RSS Coach Sack Compertition

alka...@hotmail.com

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Nov 3, 2019, 9:42:54 AM11/3/19

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You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December 31st 2019, based on fired coaches.
Only three rules:
1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your entry (duh)
2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a minimum of 4 coaches per entry)
3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if you like)
Deadline: Friday Nov 8th

alka...@hotmail.com

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Nov 3, 2019, 9:46:19 AM11/3/19

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My entry:
Nico Kovac 3
Marco Silva 3
Ernesto Valverde 1
Zinedine Zidane 1
Unai Emery 1
Ralph Hasenhuttl 1

alka...@hotmail.com

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Nov 3, 2019, 9:54:13 AM11/3/19

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On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 9:42:54 AM UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:

One clarification: Resignations count too. Then coach just has to leave his post before the year's end.

anders t

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Nov 3, 2019, 10:24:55 AM11/3/19

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I am officially somewhat taken aback by the fact that OGS isn't on your
list. Is it some kind of subtle woff?

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alka...@hotmail.com

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Nov 3, 2019, 10:34:48 AM11/3/19

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On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 10:24:55 AM UTC-5, anders t wrote:
> Quoting alka...@hotmail.com in rec.sport.soccer:
> >On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 9:42:54 AM UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December 31st 2019, based on fired coaches.
> >> Only three rules:
> >> 1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your entry (duh)
> >> 2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a minimum of 4 coaches per entry)
> >> 3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if you like)
> >> Deadline: Friday Nov 8th
> >
> >My entry:
> >Nico Kovac 3
> >Marco Silva 3
> >Ernesto Valverde 1
> >Zinedine Zidane 1
> >Unai Emery 1
> >Ralph Hasenhuttl 1
>
> I am officially somewhat taken aback by the fact that OGS isn't on your
> list. Is it some kind of subtle woff?

No. I actually think Woodward is foolish enough to stick with Ole for at least the season, barring something catastrophic like 5 defeats in a row, which I don't think will happen because United still has enough talent to get an odd result here and there.

That said, how about making an entry?

MH

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Nov 3, 2019, 4:16:33 PM11/3/19

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On 2019-11-03 7:46, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 9:42:54 AM UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December 31st 2019, based on fired coaches.
>> Only three rules:
>> 1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your entry (duh)
>> 2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a minimum of 4 coaches per entry)
>> 3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if you like)
>> Deadline: Friday Nov 8th
>
> My entry:
> Nico Kovac 3

Well, that was quick. I guess I can't pick him.

> Marco Silva 3
> Ernesto Valverde 1
> Zinedine Zidane 1
> Unai Emery 1
> Ralph Hasenhuttl 1
>

Will have to think about this. You allow all European clubs in all
divisions, or are you restricting this to top divisions, or even top
five leagues ?

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 3, 2019, 8:29:56 PM11/3/19

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On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 9:42:54 AM UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:

Kovac is gone, and now also Corini of Brescia. I guess one could go with some bottom feeders, but where's the fun in that?

Solskjaer 2
Emery 2
Marco Silva (Everton) 1
Ranieri (Sampdoria) 1
Rubi (Betis) 1
Rudi Garcia (Lyon) 1
Leonardo Jardim (Monaco) 1
Quique Sanchez Flores (Watford) 1

Werner Pichler

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Nov 4, 2019, 3:57:02 AM11/4/19

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On Sunday, 3 November 2019 15:42:54 UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December 31st 2019, based on fired coaches.
> Only three rules:
> 1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your entry
> (duh)

Any league?

> 2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a minimum of
> 4 coaches per entry)
> 3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if you like)
> Deadline: Friday Nov 8th

Ilzer (Austria) 2
Quique Flores 2
Pochettino 2
Solskjær 2
Hasenhüttl 1
Favre 1

Ciao,
Werner

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 4, 2019, 7:08:09 AM11/4/19

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On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 3:57:02 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Sunday, 3 November 2019 15:42:54 UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December 31st 2019, based on fired coaches.
> > Only three rules:
> > 1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your entry
> > (duh)
>
> Any league?

