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GFHA...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca

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Jul 14, 1994, 3:32:53 PM7/14/94
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The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?



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Kent Lind

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Jul 14, 1994, 6:26:15 PM7/14/94
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<GFHA...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca> wrote:
>The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
>seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?

The Rose Bowl is by far the largest stadium in the Cup this year.
Although I'm not positive I think Stanford Stadium at over 80,000 would
be second. I'm not sure if you're asking which current Cup stadiums are
the largest or which stadiums in the US are largest. Aside from the Rose
Bowl, most of the largest US stadiums are actually Division I College
football stadiums not pro stadiums. The Michigan Stadium is over 100,000
and a lot of teams in the Big 10 and SEC have huge stadiums that hold
over 90,000 (Ohio State, Penn State, Tennessee, Florida, are a few off
the top of my head).

Kent


Carlos Wexler

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Jul 14, 1994, 6:43:01 PM7/14/94
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In article <16FF3B075S...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca>,


If you're asking about the biggest in the world then I believe it is the
Maracana~ stadium in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, which can hold 200,000 fans!
It was built for the WC'50.
C.Wexler

Goutam Chattopadhyay

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Jul 14, 1994, 10:34:57 PM7/14/94
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In article <16FF3B075S...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca>, GFHA...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca writes:
|> The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
|> seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?
|>

I think, it is Larkana (sp?) stadium in Brazil, but not very sure on that.
I know that the seating capacity of the Salt Lake stadium in Calcutta, India
is 120K and it is supposedly the biggest in Asia.

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mcsdc...@dct.ac.uk

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Jul 15, 1994, 9:43:28 AM7/15/94
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I think the biggest is in Rio with a capacity of about 150,000 but I'm not
sure about the rest although the Nou Camp,Barcelona(120,000 approx), the
Stadium of Light,Lisbon(100,000 plus) and the stadium in Moscow(100,000 plus)
must be in the top 5.

Jeffrey L Nauss

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Jul 15, 1994, 9:00:58 AM7/15/94
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In article <304f1l$c...@news.u.washington.edu> wex...@u.washington.edu (Carlos Wexler) writes:
->In article <16FF3B075S...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca>,
-> <GFHA...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca> wrote:
->>The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
->>seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?
->
->If you're asking about the biggest in the world then I believe it is the
->Maracana~ stadium in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, which can hold 200,000 fans!
->It was built for the WC'50.

Yeah, but can you see anything? Is it double decked? How far are you
from the field if you are in the top seats?


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James Anthony Webb

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Jul 15, 1994, 9:45:11 PM7/15/94
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kent...@u.washington.edu (Kent Lind) writes:

>The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
>seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?

Yeah I heard on telly that the Rose Bowl was the largest stadium in the
World Cup but I gotta tell ya it looked tiny compared to the (3 levels of)
Stanford Stadium. My eyes must be playing tricks on me.

James.

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Ed Suranyi

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Jul 16, 1994, 4:05:04 PM7/16/94
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In article <307e37$m...@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>,

James Anthony Webb <jwe...@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> wrote:
<kent...@u.washington.edu (Kent Lind) writes:
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<>The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
<>seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?
<
<Yeah I heard on telly that the Rose Bowl was the largest stadium in the
<World Cup but I gotta tell ya it looked tiny compared to the (3 levels of)
<Stanford Stadium. My eyes must be playing tricks on me.

The Rose Bowl is the largest stadium in the United States, but as
others have pointed out, there are several larger ones elsewhere in the
world.

Ed
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Fernanda Barbosa

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Jul 15, 1994, 4:07:27 AM7/15/94
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In article <16FF3B075S...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca>, you write:
|> The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
|> seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?
|>
|>
|>

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|> BRAZIL WORLD CUP CHAMPS 94
|> Gord
|> BNCR


I don't know about the top 5 but the biggest stadium is MARACANA in Rio de
Janeiro, BRAZIL. I think the seat capacity is 130000/150000 (I'm not sure) but
in the final of 1950's World Cup, there were 190000 approximately.

Fernanda

Kent Lind

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Jul 16, 1994, 11:19:33 PM7/16/94
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>In article <16FF3B075S...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca>, you write:
>|> The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
>|> seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?
>
>I don't know about the top 5 but the biggest stadium is MARACANA in Rio de
>Janeiro, BRAZIL. I think the seat capacity is 130000/150000 (I'm not sure) but
>in the final of 1950's World Cup, there were 190000 approximately.

