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milivella

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May 6, 2012, 4:51:37 PM5/6/12
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What to do
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You have exactly 72 hours (i.e. 3 days: deadline May 9, 21:00) to send me an
email at mili...@gmail.com to maximize (or minimize) just one of the
following attributes:
[Mental]
Aggression
Anticipation
Bravery
Composure
Concentration
Consistency
Creativity
Decisions
Determination
Dirtiness
Flair
Important Matches
Influence
Off the Ball
Positioning
Teamwork
Work Rate
[Physical]
Acceleration
Agility
Balance
Injury Proneness
Jumping
Natural Fitness
Pace
Stamina
Strength
[Personality]
Adaptability
Ambition
Controversy
Loyalty
Pressure
Professionalism
Sportsmanship
Temperament
[Technical]
Corners
Crossing
Dribbling
Finishing
First Touch
Free Kick Taking
Heading
Long Shots
Long Throws
Marking
Passing
Penalty Taking
Tackling
Technique
Versatility
[Goalkeeping]
Aerial Ability
Command of Area
Communication
Eccentricity
Handling
Kicking
One on Ones
Reflexes
Rushing Out
Tendency to Punch
Throwing



The data
--------

Download them:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23425527/16.zip

If you want to download data from a previous season, just change the digits.
All the files will be available until the end of the game.

Folder name format: xx = player name (initials)

Old (2010-13) file name format: yyxx-za
yy = season (last two digits)
xx = player name (initials)
z =
- b: Biography
- g: General
- h: History
- i: Injuries
- m: Manager
- p: Positions
- s: Stats
- t: status in Team, and Team's placement in league
a = progressive number if the screen needs scrolling



The players
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Clément: Perro Andaluz
AMR AML MR AMC ST
2010 Pace
2012 Determination
2014 Technique

El Kot: Tortillo Patato
AMR AMC ST MR MC
2010 Minimize Injury Proneness
2012 Technique
2014 Acceleration

Futbolmetrix: Inigo Montoya
MC MR ML AMC DM
2010 Temperament
2012 Professionalism
2014 Concentration

Jesus Petry: Platillo Volante
DM MC DC DL DR
2010 Minimize Injury Proneness
2012 Pace
2014 Passing

Lléo: Arbol del Bosque
DC SW DM WBL DL
2010 Positioning
2012 Marking
2014 Tackling

Mark V.: Predrag Krkic
DM MC SW DC DR
2010 Work Rate
2012 -
2014 Minimize Injury Proneness
Determination

MH: Salvador Salvatodo
GK
2010 Reflexes
2013 Bravery
2014 Positioning

Real Mardin: Jose Unidos Sandinista
MC MR DR AMR WBR
2010 Creativity
2012 Passing
2014 Stamina

Sid: ¡No pasarán!
AMR MR WBR AML ML
2010 Crossing
2012 Pace
2014 Technique

Werner Pichler: Ramón Jamón
MR MC WBR AMC ST
2010 Creativity
2012 Work Rate
2014 -



The rules
---------

At the end of the game three [four?] rankings will be computed:
- caps
- top-tier league trophies in England, France, Germany, Italy or Spain
- higher wage (considering the highest wage in career)

First place in each category gets 7 points, second gets 4 points, 3rd gets
3, 4th gets 2, 5th gets 1, everyone else gets 0.

Add the points in all categories and you have the winner.



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Cheers
milivella

MH

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May 6, 2012, 4:53:32 PM5/6/12
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Add Handling

Sid

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May 6, 2012, 6:13:34 PM5/6/12
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* milivella [2012-05-06 15:51] [rec.sport.soccer]:
> [Mental]
> Creativity
>
> Sid: ¡No pasarán!
> AMR MR WBR AML ML
> 2010 Crossing
> 2012 Pace
> 2014 Technique

Add Creativity, please.