I think we should stick to top-5 leagues. Otherwise it would be too easy to just pick whatever lower-league club Maurizio Zamparini is president of.

> > 2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a minimum of
> > 4 coaches per entry)
> > 3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if you like)
> > Deadline: Friday Nov 8th
>
>
> Ilzer (Austria) 2
> Quique Flores 2
> Pochettino 2
> Solskjær 2
> Hasenhüttl 1
> Favre 1

Fran Escriba of Celta Vigo was victim number 3 of the weekend.

Werner Pichler

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Nov 4, 2019, 7:17:14 AM11/4/19

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On Monday, 4 November 2019 13:08:09 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 3:57:02 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Sunday, 3 November 2019 15:42:54 UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active
> > > European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December 31st
> > > 2019, based on fired coaches.
> > > Only three rules:
> > > 1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your
> > > entry (duh)
> >
> > Any league?
>
> I think we should stick to top-5 leagues. Otherwise it would be too easy to
> just pick whatever lower-league club Maurizio Zamparini is president of.
>
>

> > > 2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a Minimum

> > > of 4 coaches per entry)
> > > 3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if you
> > > like)
> > > Deadline: Friday Nov 8th
> >
> >
> > Ilzer (Austria) 2

Alright, then make this Beierlorzer 2

> > Quique Flores 2
> > Pochettino 2
> > Solskjær 2
> > Hasenhüttl 1
> > Favre 1
>
> Fran Escriba of Celta Vigo was victim number 3 of the weekend.

Ciao,
Werner

sven.mi...@gmail.com

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Nov 4, 2019, 11:26:06 AM11/4/19

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Valverde 3 (Gallardo and the CWC make this a really close one, though)
Unai Emery 3
Hasenhuettl 3 Amazing he was not sacked after the 0-9, but he has to deliver very soon.
Marco Silva 1 Not sure how he is still in the job.

OGS will stay at least into the second half. Doesn't make sense to change coaches until you have a replacement secured. and there are not many replacements around on the level that ManU wants.

MH

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Nov 5, 2019, 1:05:49 AM11/5/19

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I had missed the fact that Marcelino (Valencia) was let go not long ago.
He did well for them for two years, and was also good with Villareal, so
I would not be surprised if someone (Celta ?) snaps him up.

sven.mi...@gmail.com

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Nov 5, 2019, 5:42:58 AM11/5/19

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That was kinda a big thing --- their successful coach fired after only 4 games? Bonkers, unless there was something else going on behind the scenes.

MH

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Nov 5, 2019, 10:48:38 AM11/5/19

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Yeah, they had not even started playing in the CL yet, and had played
three league games (1 W, 1 L, 1 D) when he left. Replaced by Albert
Celades, who has never been a manager/head coach before (assistant with
Spain and Real Madrid)

Bruce Scott

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Nov 5, 2019, 2:32:47 PM11/5/19

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On 2019-11-03, alka...@hotmail.com <alka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nico Kovac 3

Wasn't he already gone when you posted? :-)

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ciao, Bruce

MH

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Nov 5, 2019, 6:43:37 PM11/5/19

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On 2019-11-03 7:42, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:

No point in playing this without trying to be clever or controversial.

My picks:

1. Carlo Ancelotti. He may prefer the cup, but do the powers that be
at Napoli. 1 point
2. Bernard Blaquart (Nimes). A coach who got them into Ligue 1 and a
respectable placing in the table in the first season should be safe,
right? Well.... 20th place is 20th place. 1 point
3. Ole-Gunnar Solskjaer 2 points
4. Rubi (real Betis). 1 point
5. Vincent Hognon (Metz) 1 point
6. Achim Beierlorzer (Köln) 2 points
7. Peter Bosz (Bayer Leverkusen 1 Point
8. Marco Silva (Everton) 1 point

alka...@hotmail.com

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Nov 6, 2019, 12:15:16 PM11/6/19

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On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 2:32:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce Scott wrote:
> On 2019-11-03, alka...@hotmail.com <alka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Nico Kovac 3
>
> Wasn't he already gone when you posted? :-)

He may well have been, but the announcement didn't come out until a few hours after my post.

