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Google Beta User
Jan 20, 2012, 11:48:54 AM1/20/12
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What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
micromanaged and policed FFS?
They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
micromanaged and policed FFS?
They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
El Kot
Jan 20, 2012, 1:53:57 PM1/20/12
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Google Beta User wrote:
> What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> micromanaged and policed FFS?
What are you talking about, and why? Is there suddenly a news item
> What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> micromanaged and policed FFS?
related to it?
> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
highly obnoxious. If I were a ref, I'd show a yellow to everybody that
waved one in front of me. That's what they ask, and they'd get it. :)
I'm surprised that refs don't do it - it's a straight insult - giving
uncalled for advice.
MH
Jan 20, 2012, 2:39:53 PM1/20/12
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little bit of time between the incident, the ref's whistle and the
imaginary waving
Clément
Jan 20, 2012, 2:58:56 PM1/20/12
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"Google Beta User" escreveu:
to win decisions by exerting pressure on the referee.
> Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> micromanaged and policed FFS?
No.
> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
I didn't see his T-shirt, but I agree that funny (or inspiring) T-shirt
messages would be a nice thing to have.
Problem is, once you open this door, you also open the door for offensive or
inappropriate messages as well. Where do we draw the line, and who's to
judge what's appropriate and what's not?
Abraço,
Luiz Mello
> What's so offensive about that?
Players have no business complaining about referee decisions, nor attempting
to win decisions by exerting pressure on the referee.
> Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> micromanaged and policed FFS?
> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
messages would be a nice thing to have.
Problem is, once you open this door, you also open the door for offensive or
inappropriate messages as well. Where do we draw the line, and who's to
judge what's appropriate and what's not?
Abraço,
Luiz Mello
Moog
Jan 20, 2012, 5:11:57 PM1/20/12
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Google Beta User wrote on 20/01/2012 :
> What's so offensive about that?
Offensive? Probably nothing.
> What's so offensive about that?
Unprofessional? Quite clearly.
To even try to get an opposition player sent off is bringing the game
into disrepute. It's almost as bad as diving, or should I have called
it "simulation"?
> Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be micromanaged and policed FFS?
wavers need to be micromanged and policed FFS.
> They'll strangle the passion out of the game.
> I mean Balotelli getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just
> ridiculous.
--
Moog
They know where things are in B&Q. And they’ve got The Joy Of Sex video
- HMHB
Antonio Veranos
Jan 20, 2012, 5:48:06 PM1/20/12
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[Google Beta User, wany...@gmail.com]
[Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:48:54 -0800 (PST)]
: What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
: micromanaged and policed FFS?
Some things should, yes. The reaction should be simple... "oh, you'd
like to see a card? Here you go..."
As for times when the players surround the official, also simple... pull
out the cards and wave them around until the players are gone.
--
"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they
can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho
[Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:48:54 -0800 (PST)]
: What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
: micromanaged and policed FFS?
Some things should, yes. The reaction should be simple... "oh, you'd
like to see a card? Here you go..."
As for times when the players surround the official, also simple... pull
out the cards and wave them around until the players are gone.
--
"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they
can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho
Abubakr
Jan 20, 2012, 6:11:55 PM1/20/12
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On 1/21/2012 3:48 AM, Google Beta User wrote:
> What's so offensive about that?
What's so offensive with simulation? I agree.
> What's so offensive about that?
>Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> micromanaged and policed FFS?
become a joke in terms sportsmanship, which is almost completely
non-existent. "Do whatever you can to gain an advantage" is basically
the motto.
I recently saw some matches on tape from the mid 80's from major
championships and it wasn't even half as bad. The game really has sunk low.
> They'll strangle the passion out of the game.
Machiavellian asshole on the field of play either.
>I mean Balotelli
> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
issues.