Sid
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Clément

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May 7, 2012, 8:03:06 PM5/7/12
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"milivella" escreveu:
> The players
> -----------

After looking at our 24 year-old frankies, I guess it's safe to say that
they all pretty much suck? =)

Except of course for Árbol and Tortillo.

> Clément: Perro Andaluz
> AMR AML MR AMC ST
> 2010 Pace
> 2012 Determination
> 2014 Technique

What is it with my frankies that they all end up in France? First Clementi
becomes a Bordeaux legend. Now El Perrito is plying his trade at Caen.

Quick question: why doesn't El Perrito's Technique score appear in his
profile (it's just a dash)? Shouldn't he have a Technique score, given how I
maximized it last cycle?

More general question, related to the former: why a lot of El Perrito's
scores appear as a dash? Even if he has low values, there should be a value,
shouldn't it?

Or is it just that he hasn't played enough in his career in order to have a
complete profile? This is what I assume it happens with his positional
chart.

Abraço,

Luiz Mello

Clément

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May 7, 2012, 8:24:54 PM5/7/12
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"milivella" escreveu:
> The players
> -----------
>
> Clément: Perro Andaluz
> AMR AML MR AMC ST
> 2010 Pace
> 2012 Determination
> 2014 Technique

Please add Work Rate.

[Can I change my mind until the deadline?]

Thanks for running this!

milivella

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May 8, 2012, 9:34:43 AM5/8/12
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Clément:

> What is it with my frankies that they all end up in France? First Clementi
> becomes a Bordeaux legend. Now El Perrito is plying his trade at Caen.

Mystic influence by your nickname. It's the simplest explanation.

> Quick question: why doesn't El Perrito's Technique score appear in his
> profile (it's just a dash)? Shouldn't he have a Technique score, given how
> I maximized it last cycle?
>
> More general question, related to the former: why a lot of El Perrito's
> scores appear as a dash? Even if he has low values, there should be a
> value, shouldn't it?
>
> Or is it just that he hasn't played enough in his career in order to have
> a complete profile? This is what I assume it happens with his positional
> chart.

Take my answer with the usual disclaimers... Our point of view is not "God's
eye", but rather what a virtual unemployed manager knows: "Nome Cognome",
you can see his name in each screenshot. We know what Cognome knows.

Now, the more famous is a player, the more Nome Cognome knows about him.
After all, it's realistic: everybody knows what are Messi's abilities,
everybody working in this field knows the abilities of most top division
players, and anyway you can learn about them on the web etc. But if a player
is less known, Cognome doesn't know everything about him: he knows some
(random, I guess) attributes, but not all of them. And if a player is
obscure, Cognome knows nothing about him - until he gets employed and asks a
scout to get information about that player, of course (but Nome Cognome is
Forever Unemployed!). A dash just means that Cognome doesn't know about that
attribute: it's a sign to mean "unknown".

And you're right, the same applies to positions (his degree of ability in
each of them, and the ones where he actually play).

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Cheers
milivella

milivella

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May 8, 2012, 9:35:13 AM5/8/12
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Clément:

> Please add Work Rate.
>
> [Can I change my mind until the deadline?]

Yes, you can.

> Thanks for running this!

Thanks for playing this!

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Cheers
milivella

Real Mardin

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May 8, 2012, 4:15:53 PM5/8/12
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On May 8, 2:35 pm, "milivella" <milive...@gmail.com> wrote:

My connection has slowed down too much to download the latest update,
so I'm somewhat shooting in the dark here, but please improve Jose's
decisions.

Thanks!


RM

milivella

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May 8, 2012, 7:53:51 PM5/8/12
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Real Mardin:

> My connection has slowed down too much to download the latest update,
> so I'm somewhat shooting in the dark here, but please improve Jose's
> decisions.

OK, but if you want I can send you the screenshots of just your player (all
or the ones you need) so that you'll be able to review your order. Let me
know.

