Poll Results - Americans barely aware anything is going on
James62
Look at the bright side.
At least we have this poll. 10 years ago it would have been like 10% who
knew of the world cup, and this poll would not have even been concieved.
Any foreigners: you see a lot of crap on how it will never catch on here,
and no one cares. BULL$H!T. The only people who say that are sports writers
here who don't know the game, so they fear they'll look stupid if they don't
know it, and they bash it. Americans do care a lot more than in 1990.
Ken Stuart wrote in message <359ca56d...@news.supernews.com>...
>From
>http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.ht
m :
>
>A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
>percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52
percent
>knew it was a soccer competition.
>
>Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll
said.
>Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half
of
>these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
>
>The poll also found men had more soccer knowledge than women but only 25
percent
>of Americans knew the World Cup was being played in France.
>
Paul Mettewie
Ken Stuart wrote:
> From
> http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
>
> A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
> percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52 percent
> knew it was a soccer competition.
(Insert punch line here.)
Oh, I can't resist.......
I am surprised 74 per cent of Americans recognized
the presence of a world. (No, I didn't write that, I
really didn't, it was my evil twin.)
> Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
> Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
> these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
Blessed be the ignorant for they will inherit the
defaulted japanese banking institutions......
> The poll also found men had more soccer knowledge than women but only 25 percent
> of Americans knew the World Cup was being played in France.
Where's that? Isn't that were the Civil War
started? Or the Revolutionary War or something?
See, there was this Count, and he liked breakfast
cereal and then he moved to Hollywood after
he went by the Statue of Liberty and he invented
Taco Bell, and then all was good and cool and
everyone played Ice Hockey except like in Hollywood
where they became famous Lakers and hosted TV
shows.
- Riff "Ah, I'm pissed at the US Soccer team...." Ster
Kevin Cabral
Ken Stuart (kst...@jps.net) wrote:
: From
: http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
: A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
: percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52 percent
: knew it was a soccer competition.
: Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
: Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
: these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
Interesting, of course the results of this poll are diluted by the absence
of compelling soccer played during those dates; chances are that they
either saw Holland-Belgium on ABC (on of the most boring games of the Cup)
or Croatia-Jamaica (meaningless blowout of ball-watching Jamaica). A
certain amount saw USA-Germany, but that is a different demographic.
USA-Iran might count, but how many were really polled after seeing that
game? After all, it was played on the 21st. A better survey would be taken
at the end of the World Cup and with better disclosure and attention paid
to a larger sample pool; and that pool would need to be broken down by age
group, and ethnic-background.
And a reminder, if 9.5 percent of polled enjoyed the games (what were the
choices of response?) that is about 25 million adult viewers [though the
sample-size was just 1000].
BTW, anyone know Univision's ratings for the Copa? ABC's first weekend of
non-US afternoon games averaged a 3.5 rating; USA-Germany was a 4.5 on
Monday afternoon. I'd imagine that USA-Iran has to be 10+ - though I
have'nt seen any ratings. Likewise with Univision, I'd guess that on prime
games and weekend afternoon's that they're getting at least the 10 range:
9 million households+. That puts the viewership of the WC during prime
games at levels not far from the NBA finals; the final will certainly go
higher - right? What's Univision drawing for these. I hear they are
breaking all records, but nothing further.
- Kevin
Alan Douglas
kst...@jps.net (Ken Stuart) wrote:
>From
>http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
>
>Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
>Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
>these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
Looking on the positive side, that means that roughly 24 million
people in the US are watching and enjoying at least some of the World
Cup. I figure that probably puts them among the top 25 or 30 soccer
watching nations in the world (see Appendix A)
Cheers,
Alan Douglas
Soccer Guy/
Appendix A
I estimate that the following 21 nations should have more than 24
million viewers who have watched and enjoyed WC98:
Argentina, Brazil, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia,
Iran, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Nigeria, Poland, Russia, South Africa,
South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, UK
While the following are probably in the same ballpark:
Bangladesh, Colombia, Pakistan, Philippines, Vietnam
(Correction, suggestions, additions, deletions, and ignorant
half-assed opinions welcome)
Steve Jones
kst...@jps.net (Ken Stuart) writes:
Sorry can't resist...
