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Lléo

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Jun 24, 2012, 8:42:40 PM6/24/12
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So, as you were all wondering today who would be the Euro's last
semifinalist, on this side of the Atlantic an old hero of the tournament was
successfully finishing an inglorious uphill battle with his hometown club.

The Argentinian second division (Primera B Nacional) came to a close this
sunday. Top two teams directly promoted, 3rd and 4th placed ones go to a
playoff against the top division's 17th and 18th placed ones. Before this
round, the table was:

River Plate 70
Instituto 70
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Quilmes 69
Rosario Central 69
(5th place too far down to reach them)

...so it was basically a matter of deciding who would go up directly and who
would have to face the dreaded Promoción playoff.

In the end, the automatically promoted teams were the ones that faced what I
have just nicknamed the "Brown Brothers". With two goals by David Trezeguet
(who, 12 years ago, was scoring France's Euro 2000 title winning goal),
River Plate beat Almirante Brown 2-0 at El Monumental, thus securing its
return to the first division and the title of Primera B Nacional. Quilmes
was away to Guillermo Brown and also won 0-2. Their happiness was the other
side of a coin that meant disaster for Instituto, from Córdoba: having
hovered around the top two spots of the table for most of the championship,
and now depending only on themselves to secure automatic promotion, maybe
even the title, they lost 0-3 at home to Ferro Carril Oeste, who sleepwalks
in midtable mediocrity, with nothing to play for. Rosario Central also
disappointed, losing 3-2 away to already relegated Desamparados.

But it is Instituto who have the most reasons to regret, as their choke job
has rewarded them with a playoff against San Lorenzo, another one of
Argentina's Big Five who is currently undergoing a serious crisis. Rosario
Central, for its part, will have to face San Martín in the other playoff.

So, I guess it's "welcome back" to River Plate, and "good luck" to San
Lorenzo. As for Instituto, nothing against them, but here's another team
tasting how cruel football's ways can be.

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Lléo

Bruce D. Scott

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Jun 24, 2012, 11:21:58 PM6/24/12
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=?iso-8859-1?B?TGzpbw==?= (lle...@lycos.nospam.com) wrote:

[...]
: In the end, the automatically promoted teams were the ones that faced what I
: have just nicknamed the "Brown Brothers". With two goals by David Trezeguet

Ah, nice to hear of him!

[...]

: So, I guess it's "welcome back" to River Plate, and "good luck" to San
: Lorenzo. As for Instituto, nothing against them, but here's another team
: tasting how cruel football's ways can be.

Cruel indeed, when the Gods of Self Doubt do you in even when the
referees are merciful :-)

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ciao,
Bruce

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Clément

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Jun 25, 2012, 10:51:48 AM6/25/12
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"Lléo" escreveu:
> Rosario Central also disappointed, losing 3-2 away to already relegated
> Desamparados.

Wow. Just a few days after the Argentinian pyramid gave us one of the most
badass club names in the entire universe (Los Cuervos del Fin del Mundo),
now it gives us... this.

Desamparados = "unprotected", "helpless", "abandoned", "unsupported".

Desamparados' Spanish Wikipedia entry
(http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Sportivo_Desamparados) tells us it is
"the second winningest team in the San Juan province". The second.

If I were a fan, I would be feeling kind of down this morning. Same as
yesterday. And tomorrow.

=)

Abraço,

Luiz Mello

Futbolmetrix

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Jun 25, 2012, 12:21:26 PM6/25/12
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On 6/24/2012 8:42 PM, Lléo wrote:
>
> In the end, the automatically promoted teams were the ones that faced
> what I have just nicknamed the "Brown Brothers". With two goals by David
> Trezeguet (who, 12 years ago, was scoring France's Euro 2000 title
> winning goal),

13 goals in 18 matches for Trezegol. Hasn't lost his scoring touch. I
hope he can carry this form into the Primera as well.

D

Sven Mischkies

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Jun 25, 2012, 12:51:04 PM6/25/12
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Clément <lcmello...@terra.com.br> wrote:

> "Lléo" escreveu:
> > Rosario Central also disappointed, losing 3-2 away to already relegated
> > Desamparados.
>
> Wow. Just a few days after the Argentinian pyramid gave us one of the most
> badass club names in the entire universe (Los Cuervos del Fin del Mundo),
> now it gives us... this.


