Use-the-NT 2020: Match Day 4

[Futbolmetrix]

European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

Armata
DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean ©, Petagna

Babes
DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjær
MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
FW: Zlatan, Haaland ©, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

Bungs
DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Willock, Nketiah

Defaults
DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
FW: Messi ©, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

Jogo
DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
MF: Casemiro, Otávio, Taison, Willian
FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

Midgets
D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo

Pact
DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

Peaceniks
DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
FW: Salah ©, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

Rockers
DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
FW: Lozano, David, Bailey ©, Corona

Tugas
F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, André Horta
FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Leão
Waffles/Windmills
DF: Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard

Watch
DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, Götze
FW: Sané, Werner, Müller(C), Gnabry

Wonderland
DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
MF: Junuzović, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Raguž,

[Futbolmetrix]

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
>
> Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
>
> Armata
> DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
> MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
> FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean ©, Petagna

Let's start with some changes to the Armata:

DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Petagna

[MH]

Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.

I am sure I will change all this tomorrow once I see the lineups/

>
> Pact
> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
>
> Peaceniks
> DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
> MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
> FW: Salah ©, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
>
> Rockers
> DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
> MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
> FW: Lozano, David, Bailey ©, Corona

Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a Martinquais ?
Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender. Will have
to check on UEFA site.
Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid. Another
option to consider.
Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played much)
Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.

>
> Tugas
> F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
> MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, André Horta
> FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Leão
> Waffles/Windmills
> DF: Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
> MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
> FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard

I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
Ake was out injured so out with him as well. Replace with Alderweireld.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 5:53:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
> MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
> FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Petagna

Did I say Petagna? I meant Insigne. Chiesa unlikely to start, but I'll keep him in the lineup.

DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante

FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne

[Futbolmetrix]

On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 11:32:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
> Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
> Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.

Noted

> > Rockers
> > DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
> > MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
> > FW: Lozano, David, Bailey ©, Corona
> Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.

OK, but McKennie is expected to start, and probably in an advanced-ish position too, at home to Ferencvaros. You may regret this.

> Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a Martinquais ?

Don't think so.

> Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender. Will have
> to check on UEFA site.
> Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid. Another
> option to consider.

There's also Nick Blackman of Maccabi TA and Barbados.

> Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
> ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played much)
> Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?

I guess that the Roofe rule applies here. If you don't pick him for the Midgets, then he's eligible for the Rockers.

> I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.

> I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
> So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
> change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
> Ake was out injured so out with him as well. Replace with Alderweireld.

Noted.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
>

> Pact
> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

There was a slight improvement in the Pact's performance last time out, but still way too many goals left out. The Secretariat is still not happy. Let's go back to a more traditional lineup, but throw in hattrick boy Julis.

DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis

[Futbolmetrix]

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
>
> Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
>
>

> Peaceniks
> DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
> MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
> FW: Salah ©, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

Hm...Salah tested negative and is poised to return, but is that enough to make him keep the armband instead of Europa League goal-scoring machine Moanes Dabbur? Let's go with Dabbur. Also, let's put Celtic's Hatem Abd Elhamed in defense.

DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed

MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt

FW: Salah, Dabbur, Azmoun (c), Solomon, Zahavi

[Werner Pichler]

On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
>
> Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
>
>

> Bungs
> DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
> MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
> FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Willock, Nketiah

I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
in the doghouse or gets a game.

Justin, Willock out
Walker, Abraham in

DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier

MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison

FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah

> Defaults
> DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
> MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
> FW: Messi ©, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

Messi didn't travel with the team to Ukraine.

>
> Wonderland
> DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
> MF: Junuzović, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
> FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Raguž

Raguž tore his cruciate ligament against Antwerp.
Arase scored last time but is terrible.
Two youngsters in instead, Rapid's starlet Yusuf Demir and Young Boys striker
Felix Mambimbi.

Liendl in for Junuzović. Save us, Maradona of the Alps!
No idea who should be captain, let's try Baumgartner.

DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
MF: Freuler, Balić, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir


Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:26:05 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 11:32:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> >
> > Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
>
> I guess that the Roofe rule applies here. If you don't pick him for the Midgets, then he's eligible for the Rockers.

Is Mariano anywhere near the Spanish team, or has he been chasing clouds all these years?

Ciao,
Werner

[Binder Dundat]

This never ending football season is never ending. Tempted to put in the soon to be youngest player to ever play in the UCL, Dortmund do play In Brugges.

Boateng scored last week, so therefore will never score again, Hummels is back. I dont recall if Kimmich was covided or injured? I will give the oaf one more shot at captain, he is due some goals and they do play Casino. though, I am thinking Bayern may rest players, so prolly make late changes.

I am trying to limit the team with players whose names only start with G.