Since I've been wondering this too, I checked the Guiness Book of World
records. Maracana is the biggest with about 150,000 seats and a total
capacity of around 200,000. (no I can't imagine standing room of 50,000
either). Second largest is a stadium in Sao Paulo Brazil that holds
around 140,000. Aztec Stadium in Mexico City holds around 107,000 and
the Rose Bowl is listed as the largest in the US and 5th largest in the
world. I never could figure out which other stadium is in the top 5,
maybe the Olympic stadium in Moscow?

Kent

Daniel L Smith

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Jul 16, 1994, 11:13:36 PM7/16/94
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In <309ehg$g...@lll-winken.llnl.gov> e...@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:

> In article <307e37$m...@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>,


> <Yeah I heard on telly that the Rose Bowl was the largest stadium in the
> <World Cup but I gotta tell ya it looked tiny compared to the (3 levels of)
> <Stanford Stadium. My eyes must be playing tricks on me.

Stanford is basically one big level that goes almost all the
way around (big gap where videoscreen is). One part of it has what
looks to be more luxurious seating on a separate level, and then there's
a press section, but it's not that substantial compared to the rest of
the place. One thing about Stanford that sucks (especially considering
the price of WC tickets) is that all of the seating is on aluminum benches
(was wood before they upgraded for the WC) with engraved numbers. I went
to 6 WC games there, and can say that some sections had a quite a few
more people than official seats.

> The Rose Bowl is the largest stadium in the United States, but as
> others have pointed out, there are several larger ones elsewhere in the
> world.

Rose Bowl is larger than the L.A. Colisseum before the
earthquake? I know that used to seat ~100,000. Doubt if they'll
restore it to that capacity when they fix it.

Anyone here actually been to Manacara (Rio, Brasil) when it
was mostly full? I've been around 50,000+ screaming Brazil fans,
and am trying to imagine ~130,000!

Daniel


p.s. Bay Area trivia (would like to know): what's the seating capacity
of the Cal Bears stadium?
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> In article <30a805$4...@news.u.washington.edu>, kent...@u.washington.edu (Kent Lind) writes...

> >>In article <16FF3B075S...@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca>, you write:
> >>|> The Rose Bowl seats appr. 100,000 but which stadium has the largest
> >>|> seating capacity? What are the top five in seating capacity?
> >>
> >>I don't know about the top 5 but the biggest stadium is MARACANA in Rio de
> >>Janeiro, BRAZIL. I think the seat capacity is 130000/150000 (I'm not sure) but
> >>in the final of 1950's World Cup, there were 190000 approximately.
> >
> >Since I've been wondering this too, I checked the Guiness Book of World
> >records. Maracana is the biggest with about 150,000 seats and a total
> >capacity of around 200,000. (no I can't imagine standing room of 50,000
> >either). Second largest is a stadium in Sao Paulo Brazil that holds
> >around 140,000. Aztec Stadium in Mexico City holds around 107,000 and

Aztec Stadium was modified for the WC'86. It now seats 115,000 people.

> >the Rose Bowl is listed as the largest in the US and 5th largest in the
> >world. I never could figure out which other stadium is in the top 5,
> >maybe the Olympic stadium in Moscow?
> >

>
> ummmmmm, what about the stadium in Guadlajhara, Mexico? Does anyone know
> where it ranks? I remember about 120,000 people attended the Mexico World
> Cup final.

The final was in Aztec Stadium, not in Jalisco Stadium in Guadalajara
(largest stadium in the city). Jalisco Stadium seats approx. 85,000
people.


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Jim Grove

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Jul 17, 1994, 7:22:51 PM7/17/94
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Well, actually, I think the Rose Bowl WAS the biggest in the USA.

For the WC tournament, the capacity was officially 92k+. (Final game attendance
was about 94K. I do not know if this seating capacity is permanent or
temporary, but the capacity used to be about 104K+. If the reduction is
permanent, that would mean that the stadia at U. Michigan and U.Tennessee are
both bigger than the Rose Bowl. I think the Los Angeles Coliseum (track & field
at the olympics, LA Raiders(I think)) is bigger also.

Jim

SASKAL RICHARD TRNKOCZY

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Jul 17, 1994, 8:15:39 PM7/17/94
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US Stadiums: I believe U of Michigan stadium in Ann Arbor is the largest
at about 106,000. The Rose Bowl seats 103K for US Football but they evidently
had to take a lot of seats out to accomodate the larger soccer surface.

Stephen Mc Varnock

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Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).


Antonio Jorge Gomes de Almeida Marques

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The Stadium of Light ( Estadio da Luz ) can hold 120,000 approx... It's as big as Nou Camp ...

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The biggest one is by far the Maracana, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.

220 000 seats...

Don't know if it conforms with European regulations and standards, however. It
is quite old.

