Transfer market

[Binder Dundat]

With the quadrennial carnival coming to an end, we can get back to the
real world of football again. I like the World Cup, most people do, it
brings out new fans and makes the game popular in the less common
markets, but in my opinion, as club football spends more and more money
and becomes bigger, I can see the World Cup fading away?

I can see a team like Real Madrid or Bayern, just saying no to FIFA and
not releasing players, the amount of money spent on transfers and
salaries will get bigger and they wont want to risk players anymore. Not
to mention the compensation to the clubs is minimal. I can see more
teams doing summer tours of Asia and North America.

Anyhow, some interesting transfers happening or in negotiation or just
outright made up rumours. Toni Kroos and Hamish Rodriguez are probably
the two hottest properties to come out of the WC. The Mexican keeper,
Ochoa may land himself in a good place as well?

I am just going to include WC players for now


Diego from Atletico to Fernerbache.
Apparently in negotiations?
OK he was not a World Cup player, but this is the type of guy I would
have liked to see playing for Brazil, not these Gustavo, Fernandino,
Paulinho types.

Alexis Sanchez Barca to Arsenal
in talks
I like Sanchez, I think he is Chile's best player, I think he would do
quite well in the EPL.

Divock Okoth Origi Lille to Liverpool
in negotiations
Was he a World Cup star? I know he scored and played, but like the
Belgian team, he left no impression on me.

Mario Mandzukic Bayern to Atletico
in negotiations
I think Lewandowski is a better player then Mandzukic, but I dont think
it was a vital transfer? I could be wrong, but did they really need to
get Lewandowski, or are Bayern just trying to weaken the opposition?
Why doesnt Mandzukic join Dortmund? I think he would fit into Kloppo's
team?

Luis Suarez Liverpool to Barca
in negotiations
I think this is really going to happen?

Matt Besler Kansas City to Freiburg
in talks
Besler is not one of those German American players as far as I know?


Taylor Navas Levante to Bayern
in talks
I dont understand this one? I thought Navas was possibly the second
best keeper in this tournament, why would he want to join a team and be
a back up to Neuer? Or does bayern want to rotate keepers like in ice
Hockey? Maybe that will become the new thing in football?


Ashley Cole Chelsea to Roma
confirmed
Has the Serie A become the place where old EPl'ers go to die?

Matthias Ginter Freiburg to Dortmund
in negotiations
Ginter is actually part of the WC squad, even if he has not played yet
(has he?). JLow should have put him on instead of Per last game

more to come

[Binder Dundat]

So Mandzukic to Atletico is confirmed. Sanchez to Arsenal is all but
confirmed.

[MH]

On 14-07-10 1:16 PM, Binder Dundat wrote:
> So Mandzukic to Atletico is confirmed. Sanchez to Arsenal is all but
> confirmed.
>

Because Arsenal needs more smallish, tricky, technical attacking
midfielders/wide forwards ?

I mean Cazorla, Walcott, Oxlade, �zil, Podolski, and Gnabry are clearly
not enough....


Apparently they have also signed Debuchy. That actually makes sense -
replace Sagna with the player in his position that is ahead of him in
the France pecking order (and three years younger)

[alka...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 14-07-10 1:16 PM, Binder Dundat wrote:
>
> > So Mandzukic to Atletico is confirmed. Sanchez to Arsenal is all but
>
> > confirmed.
>
> >
>
> Because Arsenal needs more smallish, tricky, technical attacking
>
> midfielders/wide forwards ?

I think Wenger wants to play him as a pure striker.

[mehdi]

The man is an idiot. Sanchez is not a striker nor can he play as a
striker and I agree with what MH said, they don't need another midget.
Congratulations on 4th place Wenger. Idiot.


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[The Scrutineer]

"MH" wrote in message news:lpmpei$3an$1...@dont-email.me...

How about a fucking KEEPER signing?

[The Scrutineer]

"Binder Dundat" wrote in message news:lpkt5k$hma$1...@dont-email.me...

World Cup Stars Where Are They Now?

Rustu
Alpay Ayala Grosso Juan
Malouda Maniche Reyna
Vieri Jon Dahl Tomasson Wiltord

[The Scrutineer]

"mehdi" wrote in message news:lpnjka$vbn$2...@dont-email.me...

> The man is an idiot. Sanchez is not a striker nor can he play as a striker
> and I agree with what MH said, they don't need another midget.
> Congratulations on 4th place Wenger. Idiot.

Good signing, but not even Pele, Maradona, Messi or a custom made player
would complement Giroud...

The team needs a keeper signing, and quite urgently!!!

