and wouldn't that make it a plus factor????
Ya know, there are guys who go to gay clubs to pick up women and women who
go to gay clubs, because that's where they think they'll find a better class
of guy. That said, that theory is one I can't quite get the hang of, but
it's there if you want it. ( I mean the theory not.... oh forget it(-:),
this topic is so off the wall it's amusing
aquachimp
Marty Wallace
"4research" <aqua...@aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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When I read the original post I got the impression that the person was
inquiring into whether he'd attract more women if he wore Speedos.
To me it seemed like a rather immature sort of a statement to make. Mainly
because this is a sport swimming newsgroup and I make a mental assumption
that if you're into sport swimming then how you look would rate pretty low
compared to how fast or well you swim. To talk about attracting chicks is
even more off the track for this newsgroup. To talk about fashion and gays
is really totally beside the point.
Do you think that when Ian Thorpe stands on the starting block he is
wondering if he looks gay or out of fashion? Of course not. He only wants
his swimming costume to help him cover the distance in the quickest time
possible. I'm sure if he did tests on board shorts and found those were
faster he would wear them. But that's not the case. It's all based on
performance and maybe sponsors dollars.
There are plenty of other newsgroups for discussing how to get women. Let's
discuss swimming instead.
Chuc...@webtv.net
to your question, I was thinking it would be simple responses or votes
for one or the other. Just like if you asked if women like ketchup or
mustard on their hotdogs. BUT NO....everybody had to overanalyze
it..discuss the true measure of a man...etc...and I dont know about you
but I still am not sure you got a true consensus of what women prefer to
see or NOT to see....
KD
but....ONLY under my baggy shorts which I will remove to get a tan. I am
just a SKINNY guy and will in no way go in the water with them. When I
bought it to begin with, the "kid" was laughing at me who cashed me out and
said "Thats the first pair we sold this summer"
Kerry Wilson
Welcome to the new millennium, where what you look like is more important
than how you perform...
Liz D
Don't you find it fascinating that this thread has attracted over 40
replies (if memory serves me correctly, the majority from men) yet the
thread you started on the opposite gender, ie "Do men like women in
Speedos?" attracted only a handful of responses?
Liz D
mrdancer
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Hmmm, I must've missed that one. My @ home server has been dropping about
two-thirds of the newsgroup posts over the last week, but I think it's
getting better now.
Anyway, as far as visual effect, I prefer a woman in a thong bikini.
However, if she is a serious swimmer, I prefer her in a one-piece as that
tells me she is serious about her swimming. It's really odd when you think
about it. Men wear less clothing (to the chagrin of lesser male swimmers)
to enhance their efficiency, while women wear more clothing (to the chagrin
of us women-watchers) to enhance their efficiency. Too bad we can't make
nude swimming an acceptable activity! ;-)
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Donal Fagan
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, liz_dav...@hotmail.com says...
>Don't you find it fascinating that this thread
>has attracted over 40 replies (if memory serves
>me correctly, the majority from men) yet the
>thread you started on the opposite gender, ie
>"Do men like women in Speedos?" attracted only a
>handful of responses?
Women's racing and training suits don't look all
that different from a lot of women's beachwear,
so women have no reason to feel conspicuous in
'Speedos'. (Speedos do look different than
bikinis, but who actually swims in those?)
Over the objections of my sisters and cousins, I
did wear my team suit at Dewey beach many years
ago. Even though I was in pretty good shape, I
got some funny looks and one woman was laughing
at me.
Marty Wallace
Of course most of the replies will be from men.
Men know better about what women think than women themselves do.
You can make any comment about womens issues and men will always think they
know better.
Kerry Wilson
>Don't you find it fascinating that this thread has attracted over 40
>replies (if memory serves me correctly, the majority from men) yet the
>thread you started on the opposite gender, ie "Do men like women in
>Speedos?" attracted only a handful of responses?
Fascinating indeed! Why do you think that is?
4research
Yes, I too wondered about that and am totally clueless as to why, apart form
the alledged Sandra Bullock theory.
Firstly, on a point touched on my Marty, this is a swimming NG and as
someone else (can't find it right now) suggested, the original author is
probably confused, albeit, presumably, slightly the wiser for being informed
of that.
