Ariel
> He used to do Bundesliga commentary on pbs@usa eons ago.
>
I too would be interested. It's because of Charles and the show
"Soccer...Made In Germany" that I became a fan of the world game (and
Borussia Moenchengladbach) while growing up in the desolate footie
wastelands of USA. Thank God ESPN wasn't around in the 70's. I would
have missed out. ;}
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I remember Toby Charles hosting a weekly highlight show for the Bundesliga
on ESPN about 5 or 6 years ago...similar to English League Highlights show
that is now on Prime Network.
I also heard him on shortwave radio once back in the late '80's. He was
doing an English language sport report for the DeutscheWelle network
giving some field hockey scores, of all things.
As for Soccer Made in Germany, I think Toby was the commentator until
about 1983 or 1984 on PBS, then the show was renamed "German Professional
Soccer" with an announcer whose name I believe was Alan Fountain. "German
Professional Soccer" was taken off most PBS stations by the mid-80's, if I
remember correctly.
It would be nice to hear Toby's (or even Alan Fountain's) voice for a few
MLS games...
Keith
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I'd like to know, too. He is a large part of the reason I became a
Bayern fan back in the 70s.
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>He used to do Bundesliga commentary on pbs@usa eons ago.
>Ariel
Several late-night Clarke Belt ornithologists tell me that Toby
Charles does German Bundesliga games and highlights for
Prime International in English. Spin your C-band dish over to
Satcom C1 channel 17 nightly at 10pm Pacific Time to catch those feeds
during the Houston-to-LA leg of the relay (the feeds go from Houston
to LA then to Sydney/Melbourne/Hong Kong/Auckland/Bangkok/etc. )
I have never see those feeds.
OT
Excellent question! I too was a fan of "Soccer Made In Germany" when
I first came to the US in 1980. This PBS show was about my only source
of any football on the telly (and newspapers!) back then. It was the
first time I'd really seen any Bundesliga matches despite <mumble> years
of being a football-crazy fan. I particularly enjoyed watching their
coverage of International matches.
Thank God for Toby Charles! Without him or his show I would have been
totally lost without me footy!
Hey -- I subscribed to their magazine too! They used to come just a few
days before the match. It was like getting a real programme (the book
sort, not the telly sort). I still have all mine in a desk drawer at home!
I bet they're worth something now!
Cheers,
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standard disclaimer here
Hey, it wasn't *that* long ago! I used to love wathcing Soccer Made In
Germany on my local PBS station every Saturday, as well as the half-time
"News in and around West Germany" segment. It served to make me aware
that the game I was playing here in the US was truly a world sport. I
became acquainted with teams like 1 F.C. Koeln, Schalke, Borussia
Dortmund, and so forth.
Charles used to say things like, "He put it in the back of the net." and
"Look at that lovely Alsatian" (German shepard on the pitch track with a
guard). The guy is priceless!
Glad to hear from Oliver Tse that he is alive and well and still
covering the Bundesliga.
Chris
More Toby Charles sayings:
"High, wide and not too handsome"
"Look at him go"
Here's to Toby.
cjh.
>>More Toby Charles sayings:
>>"High, wide and not too handsome"
>>"Look at him go"
And we must not forget: "He's here, there, and everywhere!" when
describing players like Paul Breitner and Bernd Duernberger.
or "Same old problems with the wall." whenever the referee had trouble
getting them 9 metres back.
and one of my favorites: "That's a foul by Augenthaler....AND the yellow
card for Augenthaler!.....That's his first one of the year, by the way.
Up to now, he's been a good boy!"
or when he would put words into a player's mouth: " 'That was close!' says
Wolfgang Kleff." when the Dusseldorf keeper saw the ball graze over the
crossbar.
I could go on for hours! :-)
-Keith
Here here!
". . .Oooooooohhh, that wasn't a BAAAAAAD effort a'tall!!!"
-Will
>In article 10...@daytonoh.ncr.com, Chris Klepacz <chris....@daytonoh.ncr.com> () writes:
>>
>>Charles used to say things like, "He put it in the back of the net." and
>>"Look at that lovely Alsatian" (German shepard on the pitch track with a
>>guard). The guy is priceless!
>>
>>Chris
>More Toby Charles sayings:
>"High, wide and not too handsome"
>"Look at him go"
Another one was:
"That's six of one and half a dozen of another".