[Abubakr]

JDT was a WC star?

[The Scrutineer]

"Abubakr" wrote in message
news:f275799e-cd80-4ce2...@googlegroups.com...

> World Cup Stars Where Are They Now?
>
>
>
> Rustu
>
> Alpay Ayala Grosso Juan
>
> Malouda Maniche Reyna
>
> Vieri Jon Dahl Tomasson Wiltord
>
> JDT was a WC star?

Scored a few in 2002, I guess he wasn't a star, just have him on my missing
persons list.

Must be retired!!!

[Mark V.]

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:54:01 PM UTC-7, Be...@soccer-europe.com wrote:

>
> >> Because Arsenal needs more smallish, tricky, technical attacking

> >> midfielders/wide forwards ?

> > I think Wenger wants to play him as a pure striker.
>
>
>
> The man is an idiot. Sanchez is not a striker nor can he play as a
>
> striker and I agree with what MH said, they don't need another midget.
>
> Congratulations on 4th place Wenger. Idiot.

They are linked with a lot of players, but I think that Loic Remy is who they have
in mind as their primary striker signing this season. Sanchez may play more centrally
at Arsenal than he had for Barca, but will still play off Giroud or Remy (or whoever is signed).

[Jesus Petry]

Juan is at my Internacional.

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

[Google Beta User]

Arsenal need midfield dominator? If they had 30m, why not try 40m for Vidal or Pogba?

Hell, mascherano would've been better for them if they are picking from Barcelona

[Google Beta User]

Suarez to Barcelona done.

Neymar, Messi, Suarez strikeforce coming soon.

[Google Beta User]

[Abubakr]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:06:48 +1000, Google Beta User <wany...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Suarez to Barcelona done.
>
> Neymar, Messi, Suarez strikeforce coming soon.

And they need it too.

[The Scrutineer]

"Abubakr" wrote in message news:op.xit11urkjy8i3p@homepc...

Messi, Henry, Eto'o best ever!!!

So no Suarez for a few months, does that mean... no, I shouldn't ask... does
that mean Bojan might get a run in the meantime?

[Werner Pichler]

İlhan Mansız is now a figure skater.

Ciao,
Werner

[Sven Mischkies]

Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 11 July 2014 05:48:01 UTC+2, The Scrutineer wrote:
> > "Binder Dundat" wrote in message news:lpkt5k$hma$1...@dont-email.me...
> >
> >
> >
> > World Cup Stars Where Are They Now?
> >
> >
> > Rustu
> >
> > Alpay Ayala Grosso Juan
>
> > Malouda Maniche Reyna
> >
> > Vieri Jon Dahl Tomasson Wiltord
>
>

> ?lhan Mansız is now a figure skater.

???

*checks*

And you're not even joking.


Ciao,
SM
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[Futbolmetrix]

On 7/11/2014 10:27 AM, Sven Mischkies wrote:

> Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> ?lhan Mansız is now a figure skater.
>
> ???
>
> *checks*
>
> And you're not even joking.
>

!!!

Best of RSS.

Too bad he didn't fulfill his dream of being the only person to compete
at both the World Cup and the Winter Olympics.

But is there anyone who competed at both the WC and the Summer Olympics,
but *not* in soccer?

[The Scrutineer]

"Futbolmetrix" wrote in message news:lpou01$o8p$1...@dont-email.me...

Arjen Robben Footballer Bayern Munich/Netherlands Olympian Mens 1m
Springboard
Eric Cantona Footballer Man United/France Olympian Taekwondo

[Futbolmetrix]

On 7/11/2014 10:57 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> But is there anyone who competed at both the WC and the Summer Olympics,
> but *not* in soccer?

Here is the list of people who have competed at both the winter and
summer olympics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_athletes_who_competed_in_both_the_Summer_and_Winter_Olympic_games


There are a lot of speed skating/track cycling combos (OK), and track
and field/bobsledding ones (whatever...)

[Futbolmetrix]

Grosso coaches Juve's youth team, with mixed results. Actually, not that
mixed...

[Werner Pichler]

In bobsledding you need people who can run fast while pushing something, and
otherwise just keep their heads down.

Ciao,
Werner

[Mark V.]

On Friday, July 11, 2014 5:01:17 AM UTC-7, Google Beta User wrote:
> Arsenal need midfield dominator? If they had 30m, why not try 40m for Vidal or Pogba?


> Hell, mascherano would've been better for them if they are picking from Barcelona

They aren't done. I'm sure they'd love to have Pogba but he's going to end up with one of the
free-spending teams. But they're very likely to sign a big enough name of a holding midfielder
any day now.