But for the sake of fairness, I'll re-submit without Kovac:

Marco Silva 3
Ernesto Valverde 2
Unai Emery 2
Ralph Hasenhuttl 2
Zinedine Zidane 1

MH

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Nov 10, 2019, 8:53:32 PM11/10/19

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Well 2 points there for me

Werner Pichler

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Nov 18, 2019, 12:35:52 PM11/18/19

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Do Michael and me get double points if Beierlorzer gets fired *again*?

Ciao,
Werner

MH

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Nov 18, 2019, 1:36:32 PM11/18/19

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That seems perfectly reasonable to me !

> Ciao,
> Werner
>

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 18, 2019, 2:53:58 PM11/18/19

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On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 12:35:52 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Do Michael and me get double points if Beierlorzer gets fired *again*?

This is rigged worse than a milivella game!

alka...@hotmail.com

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Nov 25, 2019, 9:59:54 AM11/25/19

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Emery, Silva, and Pellegrini all hot favorites now. Followed by an unlikely dark horse in Favre.

Werner Pichler

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Nov 27, 2019, 8:17:54 AM11/27/19

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Čović fired, Klinsmann (!) takes over in Berlin.

Ciao,
Werner

sven.mi...@gmail.com

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Nov 29, 2019, 6:49:55 AM11/29/19

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Emery fired.

Hasenhuettl with the week of truth ---- first Watford (last), then Norwich (third last), later in Newcastle.

Valverde: Gallardo has nothing left to play for.... Come on Barca! ;)

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 29, 2019, 6:56:11 AM11/29/19

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Yay! two points for me, but also two to Alka, and 3 to Sven.

Is anybody keeping track of the scores?

sven.mi...@gmail.com

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Nov 29, 2019, 7:08:08 AM11/29/19

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Aren't we all getting full points? :)

Everton with the week from hell: Leicester and Liverpool away, then Chelsea at home. It makes sense for management to wait until this week is over before getting a new manager. I guess a derby win would ensure Silva's survival until January, though.

Werner Pichler

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Nov 29, 2019, 10:43:08 AM11/29/19

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On Friday, 29 November 2019 12:49:55 UTC+1, sven.m...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:17:54 UTC, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Monday, 25 November 2019 15:59:54 UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 2:53:58 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 12:35:52 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Do Michael and me get double points if Beierlorzer gets fired *again*?
> > > >
> > > > This is rigged worse than a milivella game!
> > >
> > > Emery, Silva, and Pellegrini all hot favorites now. Followed by an unlikely
> > > dark horse in Favre.
> >
> >
> > Čović fired, Klinsmann (!) takes over in Berlin.
>
>
>
> Emery fired.

So for both Kovač and Emery a defeat against Hütter’s Frankfurt proved fatal.

>
> Hasenhuettl with the week of truth ---- first Watford (last), then Norwich (third last), later in
> Newcastle.

Can’t see him surviving that to be honest. But the squad also just looks too weak for Premier League
football.

Ciao,
Werner

Jesper Lauridsen

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Nov 29, 2019, 2:03:59 PM11/29/19

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Breaking News: Favre has been given a vote of confidence.

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 1, 2019, 9:13:12 AM12/1/19

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On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 8:29:56 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Quique Sanchez Flores (Watford) 1

Gone. One point for me

Werner Pichler

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Dec 1, 2019, 9:24:24 AM12/1/19

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And two for me.

The Harpoon of Doom is working well.

- Beierlorzer 2
- Quique Flores 2
- Pochettino 2

> > Solskjær 2
> > Hasenhüttl 1
> > Favre 1

From the rest, Solskjær and Hasenhüttl look safe for now. Favre is a bit of
a mystery.