The raven from the end of the world? Nice.


> Desamparados = "unprotected", "helpless", "abandoned", "unsupported".
>
> Desamparados' Spanish Wikipedia entry
> (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Sportivo_Desamparados) tells us it is
> "the second winningest team in the San Juan province". The second.
>
> If I were a fan, I would be feeling kind of down this morning. Same as
> yesterday. And tomorrow.
>
> =)


Why did they chose that name? And why the club above?


Ciao,
SM
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Clément

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Jun 25, 2012, 1:20:42 PM6/25/12
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"Sven Mischkies" escreveu:
> Clément wrote:
>> Desamparados = "unprotected", "helpless", "abandoned", "unsupported".
>>
>> Desamparados' Spanish Wikipedia entry
>> (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Sportivo_Desamparados) tells us it is
>> "the second winningest team in the San Juan province". The second.
(...)
>
> Why did they chose that name? And why the club above?

According to Wikipedia, the club' founding members were reunited at Plaza
Desamparados (Desamparados Square) and couldn't come up with anything
better.

Regarding the Cuervos, there's no word on Wikipedia about the reasoning
behind the club's name.

Abraço,

Luiz Mello

Jesus Petry

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Jun 25, 2012, 3:04:27 PM6/25/12
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Based on their logo, I'm pretty sure it's an homage to San Lorenzo.

By the way, both teams (Desamparados and Cuervos) were represented in the last ImpedCopa (which I've posted about last year, being played inside the now demolished Eucaliptos, stadium used in WC 1950). Desamparados even won the whole thing!

Next Saturday, I'll be playing in the sixth edition, defending the very well chosen colors of Princesa do Solimões!

http://impedimento.org/2012/06/25/112-homens-e-o-destino-que-se-exploda/

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

Clément

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Jun 25, 2012, 3:18:24 PM6/25/12
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"Jesus Petry" escreveu:
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 2:20:42 PM UTC-3, Clément wrote:
>> Regarding the Cuervos, there's no word on Wikipedia about the reasoning
>> behind the club's name.
>
> Based on their logo, I'm pretty sure it's an homage to San Lorenzo.

But of course. Thanks for making the connection!

> By the way, both teams (Desamparados and Cuervos) were represented in the
> last ImpedCopa (which I've posted about last year, being played inside the
> now demolished Eucaliptos, stadium used in WC 1950). Desamparados even won
> the whole thing!
>
> Next Saturday, I'll be playing in the sixth edition, defending the very
> well
> chosen colors of Princesa do Solimões!

Fun stuff. How do you do it? Is there an agreed theme, or each team just
chooses its name?

Good luck in the tournament!

Abraço,

Luiz Mello

Jesus Petry

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Jun 25, 2012, 3:27:06 PM6/25/12
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We subscribe, the organizers pick a few nice names from real clubs and the players are sort of randomly distributed among the teams (one goalkeeper for each, of course, plus other positional/quality considerations).

> Good luck in the tournament!

Thank you!

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

Lléo

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Jun 25, 2012, 10:54:33 PM6/25/12
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"Clément" escreveu na notícia da mensagem:jsadfc$4qq$1...@dont-email.me...
> "Jesus Petry" escreveu:
> > By the way, both teams (Desamparados and Cuervos) were represented in
> > the
> > last ImpedCopa (which I've posted about last year, being played inside
> > the
> > now demolished Eucaliptos, stadium used in WC 1950). Desamparados even
> > won
> > the whole thing!
> >
> > Next Saturday, I'll be playing in the sixth edition, defending the very
> > well
> > chosen colors of Princesa do Solimões!

:-) Man, the flashbacks from the old "Tabelão da Placar"...

> Fun stuff. How do you do it? Is there an agreed theme, or each team just
> chooses its name?
>
> Good luck in the tournament!

Seconded! Score a few goals for us in the rss crowd!

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Lléo

Lléo

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Jun 25, 2012, 11:07:56 PM6/25/12
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"Clément" escreveu na notícia da mensagem:js9trg$rqs$1...@dont-email.me...
I think that, right now, Rosario Central fans can relate. Instituto fans,
too :-)

In the Argentinian lower divisions, other personal favorite club names are
Excursionistas, El Porvenir and the inimitable Chaco For Ever. No, this last
one is NOT in Paraguay :-)

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Lléo

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