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In <CLAUDE.94J...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp>, cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:
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>Stephen> Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the
>Stephen> largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs
>Stephen> Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).
>
>I think you must be wrong. 134,000 is a typical attendance for a
>weekend match in Maracana stadium at Rio de Janeiro... :-) I am sure
>that in Maracana, they had more than 200,000 attendants....
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I've been there in the early 80's or late 70's in a Brasil X Paraguai game that had an
attendance of 184,000. At that time was the new record.

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E Carr

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In article <Ct4MB...@bfsec.bt.co.uk>, smcv...@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Mc Varnock) writes:

|> Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).
|>

I think the largest crowd was for the world cup final
between Brasil and Uruguay at the Maracana stadium.
The crowd was 199000. I think the European record
was actually an Aberdeen Celtic game with a crowd
146 000 (?).

Stephen Mc Varnock

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Jul 19, 1994, 3:59:31 AM7/19/94
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my apologies...but it is some sort of record...european crowd attendance maybe?


Wilfried Paus

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|> In article E...@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil, rn...@nps.navy.mil () writes:
|> >In <CLAUDE.94J...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp>, cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:
|> >>
|> >>Stephen> Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the
|> >>Stephen> largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs
|> >>Stephen> Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).
|> >>
|> >>I think you must be wrong. 134,000 is a typical attendance for a
|> >>weekend match in Maracana stadium at Rio de Janeiro... :-) I am sure
|> >>that in Maracana, they had more than 200,000 attendants....
|> >>
|> >I've been there in the early 80's or late 70's in a Brasil X Paraguai game that had an
|> >attendance of 184,000. At that time was the new record.
|> >

I always thought that the 1950 final where Uruguay won against Brazil at Maracana
had an attendance of more than 200,000. Anybody got the correct number?

Thanks,

Wilfried

R.P. AUGOOD

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In article <Ct4MB...@bfsec.bt.co.uk> smcv...@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Mc Varnock) writes:
>From: smcv...@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Mc Varnock)
>Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE BIGGEST STADIUM?
>Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:02:22 GMT


Wrong. The record is 200,000 for a game in South America. At the Maracana I
think.

Rich.

Marcus V Bianchi

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Jul 19, 1994, 10:10:12 AM7/19/94
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In article <CLAUDE.94J...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp> cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:
>
>Stephen> Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the
>Stephen> largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs
>Stephen> Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).
>
>I think you must be wrong. 134,000 is a typical attendance for a
>weekend match in Maracana stadium at Rio de Janeiro... :-) I am sure
>that in Maracana, they had more than 200,000 attendants....

In the final of WC 1950 the attendance was over 200,000...

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Regards,

Marcus Bianchi <bia...@ecn.purdue.edu>

Kevin Steward

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I know that Hampden Park *HAD* the record but that was set in the 1920's
or so. It was 134,000. Back then that was a BIG crowd.

But yes it is Maracan that has the record now.
In recent years it topped the 200,000 mark.


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In article 94Jul1...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp, cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:
>
>Stephen> Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the
>Stephen> largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs
>Stephen> Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).
>
>I think you must be wrong. 134,000 is a typical attendance for a
>weekend match in Maracana stadium at Rio de Janeiro... :-) I am sure
>that in Maracana, they had more than 200,000 attendants....
>
>
>
I beleive 218,000 is the record at Maracana Stadium. I also beleive that there is
a large stadium in Sao Palo. Anyone know for sure????

Jim Takats

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Rainer Freis

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Could anybody please give me some information about big stadia outside
Europe (name, city, capacity)?

Thanks

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BillJordan

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In article <1994Jul19....@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>,
wilf...@solution.maths.unsw.edu.au (Wilfried Paus) writes:

>I always thought that the 1950 final where Uruguay won against Brazil at
>Maracana
>had an attendance of more than 200,000. Anybody got the correct number?

There was no final in 1950; it was all round robin (the only time).

SP

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Biggest in the world is the Spartakiadni stadium in Prague, Czech Republic.
Its not used for football but has a capacity of 250,000.

Mr Matthew Moriarty

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smcv...@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Mc Varnock) writes:

>In article E...@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil, rn...@nps.navy.mil () writes:
>>In <CLAUDE.94J...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp>, cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:
>>>
>>>Stephen> Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the
>>>Stephen> largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs
>>>Stephen> Rangers.....the capacity is now only 50,000(i think).
>>>
>>>I think you must be wrong. 134,000 is a typical attendance for a
>>>weekend match in Maracana stadium at Rio de Janeiro... :-) I am sure
>>>that in Maracana, they had more than 200,000 attendants....
>>>
>>>//Claude Huss, Network Research Engineer, Matsushita Electric Works Tokyo Labs.
>>>//"Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment."
>>>// -- Mail transmitted in recycled Internet packets --
>>
>>I've been there in the early 80's or late 70's in a Brasil X Paraguai game that had an
>>attendance of 184,000. At that time was the new record.


