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The John De Lange Sophisticated Prediction Contest - Standings after Round of 16

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Futbolmetrix

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Jun 29, 2010, 5:08:30 PM6/29/10
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Not exactly the standings. Rather, the standings for the final competition
assuming that everything from here onwards goes according to rank:

Brazil WF
Spain LF
Argentina, Uruguay SF
Ghana, Germany, Netherlands, Paraguay QF

Rank Name Total Score
1 AQB -32.9604
2 Voros McCracken -33.653
3 Collective_Simulations -33.8126
4 Castrol Football -34.5961
5 Chance de Gol -35.0522
6 ELO -35.234
7 Werner Pichler -35.6579
8 Futbolmetrix -36.0331
9 Lléo -36.0754
10 Collective_Humans -36.4458
11 CHRIS HORYMSKI -37.2276
12 MH -38.0779
13 Jesus Petry -38.2283
14 Miguel -38.8641
15 Joachim Parsch -39.1777
16 milivella -39.4617
17 Philipp Lucas -41.2321
18 Alessandro Riolo -42.4216
19 Agnostic -42.9751
20 juanvazquez -47.4937
21 Olcay Kara -69.5579
22 JK -106.167
23 Luiz Mello -106.802
24 Myk -108.037
25 Anders T -112.684
26 7h@ch -174.041
27 Jim Goloboy -179.221
28 Jussi Uosukainen -249.926
29 Nate Silver SPi -975.708
30 Binder Dundat -1187.68
31 Mark V. -1187.8
32 El Kot -1202.47

It looks as if AQB has cemented his position at the top of the standings and
is unlikely to lose it. Among the humans, though, everything is still wide
wide open.

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Binder Dundat

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Jun 29, 2010, 7:20:44 PM6/29/10
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On Jun 29, 5:08 pm, "Futbolmetrix" <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not exactly the standings. Rather, the standings for the final competition
> assuming that everything from here onwards goes according to rank:
>
> Brazil WF
> Spain  LF
> Argentina, Uruguay  SF
> Ghana, Germany, Netherlands, Paraguay  QF
>
>       Rank Name Total Score
>       1 AQB -32.9604
>       2 Voros McCracken -33.653
>       3 Collective_Simulations -33.8126
>       4 Castrol Football -34.5961
>       5 Chance de Gol -35.0522
>       6 ELO -35.234
>       7 Werner Pichler -35.6579
>       8 Futbolmetrix -36.0331
>       9 Ll o -36.0754

I really do not remember doing the sophisticated predictions for the
World cup? It was way too sophisticated for me, I must of done it
after a night at the local bar?

Futbolmetrix

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:57:01 PM6/29/10
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"Binder Dundat" <dun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I really do not remember doing the sophisticated predictions for the
> World cup? It was way too sophisticated for me, I must of done it
> after a night at the local bar?

There was an unofficial thread in which a bunch of people posted
sophisticated predictions for the first round. I used those. The reason that
you are close to the bottom of the standings is that you did not enter a
full matrix of predictions. In fact, it should really count as a "no entry".
I'm going to erase those next time I post the standings.

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MH

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Jun 30, 2010, 1:08:12 PM6/30/10
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Why do I get error thingies (# NUM) in the total column for all of those
teams for which I predicted a zero somewhere? How can I adjust those ?

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Jesus Petry

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Jun 30, 2010, 1:27:17 PM6/30/10
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The solution I use is to replace those zeros with a very small value
(1E-99, for instance).
You might have a problem with 1s too, in partial scores. The
workaround is more complicated then.

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

Futbolmetrix

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Jun 30, 2010, 1:45:15 PM6/30/10
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"MH" <MHno...@ucalgary.ca> wrote in message
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If your columns named d_r1-d_wf are in columns M-R, you can use the formula:

M3*LN(MAX(C3,1E-32))+N3*LN(MAX(D3,1E-32))
+O3*LN(MAX(E3,1E-32))+P3*LN(MAX(F3,1E-32))+Q3*LN(MAX(G3,1E-32))+R3*LN(MAX(H3,1E-32))

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milivella

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Jun 30, 2010, 1:52:53 PM6/30/10
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Jesus Petry:

Now you _have to_ tell what the complicated workaround is, since I
feel silly having thought "well, just put .9999 instead"! :)

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Cheers
milivella

Binder Dundat

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Jun 30, 2010, 1:57:20 PM6/30/10
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OK good, I was beginning to wonder if I somehow managed that
complicated, err I mean sophisticated matrix in a drunken stupor one
night?

Jesus Petry

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Jun 30, 2010, 2:28:32 PM6/30/10
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Actually, IIRC, it's only a problem for partial scores, and the
workaround was changing the formulae in the cells to avoid that the
sum of the fields inside a ln calculation was zero. So instead of (1 -
1) it was (1E-99 + 1E-99 + 1E-99 + ...).

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

milivella

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Jun 30, 2010, 3:05:44 PM6/30/10
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Jesus Petry:

Ah, now I got (well, almost...) it. Thanks a lot! :)

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Cheers
milivella

Voros

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Jun 30, 2010, 7:39:42 PM6/30/10
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On Jun 29, 5:08 pm, "Futbolmetrix" <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:

2nd is so bad. I'd like to become a multiple winner if that's
possible, but I'd certainly live with second. Certainly highlights
that you can indeed predict football matches with at least decent
accuracy using a statistical system.

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Voros

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