Oh and as for Marko Marin, he did score las week for whatever shit team he plays for in that backward shithole country he plays in

> Watch
> DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
> MF: Kimmich, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, Götze

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:01:35 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

> > I guess that the Roofe rule applies here. If you don't pick him for the Midgets, then he's eligible for the Rockers.
> Is Mariano anywhere near the Spanish team, or has he been chasing clouds all these years?

Don't know. I googled "Mariano Diaz Luis Enrique" and it looks as if every single news agency in the world picked up Mariano's desire to be called up by Spain in September 2018, but not a single article said anything about whether the interest was mutual.

So, definitely eligible for the Rockers.

[Werner Pichler]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
> >
> > Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
> >
> >
> > Bungs
> > DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
> > MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
> > FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Willock, Nketiah
> I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
> Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
> in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
> in the doghouse or gets a game.
>
> Justin, Willock out
> Walker, Abraham in
>
> DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
> MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
> FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah

Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.

Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.

DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Greenwood, Maddison

FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah

Ciao,
Werner

[MH]

Waiting....

>
>>
>> Pact
>> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
>> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
>> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
>>
>> Peaceniks
>> DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
>> MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
>> FW: Salah ©, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
>>
>> Rockers
>> DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
>> MF:  Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
>> FW:  Lozano, David,  Bailey ©, Corona
>
> Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
> Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a  Martinquais ?
> Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender.  Will have
> to check on UEFA site.
> Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid.  Another
> option to consider.
> Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
> ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played much)
> Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
> I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.

Andrade is a defender. So put him in for Morgan.

>
>
>>
>> Tugas
>> F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
>> MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, André Horta
>> FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Leão
>> Waffles/Windmills
>> DF:  Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
>> MF   Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
>> FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard
>
> I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
> So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
> change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
> Ake was out injured so out with him as well.  Replace with Alderweireld.

Wijnaldum out, Doku (Rennes) in for him.
Update and complete new lineup at 12:30 or so.

[Werner Pichler]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:15:12 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
> > >
> > > Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
> > >
> > >
> > > Bungs
> > > DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
> > > MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
> > > FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Willock, Nketiah
> > I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
> > Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
> > in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
> > in the doghouse or gets a game.
> >
> > Justin, Willock out
> > Walker, Abraham in
> >
> > DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
> > MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
> > FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah
> Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
> will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.
>
> Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.

The evil Godz begrudge me even my theorem.

Ciao,
Werner

[MH]

On 2020-11-24 10:15, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
>> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>> European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.
>>>
>>> Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bungs
>>> DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
>>> MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
>>> FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Willock, Nketiah
>> I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
>> Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
>> in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
>> in the doghouse or gets a game.
>>
>> Justin, Willock out
>> Walker, Abraham in
>>
>> DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
>> MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
>> FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah
>
> Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
> will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.
>
> Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.

Well that attempt to placate the numina of use-the-NT worked rather well.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:32:42 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> > Pact
> > DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> > MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
> > FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
> There was a slight improvement in the Pact's performance last time out, but still way too many goals left out. The Secretariat is still not happy. Let's go back to a more traditional lineup, but throw in hattrick boy Julis.
>
> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis

Tsygankov out, Buyalskiy in.

[MH]

On 2020-11-22 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Wanderson is Belgian or at least eligible for Belgium ?

[Jesper Lauridsen]

On 2020-11-22, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Babes
> DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjær
> MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
> FW: Zlatan, Haaland ©, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

What is wrong with Italian coaches? Kulusevski benched, replace him
with Moldevian Eikrem.

[MH]

Pedri back in, Fati out.
Alba out, Morata out, Ramos out.

In Nacho, Carvajal, and Dani Olmo
NEW

D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
Herrera (PSG)
F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
(Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

Doubt this will last past tomorrow morning

>>
>>>
>>> Pact
>>> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
>>> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
>>> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
>>>
>>> Peaceniks
>>> DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
>>> MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
>>> FW: Salah ©, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
>>>
>>> Rockers
>>> DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
>>> MF:  Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
>>> FW:  Lozano, David,  Bailey ©, Corona
>>
>> Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
>> Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a  Martinquais ?
>> Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender.  Will
>> have to check on UEFA site.
>> Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid.  Another
>> option to consider.
>> Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
>> ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played
>> much)
>> Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
>> I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.
>
> Andrade is a defender.  So put him in for Morgan.
>>

NEW

D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David
(Lille) Roofe (Rangers)

>>
>>>
>>> Tugas
>>> F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
>>> MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, André Horta
>>> FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Leão
>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>> DF:  Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
>>> MF   Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
>>> FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard

NEW
D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

[MH]

Sorry, that should be Doku instead of Promes there. I already put in
Doku for Wijnaldum, and he has already played.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:17:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> Wanderson is Belgian or at least eligible for Belgium ?