Hastings Town has a record attendance of 240,000 spectators. Or maybe that was
just a dream....

Matt

rub...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

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Jul 21, 1994, 5:38:43 PM7/21/94
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>> I beleive 218,000 is the record at Maracana Stadium.
>> I also beleive that there is
>> a large stadium in Sao Palo. Anyone know for sure????
>>
>> Jim Takats
>>

I am from Rio de Janeiro, and I lived a couple of blocks from
Maracana. I went to classic final championship matches between
Vasco X Flamengo in Maracana, where the announced number of
tickets sold was approximately 184,000.

If you add to that the people who get in the stadium for free:
reporters, journalists, those who have permit to sell hot dogs and
drinks inside the stadium, those who own private chairs, those
who know someone inside the stadium, the fans from organized "torcidas"
who get in the stadium at 10:00AM to set up the show (members
of organized fan groups don't pay if they show up early), ..., then
you can expect to see about 200,000 people or a little bit more in the
stadium.

For those who never experienced, being alive at Maracana during a
classic football match on a Sunday afternoon is one of the MOST EXCITING
THINGS in the world. There are samba schools, flags, fireworks, beer,
lots of scratch papers,.... and the people sing during the entire game.
Besides that you still have all the pre-game excitment. Just think
that people there in Brazil are really crazy about football. That, plus
the fact that "cariocas" (people from Rio) like to party a lot, besides
being very friendly, outgoing, and spontaneous. This whole thing make
the show at the stadium even better.


BRASIL ! BRASIL !! BRASIL !!! BRASIL !!!

CAMPEA~O ! BI-CAMPEA~O !! TRI-CAMPEA~O !!! TETRA-CAMPEA~O !!!!


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Brazil: the WC'94 Champion,
Vasco : the Rio de Janeiro State '94 Champion.

HARNEK SINGH

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In article <Ct4MB...@bfsec.bt.co.uk> smcv...@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Mc Varnock) writes:
>From: smcv...@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Mc Varnock)
>Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE BIGGEST STADIUM?
>Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:02:22 GMT

>In article b...@news.u.washington.edu, kent...@u.washington.edu (Kent Lind) writes:


134,000! Are you kidding?! Maracana stadium in Brazil holds up to 200,000
people.

David Littlewood

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Jul 26, 1994, 9:08:00 AM7/26/94
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: >Hampden Park in Scotland holds the world record for the largest football-crowd attendace...134,000 for Celtic vs Rangers.....the ca


: 134,000! Are you kidding?! Maracana stadium in Brazil holds up to 200,000
: people.

I think the match at Hampden you are referring to is the
record attendance for a domestic game. If my memory
serves me correctly, it was for the Scottish Cup Final
of 1949 and Rangers won 2-1.

Dave Littlewood

Mike Reeves

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Jul 25, 1994, 6:17:58 PM7/25/94
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rub...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:

: For those who never experienced, being alive at Maracana during a

: classic football match on a Sunday afternoon is one of the MOST EXCITING
: THINGS in the world. There are samba schools, flags, fireworks, beer,
: lots of scratch papers,.... and the people sing during the entire game.
: Besides that you still have all the pre-game excitment. Just think

OK, I'll show my ignorance here, what are scratch papers?

Mike

Sergio Adeff

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In article m...@ccd.harris.com (Mike Reeves) writes:
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>OK, I'll show my ignorance here, what are scratch papers?
>
>Mike

Cue: watch the Final of WC78 and you'll have the very best demonstration.
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Paolo Catasti

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Jul 27, 1994, 1:37:34 PM7/27/94
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In article <315qn0$s...@Tut.MsState.Edu> cca...@cotton.vislab.olemiss.edu (Sergio Adeff) writes:
>In article m...@ccd.harris.com (Mike Reeves) writes:
>>OK, I'll show my ignorance here, what are scratch papers?
>
>Cue: watch the Final of WC78 and you'll have the very best demonstration.

*laugh* It seems to be a common trend for Argentinian games though.

I think they mostly use phone books. In Italy you hardly find phone
books in pay phones near stadiums in big cities because they are all
used to make scratch papers for football games.

Cheers,

Paolo Catasti

Lokeswara Rao

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Jul 27, 1994, 4:31:02 PM7/27/94
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In article <31660u$p...@newshost.lanl.gov>,

Paolo Catasti <p...@transposon.lanl.gov> wrote:
>I think they mostly use phone books. In Italy you hardly find phone
>books in pay phones near stadiums in big cities because they are all
>used to make scratch papers for football games.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paolo Catasti

Seems like toilet paper - is better. you can throw the roll, it goes
further into the field, and unrolls, looks more fun too...

