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Kicker Bundesliga Ratings Winter 2021/22

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Werner Pichler

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Jan 6, 2022, 9:47:56 PM1/6/22
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In brackets the player's position in the previous ranking (Summer 2021)


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Goalkeepers


Weltklasse (World Class)

None


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

1. Manuel Neuer / GER / Bayern München (IK-1)
2. Mark Flekken / NED / SC Freiburg (-)
3. Gregor Kobel / SUI / Borussia Dortmund) (NK-6)
4. Yann Sommer / SUI / Mönchengladbach (IK-3)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

5. Stefan Ortega / GER / Arminia Bielefeld (IK-5)
6. Manuel Riemann / GER / VfL Bochum (-)
7. Oliver Baumann / GER / Hoffenheim (-)
8. Péter Gulácsi / HUN / RB Leipzig (IK-4)
9. Kevin Trapp / GER / Eintracht Frankfurt (NK-11)


Shorter list than usual. No more Casteels (#2 in summer), Gikiewicz,
Hradecky, Horn,...


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Central Defenders


Weltklasse (World Class)

none


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

1. Nico Schlotterbeck / GER / SC Freiburg (NK-18)
2. Niklas Süle / GER / Bayern München (-)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

3. Manuel Akanji / SUI / Borussia Dortmund (NK-8)
4. Dayot Upamecano / FRA / Bayern München (-)
5. Moussa Niakhaté / FRA / FSV Mainz 05 (NK-6)
6. Evan N'Dicka / FRA / Eintracht Frankfurt (-)
7. Philipp Lienhart / AUT / SC Freiburg (-)
8. Lucas Hernández / FRA / Bayern München (NK-3 FB)
9. Kevin Vogt / GER / Hoffenheim (-)
10. Stefan Bell / GER / FSV Mainz 05 (NK-16)
11. Jonathan Tah / GER / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
12. Lukas Klostermann / GER / RB Leipzig (-)
13. Reece Oxford / ENG / FC Augsburg (-)
14. Rafael Czichos / GER / 1. FC Köln (transferred to Chicago Fire) (-)
15. Alexander Hack / GER / FSV Mainz 05 (-)
16. Joško Gvardiol / CRO / RB Leipzig (-)


The best defender in the summer ranking (Alaba) has left the league, the
second-best (Hummels) is getting old, the third-best (Orbán) became a
victim of the new manager's system.


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Fullbacks ('defensive laterals')


Weltklasse (World Class)

none


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

1. Alphonso Davies / CAN / Bayern München (-)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

2. Christian Günter / GER / SC Freiburg (NK-4)
3. Jonas Hector / GER / 1. FC Köln (IK-7 Def. MF)
4. David Raum / GER / Hoffenheim (-)
5. Jeremie Frimpong / NED / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
6. Benno Schmitz / GER / 1. FC Köln (-)
7. Silvan Widmer / SUI / FSV Mainz 05 (-)
8. Angeliño / ESP / RB Leipzig (NK-2)
9. Thomas Meunier / BEL / Borussia Dortmund (-)
10. Piero Hincapié / ECU / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
11. Cédric Brunner / SUI / Arminia Bielefeld (-)


A couple of interesting new names on what's usually the shortest list in
these rankings.


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Defensive Midfielders


Weltklasse (World Class)

none

Internationale Klasse (International Class)

1. Joshua Kimmich / GER / Bayern München (IK-2)
2. Leon Goretzka / GER / Bayern München (IK-1)
3. Ellyes Skhiri / TUN / 1. FC Köln (NK-13)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

4. Nicolas Höfler / GER / SC Freiburg (-)
5. Djibril Sow / SUI / Eintracht Frankfurt (-)
6. Robert Andrich / GER / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
7. Dejan Ljubičić / AUT / 1. FC Köln (-)
8. Florian Grillitsch / AUT / Hoffenheim (NK-10)
9. Denis Zakaria / SUI / Mönchengladbach (-)
10. Salih Özcan / GER / 1. FC Köln (-)
11. Dennis Geiger / GER / Hoffenheim (-)


Three Köln players? Is that right?
Sabitzer should have stayed in Leipzig.


