Is Tuchel...

[Al Kamista]

...the most overhyped manager in recent times?

I believe the answer is a resounding yes.

[MH]

On 2024-02-11 06:50, Al Kamista wrote:
> ...the most overhyped manager in recent times?
>
> I believe the answer is a resounding yes.

Possibly, though maybe Pochettino, Nagelsmann and others could give him
a run for his money.

What is your view on replacements for Klopp? I hope they would not be
foolish enough to go with Gerrard. A lot of hype about Xabi Alonso, and
he is certainly doing well with Leverkusen, but he is still relatively
inexperienced as a coach.

[Al Kamista]

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> On 2024-02-11 06:50, Al Kamista wrote:
> > ...the most overhyped manager in recent times?
> >
> > I believe the answer is a resounding yes.
> Possibly, though maybe Pochettino, Nagelsmann and others could give him
> a run for his money.
>
> What is your view on replacements for Klopp?

It's a terrible blow. There is no manager in this world that can punch above their weight like Klopp, not even Guardiola. He guided LFC to 1 title, 2 second place finishes (both times 1 point behind City), and 3 CL finals with 1 victory. All with the 8th highest net-spend in the EPL during his time.

> I hope they would not be
> foolish enough to go with Gerrard.

No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers. We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard and Solksjaer.

> A lot of hype about Xabi Alonso, and
> he is certainly doing well with Leverkusen, but he is still relatively
> inexperienced as a coach.

Alonso seems to be the leading candidate. De Zerbi potentially #2. It's hard to know what they are thinking though as FSG keeps their dealings very hush-hush.

[Blueshirt]

Al Kamista wrote:

> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>
> > I hope they would not be
> > foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
>
> No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.

No, and I mean NO, Liverpool fan I know wants Steven Gerrard to
manage Liverpool... anymore. The Saudi Arabia thing seems to have
pissed a lot of them off. His rep has gone way down.

> We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
> and Solksjaer.

I can't understand the logic that because a player played well for
Club A they will make a good manager for Club A. Playing and
managing football clubs are two different things, so to me it's a
non sequitur.

[MH]

On 2024-02-14 07:29, Blueshirt wrote:
> Al Kamista wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>
>>> I hope they would not be
>>> foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
>>
>> No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.
>
> No, and I mean NO, Liverpool fan I know wants Steven Gerrard to
> manage Liverpool... anymore. The Saudi Arabia thing seems to have
> pissed a lot of them off. His rep has gone way down.

I would assume that would be the case, but you never know - remember
Souness?

>
>> We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
>> and Solksjaer.
>
> I can't understand the logic that because a player played well for
> Club A they will make a good manager for Club A. Playing and
> managing football clubs are two different things, so to me it's a
> non sequitur.

Some do surprise. There was no reason to believe Zidane would make a
good manager - in fact, things about his personality made me think the
opposite.

[Al Kamista]

There is Guardiola as well. But then you have Xavi. Guardiola and Zidane are the 2 big exceptions. I am not convinced that Zidane is all that. The sample size is too small and he inherited a stellar squad at RM.

[MH]

On 2024-02-16 06:17, Al Kamista wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 12:56:13 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>> On 2024-02-14 07:29, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> Al Kamista wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope they would not be
>>>>> foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
>>>>
>>>> No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.
>>>
>>> No, and I mean NO, Liverpool fan I know wants Steven Gerrard to
>>> manage Liverpool... anymore. The Saudi Arabia thing seems to have
>>> pissed a lot of them off. His rep has gone way down.
>> I would assume that would be the case, but you never know - remember
>> Souness?
>>>
>>>> We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
>>>> and Solksjaer.
>>>
>>> I can't understand the logic that because a player played well for
>>> Club A they will make a good manager for Club A. Playing and
>>> managing football clubs are two different things, so to me it's a
>>> non sequitur.
>> Some do surprise. There was no reason to believe Zidane would make a
>> good manager - in fact, things about his personality made me think the
>> opposite.
>
> There is Guardiola as well.

I think there was reason to believe Pep would be good based on his
leadership qualities as a player, and his record coaching within the
organization. Zidane's disciplinary record and lack of coaching made me
doubt he would work well, given that other prominent coaches had not
lasted long at RM.

[Binder Dundat]

and to finish the statement,
...about to get fired?

Yes