Lokes.


Paolo Catasti

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In article <1994Jul27....@selway.umt.edu> lo...@selway.umt.edu (Lokeswara Rao) writes:
>In article <31660u$p...@newshost.lanl.gov>,
>Paolo Catasti <p...@transposon.lanl.gov> wrote:
>>I think they mostly use phone books. In Italy you hardly find phone
>>books in pay phones near stadiums in big cities because they are all
>>used to make scratch papers for football games.
>Seems like toilet paper - is better. you can throw the roll, it goes
>further into the field, and unrolls, looks more fun too...

Oh yeah, toilet paper unrolling on the field is a lot of fun too...not for
the players though.
But scratch paper is better, cause the paper pieces are smaller and land pretty
much everywhere on the field.
Maybe italians also lott all the bathroom and services around the stadia...but
i'm not sure about that.

Cheers,

Paolo Catasti

Kees van der Poel

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Ah! Toiletpaper! I always wondered why it doesn't come on roles in
Argentina.

Kees

Alex A Goddard

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How big is Azteca (sp) stadium in Mexico? It's got to hold close to
200,000 people, doesn't it?
Alex

Claudio Ruggieri

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tsc...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas C Scherz) writes:

>It has to be Marcana in Rio (cap. 200,000 +).


I am not quite sure if Maracana is still the biggest stadium in
the world. In the WC final of 1950 between Brazil and Uruguay, there were
reportedly more than 200,000 - Maracana was originally designed to a
crowd of 220,000! However, these past 40 years have damaged a bit its
structure, so the current capacity has been limited to a less number of
people.
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Thomas C Scherz

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It has to be Marcana in Rio (cap. 200,000 +).

Thomas

Andrew Busa

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Claudio Ruggieri (ruggieri@cern30) wrote:

: tsc...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas C Scherz) writes:

: >It has to be Marcana in Rio (cap. 200,000 +).

It is the biggest football stadium in the world but its capacity is
"down" to 150,000 for safety reasons.

andy

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AndreaV634

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In article <CLAUDE.94J...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp>,
cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:

The biggest stadium in the world is Maracana Stadium in Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil. It has a capacity of more or less 200,000 seats.

Debapriya Sarkar

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I seem to remember reading in an old guiness ( the book!!, not
the extra stout ) that there was one stadium in the old Czechoslovakia
that had a capacity of 240K. Could anyone with a handy guiness please
verify whether there is such a stadium or I *was* "reading" an extra stout ;-)
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litterer

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You are correct about Czechoslovakia - the largest stadium is Strahov
Stadium near Prague, Czechoslovakia which was built in 1934, and still
exists, and has seating for $240,000. However, this is a giant place
designaed for mass gymnastics and marching rallies - at least six
soccer fields could fit inside it.

The largest purely for Soccer would be Maracana Stadium in Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil which seats 180,000 but helf almost 200,000 with
standing room for the 1950 Soccer World Cup finals.

Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City
(120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
(110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
in Australia is approx. 114,000

Debapriya Sarkar

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More on the same thread:
The Maracana also holds the record for the largest live audience for a
solo performer, when Frank Sinatra pulled in 199K.
In article <36pvm6$f...@kernighan.cs.umass.edu>, litt...@cs.umass.edu (litterer) writes:
>
> The largest purely for Soccer would be Maracana Stadium in Rio de
> Janeiro, Brazil which seats 180,000 but helf almost 200,000 with
> standing room for the 1950 Soccer World Cup finals.
>
More on the same thread:
The Maracana also holds the record for the largest live audience for a
solo performer, when Frank Sinatra pulled in 199K.

> Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City
> (120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
> (110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
> Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
> in Australia is approx. 114,000

Also, the Juba Bharati Krirangan (aka Salt Lake Stadium) in Calcutta, India
(120,000).

Kevin Gloin

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In article <Cx422...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ds...@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Debapriya Sarkar) writes:
>In article <36pcrp$q...@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, andre...@aol.com (AndreaV634) writes:
>
>> In article <CLAUDE.94J...@tokyo.trc.mew.co.jp>,
>> cla...@trc.mew.co.jp (CyberGaijin) writes:
>>
>> The biggest stadium in the world is Maracana Stadium in Rio de Janeiro,
>> Brazil. It has a capacity of more or less 200,000 seats.
> I seem to remember reading in an old guiness ( the book!!, not
> the extra stout ) that there was one stadium in the old Czechoslovakia
>that had a capacity of 240K. Could anyone with a handy guiness please
>verify whether there is such a stadium or I *was* "reading" an extra stout ;-)

My handy guide, which uses numbers supplied by FIFA, lists no
Czech stadiums in the top 10. It also says Maracana holds
125,000, as does Magalhaes Pinto, also in Brazil.
But the crown goes to Rungnado in Pyongyang, North Korea, at
150,000.