Apparently so, even though he counts as Brazilian for efficiency scores purposes (for the moment).

[Werner Pichler]

Greenwood on the bench. Might score as a substitute anyway, but I've got
to play the percentage.
And I need more Europa League players anyway. Winks in for the moment.

DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks

[Werner Pichler]

I had no idea, and he played a year in Austria.

Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

>
> D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
> MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
> Herrera (PSG)
> F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
> (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.

> D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
> MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
> F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David
> (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)

OK.

> D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
> MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
> FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

OK, with Doku in place of Promes.

[Jesper Lauridsen]

Some left out goals hurt.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> Some left out goals hurt.

Twice.

Lots of well picked goals and captains, though.

[Futbolmetrix]

Standings after the Tuesday matches (please correct any mistakes)

Armata 4 (Immobile 2(x2))
Babes 4 (Haaland 2(x2))
Tugas 4 (B. Fernandes 2, Ronaldo (x2))
Bungs 2 (Hudson-Odoi, Rashford)
Jogo 2 (Neymar (x2))
Pact 1 (Dzyuba)
Rockers 1 (Dest)

Everyone else on 0

[Werner Pichler]

A harsh matchday for the underdogs - Krasnodar, Rennes and Ferencváros all fell cruelly in stoppage time.
What's more, Sevilla won't be able to win their umpteenth Europa League title!


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:33:59 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

> A harsh matchday for the underdogs

> What's more, Sevilla won't be able to win their umpteenth Europa League title!

That means a glorious day for all the EL underdogs!

[Binder Dundat]

Why do I even bother, the referees are always against the German teams, while giving french teams every bogus call. Ixion was right with his conspiracy theory all along, the pro bias and endless decisions for french teams, while everything going against German teams in all competitions is just ridiculous! Like he has always said, the only French team(including the NAT team) to ever win anything without ref bribing/cheating was the Marseille win of the champions league back in 93.

In all honestly it was really bad, studs up challenges, dimaria, neymar and Mbappe diving all the time, every little call going for PSG...at one point I heard Nagelsmann(I assume) talk to a ref or linesman (in english) say something like, "certainly you must see that, you are only one metre away! I have to assume PSG have paid for the UCL this season. Bet your house on PSG, it is a sure thing.

SO Kimmich is actually injured with a Meniscus tear (dont let them take out the meniscus Josh, not even sure trimming is such a good idea)and not the covid, which I thought. According to kicker Hermann will start for the foals, for the moment kicker is suggesting Sane will not start, but I will wait before I start calling in Pretenders and PSV players.

DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter

> MF: Hermann, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, Götze

[Binder Dundat]

MF Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, Götze

FW: Sané, Werner, Müller(C), Gnabry

Hermann not starting, bring in Neuhaus

[Werner Pichler]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >

> > Wonderland

>
> DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
> MF: Freuler, Balić, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
> FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir

Gotta have to try Lazaro, after that wonder goal a while ago.
In for Balić.

DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl

[Werner Pichler]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:54:57 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
>
> DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
> MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
> FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah

Walker is being rested. Let's stick with Man City and replace him
with Stones.

DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier

[Futbolmetrix]

No love for the Swiss contingent at Gladbach?

[Werner Pichler]

Evidently too little!

Ciao,
Werner

[MH]

On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>
>>
>> D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
>> MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
>> Herrera (PSG)
>> F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
>> (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)
>
> Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.

Costa injured again. Put Granada's Molina back in.

>
>
>> D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
>> MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
>> F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David
>> (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)
>
> OK.
>

Replace Wingo with Chris Richards of Bayern.
No Herrera. Put Alvarez of Ajax back in for him
And Mariano is starting so.... put him in instead of Roofe.

>
>> D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
>> MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
>> FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)
>
> OK, with Doku in place of Promes.

De Bruyne did not play. Curses. And Carrasco counts as a forward
apparently. Him or Hazard ? I will stick with Hazard. Origi also
starting..... does he ever score except as a sub ?

I have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.
>
>

[Futbolmetrix]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

> I have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.

Well, Eden Hazard got on the scoresheet, and everywhere else they've gone on a goal strike, so efficiency scores should be quite high.

[Futbolmetrix]

Decent anti-weaufx. Lewa gets on the board just before half time.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:49:38 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Decent anti-weaufx. Lewa gets on the board just before half time.

Two quick goals by Rodrygo and Neres, and the Jogo joins the leading group with 4 goals.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:55:41 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:

> I am trying to limit the team with players whose names only start with G.

You should have gone with Gosens.

[Jesper Lauridsen]

Rodrygo has been ruled an own goal (by Hakimi, for good measure).