Ciao,
Werner

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 1, 2019, 11:21:22 AM12/1/19

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On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 9:24:24 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
> And two for me.
>
> The Harpoon of Doom is working well.

If I'm not mistaken, the standings are:

Werner 6 (Beierlorzer 2, Quique Flores 2, Pochettino 2)
Sven 3 (Emery 3)
FM 3 (Emery 2, Quique Flores 1)
MH 2 (Beierlorzer 2)
Alka 2 (Emery 2)

MH

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Dec 1, 2019, 8:48:25 PM12/1/19

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On 2019-11-18 11:36, MH wrote:
> On 2019-11-18 10:35, Werner Pichler wrote:
>> On Monday, 11 November 2019 02:53:32 UTC+1, MH wrote:
>>> On 2019-11-05 16:43, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2019-11-03 7:42, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> You get 10 probability points which you can allocate to any active
>>>>> European head coaches. Goal is to have the most points by December
>>>>> 31st 2019, based on fired coaches.
>>>>> Only three rules:
>>>>> 1) The coach has to be active at a European club when you submit your
>>>>> entry (duh)
>>>>> 2) You can allocate a maximum of 3 points to a coach (to ensure a
>>>>> minimum of 4 coaches per entry)
>>>>> 3) No limit on number of coaches (i.e. you can nominate up top 10 if
>>>>> you like)
>>>>> Deadline: Friday Nov 8th
>>>>>
>>>> No point in playing this without trying to be clever or controversial.
>>>>
>>>> My picks:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Carlo Ancelotti. He may prefer the cup, but do the powers that be
>>>> at Napoli. 1 point

A loss at home to Bologna today. Players protesting and all fined. No
wins in a long time. Probably only the close to 100 % certainty of
reaching the next round in the CL is keeping Ancelotti employed. And
yet I read that Arsenal are interested .....

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 1, 2019, 8:55:20 PM12/1/19

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On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 8:29:56 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>

> Kovac is gone, and now also Corini of Brescia.

Corini was replaced by Grosso (yes, he of WC2006 fame), things didn't improve much at Brescia, and apparently Grosso is now on his way out, to be replaced by Corini ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Werner Pichler

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Dec 1, 2019, 9:15:23 PM12/1/19

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Double points if he gets sacked a second time!

But hey, I'll always be grateful to Cellino for taking supreme
disappointment Darko Milanič off our hands and even paying Sturm money for
his services because he's such a good-looking watermelon.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/23/leeds-united-manager-watermellon-massimo-cellino

(Milanič lasted 32 days in Leeds)

Ciao,
Werner

alka...@hotmail.com

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Dec 2, 2019, 7:44:45 AM12/2/19

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Thanks, I should have done this as organizer but the weekend got away from me.

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 2, 2019, 4:50:16 PM12/2/19

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On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 9:15:23 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
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> Double points if he gets sacked a second time!

But I didn't pick him!

In the meantime Sampdoria gave up a 3-1 lead and lost 4-3 to Champions League contender Cagliari. Maybe there's still hope for Ranieri?

alka...@hotmail.com

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Dec 5, 2019, 2:37:31 PM12/5/19

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On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 11:21:22 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 9:24:24 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >
> > And two for me.
> >
> > The Harpoon of Doom is working well.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, the standings are:

In news that will make no one fall off their chair, Marco Silva just got sacked. Updated scores below.

> Werner 6 (Beierlorzer 2, Quique Flores 2, Pochettino 2)

> Alka 5 (Silva 3, Emery 2)
> Sven 4 (Emery 3, Silva 1)
> FM 4 (Emery 2, Quique Flores 1, Silva 1)
> MH 2 (Beierlorzer 2)

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 10, 2019, 7:39:59 AM12/10/19

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On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 8:48:25 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

> >>>> 1. Carlo Ancelotti. He may prefer the cup, but do the powers that be
> >>>> at Napoli. 1 point
>
> A loss at home to Bologna today. Players protesting and all fined. No
> wins in a long time. Probably only the close to 100 % certainty of
> reaching the next round in the CL is keeping Ancelotti employed. And
> yet I read that Arsenal are interested .....