[Clément]

"Futbolmetrix" escreveu:

> Here is the list of people who have competed at both the winter and summer
> olympics:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_athletes_who_competed_in_both_the_Summer_and_Winter_Olympic_games
>
> There are a lot of speed skating/track cycling combos (OK), and track and
> field/bobsledding ones (whatever...)

There's one Brazilian in this list, but from the top of my mind I can think
of at least two others. Beyond those I recall, there may be a couple more.

Abraço,

Luiz Mello

[Futbolmetrix]

The most interesting combination must be the Belgian guy doing
ice-hockey and fencing (the dude was obviously good at doing things with
a pole-like thing in his hand).

I'm surprised that there weren't more (actually, any) cross-country
skiing/marathon combinations, or cross-country skiing/road biking. Maria
Canins (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Canins) was a fairly
accomplished cross-country skier before winning a couple of Tour de
Frances. She participated in the 1984 and 1988 Summer Olympics, but
never in the winter ones.

[Werner Pichler]

The Norwegians even have an annual award for such achievements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egebergs_%C3%86respris

Ciao,
Werner

[Clément]

"Futbolmetrix" escreveu:

> I'm surprised that there weren't more (actually, any) cross-country
> skiing/marathon combinations, or cross-country skiing/road biking.

One of the Brazilians missing from the list that I mentioned, Jaqueline
Mour�o, is a cross-country biking and skiing competitor. She has competed in
two Summer and three (IIRC) Winter Olympic Games.

Abra�o,

Luiz Mello

[anders t]

Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:

>I'm surprised that there weren't more (actually, any) cross-country
>skiing/marathon combinations, or cross-country skiing/road biking.

Running around with heavy upperbody skier muscles isn't optimal at all.


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[Werner Pichler]

Bojan's rumoured to be on his way to Stoke...

Ciao,
Werner

[MH]

Really ? Who ? Sissoko ? Tiote ? They seem to like players currently at
Newcastle.

A possibility might be Guivalogui, who never really settled at Atletico.
Or Kondogbia.

[Mark V.]

On Friday, July 11, 2014 4:05:40 PM UTC-7, MH wrote:
> On 14-07-11 11:25 AM, Mark V. wrote:
>
> > On Friday, July 11, 2014 5:01:17 AM UTC-7, Google Beta User wrote:
>
> >> Arsenal need midfield dominator? If they had 30m, why not try 40m for Vidal or Pogba?

x

> >> Hell, mascherano would've been better for them if they are picking from Barcelona
>
> >
>
> > They aren't done. I'm sure they'd love to have Pogba but he's going to end up with one of the
>
> > free-spending teams. But they're very likely to sign a big enough name of a holding midfielder
>
> > any day now.

> Really ? Who ? Sissoko ? Tiote ? They seem to like players currently at
>
> Newcastle.

> A possibility might be Guivalogui, who never really settled at Atletico.
>
> Or Kondogbia.

The names I see most frequently are Khedira and Lars Bender. Maybe they're
more in the box-to-box mold...

[Binder Dundat]

On 7/11/2014 11:10 AM, The Scrutineer wrote:
> "Futbolmetrix" wrote in message news:lpou01$o8p$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> On 7/11/2014 10:27 AM, Sven Mischkies wrote:
>> Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But is there anyone who competed at both the WC and the Summer
>> Olympics, but *not* in soccer?
>
> Arjen Robben Footballer Bayern Munich/Netherlands Olympian Mens 1m
> Springboard

You cant include the Special Olympics

[Binder Dundat]

Now that this carnival is over, we can get back to real football stuff.
Like the transfer market rumours and speculation.

Gladbach finally get rid of luuk de Jong, he is going back to Holland to
PSV. He was perhaps the worst of my Bundesliga rejects in the EPl
fantasy pool last year, which is saying a lot abut his crapiness.
Actually I am not sure if he was a Newcastle player or just a loan?

Hoefully my Bundesliga Rejects will get better with S�bastien Pocognoli,
signed by West Brom ( they are still in the 1st div ?) from Hannover.

Hannover also lose the pocket Didier. Ya Konan goes to Saudi Arabia, I
always thought he was a good player, too bad he goes to his retirement
home so early.

Vidal goes to man United. Ok, this is only kicker reporting on a rumour
in Marca, the number tossed around is 40 mil. Vidal is a prime example
of how the media can elevate an average player to the status of
superstar without him actually having to be very good

Robinho is in talks to go from AC Milan to Orlando City. Where the hell
does Orlando City play? I have never heard of that team? It is not the
Orlando Pirates is it?