[Futbolmetrix]

Standings after the Wednesday matches:

Armata 4 (Immobile 2(x2))
Babes 4 (Haaland 2(x2))
Tugas 4 (B. Fernandes 2, Ronaldo (x2))

Jogo 4 (Neymar (x2), Rodrygo, Neres)
Pact 3 (Dzyuba, Lewandowski (x2))
Bungs 3 (Hudson-Odoi, Rashford, Foden)
Watch 2 (Stindl, Sané)
Rockers 1 (Dest)
Waffles/Windmills 1 (E. Hazard)
Defaults, Midgets, Peaceniks, Wonderland 0

Wide, wide open

[Futbolmetrix]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

> Rodrygo has been ruled an own goal (by Hakimi, for good measure).

UEFA keeps on UEFAing. Such blatant disregard for Brazilian football would never have happened in a FIFA-sanctioned competition.

[Jesper Lauridsen]

On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 at 20:40:04 UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

> On 2020-11-22, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Babes
> > DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjær
> > MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
> > FW: Zlatan, Haaland ©, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

> What is wrong with Italian coaches? Kulusevski benched, replace him
> with Moldevian Eikrem.

Loads of missing players + eternal september is stalled.

Revised lineup:
DF Sviatchenko & Scholz (Midtjylland), Kjær (Milan)
MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Hussain (Molde), Gudmundsson &
Karlsson (Alkmaar)
FW Isak (Sociedad), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Tankovic (AEK)
Ishak (Lech), Elyounoussi (Celtic)

[Werner Pichler]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:48:19 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderland
> >
> > DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
> > MF: Freuler, Balić, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
> > FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
>
> Gotta have to try Lazaro, after that wonder goal a while ago.
> In for Balić.

Meh. Stupid Swiss!

> DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
> MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
> FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir

Mambimbi on the bench. Balić or Gruber instead? Let's
give Gruber a chance.

Also, to atone for my lack of faith earlier this season, let's
make Liendl captain. He's one of my favourite players in the
Austrian Bundesliga anyway.

DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara, Demir

Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

No Maddison, no Vardy in the starting XI. Slackers.
How many goals has Albrighton scored in his career? *checks* Ugh.
Let's try young Barnes.

DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:14:39 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 5:53:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> Did I say Petagna? I meant Insigne. Chiesa unlikely to start, but I'll keep him in the lineup.
> DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
> MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
> FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne

Cristante out, Beltrame in.

DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Beltrame
FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:32:42 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis

Yaremchuk out. Will this be the week that CSKA Moscow finally does something for the Pact?

Chalov in.

DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Chalov, Julis

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:42:52 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
> MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
> FW: Salah, Dabbur, Azmoun (c), Solomon, Zahavi

Hmm... why did the (c) got stuck to Azmoun instead of Dabbur? Anyway, Dabbur not even on the bench, replace with Biton of Maccabi TA.

If the gamemaster allows, Zahavi captain.

DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi (c)

[Futbolmetrix]

Goals by Paulinho and Barnes. The Tugas take the overall lead, Bungs catch up with the group on 4 goals.

[Binder Dundat]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:31:00 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

I would have if I did not think he was inured/covided.

It looks like Goetze is injured or covided, so bring in Belerabi

DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter

MF Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, Belerabi

[Futbolmetrix]

Politano in for Insigne

[Werner Pichler]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:31:10 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
>
> Also, to atone for my lack of faith earlier this season, let's
> make Liendl captain. He's one of my favourite players in the
> Austrian Bundesliga anyway.

I betrayed my faith in him, he betrayed me. It's only fair.

> DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
> MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
> FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara, Demir

Demir starts on the bench, but he is Rapid's best player and
might change things around near the end... let's keep him on.

Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Goals by Paulinho and Barnes. The Tugas take the overall lead, Bungs catch up with the group on 4 goals.

Two goals by Julis, 0 goals by Chalov. The Pact reaches the Tugas on 5 goals.

Standings before the last batch of matches:

Tuga, Pact 5
Armata, Babes, Bungs 4
Jogo 3
Watch 2
Peaceniks, Waffles/Windmills, Wonderland 1

[Werner Pichler]

Who let Dele Alli out of the doghouse?
Anyway, he's more likely to score than Winks, so in he goes.

And what to do about Cap'n 'Arry, as usual on the bench?
I'll keep him on, but as it's Dele's last chance to impress
Mou, he gets the captain's armband instead.

DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Alli (c)
FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane, Nketiah


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:44:36 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

>
> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan

> FW: Lewandowski ©, Dzyuba, Chalov, Julis

Mkhitaryan not starting...but I'll keep him in anyway

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:55:55 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

> And what to do about Cap'n 'Arry, as usual on the bench?
> I'll keep him on, but as it's Dele's last chance to impress

And he rewards Mourinho's trust with a very unselfish assist to Carlos Vinicius. Very unselfish.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:45:37 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Politano in for Insigne

Yay! Armata now on top with 5

[Werner Pichler]

Adjudged as an own goal.

Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

By an Italian, at least.

Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:55:55 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:35:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:51:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:54:57 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
> > > > MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
> > > > FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah
> > > Walker is being rested. Let's stick with Man City and replace him
> > > with Stones.
> > >
> > > DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
> > > MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
> > > FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah
> > No Maddison, no Vardy in the starting XI. Slackers.
> > How many goals has Albrighton scored in his career? *checks* Ugh.
> > Let's try young Barnes.
> >
> > DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
> > MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks
> > FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane ©, Nketiah
>
> Who let Dele Alli out of the doghouse?
> Anyway, he's more likely to score than Winks, so in he goes.

I hate this game. Even more once you check out how Winks scored.

Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

But now apparently given back to Politano?

Anyway, quickie full time scores, before the full analysis.

Tugas 6 (Pizzi's 81st minute goal gives the Tugas sole possession of first place, and the 10 point bonus)
Babes, Pact, Rockers 5 (Captain Bailey, Lozano, Arfield and the Rockers rock!)
Armata 4 or 5
Bungs 4
Jogo, Wonderland 3
Waffles/Windmills, Watch 2
Defaults, Peaceniks 1
Midgets 0

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> >
> But now apparently given back to Politano?
>

And now an own goal again. Obviously, after I had done all the calculations assuming that it was a Politano goal...

[Futbolmetrix]

MD4 results and standings:

Tugas 6
F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
MF: Bruno Fernades 2, Pizzi 1, Renato Saches, André Horta
FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho 1, Cristiano Ronaldo © 1(x2), Rafael Leão

Babes 5
DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjær
MF: Skov, Hussain, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
FW: Isak, Haaland © 2(x2), Tankovic, Ishak 1, Elyounoussi

Pact 5
DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Buyalskiy, Mkhitaryan, Erokhin
FW: Lewandowski © 1(x2), Dzyuba 1, Chalov, Julis 2

Rockers 5
DF: Dest 1, Andrade, C. Richards
MF: McKennie, Reyna, Arfield 1, Alvarez
FW: Lozano 1, David, Bailey © 1 (x2), Corona, Mariano Diaz

Armata 4
DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
MF: Barella, Beltrame, Jorginho, Bernardeschi
FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile © 2 (x2), Kean, Politano

Bungs 4
DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
MF: Hudson-Odoi 1, Foden 1, Barnes 1, Alli (c)
FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford 1, Kane, Nketiah

Jogo 3
DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
MF: Casemiro, Otávio, Taison, Willian
FW: Firmino, Neymar © 1(x2), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres 1, Rodrygo

Wonderland 3
DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner 1, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara 2, Demir

Waffles/Windmills 2
DF: Meunier, De Logt, Hateboer
MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, T. Hazard
FW: Lukaku ©, E. Hazard 1, L. de Jong, Malen 1, Doku

Watch 2

DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter

MF: Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl 1, Goretzka, Bellarabi
FW: Sané 1, Werner, Müller(C), Gnabry

Defaults 1
DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
FW: Messi ©, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario 1, A. Gomez

Peaceniks 1

DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed

MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov 1, Taarabt

FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

Midgets 0
D: Nacho, Carvajal. Monreal
MF: Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz, Herrera
F: Pedri, Alcacer (c), Gerard Moreno, Molina, Olmo

MD4 Points:

Tugas 6 + 10 = 16
Babes 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
Pact 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
Rockers 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
Armata 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
Bungs 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
Jogo 3 + 0 = 3
Wonderland 3 + 0 = 3
Waffles/Windmills 2 + 0 = 2
Watch 2 + 0 = 2
Defaults 1 + 0 = 1


Overall standings after MD4:

TotGoals TotPoints
Tugas 19 39.6
Babes 19 36.08
Bungs 17 29.1
Midgets 13 24.1
Pact 14 24.08
Peaceniks 12 21.25
Armata 11 16
Rockers 10 14.93
Waffles 9 14
Defaults 7 12.75
Watch 11 12.1
Wonderland 9 11
Jogo 6 6


Finally, MD4 Best Lineups:

Armata
DF:
MF: Parolo
FW: Immobile 2 (x2)

Babes
DF: Wendt
MF:
FW: Haaland 2(x2), Braithwaite 2, Ishak

Bungs
DF: Thomas
MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks [Madueke]
FW: Sancho (x2), Rashford, Nelson, Balogun, Vardy

Defaults
DF:
MF:
FW: Alario (x2)

Jogo
DF:
MF: Wanderson, Fransergio, Lucas Moura
FW: Carlos Vinicius 2 (x2), Neymar, Neres