[snip]
>
> The poll also found men had more soccer knowledge than women but only 25 percent
> of Americans knew the World Cup was being played in France.
>
And only 14% could place France on a map, while only 6% could name the
language or the currency of France :-)
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kca...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Cabral) wrote:
>And a reminder, if 9.5 percent of polled enjoyed the games (what were the
>choices of response?) that is about 25 million adult viewers [though the
>sample-size was just 1000].
That should be 20 million at most--potentially I might add--not 25
million. There are about 200 million *potential* adult viewers in the
US, not about 260 million as you claim.
Marcio
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Mark Powell
In article <3599ce00...@news.lightspeed.bc.ca>,
Alan Douglas <al...@lightspeed.bc.ca> wrote:
>kst...@jps.net (Ken Stuart) wrote:
>
>>From
>>http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
>>
>>Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
>>Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
>>these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
>
>Looking on the positive side, that means that roughly 24 million
>people in the US are watching and enjoying at least some of the World
>Cup. I figure that probably puts them among the top 25 or 30 soccer
>watching nations in the world (see Appendix A)
I reckon 32 nations, probably had quite a large percentage of their
countries, watching at least some games?
>Appendix A
>
>I estimate that the following 21 nations should have more than 24
>million viewers who have watched and enjoyed WC98:
>
>Argentina, Brazil, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia,
>Iran, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Nigeria, Poland, Russia, South Africa,
>South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, UK
Not wanting to be pedantic, but I will. You may have noticed that
both Scotland and England, played in the finals. We are four seperate
nations as far as football is concerned.
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Alan Douglas
ma...@salfrd.ac.uk (Mark Powell) wrote:
>In article <3599ce00...@news.lightspeed.bc.ca>,
>Alan Douglas <al...@lightspeed.bc.ca> wrote:
>>Looking on the positive side, that means that roughly 24 million
>>people in the US are watching and enjoying at least some of the World
>>Cup. I figure that probably puts them among the top 25 or 30 soccer
>>watching nations in the world (see Appendix A)
Oops. As has already been pointed out, this should be closer to 20
million as we're talking about a % of TV viewers, not total
population. Makes no difference to Appendix A though, as the same
adjustment would need to be applied to all countries.
>I reckon 32 nations, probably had quite a large percentage of their
>countries, watching at least some games?
High percentages, yes. But I'm talking about total population.
>>Appendix A
>>
>>I estimate that the following 21 nations should have more than 24
>>million viewers who have watched and enjoyed WC98:
>>
>>Argentina, Brazil, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia,
>>Iran, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Nigeria, Poland, Russia, South Africa,
>>South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, UK
>
>Not wanting to be pedantic, but I will. You may have noticed that
>both Scotland and England, played in the finals. We are four seperate
>nations as far as football is concerned.
I know. I originally had it down as England, but then decided to go
with UK as I was primarily talking about TV viewership. And it makes
absolutely no difference to the point I was making, as Scotland,
Wales, and Northern Ireland all have less than 20 million people.
Kamran Iranpour
Not very surprising. Ask americans where is the capital of
their own country and they don't know.
KI
Ken Stuart wrote:
>
> From
> http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
>
> A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
> percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52 percent
> knew it was a soccer competition.
>
> Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
> Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
> these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
>
Rod Ramsey
>My God, you mean over half of all the Americans associated the
>words "World Cup" with soccer??? And you consider that BAD???
>These are incredible results.
>
>> Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the
>> poll said. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television
>
>fan living in the US to see such incredible progress in the last
>10-15 years is simply stunning...
Well as a US World Cup fan, I too have to say those numbers are much higher
than I would have thought. I think over the next 10 years or so they will grow
even higher. I'm 30 and I grew up playing soccer, as did many of my
generation. The phrase "soccer mom" isn't just political, it has some basis in
reality. Of course, as this WC has proven yet again, we've got a very long way
to go before we can actually compete on an international level. (On a related
note, will South Korea and Japan share group hosting next time? Put us in their
group. Heh Heh) My boss and I took a long "lunch" yesterday to go watch the
England/Argentina game, so there are some of us here who care.. (of course,
he's from Venezuela.)