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milivella

Sid

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May 8, 2012, 11:02:10 PM5/8/12
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* milivella [2012-05-08 08:34] [rec.sport.soccer]:
>> More general question, related to the former: why a lot of El Perrito's
>> scores appear as a dash? Even if he has low values, there should be a
>> value, shouldn't it?
>>
>> Or is it just that he hasn't played enough in his career in order to have
>> a complete profile? This is what I assume it happens with his positional
>> chart.
>
> Take my answer with the usual disclaimers... Our point of view is not "God's
> eye", but rather what a virtual unemployed manager knows: "Nome Cognome",
> you can see his name in each screenshot. We know what Cognome knows.
>
> Now, the more famous is a player, the more Nome Cognome knows about him.
> After all, it's realistic: everybody knows what are Messi's abilities,
> everybody working in this field knows the abilities of most top division
> players, and anyway you can learn about them on the web etc. But if a player
> is less known, Cognome doesn't know everything about him: he knows some
> (random, I guess) attributes, but not all of them. And if a player is
> obscure, Cognome knows nothing about him - until he gets employed and asks a
> scout to get information about that player, of course (but Nome Cognome is
> Forever Unemployed!). A dash just means that Cognome doesn't know about that
> attribute: it's a sign to mean "unknown".
>
> And you're right, the same applies to positions (his degree of ability in
> each of them, and the ones where he actually play).

Thanks for the explanation. I don't know much about FM, so this helps.

On a related note, can Cognome also be wrong? I am specifically
thinking of NP's attributes. I think I maximised something (Pace?) in
a previous round and the next set of screenshots still had Pace down
in the low single digits.

I might be completely off on the example, but the general question
still stands.

milivella

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May 9, 2012, 11:33:49 AM5/9/12
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Sid:

> Thanks for the explanation. I don't know much about FM, so this helps.

You're welcome. If you have more questions, shoot! :)

> On a related note, can Cognome also be wrong? I am specifically
> thinking of NP's attributes. I think I maximised something (Pace?) in
> a previous round and the next set of screenshots still had Pace down
> in the low single digits.
>
> I might be completely off on the example, but the general question
> still stands.

Answer to the specific question: I guess your memory is wrong (it just
happens). Here is what Cognome knew about the attributes you maximized,
after you maximized them:

Crossing (maximized in 2010)
2011 ?
2012 19
2013 18
2014 18
2015 18
2016 17

Pace (maximized in 2012)
2013 ?
2014 ?
2015 ?
2016 ?

Technique (maximized in 2014)
2015 ?
2016 ?

Answer to the general question (I'm pretty sure about it): Cognome is never
wrong. Clearly FM developers aren't evil game designers! :(

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Cheers
milivella

Sid

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May 9, 2012, 9:47:58 PM5/9/12
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* milivella [2012-05-09 10:33] [rec.sport.soccer]:
> Answer to the general question (I'm pretty sure about it): Cognome is never
> wrong. Clearly FM developers aren't evil game designers! :(

That makes sense. Thanks, again.

Sid

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May 9, 2012, 10:14:56 PM5/9/12
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* milivella [2012-05-09 10:33] [rec.sport.soccer]:
> Answer to the general question (I'm pretty sure about it): Cognome is never
> wrong. Clearly FM developers aren't evil game designers! :(

That makes sense. Thanks, again.

milivella

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May 10, 2012, 6:13:39 PM5/10/12
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The data
--------

Download them:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23425527/17.zip

If you want to download data from a previous season, just change the digits.
All the files will be available until the end of the game.