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I also spent innumerable hours of my impressionable youth watching
Soccer Made in Germany with Mr. Charles. My memory is cloudy but I seem
to recall that Schalke always played Borussia Moenchengladbach and the
score was always around 5-4. My favorite Toby expression: Klaus Fischer
rounds the keeper and rolls the ball into the empty net, long
pause....."It's there!"
PBS also aired a show featuring the English League back then called "All
Star Soccer" with a guy named Mario Machado. Those games also always had
at least 7 goals and were always played in a monsoon.
cheers, Chris
"oooh, that's a lovely ball".
Ariel
He was a great commentator, with those games with the dull bits edited
out for PBS. Wish they could edit out dull parts in real-time these
days, especially in the Bundesliga.
X
OHHHH, look at that!!! (I particularly remember him saying this to an
unbelievable move made by Zico against Venezuela in a WC82 qualifier)
and
The (Bremen, Cologne, Munich, etc.) defence was at sixes and sevens
there
and
The little Romanain genius (referring to Marcel Raducanu of Dortmund)
and
OHHH, that was a bad one!!!
Here's to Toby, wherever he may be!!! (please come back and save us from
the dreaded ESPN commentators!!)
I really began watching soccer with "Football Made in Germany" with Toby.
I beleive he still works for the English service of Deutsche Welle. I
usually listen to the German language service, but I`ve heard him within
the past 2 years. He was brilliant!
"Oh dear, what a disappointment that is!"
"Well, Cologne have it all to do now!"
--
Chuck Penfold bx...@freenet.carleton.ca
"Danger Will Robinson! Danger Will Robinson!"
>
> Charles used to say things like, "He put it in the back of the net." and
> "Look at that lovely Alsatian" (German shepard on the pitch track with a
> guard). The guy is priceless!
>
My favorite Toby Charles expression was "six of one, a half dozen the
other", which he would say that the referee saw whenever two players went
hard at a free ball and no foul was called.
I also remember SMiG showed Holland's international matches in the late
'70s and Toby would always mention the Van der Kerkhoff twins (excuse the
spelling) Willy and Rene and comment that he couldn't tell them apart
except for the fact that one wore his shirt inside his shorts; the other
outside.
There were some other gems as well. When I was in college I had a German
friend and when we played foosball we would always imitate Toby Charles to
the bewilderment of everyone else watching.
Rob
> ". . .Oooooooooohhh, and THAT wasn't-very-far off target!"
>
> Here's to Toby.
Yes, I believe that is the definitive Toby Charles aphorism!
Rob
With all these reminiscences about the great announcer, I wonder if
someone should write a Toby Charles FAQ and add it to the rec.sport.soccer
FAQ. How about a Toby Charles fan club? ;}
Just food for thought,
Cheers
> My favorite Toby Charles expression was "six of one, a half dozen the
> other", which he would say that the referee saw whenever two players went hard at a free ball and no foul was called.
>
>
What's so funny about this? Perfectly common expressions, surely?
Mike
> Greetings,
>
> With all these reminiscences about the great announcer, I wonder if
> someone should write a Toby Charles FAQ and add it to the rec.sport.soccer
> FAQ. How about a Toby Charles fan club? ;}
A pleasant idea...you start it up and plenty will add to it..
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Ted Kalivoda
University of Georgia
kali...@sb.dcs.uga.edu
#In article <31AD8F...@daytonoh.ncr.com>, Chris Klepacz
#<chris....@daytonoh.ncr.com> wrote:
#I also remember SMiG showed Holland's international matches in the late
#'70s and Toby would always mention the Van der Kerkhoff twins (excuse the
#spelling) Willy and Rene and comment that he couldn't tell them apart
#except for the fact that one wore his shirt inside his shorts; the other
#outside.
Reminds me of one of the WC 94 games I just looked at on tape. I think it
was Peter Brackley (sp?) who talked about the elder of the de Boer twins.
CvD
Yes, and I remember as well:
"Rainer Bonhof's going to take the penalty. He hasn't missed a
penalty since he was eight years old."
Also, his very courageous commentary on the Austria-West Germany
farce in 1982. Despite earning his living from the Germans, he called
it, rightly, a disgrace. (But was it an accident that a couple of weeks
later, he didn't show the awful Schumacher-Battiston foul? I wonder.)
Still, he was the best I've ever heard, and ESPN should grab him.
David Kaiser
Of course that would allow commercial interruptions without the obvious
drawback that they'd miss a goal--which was the reason why even the
vidiots@espn had to drop the commercials.
Ask and you shall receive... and regret it.
Ariel