Looks imminent, regardless of whether Napoli advances in the CL. Gattuso the likely replacement.

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 10, 2019, 6:16:48 PM12/10/19

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On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:39:59 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Looks imminent, regardless of whether Napoli advances in the CL. Gattuso the likely replacement.

Aaand... Ancelotti is gone. First ever manager to be sacked after a 4-0 win?
Good call by MH.

alka...@hotmail.com

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Dec 11, 2019, 10:31:14 AM12/11/19

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On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:37:31 PM UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 11:21:22 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 9:24:24 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > >
> > > And two for me.
> > >
> > > The Harpoon of Doom is working well.
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, the standings are:
>
> In news that will make no one fall off their chair, Marco Silva just got sacked. Updated scores below.

Updated below after Ancelotti sacking.

> > Werner 6 (Beierlorzer 2, Quique Flores 2, Pochettino 2)
> > Alka 5 (Silva 3, Emery 2)
> > Sven 4 (Emery 3, Silva 1)
> > FM 4 (Emery 2, Quique Flores 1, Silva 1)

> > MH 4 (Beierlorzer 2, Silva 1, Ancelotti 1)

20 days remaining in the year for the chasing pack to overtake Werner.

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 11, 2019, 10:38:01 AM12/11/19

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:31:14 AM UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Updated below after Ancelotti sacking.
>
> > > Werner 6 (Beierlorzer 2, Quique Flores 2, Pochettino 2)
> > > Alka 5 (Silva 3, Emery 2)
> > > Sven 4 (Emery 3, Silva 1)
> > > FM 4 (Emery 2, Quique Flores 1, Silva 1)
> > > MH 4 (Beierlorzer 2, Silva 1, Ancelotti 1)
>
> 20 days remaining in the year for the chasing pack to overtake Werner.

Lyon progressing to the Round of 16 didn't do me any favors...

Werner Pichler

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Dec 17, 2019, 1:14:44 PM12/17/19

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Nobody picked Kohfeldt, right?

Ciao,
Werner

Werner Pichler

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Dec 26, 2019, 1:31:24 PM12/26/19

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On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 12:49:55 PM UTC+1, sven.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hasenhuettl with the week of truth ---- first Watford (last), then Norwich
> (third last), later in Newcastle.

Record since then: two losses, four wins. Today's away win at Chelsea the last
guarantee for his survival, at least for the purposes of this game.

Ciao,
Werner

Werner Pichler

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Dec 28, 2019, 5:58:51 PM12/28/19

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Pellegrini made it just in time for the deadline.

Ciao,
Werner

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 29, 2019, 5:02:10 AM12/29/19

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And so did Jardim!

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Monaco-leonardo-jardim-debarque-marcelino-en-pole/1093907#xtor=RSS-1

Injury-time sackings FTW!

Futbolmetrix

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Dec 29, 2019, 5:04:41 AM12/29/19

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 5:31:14 PM UTC+2, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Updated below after Ancelotti sacking.
>
> > > Werner 6 (Beierlorzer 2, Quique Flores 2, Pochettino 2)
> > > Alka 5 (Silva 3, Emery 2)
> > > Sven 4 (Emery 3, Silva 1)
> > > FM 4 (Emery 2, Quique Flores 1, Silva 1)
> > > MH 4 (Beierlorzer 2, Silva 1, Ancelotti 1)
>
> 20 days remaining in the year for the chasing pack to overtake Werner.

Jardim sacking not enough to catch up with Werner, but I guess I win the title for highest number of correct guesses?

Werner Pichler

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Jan 31, 2020, 4:27:49 PM1/31/20

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Will there be an official result, and is this game eligible for the Hall of
Fame?

Ciao,
Werner

Werner Pichler

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Feb 5, 2020, 11:22:51 AM2/5/20

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...who's just been sacked!

Ciao,
Werner