--
“I think nothing of popping up at centre-half or full-back. We are all
footballers and as such should be able to perform competently in all 11
positions.” -Alfredo Di Stefano
Jussi Uosukainen
Jan 21, 2012, 2:13:51 AM1/21/12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
--
/jussi
Hey, we can't really be dumb, if we're just following God's Orders.
After all, He wrote this book here. And in the book he says: "He made
us all to be just like Him" so ... If we're dumb ... Then God is dumb
... And maybe even a little ugly on the side!
* Frank Zappa
Clément
Jan 21, 2012, 6:55:49 AM1/21/12
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"Jussi Uosukainen" escreveu:
badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long way
to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
Meanwhile, FIFA clings on to this BS talk that any technological help would
be "undermining" the referee's position.
Abraço,
Luiz MEllo
> Google Beta User wrote:
>> What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
>> micromanaged and policed FFS?
>>
>> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
>> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
>
> this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
>> What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
>> micromanaged and policed FFS?
>>
>> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
>> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
>
> this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long way
to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
Meanwhile, FIFA clings on to this BS talk that any technological help would
be "undermining" the referee's position.
Abraço,
Luiz MEllo
Jussi Uosukainen
Jan 21, 2012, 7:52:39 AM1/21/12
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Clément <lcmello...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> "Jussi Uosukainen" escreveu:
>> Google Beta User wrote:
>>> What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
>>> micromanaged and policed FFS?
>>>
>>> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
>>> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
>>
>> this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
>
> This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
> badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long way
> to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
>
Yes, exactly. This "respect" campaing feels hollow and pointless when
> "Jussi Uosukainen" escreveu:
>> Google Beta User wrote:
>>> What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
>>> micromanaged and policed FFS?
>>>
>>> They'll strangle the passion out of the game. I mean Balotelli
>>> getting a yellow for that awesome t-shirt was just ridiculous.
>>
>> this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
>
> This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
> badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long way
> to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
>
every single player continues to talk back to the ref about every sinlge
decision. Let the players show their passion by playing the game, leave
the refereeing (though poor) to the refs. Maybe that will provide some
insentive for the refs to improve.
> Meanwhile, FIFA clings on to this BS talk that any technological help would
> be "undermining" the referee's position.
>
> Abraço,
>
> Luiz MEllo
>
/jussi
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt...
And then it's just hilarious!"
* Faith No More
Antonio Veranos
Jan 21, 2012, 8:06:05 AM1/21/12
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[Jussi Uosukainen, ju...@iki.fi]
[Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:52:39 GMT]
: > This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
think. (Only player permitted to speak to the official is the captain,
anyone else who so much as breathes in his direction is carded, etc.)
[Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:52:39 GMT]
: > This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
: > badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long way
: > to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
: >
: Yes, exactly. This "respect" campaing feels hollow and pointless when
: every single player continues to talk back to the ref about every sinlge
: decision. Let the players show their passion by playing the game, leave
: the refereeing (though poor) to the refs. Maybe that will provide some
: insentive for the refs to improve.
It may seem extreme, but the rugby solution would be quite good, I
: > to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
: >
: Yes, exactly. This "respect" campaing feels hollow and pointless when
: every single player continues to talk back to the ref about every sinlge
: decision. Let the players show their passion by playing the game, leave
: the refereeing (though poor) to the refs. Maybe that will provide some
: insentive for the refs to improve.
think. (Only player permitted to speak to the official is the captain,
anyone else who so much as breathes in his direction is carded, etc.)
Starcade
Jan 21, 2012, 8:03:22 PM1/21/12
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End. Of. Story.
There's too much potential for unrest at the top soccer stadiums for
FIFA to allow any different.
Mike
Starcade
Jan 21, 2012, 8:03:57 PM1/21/12
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On Jan 20, 10:53 am, El Kot <etcher...@acm.org> wrote:
> Agree about the Balotelli shirt. However, waving imaginary cards is
> highly obnoxious. If I were a ref, I'd show a yellow to everybody that
> waved one in front of me. That's what they ask, and they'd get it. :)
> I'm surprised that refs don't do it - it's a straight insult - giving
> uncalled for advice.