I'm sure these places have held more. Still, perhaps Churchill
Downs is worthy of note. Perhaps it is not a "stadium" in the
traditional sense, since the infield holds people in addition to
the stands. But for the 100th running of the Kentucky Derby in
1974, there was more than 160,000 in the crowd.

**********************************
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kgl...@acs.ucalgary.ca
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C.F. JORDAN

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Oct 5, 1994, 7:23:20 AM10/5/94
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In article <36pvm6$f...@kernighan.cs.umass.edu> litt...@cs.umass.edu (litterer) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City
>(120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
>(110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
>Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
>in Australia is approx. 114,000

Wembley Stadium would no longer get into this list. Since it became an all
seats stadium the capacity has been reduced to around 78,000.
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R F Minchin

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litterer (litt...@cs.umass.edu) wrote:
: Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City

: (120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
: (110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
: Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
: in Australia is approx. 114,000

Wembley is now only 80,000 but it is all-seater (Taylor report and all that).

Rob

S J Rees

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There are a couple of plans around by groups with plans to take over Wembley who
want to increase capacity to over 100,000.

Also in the UK Man U has been talking about another tier onto Old Trafford to up
the capacity to 60,000 and the FA has set aside money for a northern football
stadium with a capacity of at least 50,000, but knowing the FA it'll never
happen. There was a study done last year that showed the idea of a northern
national football stadium was a non-starter financially unless the money was
put towards uprating an existing club ground. I wonder who'll get it ?

Simon

Only one team in Bristol (and one supporter in Yorkshire ...)

Jim Reid

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Oct 5, 1994, 11:49:39 AM10/5/94
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In <mat3cfj.5...@leeds.ac.uk>, mat...@leeds.ac.uk (C.F. JORDAN) writes:
>In article <36pvm6$f...@kernighan.cs.umass.edu> litt...@cs.umass.edu (litterer) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City
>>(120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
>>(110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
>>Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
>>in Australia is approx. 114,000
>
>Wembley Stadium would no longer get into this list. Since it became an all
>seats stadium the capacity has been reduced to around 78,000.

I was at a game in Hampden Park, Glasgow where the attendance was given as 134,000.
It was for a Scotland vs England match. I'm not sure, but I think this is a record
for an international. Unless, of course, you lot know different :-)

Unfortunately, since re-development it is now all-seated, with a capacity of somewhere
in the region of 38,000. Of course, since it's shared by Celtic and Queen's Park, this
capacity is more than adequate :-) :-)


>----------------------------------------------------------
>"Logic is an organised way of going wrong with confidence"
>MAT...@LUCS-03.novell.leeds.ac.uk
>Colin F. Jordan


Jim Reid

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In article <36uhuj$12...@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>, jnr...@gnkvm2.vnet.ibm.com (Jim Reid) says:
>
>In <mat3cfj.5...@leeds.ac.uk>, mat...@leeds.ac.uk (C.F. JORDAN) writes:
>>In article <36pvm6$f...@kernighan.cs.umass.edu> litt...@cs.umass.edu (litterer) writes:
>>
>>[stuff deleted]
>>
>>>Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City
>>>(120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
>>>(110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
>>>Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
>>>in Australia is approx. 114,000
>>

Isn't the largest stadium in the world supposedly in Rio De Janeiro? You know, the
one that had 200,000 people show up to a game.

Troy Podbury

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In article <36u8rj$e...@mercury.dur.ac.uk> R F Minchin,
R.F.M...@durham.ac.uk writes:
>: Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City

>: (120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
>: (110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
>: Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
>: in Australia is approx. 114,000

They completed renovations on the MCG last year. It!s capacity is now
only 97,000.

PS what about the Olympic Stadium in Seoul, wasn!t it designed to have a
permanent capacity of 150-170,000?

Troy Podbury
tpod...@abare.gov.au

Scott Terek

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Kevin Gloin (kgl...@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:

: I'm sure these places have held more. Still, perhaps Churchill

: Downs is worthy of note. Perhaps it is not a "stadium" in the
: traditional sense, since the infield holds people in addition to
: the stands. But for the 100th running of the Kentucky Derby in
: 1974, there was more than 160,000 in the crowd.

If you're going to count things that way (total number in attendance
at an event), I think the Indianapolis Motor Speedway takes the prize.
I know they don't release exact attendance figures, but when you add
the people in the stands to those in the infield, I believe it runs
approximately 250,000. I know it's usually described as the "largest
single-day attendance in sports".