Midgets
DF:
MF: Baena, Castillejo
FW: Munir (x2), Morata, Alberto Soro

Pact
DF: Hancko
MF: Gromov, Yurchenko, Lingr
FW: Julis 2 (x2), Dzyuba, Lewandowski, Kabaiev, Schick

Peaceniks
DF: Mazraoui
MF: El Musrati, Refaelov
FW: Shviro (x2)

Rockers
DF: Dest
MF: Arfield
FW: Lozano (x2), Bailey, Roofe

Tugas
DF:
MF: Bruno Fernandes 2 (x2), Sergio Oliveira, Pizzi, Gonçalo Ramos
FW: Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulinho

Waffles/Windmills
DF:
MF: Gravenberch, Gerkens
FW: E. Hazard (x2), Gakpo, Malen

Watch
DF: Gosens
MF: Stindl, Demirbay
FW: Sané (x2), Berisha

Wonderland
DF: Elvedi
MF: Baumgartner, Knasmüllner
FW: Kara 2 (x2), Embolo

[MH]

On 2020-11-25 12:37, MH wrote:
> On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
>>> MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
>>> Herrera (PSG)
>>> F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
>>> (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)
>>
>> Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.
>
> Costa injured again. Put Granada's Molina back in.

Diaz out, Alcacer out.
David Silva in, Bautista (Real Sociedad) in and captain..
>
>>
>>
>>> D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
>>> MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
>>> F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David
>>> (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)
>>
>> OK.
>>
>
> Replace Wingo with Chris Richards of Bayern.
> No Herrera.  Put Alvarez of Ajax back in for him
> And Mariano is starting so.... put him in instead of Roofe.


Wingo back in, Andrade out.


>
>>
>>> D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
>>> MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
>>> FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)
>>
>> OK, with Doku in place of Promes.
>
> De Bruyne did not play.  Curses. And Carrasco counts as a forward
> apparently.  Him or Hazard ?  I will stick with Hazard. Origi also
> starting..... does he ever score except as a sub ?

Tielemans out, Praet in.
>
> I  have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.
>>
>>
>

[MH]

On 2020-11-26 10:52, MH wrote:
> On 2020-11-25 12:37, MH wrote:
>> On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
>>>> MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
>>>> Herrera (PSG)
>>>> F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
>>>> (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)
>>>
>>> Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.
>>
>> Costa injured again. Put Granada's Molina back in.
>
> Diaz out, Alcacer out.
> David Silva in,  Bautista (Real Sociedad) in and captain..

Silva and Bautista and Molina out,

Portu and Merino (Real Sociedad) and Soldado (Granada - new Captain) in

[MH]

Rockers were also on one (Dest) but now on 5 (Arfield, Bailey X2 ,
Lozano) and a missed one by Roofe.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 10:27:52 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> On 2020-11-26 10:52, MH wrote:
> > On 2020-11-25 12:37, MH wrote:
> >> On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> > Diaz out, Alcacer out.
> > David Silva in, Bautista (Real Sociedad) in and captain..
> Silva and Bautista and Molina out,
>
> Portu and Merino (Real Sociedad) and Soldado (Granada - new Captain) in

All these changes showed up in my feed just now. I'll update the lineups, but no effect on the scores, as far as I can tell.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:29:03 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> Tugas 6
> F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
> MF: Bruno Fernades 2, Pizzi 1, Renato Saches, André Horta
> FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho 1, Cristiano Ronaldo © 1(x2), Rafael Leão

It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.

>
> Babes 5
> DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjær
> MF: Skov, Hussain, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
> FW: Isak, Haaland © 2(x2), Tankovic, Ishak 1, Elyounoussi

Same for the Babes and Haaland

> Pact 5
> DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Buyalskiy, Mkhitaryan, Erokhin
> FW: Lewandowski © 1(x2), Dzyuba 1, Chalov, Julis 2

Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.

> Rockers 5
> DF: Dest 1, Andrade, C. Richards
> MF: McKennie, Reyna, Arfield 1, Alvarez
> FW: Lozano 1, David, Bailey © 1 (x2), Corona, Mariano Diaz

Big result for the Rockers in the fight to avoid the wooden spoon.

>
> Armata 4
> DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
> MF: Barella, Beltrame, Jorginho, Bernardeschi
> FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile © 2 (x2), Kean, Politano

Armata miraculously hanging in there. Parolo's goal killed the possibility of a perfect efficiency score.

> Bungs 4
> DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
> MF: Hudson-Odoi 1, Foden 1, Barnes 1, Alli (c)
> FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford 1, Kane, Nketiah

Some inspired picks by the Bungs manager, but also lots of left-out goals.