It's dissent. It's unsporting conduct. It might not even be a
> Agree about the Balotelli shirt. However, waving imaginary cards is
> highly obnoxious. If I were a ref, I'd show a yellow to everybody that
> waved one in front of me. That's what they ask, and they'd get it. :)
> I'm surprised that refs don't do it - it's a straight insult - giving
> uncalled for advice.
yellow, if it's accompanied by some colorful language.
Mike
Starcade
Jan 21, 2012, 8:05:10 PM1/21/12
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On Jan 20, 2:48 pm, Antonio Veranos <goal@4thegunners!.com> wrote:
> [Google Beta User, wanyik...@gmail.com]
If they actually enforced The Laws of the Game on many of these
contests, the matches would routinely be abandoned under same.
Too much money to allow the referees to do their damned jobs.
Mike
> [Google Beta User, wanyik...@gmail.com]
> [Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:48:54 -0800 (PST)]
>
> : What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> : micromanaged and policed FFS?
>
> Some things should, yes. The reaction should be simple... "oh, you'd
> like to see a card? Here you go..."
>
> As for times when the players surround the official, also simple... pull
> out the cards and wave them around until the players are gone.
There's a simple reason for that:
>
> : What's so offensive about that? Does EVERYTHING in the game have to be
> : micromanaged and policed FFS?
>
> Some things should, yes. The reaction should be simple... "oh, you'd
> like to see a card? Here you go..."
>
> As for times when the players surround the official, also simple... pull
> out the cards and wave them around until the players are gone.
If they actually enforced The Laws of the Game on many of these
contests, the matches would routinely be abandoned under same.
Too much money to allow the referees to do their damned jobs.
Mike
Antonio Veranos
Jan 21, 2012, 8:46:03 PM1/21/12
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[Starcade, darkst...@gmail.com]
[Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:05:10 -0800 (PST)]
: There's a simple reason for that:
[Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:05:10 -0800 (PST)]
: There's a simple reason for that:
:
: If they actually enforced The Laws of the Game on many of these
: contests, the matches would routinely be abandoned under same.
:
: Too much money to allow the referees to do their damned jobs.
Falkner, the adults are talking. Please don't interrupt.
: If they actually enforced The Laws of the Game on many of these
: contests, the matches would routinely be abandoned under same.
:
: Too much money to allow the referees to do their damned jobs.
Clément
Jan 27, 2012, 11:00:19 AM1/27/12
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"Jussi Uosukainen" escreveu:
> Clément wrote:
>> "Jussi Uosukainen" escreveu:
for not tolerating dissent, if we think about it.
It's a hard enough job as it is; there's no need for players to make it
harder by disrupting the environment.
Abraço,
Luiz Mello
> Clément wrote:
>> "Jussi Uosukainen" escreveu:
>>> this:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
>>
>> This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
>> badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long
>> way
>> to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
>>
> Yes, exactly. This "respect" campaing feels hollow and pointless when
> every single player continues to talk back to the ref about every sinlge
> decision. Let the players show their passion by playing the game, leave
> the refereeing (though poor) to the refs. Maybe that will provide some
> insentive for the refs to improve.
And even the fact that referees often do a bad job is yet another argument
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM&sns=fb
>>
>> This illustrates the point perfectly, thanks. This is something football
>> badly needs, including the referee microphone. Transparency goes a long
>> way
>> to make sure rules are enforced and respected.
>>
> Yes, exactly. This "respect" campaing feels hollow and pointless when
> every single player continues to talk back to the ref about every sinlge
> decision. Let the players show their passion by playing the game, leave
> the refereeing (though poor) to the refs. Maybe that will provide some
> insentive for the refs to improve.
for not tolerating dissent, if we think about it.
It's a hard enough job as it is; there's no need for players to make it
harder by disrupting the environment.
Abraço,
Luiz Mello
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