Folder name format: xx = player name (initials)

Old (2010-13) file name format: yyxx-za
yy = season (last two digits)
xx = player name (initials)
z =
- b: Biography
- g: General
- h: History
- i: Injuries
- m: Manager
- p: Positions
- s: Stats
- t: status in Team, and Team's placement in league
a = progressive number if the screen needs scrolling



The players
-----------

Clément: Perro Andaluz
AMR AML MR AMC ST
2010 Pace
2012 Determination
2014 Technique
2106 Work Rate

El Kot: Tortillo Patato
AMR AMC ST MR MC
2010 Minimize Injury Proneness
2012 Technique
2014 Acceleration
2016 Creativity

Futbolmetrix: Inigo Montoya
MC MR ML AMC DM
2010 Temperament
2012 Professionalism
2014 Concentration
2016 Positioning

Jesus Petry: Platillo Volante
DM MC DC DL DR
2010 Minimize Injury Proneness
2012 Pace
2014 Passing
2016 Crossing

Lléo: Arbol del Bosque
DC SW DM WBL DL
2010 Positioning
2012 Marking
2014 Tackling
2016 Dirtiness

Mark V.: Predrag Krkic
DM MC SW DC DR
2010 Work Rate
2012 -
2014 Minimize Injury Proneness
Determination
2016 Passing

MH: Salvador Salvatodo
GK
2010 Reflexes
2013 Bravery
2014 Positioning
2016 Handling

Real Mardin: Jose Unidos Sandinista
MC MR DR AMR WBR
2010 Creativity
2012 Passing
2014 Stamina
2016 Decisions

Sid: ¡No pasarán!
AMR MR WBR AML ML
2010 Crossing
2012 Pace
2014 Technique
2016 Creativity

Werner Pichler: Ramón Jamón
MR MC WBR AMC ST
2010 Creativity
2012 Work Rate
2014 -
2016 Pace
First Touch



The rules
---------

At the end of the game three rankings will be computed:

milivella

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We have a winner...

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Cheers
milivella

Clément

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May 11, 2012, 11:09:52 AM5/11/12
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"milivella" escreveu:
> The players
> -----------
> Clément: Perro Andaluz
> AMR AML MR AMC ST
> 2010 Pace
> 2012 Determination
> 2014 Technique
> 2106 Work Rate

A small progress, as El Perrito has seen more games for Caen, but nothing to
write home about.

(...)
> Futbolmetrix: Inigo Montoya

In his personal profile, the "good relationships" field reads: "Feels
Immobile is an influential player."

Immobile, what is this? A leftover from our first Frankickerstein game? =)

Then I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciro_Immobile

Dude, use your mom's maiden name or something. Your own is not the best
advertising, is it?

"We need a striker. What about signining that Immobile guy?". "No, that
doesn't sound good."

(...)
> Lléo: Arbol del Bosque
> DC SW DM WBL DL
> 2010 Positioning
> 2012 Marking
> 2014 Tackling
> 2016 Dirtiness

=D

Did he maximize or minimize this? Please, tell me he maximized it.


Abraço,

Luiz Mello

Clément

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May 11, 2012, 11:10:28 AM5/11/12
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"milivella" escreveu:
> We have a winner...

Whaaaaat?

[Evil post.]

milivella

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May 11, 2012, 1:17:50 PM5/11/12
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Clément:

>> Futbolmetrix: Inigo Montoya
>
> In his personal profile, the "good relationships" field reads: "Feels
> Immobile is an influential player."
>
> Immobile, what is this? A leftover from our first Frankickerstein game? =)

My exact reaction! More generally, now I see _too many_ Italian players'
names as Frankickersteinesque: e.g. when Alberto told me that he was picking
Insigne in Fantasy Scout I thought "wait, you can pick Frankies now?"

>> Lléo: Arbol del Bosque
>> DC SW DM WBL DL
>> 2010 Positioning
>> 2012 Marking
>> 2014 Tackling
>> 2016 Dirtiness
>
> =D
>
> Did he maximize or minimize this? Please, tell me he maximized it.

I tell you that he maximized it!

You'll soon see to what effect...

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Cheers
milivella

Futbolmetrix

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May 11, 2012, 4:52:09 PM5/11/12
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Evil gamemaster! I gues you mean that one of our Frankies has finally
won a title somewhere, because they're only 26 years old, so they still
have plenty of time to improve...
D
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