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Offensive Midfielders


Weltklasse (World Class)

1. Thomas Müller / GER / Bayern München (IK-1)


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

2. Florian Wirtz / GER / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
3. Christopher Nkunku / FRA / RB Leipzig (NK-3)
4. Jude Bellingham / ENG / Borussia Dortmund (IK-6 Def. MF)
5. Jonas Hofmann / GER / Mönchengladbach (-)
6. Marco Reus / GER / Borussia Dortmund (IK-2)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

7. Emil Forsberg / SWE / RB Leipzig (NK-7 Wingers)
8. Julian Brandt / GER / Borussia Dortmund (-)
9. Mark Uth / GER / 1. FC Köln (-)
10. Jae-Sung Lee / KOR / FSV Mainz 05 (-)


Most notable names missing are Dani Olmo and Lars Stindl.


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Wingers ('offensive laterals')


Weltklasse (World Class)

none


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

1. Leroy Sané / GER / Bayern München (-)6
2. Kingsley Coman / FRA / Bayern München (NK-3)
3. Serge Gnabry / GER / Bayern München (NK-5)
4. Vincenzo Grifo / ITA / SC Freiburg (NK-10)
5. Jamal Musiala / GER / Bayern München (-)
6. Filip Kostić / SRB / Eintracht Frankfurt (IK-2)
7. Moussa Diaby / FRA / Bayer Leverkusen (-)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

8. Patrick Wimmer / AUT / Arminia Bielefeld (-)


A bit weird to have only one player in the National Class list.
Ridle Baku probably the biggest name missing here.


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Strikers


Weltklasse (World Class)

1. Robert Lewandowski / POL / Bayern München (WK-1)
2. Erling Braut Haaland / NOR / Borussia Dortmund (WK-2)


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

3. Patrik Schick / CZE / Bayer Leverkusen (NK-9)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

4. Anthony Modeste / FRA / 1. FC Köln (-)
5. Taiwo Awoniyi / NGA / Union Berlin (-)
6. Lucas Höler / GER / SC Freiburg (-)
7. Jonathan Burkardt / GER / FSV Mainz 05 (-)
8. Yussuf Poulsen / DEN / RB Leipzig (NK-10)
9. Andrej Kramarić / CRO / Hoffenheim (IK-4)
10. Stevan Jovetić / MNE / Hertha BSC (-)
11. Max Kruse / GER / Union Berlin (-)
12. Karim Onisiwo / AUT / FSV Mainz 05 (NK-8)
13. Georginio Rutter / FRA / Hoffenheim (-)


André Silva and Wout Weghorst the most notable exclusions.

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Germans Abroad to follow.


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Ciao,
Werner

Jesper Lauridsen

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:18:24 PM1/7/22
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On 2022-01-07, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In brackets the player's position in the previous ranking (Summer 2021)
>
>
> --
>
> Goalkeepers
>
>
> Weltklasse (World Class)
>
> None
>
>
> Internationale Klasse (International Class)
>
> 1. Manuel Neuer / GER / Bayern München (IK-1)
> 2. Mark Flekken / NED / SC Freiburg (-)

Mark Flekken: https://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2018/feb/26/ingolstadt-score-while-duisburg-keeper-takes-a-drink-during-game-video-mark-flekken
Not Mark Flekken: https://youtu.be/su14KZvlXmw?t=85

The first video leaves out a lot of context.

> Central Defenders
>
>
> Weltklasse (World Class)
>
> none
>
>
> Internationale Klasse (International Class)
>
> 1. Nico Schlotterbeck / GER / SC Freiburg (NK-18)
> 2. Niklas Süle / GER / Bayern München (-)

Who would have predicted that?

> Nationale Klasse (National Class)
>
> 3. Manuel Akanji / SUI / Borussia Dortmund (NK-8)
> 4. Dayot Upamecano / FRA / Bayern München (-)

Too inconsistent for a higher ranking.

> Fullbacks ('defensive laterals')
>
>
> Weltklasse (World Class)
>
> none
>
>
> A couple of interesting new names on what's usually the shortest list in
> these rankings.

Not a lot of quality in that list.

> Defensive Midfielders
>
>
> Three Köln players? Is that right?
> Sabitzer should have stayed in Leipzig.

Yes.

> Offensive Midfielders
>
>
> Weltklasse (World Class)
>
> 1. Thomas Müller / GER / Bayern München (IK-1)

Old man.

> Internationale Klasse (International Class)
>
> 2. Florian Wirtz / GER / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
> 3. Christopher Nkunku / FRA / RB Leipzig (NK-3)
> 4. Jude Bellingham / ENG / Borussia Dortmund (IK-6 Def. MF)

Followed by kids.