Kieran Richardson jumps ship at Fulham to join Aston Villa, I am not so
surprised that everyone is leaving Fulham, I am surprised that Fleix is
still the manager?

Roy Beerens joins Hertha to become the next Lasogga. Yes I realize none
of you know who Roy Beerens or Lasogga are. I think Lasogga is now
officially an HSV player? If Lasogga had played in the WC, Germany
would have won it!

that is it for now

[Bruce D. Scott]

The Scrutineer <vla...@bigpond.com> wrote:
|> "Binder Dundat" wrote in message news:lpkt5k$hma$1...@dont-email.me...
|>
|> World Cup Stars Where Are They Now?
|>
|> Rustu
|> Alpay Ayala Grosso Juan
|> Malouda Maniche Reyna
|> Vieri Jon Dahl Tomasson Wiltord

Reyna did all right actually...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Reyna

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[Binder Dundat]

Here are a list of transfers cut and paste from kicker. The first team
name is where the player is going this season. Everyone except kicker
seem to be saying Kroos has signed with Real. Apparently the player did
as well after the game yesterday?


Feyenoord Rotterdam Boulahrouz, Khalid Boulahrouz, Khalid Abwehr
14.07.2014
wechselt von
BrīŋŊndby IF

Arminia Bielefeld Dick, Florian Dick, Florian Abwehr 14.07.2014
wechselt von
1. FC Kaiserslautern

Holstein Kiel SanīŋŊ, Saliou SanīŋŊ, Saliou Sturm 13.07.2014
wechselt von
SC Paderborn 07

Eintracht Trier Garnier, Robin Garnier, Robin Mittelfeld 12.07.2014
wechselt von
1. FSV Mainz 05 II

Al Ittihad Jeddah Ya Konan, Didier Ya Konan, Didier Sturm 12.07.2014
wechselt von
Hannover 96

West Bromwich Albion Pocognoli, Sebastien Pocognoli, Sebastien
Abwehr 12.07.2014
wechselt von
Pocognoli schlieīŋŊt sich West Brom an Hannover 96

PSV Eindhoven de Jong, Luuk de Jong, Luuk Sturm 12.07.2014
wechselt von
12-Millionen-Mann de Jong wechselt nach Eindhoven Newcastle United

Vitoria Setubal Junior Ponce Junior Ponce Mittelfeld 12.07.2014
wechselt von
Alianza Lima

AS Rom Emanuelson, Urby Emanuelson, Urby Mittelfeld 12.07.2014
wechselt von
AC Mailand

Aston Villa Richardson, Kieran Richardson, Kieran Mittelfeld
11.07.2014
wechselt von
FC Fulham

FC Granada Olazabal, Oier Olazabal, Oier Torwart 11.07.2014
wechselt von
FC Barcelona

Hertha BSC Beerens, Roy Beerens, Roy Sturm 11.07.2014
wechselt von
Beerens: Ein "typischer AuīŋŊenstīŋŊrmer" fīŋŊr Hertha AZ Alkmaar

CFC Genua 1893 Matri, Alessandro Matri, Alessandro Sturm 11.07.2014
wechselt von
AC Mailand

FC Augsburg Caiuby Caiuby Mittelfeld 11.07.2014
wechselt von
Hin und Her beendet: Caiuby nach Augsburg FC Ingolstadt 04

FC Barcelona Suarez, Luis Suarez, Luis Sturm 11.07.2014
wechselt von
Perfekt: Suarez wechselt nach Barcelona FC Liverpool

Guangzhou Evergrande FC Gilardino, Alberto Gilardino, Alberto Sturm
11.07.2014
wechselt von
CFC Genua 1893

Deportivo La Coruna Cuenca, Isaac Cuenca, Isaac Sturm 11.07.2014
wechselt von
FC Barcelona

FC Villarreal dos Santos, Jonathan dos Santos, Jonathan Sturm
11.07.2014
wechselt von
FC Barcelona

FC Arsenal Sanchez, Alexis Sanchez, Alexis Sturm 10.07.2014
wechselt von
FC Barcelona

SpVgg Greuther FīŋŊrth Zulj, Robert Zulj, Robert Sturm 10.07.2014
wechselt von
Zulj wechselt zum Kleeblatt RB Salzburg

[Bruce D. Scott]

Binder Dundat <dun...@nogmail.com> wrote:
|> Here are a list of transfers cut and paste from kicker. The first team
|> name is where the player is going this season. Everyone except kicker
|> seem to be saying Kroos has signed with Real. Apparently the player did
|> as well after the game yesterday?