Evidently quite confused to start of with, seeing as he is asking a swim Ng
for ;;; fashion tips with intent to loiter / lurk, albeit near an aquatic
facility. In deference to those who have commented on that stuff called
swimming.
I think the point of the thread is solely about fashion tips with intent to
loiter.
I'm drawn towards having some fun with this.
You may recall something which many women bought into called "The Rules"
i.e. on how to catch a man (like as if hunting for game, or fishing or
something)
Well I'm sure we could invent something quite as trashy for this guy, so
that he can set off happily with some er... guidelines..to attract chicks,
like as if they were some other species which requires tactics and such to
attain, rather than communication.
I'm thinking on the lines of suggesting he must only wear thongs on the
grounds that the one thing women like to check out most in men, is men's
bums.
Then I'd say he must have 28 thongs. The 28 is just to bring in a spurious
link with feminine biology, but I haven't worked out the details of why and
when.
It could be richly imbued with credibility by borrowing some existing woeful
sterotyping and to also rubber stamp each others authenticity.
So, let's say he wants to attract a blond, in which case he needs to wear
the light coloured thong to match her hair (& intellectual light-headedness)
and place a pair of mirror specs on the side to appeal to her vanity.
In order to use up some of the 28, it could be suggested that the floss bit
be of various thickness to match the 'Targets' hair lenght.
There has to be at least one pair where the floss bit can divide in two and
it should be given an almost religious relevance for that 'special someone'
To use up some more of the 28, it may be neccessary to ensure that no women
sees the same thong for more than ooooooooh, 8 minutes * 3 times, or some
quirky amount of time that sounds like something a cult would appreciate.
This may require him to have a note-pad handy to check the diary each time
he sees a potential familiar target approaching.
It could be futher suggested that given the female appreciation for male
ass, that he ensure that he dresses to the appropriate side, i.e. the floss
and not the front bit. It could be worked out that blonds should be shown
the right cheek + and all others the left ( and for that 'special someone'
wear each side seperately because it will show a certain openness to his
nature) (especially when he bends over)
It will then be vital that he conduct his posture in a certain manner
according to his interest in any chick. Contrary to any kind of
reason/logic, he should adopt an upright humanoid stance for those he's not
really keen on, but strut his stuff in a bottom up, knuckle dragging,
pre-homeosapian style for that 'special someone' so as to leave her in no
doubt that she's dealing with an arsehole..
Of course, sadly, he'll have to turn around so that she gets no more than 3
minutes view at any on time and preferably only one in any 7 hour timeslot.
The rest of the time his physical actions and posture must ridgidly follow a
pattern equal to one of those summer hits party dances (e.g. the macarana),
albiet slowed down to a distractingly precise amount.
All this, (ok, so it needs a little work), would ensure that he is so busy
following the rules that he hasn't got time to make his own mistakes and
therefore, who knows, he just might get lucky without himself getting in
the way, let alone someone else as trivial as those he wants to attract.
Or he may find a more appropriate site to enquire from next time.
aquachimp (-:
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H
say a few words... mostly after I red this reply :
>When I see a guy in a speedo, I think one of the following:
>2. That guy is either European or a real dork (or both)
What is this supposed to mean? I think (with all due respect) that US has
individuality problems. I'm European and I used to live in US too, and for a
equality-and-tolerance-self-proclaimed country you are quick to judge on
others, label them in groups (making the ones that don't comply an outcast),
preach conservatism and on the other hand privately actually behaving quite
the oposite.
Do really people in speedoes look gay? No, not really. Do they look
repulsive and should be banned off the beaches? Please. Do Europeans
generally speaking wear speedoes more than shorts to the beach? Probably. Do
you hear people saying "those dorks Americans in shorts, they are wearing
them just to fit in the common way of thinking." No. But be sure many people
think that way. I don't personally worry myself a lot about it. I used to be
a competitive swimmer, and I still go to the pool. In speedoes, as well as
to the beach, but then again, speedoes are common on the beaches here.
Shorts are objectively impractical in the water because of the size and the
drag, and they take longer to dry once they are on you.
I wouldn't be surprised if the baggy shorts were invented by guys who had
inferiority complex because of the way they looked in speedoes. So they had
to make the other ones (who didn't mind wearing speedoes, not neccessarily
because they were all athleets) look stupid. All they needed was a little
support (or ignoring :-) and we wouldn't have this problem now.
That's just my opinion and I did't mean to offend anyone.