> 5. Jonas Hofmann / GER / Mönchengladbach (-)
> 6. Marco Reus / GER / Borussia Dortmund (IK-2)


> Wingers ('offensive laterals')
>
>
> Weltklasse (World Class)
>
> none
>
>
> Internationale Klasse (International Class)
>
> 1. Leroy Sané / GER / Bayern München (-)6
> 2. Kingsley Coman / FRA / Bayern München (NK-3)
> 3. Serge Gnabry / GER / Bayern München (NK-5)
> 4. Vincenzo Grifo / ITA / SC Freiburg (NK-10)
> 5. Jamal Musiala / GER / Bayern München (-)


> 6. Filip Kostić / SRB / Eintracht Frankfurt (IK-2)
> 7. Moussa Diaby / FRA / Bayer Leverkusen (-)
>
>
> Nationale Klasse (National Class)
>
> 8. Patrick Wimmer / AUT / Arminia Bielefeld (-)
>
>
> A bit weird to have only one player in the National Class list.
> Ridle Baku probably the biggest name missing here.

Wolfsburg has dragged him down.

> Strikers
>
>
> Weltklasse (World Class)
>
> 1. Robert Lewandowski / POL / Bayern München (WK-1)
> 2. Erling Braut Haaland / NOR / Borussia Dortmund (WK-2)
>
>
> Internationale Klasse (International Class)
>
> 3. Patrik Schick / CZE / Bayer Leverkusen (NK-9)

An easy one to put together.

> Nationale Klasse (National Class)
>
> 4. Anthony Modeste / FRA / 1. FC Köln (-)
> 5. Taiwo Awoniyi / NGA / Union Berlin (-)
> 6. Lucas Höler / GER / SC Freiburg (-)
> 7. Jonathan Burkardt / GER / FSV Mainz 05 (-)
> 8. Yussuf Poulsen / DEN / RB Leipzig (NK-10)
> 9. Andrej Kramarić / CRO / Hoffenheim (IK-4)
> 10. Stevan Jovetić / MNE / Hertha BSC (-)
> 11. Max Kruse / GER / Union Berlin (-)
> 12. Karim Onisiwo / AUT / FSV Mainz 05 (NK-8)
> 13. Georginio Rutter / FRA / Hoffenheim (-)
>
>
> André Silva and Wout Weghorst the most notable exclusions.

Silva should have stayed in Frankfurt.

Werner Pichler

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Jan 9, 2022, 3:53:52 AM1/9/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 9:18:24 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2022-01-07, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In brackets the player's position in the previous ranking (Summer 2021)
> >
> >
> >
> > Sabitzer should have stayed in Leipzig.
> >
> Yes.

He definitely never had to play left-back there.


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Germans Abroad


Top Leagues


Weltklasse (World Class)

None


Internationale Klasse (International Class)

Antonio Rüdiger / Chelsea (IK)
İlkay Gündoğan / Manchester City (IK)
Toni Kroos / Real Madrid (IK)


Nationale Klasse (National Class)

Marc-André Ter Stegen / Barcelona (IK)
Vitaly Janelt / Brentford (A average leagues)
Kai Havertz / Chelsea (IK)
Kevin Volland / AS Monaco (NK)


No Werner, for obvious reasons. Boateng didn't make the grade either.
Gosens is injured.


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Average Leagues


Herausragend ('Excellent')

Julian Weigl / Benfica (A)

Hany Mukhtar / Nashville SC (A)

Karim Adeyemi / Salzburg (-)
Deniz Undav / Union Saint-Gilloise (-)


Auffällig ('Conspicuous')

Lars Unnerstall / Twente (-)

Patrick Bauer / Preston North End (-)

Christopher Braun / Botoșani (-)
Maximilian Vittek / Vitesse (A)

Eric Martel / Austria Wien (on loan from Leipzig) (-)

Mario Götze / PSV (A)
Mesut Özil / Fenerbahçe (-)
Lukas Podolski / Górnik Zabrze (-)

Mergim Berisha / Fenerbahçe (H)


Botoșani. Sure.
Last hurrahs for Özil and Podolski.


Ciao,
Werner

Mark

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Jan 10, 2022, 11:33:21 AM1/10/22
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On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 8:53:52 AM UTC, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Germans Abroad
>

> Internationale Klasse (International Class)

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