Nothing on fcb.de yet... I hope we get more than the 25MEUR I've heard
about if we do sell him. There was a piece about KHR definitively
ruling out any sale of Shaqiri. If Kroos leaves then Shaqiri will get a
real chance (but so will Goetze).

[Karamako]

Le 11/07/2014 05:49, The Scrutineer a �crit :
> "mehdi" wrote in message news:lpnjka$vbn$2...@dont-email.me...
>
>> The man is an idiot. Sanchez is not a striker nor can he play as a
>> striker and I agree with what MH said, they don't need another midget.
>> Congratulations on 4th place Wenger. Idiot.
>
> Good signing, but not even Pele, Maradona, Messi or a custom made player
> would complement Giroud...
>
> The team needs a keeper signing, and quite urgently!!!

They have bought Ospina, a nice guy :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV2Fb52sILo&feature=youtu.be

[Bruce D. Scott]

Radamel Falcao too, really? Apparently AS Monaco want to loan him out,
which RM can do for 12++ MEUR and then to buy him they need 33M more.
There's no place to put all those guys!

http://www.rp-online.de/sport/fussball/international/spanien/schnappt-sich-real-madrid-auch-noch-radamel-falcao-aid-1.4412537

[Binder Dundat]

So, from the WTF file, Pepe Riena signs for Bayern. I would have to
think this is the only club in Europe where he does not have the
slightest chance of becoming No. 1 keeper. Maybe he will get the odd
game due to injury? Maybe Pep will rest Neuer for some games, though I
am not sure that would be a good idea?

Or does this mean Manuel Neuer does not fit Pep Guardiola's footballing
philosophy?

Buying Spanish players was so two years ago. Costa Rican's are today!

[Bruce D. Scott]

Binder Dundat <dun...@nogmail.com> wrote:
|> So, from the WTF file, Pepe Riena signs for Bayern. I would have to
|> think this is the only club in Europe where he does not have the
|> slightest chance of becoming No. 1 keeper. Maybe he will get the odd
|> game due to injury? Maybe Pep will rest Neuer for some games, though I
|> am not sure that would be a good idea?

We had that issue in the CL and against Dortmund last year.

|> Or does this mean Manuel Neuer does not fit Pep Guardiola's footballing
|> philosophy?

Guardiola already said we need a better Nr 2, as Starke is alright for
the BLiga but not really for the CL in his opinion. Moreover, Starke
went for an operation last year which is why we used Raeder against
Dortmund and might have had to use him in the CL (he's OK perhaps up to
the 2nd BLiga), and after a back operation your comeback is uncertain
until it's done.

[Werner Pichler]

On Wednesday, 6 August 2014 11:49:20 UTC+2, Bruce D. Scott wrote:
> Binder Dundat <dun...@nogmail.com> wrote:
>
> |> So, from the WTF file, Pepe Riena signs for Bayern. I would have to
> |> think this is the only club in Europe where he does not have the
> |> slightest chance of becoming No. 1 keeper. Maybe he will get the odd
> |> game due to injury? Maybe Pep will rest Neuer for some games, though I
> |> am not sure that would be a good idea?
>
> We had that issue in the CL and against Dortmund last year.
>
> |> Or does this mean Manuel Neuer does not fit Pep Guardiola's footballing
> |> philosophy?
>
> Guardiola already said we need a better Nr 2, as Starke is alright for
> the BLiga but not really for the CL in his opinion. Moreover, Starke
> went for an operation last year which is why we used Raeder against
> Dortmund and might have had to use him in the CL (he's OK perhaps up to
> the 2nd BLiga)

After he cost your Amateurs the qualification to the 3rd Bundesliga he left
for Portugal.

Ciao,
Werner

[Binder Dundat]

In typical Hamburg fashion, HSV have been given handouts from the local,
upstanding businessman, tax evader to buy Nicolai Muller from Mainz.
Uli Hoeness would be proud.

I think Mainz may be a good relegation candidate this season.

[Bruce D. Scott]

Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
[Raeder]

|> After he cost your Amateurs the qualification to the 3rd Bundesliga he left
|> for Portugal.

I was at that game. I felt very sorry for him but football is a mean
mistress. As it happens that wasn't the first ball he under-ran in that
match, just the last and the one he couldn't recover on. It can be a
career killer.

[Bruce D. Scott]

Binder Dundat <dun...@nogmail.com> wrote:

|> I think Mainz may be a good relegation candidate this season.

Could be a Freiburg situation where they go down for one year and then
come back in a revamped guise but with the old ways intact.