Rod
Barry Hamill
Alan Douglas wrote:
> Looking on the positive side, that means that roughly 24 million
> people in the US are watching and enjoying at least some of the World
> Cup. I figure that probably puts them among the top 25 or 30 soccer
> watching nations in the world (see Appendix A)
Even more positive- ask anyone in marketing if they'd be pleased to put
a new product on the market and have
- 75% market awareness;
- 19% of the market try the product; and
- more than half of those say they enjoyed the product "quite a lot" or
more?
I think most marketing types I know would spontaneously orgasm over
those numbers.
--
barry hamill
bha...@nospam.mbcm.org
Howard H. Hamilton
In article <2s3ecmm...@bach.eurocontrol.fr>,
Steve Jones <steve...@eurocontrol.fr> wrote:
[World Cup poll in USA]
>And only 14% could place France on a map, while only 6% could name the
>language or the currency of France :-)
It was *that* many? :-)
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Chuck Pearson
Barry Hamill (bha...@nospam.mbcm.org) wrote:
: Even more positive- ask anyone in marketing if they'd be pleased to put
: a new product on the market and have
: - 75% market awareness;
: - 19% of the market try the product; and
: - more than half of those say they enjoyed the product "quite a lot" or
: more?
: I think most marketing types I know would spontaneously orgasm over
: those numbers.
why the heck do you think MLS and FIFA get such big-time american sponsors?
they're no dummies. the poll results you see here are just the AP trying
to trash soccer yet again.
i'd love to see them pull the same poll on baseball. they might be
shocked at how little the american public follows it. 8-)
chuck
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smith
Ken Stuart wrote:
>
> From
> http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
>
> A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
> percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52 percent
> knew it was a soccer competition.
>
> these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
Big F'ing deal.
10 percent of the population don't even know who the president is.
60-70
percent couldn't tell you who won the NBA championship. 80 percent
couldn't tell you more than 5 players in the NBA. Ditto for other
baseball
and NFL.
Zach
smith
Steve Jones wrote:
Sorry can't resist...
> And only 14% could place France on a map, while only 6% could name the
> language or the currency of France :-)
please ignore my previous post. you said it much better!
Zach
Chris Hilton
Kamran Iranpour wrote:
>
> Not very surprising. Ask americans where is the capital of
> their own country and they don't know.
Now obviously this isn't true, but you should see how many can't tell
you in what year the War of 1812 was fought. :)
disclaimer: The mention of the War of 1812 is in no way meant to start
an international flame war.
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Alan Douglas
Chris Hilton <chi...@scci-ad.com> wrote:
>> Not very surprising. Ask americans where is the capital of
>> their own country and they don't know.
>
>Now obviously this isn't true, but you should see how many can't tell
>you in what year the War of 1812 was fought. :)
In truth, I believe that I have heard that a very large number would
tell you that the '14 - '18 War (aka WWI) was fought in 1418. I
cannot substantiate claims however that many believe that WWI is a
wrestling federation :-)
But please folks, let's not turn this is into a bashfest of the
American educational system. Those threads tend to go on forever --
there's just too much material :-)
Cheers,
Alan Douglas
Marco van de Weert
Chris Hilton wrote:
>
> Kamran Iranpour wrote:
> >
> > Not very surprising. Ask americans where is the capital of
> > their own country and they don't know.
>
> Now obviously this isn't true, but you should see how many can't tell
> you in what year the War of 1812 was fought. :)
>
> an international flame war.
Ah well, I just learned that 14% of the Germans believed Hitler survived
WW II, and something like 20% didn't know when WW II was!
And to ridicule my own people: we had a television show about vacations.
Asking people where they were was quite funny: several didn't know.
Worse even, some people even managed to drive somewhere, but couldn't
point it out on a map!
Marco
James MacLeod
In article <359ca56d...@news.supernews.com>,
kst...@jps.net (Ken Stuart) wrote:
>From
>http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm
:
>
>A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
>percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52 percent
>knew it was a soccer competition.