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mark

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In article <36vf11$o...@falcon.abare.gov.au>, Troy Podbury
<tpod...@abare.gov.au> wrote:

> They completed renovations on the MCG last year. It!s capacity is now
> only 97,000.

It's 101,800.(I think)

KHUPS

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In article <mat3cfj.5...@leeds.ac.uk>, mat...@leeds.ac.uk (C.F. JORDAN) writes:
|> In article <36pvm6$f...@kernighan.cs.umass.edu> litt...@cs.umass.edu (litterer) writes:
|>
|> [stuff deleted]
|>
|> >Other large soccer stadiums include Azteca Stadium in Mexico City
|> >(120,000), Barcelona Stadium (100,000), Sao Paolo, Brazil Stadium
|> >(110,000), The Rose Bowl (102,000), and Michigan Stadium (101,701).
|> >Wembly Stadium in London is 100,000, and the Melbourne Cricket Grounds
|> >in Australia is approx. 114,000
|>

and the stadio de la luce in lisbon about 120.00

khups

Mark Joseph Hale

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Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.soccer: 5-Oct-94 Re: WHERE IS THE
BIGGEST ST.. by Kevin Gl...@acs.ucalgary
> My handy guide, which uses numbers supplied by FIFA, lists no
> Czech stadiums in the top 10. It also says Maracana holds
> 125,000, as does Magalhaes Pinto, also in Brazil.
> But the crown goes to Rungnado in Pyongyang, North Korea, at
> 150,000.
>

I know that Maracana holds in excess of 200,000. It has been documented
that this many people saw the 1958 final (I think it was 1958.)

> I'm sure these places have held more. Still, perhaps Churchill
> Downs is worthy of note. Perhaps it is not a "stadium" in the
> traditional sense, since the infield holds people in addition to
> the stands. But for the 100th running of the Kentucky Derby in
> 1974, there was more than 160,000 in the crowd.
>

Hell, if you are oing to say this, and include the non-traditional
stadiums, why not include Indianapolis for the Indy 500. I have heard
that between the stands and the infield they get over 500,000 very year.

Mark

Mikael Forsell

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The list of large stadias are incorrect. In order to apply to the
FIFA-rules of all-seater-stadia most stadiums have cut down their
attendancefigures. For example. Wembley Stadium in London only has room
for aprox. 72.000. And in WC94 only about 93.000 people got in to the Rose
Bowl. I could go on forever, but you get the drift. Don't trust your
soccer encyclopedias too much.

Mike of Stockholm, Sweden

R F Minchin

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Kevin Gloin (kgl...@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:

<this part of text viciously hacked and stretchered off>

: I'm sure these places have held more. Still, perhaps Churchill


: Downs is worthy of note. Perhaps it is not a "stadium" in the
: traditional sense, since the infield holds people in addition to
: the stands. But for the 100th running of the Kentucky Derby in
: 1974, there was more than 160,000 in the crowd.

I have definately heard that for the first FA cup final at Wembley
(Bolton? vs ???) that there were over 200,000 people (most of whom didn't
pay due to inadaquate turnstiles), partly due to the lack of safety regs
in those days. There were no fences in those days so the crowd spilled
right down onto the sidelines (and occasionally onto the pitch). All
this is from books I have read (I wasn't actually there, just a bit
before my time).

Rob

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Garry Archer

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In article <37e0k4$o...@mercury.dur.ac.uk> R F Minchin <R.F.M...@durham.ac.uk> writes:
>
>I have definately heard that for the first FA cup final at Wembley
>(Bolton? vs ???) that there were over 200,000 people (most of whom didn't
>pay due to inadaquate turnstiles), partly due to the lack of safety regs
>in those days. There were no fences in those days so the crowd spilled
>right down onto the sidelines (and occasionally onto the pitch). All
>this is from books I have read (I wasn't actually there, just a bit
>before my time).


Rob is correct. Hey look at this, we discussed this one in r.s.s before too!:

--- begin include old article

From: arc...@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: Wembley
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:23:28 GMT

In article <MNEWS.716...@gate.demon.co.uk> I.T....@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (I.T.Marsh) writes:
>
>>From: cl...@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
>>Organization: University of Keele, England
>>Message-ID: <40...@keele.keele.ac.uk>
>
>>Any one know the capacity of Wembley now the horrible plastic 'seats'
>>have been put in?
>>
>>Andy
>
>Wembley capacity now = 80,000
>
>Tom.


A far cry from 1923 when Wembley opened for its first big game on
28 April (its official opening had already taken place):

The FA Cup Final between Bolton Wanderers and West Ham. Also known
as the "White Horse Final" because a mounted policeman, George Scorey,
and his white stallion, Billy, helped to keep the crowd overflow back off
of the pitch.