> Jogo 3
> DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
> MF: Casemiro, Otávio, Taison, Willian
> FW: Firmino, Neymar © 1(x2), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres 1, Rodrygo

The Jogo is not been managed very actively, but on the whole Brazilian players have been very quiet this year.

> Wonderland 3
> DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
> MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner 1, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
> FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara 2, Demir

A missed captain opportunity here?

> Waffles/Windmills 2
> DF: Meunier, De Logt, Hateboer
> MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, T. Hazard
> FW: Lukaku ©, E. Hazard 1, L. de Jong, Malen 1, Doku

Waffles/Windmills struggling this year.

> Watch 2
> DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
> MF: Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl 1, Goretzka, Bellarabi
> FW: Sané 1, Werner, Müller(C), Gnabry

Without Marko Marin to anchor the team, it's been difficult for the Watch.

> Defaults 1
> DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
> MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
> FW: Messi ©, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario 1, A. Gomez

More active management by the Defaults wouldn't have helped much here.

> Peaceniks 1
> DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
> MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov 1, Taarabt
> FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

A step back for Peace.

> Midgets 0
> D: Nacho, Carvajal. Monreal
> MF: Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz, Herrera
> F: Pedri, Alcacer (c), Gerard Moreno, Molina, Olmo

A surprising blank for the Midgets.

> MD4 Points:
>
> Tugas 6 + 10 = 16
> Babes 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
> Pact 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
> Rockers 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
> Armata 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
> Bungs 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
> Jogo 3 + 0 = 3
> Wonderland 3 + 0 = 3
> Waffles/Windmills 2 + 0 = 2
> Watch 2 + 0 = 2
> Defaults 1 + 0 = 1

That Pizzi goal was worth more than 5 points in the overall standings, could prove decisive.

>
> Overall standings after MD4:
>
> TotGoals TotPoints
> Tugas 19 39.6
> Babes 19 36.08
> Bungs 17 29.1
> Midgets 13 24.1
> Pact 14 24.08
> Peaceniks 12 21.25
> Armata 11 16
> Rockers 10 14.93
> Waffles 9 14
> Defaults 7 12.75
> Watch 11 12.1
> Wonderland 9 11
> Jogo 6 6

It's starting to look like a two-way race at the top, with the Bungs still with an outside chance to get back into it. Midgets, Pact and Peaceniks make up the comfortable mid-table. From the Armata on downwards it's a race to avoid the wooden spoon.

>
> Bungs
> DF: Thomas
> MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks [Madueke]
> FW: Sancho (x2), Rashford, Nelson, Balogun, Vardy

A remarkable variety of scorers for the Bungs.

[HASM]

Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> writes:

> It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo

> Same for the Babes and Haaland

Maybe in previous years. CR7 has one, Haaland has six goals and it is
an easy © choice.

> ... CR ...plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.

This here, yes, D. Jota 4, Pizzi 4, Paulinho 4, B. Fernandes 3,
S. Oliveira 3. It's tempting to move the © to one of them, but then the
weaufx gods will have CR scoring a couple of hat tricks.

> That Pizzi goal was worth more than 5 points in the overall standings,
> could prove decisive.

Those F1 points don't change the ranking that much, probably
statistically expected.

-- HASM

[HASM]

Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> writes:


> Finally, MD4 Best Lineups:

> Tugas
> DF:
> MF: Bruno Fernandes 2 (x2), Sergio Oliveira, Pizzi, Gonçalo Ramos
> FW: Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulinho

I don't remember seeing Gonçalo Ramos has having scored. He shows up
with zero goals on the UEFA. Livesoccertv has Tavernier(o.g.) and Pizzi,
as the scorers for Benfica.

-- HASM

[Werner Pichler]

Yes, like the Napoli goal this was changed some time afterwards.
I kind of have to agree with that, it was a pretty big deflection:
https://streamja.com/OnKR7

As for Politano/Anastasio, it's really anybody's guess:
https://streamja.com/Jo9pX
https://gfycat.com/impeccablefoolhardyatlasmoth


Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:33:59 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:29:03 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > Bungs 4
> > DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
> > MF: Hudson-Odoi 1, Foden 1, Barnes 1, Alli (c)
> > FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford 1, Kane, Nketiah
>
> Some inspired picks by the Bungs manager, but also lots of left-out goals.
>

> > Bungs
> > DF: Thomas
> > MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks [Madueke]
> > FW: Sancho (x2), Rashford, Nelson, Balogun, Vardy
>
> A remarkable variety of scorers for the Bungs.

It doesn't help me that with Kane and Vardy two of the most reliable scorers
play in the Europa League, where they are only deployed if the match happens
to shape up badly, like for Leicester in Braga.

Also, Balogun WTF?


Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:33:59 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:29:03 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > Tugas 6
> > F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
> > MF: Bruno Fernades 2, Pizzi 1, Renato Saches, André Horta
> > FW: João Félix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho 1, Cristiano Ronaldo © 1(x2), Rafael Leão
>
> It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.

Portuguese players have seriously impressed in recent times. Despite some hiccups,
their clubs have performed consistently, too.

> > Babes 5
> > DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjær
> > MF: Skov, Hussain, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
> > FW: Isak, Haaland © 2(x2), Tankovic, Ishak 1, Elyounoussi
>
> Same for the Babes and Haaland

I'm very curious what will happen in summer. E.g. Man City are in dire need
of a striker to replace Agüero. To not have gone broke for him last winter
because he had 'only' done it in the Austrian League looks like a major
oversight now.

> > Pact 5
> > DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
> > MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Buyalskiy, Mkhitaryan, Erokhin
> > FW: Lewandowski © 1(x2), Dzyuba 1, Chalov, Julis 2
>
> Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.

The kid is soon 26 and only exploded this season. Curious to see where his
career will take him from here.

> > Rockers 5
> > DF: Dest 1, Andrade, C. Richards
> > MF: McKennie, Reyna, Arfield 1, Alvarez
> > FW: Lozano 1, David, Bailey © 1 (x2), Corona, Mariano Diaz
>
> Big result for the Rockers in the fight to avoid the wooden spoon.

Definitely. Knew they could be competitive.

> > Wonderland 3
> >
> > DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
> > MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner 1, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
> > FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara 2, Demir
>
> A missed captain opportunity here?

True, but worst of all I haven't found the balance between Swiss
and Austrian players yet. Of course I'm a bit partial there, too.

> > Waffles/Windmills 2
> > DF: Meunier, De Logt, Hateboer
> > MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, T. Hazard
> > FW: Lukaku ©, E. Hazard 1, L. de Jong, Malen 1, Doku
>
> Waffles/Windmills struggling this year.

The Belgian clubs are a bit weird. Among the countries with a
similar performance in the UEFA ranking (Russia, Netherlands, Austria,
Scotland, Ukraine,...) they are by far the best in terms of depth
(Genk, Brugge, Gent, Anderlecht, Standard Liège all contributing in
more or less equal measure) and at the same time the worst in terms
of points collected by the top team (none of the above comes close
to Ajax, Shakhtar, Celtic, Salzburg, even Copenhagen)


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 9:32:45 AM UTC-5, HASM wrote:

> Those F1 points don't change the ranking that much, probably
> statistically expected.

Well, they do change them enough to make a difference. Tugas and Babes have the same number of goals, but Tugas with a clear advantage in the rankings. And a two-goal advantage over the Bungs translates into a full 10-point lead.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 3:49:50 PM UTC+1, HASM wrote:
> > I don't remember seeing Gonçalo Ramos has having scored. He shows up
> > with zero goals on the UEFA. Livesoccertv has Tavernier(o.g.) and Pizzi,
> > as the scorers for Benfica.
> Yes, like the Napoli goal this was changed some time afterwards.
> I kind of have to agree with that, it was a pretty big deflection:
> https://streamja.com/OnKR7
>

Thanks. I will update the efficiency score rankings.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:22:15 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

> > It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.
> Portuguese players have seriously impressed in recent times. Despite some hiccups,
> their clubs have performed consistently, too.

Yes. Favorites for Euro 2021?

> >
> > Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.
> The kid is soon 26 and only exploded this season. Curious to see where his
> career will take him from here.

But being a late bloomer is not that uncommon for big, tall strikers. He actually broke out already in the first half of 2020 when on loan at Sigma Olomouc.

[Werner Pichler]

Very true. Rapid's target man Ercan Kara, who could've single-handedly saved the Wonderland score,
had failed in Austria's third division at the age of 20; went back to the fourth division where he became
top scorer; also became top scorer in the third division the next year; then played successfully just half
a season in the second league; was snatched up by Rapid and now at 24 scored two fine goals in the
Europa League. You can literally see how he's playing with relish, just enjoying the opportunity.

Ciao,
Werner

[HASM]

>> Portuguese players have seriously impressed in recent times. Despite
>> some hiccups, their clubs have performed consistently, too.

> Yes. Favorites for Euro 2021?

Defense will be the key, and it is a bit lacking.

Can PT even come out of the group stage? With a few exceptions here and
there, PT doesn't do well against France and Germany. It would have to
be draw both and beat Hungary, but Hungary is getting better too. Maybe
another three tie for best third masterpiece.

-- HASM

[Jesper Lauridsen]

On 2020-11-26, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:

This one only showed up on Eternal Septemper today.

[Werner Pichler]

Where do players with that profile go in the end?

Exactly, MLS.

Ciao,
Werner