>
>Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
>Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
>these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
>
percent
>of Americans knew the World Cup was being played in France.
>
Do a poll with the same people and ask them how many think Canada is a state,
and why they figure they can't get change in American dollars when they buy
something here.
Now a poll of 1000 people has to be suspect. Who did they poll? Who was the
poll done for? What were they demographics based on? Was it done in Compton or
Colorado? What economic strata did they think was worthy?
Are these polls coming from the same establishment that actively hates soccer
in the US?
The US has something like 18 million people playing soccer. Combine that with
just a TV audience who knows what you would get.
Maybe it is 24 million. If so, is that a bad number?
Peter L
> >
> > Kamran Iranpour wrote:
> > >
> > > Not very surprising. Ask americans where is the capital of
> > > their own country and they don't know.
> >
Count me as one American who don't know where our "capital" is. While I
do know that Washington DC is where our capitol is.
Jason
Alan Douglas wrote:
> he positive side, that means that roughly 24 million
> >>people in the US are watching and enjoying at least some of the World
> >>Cup. I figure that probably puts them among the top 25 or 30 soccer
> >>watching nations in the world (see Appendix A)
>
> Oops. As has already been pointed out, this should be closer to 20
> million as we're talking about a % of TV viewers, not total
> population.
In the US those figures are the same!
Stan collins
Peter L wrote:
Most of our capital is in the Federal Reserve Bank or the New York Stock
Exchange in New York City.
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Chris Metzler
In article <359ca56d...@news.supernews.com> kst...@jps.net writes:
>From
>http://worldcup.soccernet.com/u/soccer/worldcup98/covers/usa/uspoll63098.htm :
>
>A Harris poll of 1,000 adults conducted between June 17-22 showed while 74
>percent of Americans said they had heard about the World Cup only 52 percent
>knew it was a soccer competition.
>
>Even fewer Americans have actually tuned into the tournament, the poll said.
>Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on television and almost half of
>these people said they did not enjoy it, the poll said.
>
>The poll also found men had more soccer knowledge than women but only 25 percent
>of Americans knew the World Cup was being played in France.
>
When only 20% of U.S. adults know that it takes the Earth one year to orbit
the Sun, and a full 15% of U.S. adults do not realize that the Earth
goes around the Sun (no, I'm not making this up), I consider the numbers
you quote above to be kind of encouraging, actually . . .
-c
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In article <359a7787...@news.lightspeed.bc.ca> al...@lightspeed.bc.ca (Alan Douglas) writes:
>
>In truth, I believe that I have heard that a very large number would
>tell you that the '14 - '18 War (aka WWI) was fought in 1418.
Now, I slam the education system in this country all the time. To
be fair, though, it should be noted that in the U.S., WWI is *never*
referred to as the '14-'18 War. I'm not very ignorant about WWI; but
if you asked me about the "'14-'18 War," I'd probably respond with
"what? never heard of it."
Stan collins
Chris Metzler wrote:
> In article <359a7787...@news.lightspeed.bc.ca> al...@lightspeed.bc.ca (Alan Douglas) writes:
> >
> >In truth, I believe that I have heard that a very large number would
> >tell you that the '14 - '18 War (aka WWI) was fought in 1418.
>
> Now, I slam the education system in this country all the time. To
> be fair, though, it should be noted that in the U.S., WWI is *never*
> referred to as the '14-'18 War. I'm not very ignorant about WWI; but
> if you asked me about the "'14-'18 War," I'd probably respond with
> "what? never heard of it."
It's like the old "ethnic cleansing in Freedonia" question. The question itself is misleading enough
that it should be no surprise if people miss it.--
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Steve Jones <steve...@eurocontrol.fr> wrote:
> And only 14% could place France on a map, while only 6% could name the
> language or the currency of France :-)
^^^^^^^^
It's VISA, right?
Dan
d...@dylan.org
Chuck Pearson <cpea...@freenet.columbus.oh.us> wrote:
> the poll results you see here are just the AP trying
> to trash soccer yet again.
>
> i'd love to see them pull the same poll on baseball.
I'd love to see them poll how many Amis think AP news is littered with
the opinions of its writers.
Dan