The official attendance was 126,047. It has been said that the _actual_
attendance was probably in excess of 200,000. There were estimates of
another 100,000 fans outside unable to get in. Football fans and supporters
were trying to sit _anywhere_, even on the actual playing area itself --
solidly from goal to goal! Amazingly the crowd was calm, not a hint of
trouble anywhere, but officials had to meet to plan a way to disperse the
crowd so that the game could get underway. It was decided to call the
match off, but before the announcement was made, Police Constable Scorey
and Billy appeared and single-handedly nudged and coaxed until everyone
was pushed back to the edge of the playing area. The players were called
out of the locker rooms and the game commenced. Spectators were so tightly
packed around the field that one goal was disputed because it was thought
that a fan sitting on the goal line had kept the ball in play with his foot.
Bolton went on to win 2-0. The FA publicly thanked Mr. Scorey and Billy.

According to the British Empire Exhibition authorites, Wembley (real name
The Empire Stadium, Wembley, scheduled to open in 1924 as part of the British
Empire Exhibition) could hold 127,000. In 1921, The Prince of Wales urged
that the showpiece for the newest (and last) British Empire Exhibition should
be "a great national sports ground" that would be the mecca for world
football and an escape that would "appeal to all Britshers" on grand
sporting occasions. Ground was broken by the Duke of York, later George VI,
in January 1922, and within one year the stadium was completed. An
astounding rate of construction for a facility of this size.

The official capacity was 100,000 until the late 1970s when it was
reduced to 98,000 for safety reasons. Its been reduced a few times
since then.


Sources --- Encyclopedia of British Football and Encyclopedia of World Soccer


--- end include old article


Hope this was informative.

Hey, James (Ross)! Another one for the FA Cup FAQ?!! :-)


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JMatt95

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In article <37e0k4$o...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, R F Minchin
<R.F.M...@durham.ac.uk> writes:

The biggest Stadium in the World is in Rio De Jinero, South America at
Marciana Stadium where they cramed in 220,000 people for a soccer game and
its normal capacity is 200,000

litterer

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These are the world's largest football stadiums:


Rungnado Stadium, Pyongyang, North Korea 150,000*
Maracana Stadium, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil 125,000++
Mineirao Stadium, Belo Horizonte, Brazil 125,000
Salt Lake (Corporation), Calcutta, India 120,000*
Luz Stadium, Lisbon, Portugal 120,000
Senayan Main Stadium, Jakarta, Indonesia 120,000*
Morumbi Stadium, Sao Paolo, Brazil 120,000
Castelao Stadium, Fortaleza, Brazil 119,000
Mundao Stadium, Recife, Brazil 115,000
Nou Camp, Barcelona, Spain 115,000
Azteca Stadium, Mexico City, Mexico 110,000
Santiago Bernabeau, Madrid, Spain 110,000
Rose Bowl, Pasadena (Los Angeles), United States 103,600
Centralny Stadion Lenina, Moscow, Russia 103,000
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, United States 102,450
Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne 101,800*
Nasser Stadium, Cairo, Egypt 100,000*
Azadi Stadium, Tehran, Iran 100,000*
Republikansky Stadion, Kiev, Ukraine 100,000
Crvena Zvezda, Belgrade, Yugoslavia 100,000


++ -- Some sources list capacity as 165,000 (before converting to
all-seater)
* -- Does not have resident Football Club - These are either used for
exhibitions, or are designed primarily for Australian Rules football or
American Gridiron Football.

Source: Fifa (for those stadia with resident football clubs)


Strahov Stadium near Prague, Czechoslovakia seats 240,000 but is in a
much larger field configuration and used mainly for mass gymnastics
rallies.

The complete .http list of 1,035 soccer stadiums is available at:

http://shiva.di.uminho.pt/~miguel/FUTEBOL/estadios.html


That list also includes links to 30 stadium photos.

Rodrigo B Capaz

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In article <3cikgl$q...@kernighan.cs.umass.edu>, litt...@cs.umass.edu (litterer) writes:
|>
|>
|> These are the world's largest football stadiums:
|>
|>
|> Rungnado Stadium, Pyongyang, North Korea 150,000*
|> Maracana Stadium, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil 125,000++

[list deleted]

|>
|> ++ -- Some sources list capacity as 165,000 (before converting to
|> all-seater)

You should check your facts again. I have been in Maracana in at least a dozen
of games with attendance bigger than 150,000. And I'm only 26-years-old :-).
No conversion to all-seater was made. They only limited the number of tickets
they sell because of safety reasons, the stadium is getting old and needs
some reforms.

Regards --- Rodrigo Capaz

Andy Farthing

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Yes you are correct but its a shame about your spelling.

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