Hrvoje
mrdancer
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> I wouldn't be surprised if the baggy shorts were invented by guys who had
> inferiority complex because of the way they looked in speedoes. So they
had
> to make the other ones (who didn't mind wearing speedoes, not neccessarily
> because they were all athleets) look stupid. All they needed was a little
> support (or ignoring :-) and we wouldn't have this problem now.
I think it's more along the lines of performance envy. Generally, your
better swimmers wear speedos. The poorer, or less experienced, swimmers
just wear trunks, because they are 1) cheaper, and 2) more readily
available. When a speedo-laden good swimmer swims circles around a
trunk-laden poor swimmer, that poor swimmer likely becomes jealous and
begins manufacturing ways of cutting down the good swimmer. The most
obvious way is to call the good swimmer gay. Ever notice how, if someone is
really good at something, there are always other people saying that they
must be gay (at least in modern times)? I'm a very good dancer, and because
of it, I get accused of being gay all of the time. It doesn't bother me,
though, because I'm not homophobic and I have no problem getting dates with
women. ;-)
Roy Mock
"mrdancer" <mrda...@home.your.underwear.com> wrote in message
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> H <hrv...@travel-around.com> wrote in message
> news:9jm4ml$44h$1...@sunce.iskon.hr...
> > I wouldn't be surprised if the baggy shorts were invented by guys who
had
> > inferiority complex because of the way they looked in speedoes. So they
> had
> > to make the other ones (who didn't mind wearing speedoes, not
neccessarily
> > because they were all athleets) look stupid. All they needed was a
little
> > support (or ignoring :-) and we wouldn't have this problem now.
>
> I think it's more along the lines of performance envy.
I'm not sure if envy is that much of an issue unless self-image is the
problem for some swimmers. For the moment, I'd put it down to comfort
level.
> Generally, your better swimmers wear speedos.
No so where I swim. It's more likely worn by regular swimmers irrespective
of their swimming prowess.
> The poorer, or less experienced, swimmers
> just wear trunks, because they are 1) cheaper, and 2) more readily
> available.
Availability is not an issue where I am.
> When a speedo-laden good swimmer swims circles around a
> trunk-laden poor swimmer, that poor swimmer likely becomes jealous and
> begins manufacturing ways of cutting down the good swimmer.
I haven't seen this conduct for the 30 years or so of swimming, so I think
this most unlikely.
> The most
> obvious way is to call the good swimmer gay. Ever notice how, if someone
is
> really good at something, there are always other people saying that they
> must be gay (at least in modern times)? I'm a very good dancer, and
because
> of it, I get accused of being gay all of the time. It doesn't bother me,
> though, because I'm not homophobic and I have no problem getting dates
with
> women. ;-)
I've never seen nor heard of this behaviour. Is this observable in the
States?
I think that speedos does not necessarily attract women. One looks good,
bad, or indifferrent irrespective what is worn.
mrdancer
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In most public pools, where you have a mix of swimmers and non-swimmers, it
seems pretty commonplace. If you swim in a pool reserved for swimmers only,
or swim only during designated swimming times in which non-swimmers are
restricted, then you don't observe such behavior. It is generally when
non-swimmers and the general public-at-large use the pool at the same time
that you can observe such behavior.
> I think that speedos does not necessarily attract women. One looks good,
> bad, or indifferrent irrespective what is worn.
Agreed.
SteveT5710
if (sex == male && residence == "USA" && fear_of_others == TRUE) {
suittype = shorts;
} else {
suittype = speedo;
}
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Steven Thomas
Lark
anyway for us guys. Has been for a few years here in the US. I said
HERE....in the US!
Yet wear what you want. I tend to be a people watcher on the beach and
as far as guy wear goes,anything goes. I seen fat guys,built guys,and
skinny guys in "speedos"/lycra. The only time I would wear "briefs" is
if I am trying to get a tan while laying down,with my shorts over the
brief. My daughter(6) asked last year: "Why are you wearing your
underwear outside?"
Roy Mock
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Superman got away with it somehow. :-)
4research
> bad, or indifferrent irrespective what is worn.
>
right on the money.
Personally I would think that any guy who already enjoys a certain level of
automatic (intuitive/visual) positive attention from women, would never even
dream of asking for fashion tips of this sort. He wouldn't need to.
aquachimp