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UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023
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Ion Saliu
Nov 7, 2022, 6:50:59 AM11/7/22
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Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
• Leipzig – Manchester City
• Brugge – Benfica
• Liverpool – Real Madrid
• Milan – Tottenham
• Frankfurt – Napoli
• Dortmund – Chelsea
• Inter – Porto
• Paris SG – Bayern
The team listed first is the host in the first leg. The team listed second is the host in the second leg.
• First-leg dates: February 14 – 15 and February 21 – 22
•• Second-leg dates: March 7 – 8 and March 14 – 15.
Read also:
• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/tcJub7ByF3M
• UEFA Champions League (UCL) Group Stage 2022-2023
The final tables of UCL 2022-2023, the group stage; the last odds in the UCL group stage.
Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
• Leipzig – Manchester City
• Brugge – Benfica
• Liverpool – Real Madrid
• Milan – Tottenham
• Frankfurt – Napoli
• Dortmund – Chelsea
• Inter – Porto
• Paris SG – Bayern
The team listed first is the host in the first leg. The team listed second is the host in the second leg.
• First-leg dates: February 14 – 15 and February 21 – 22
•• Second-leg dates: March 7 – 8 and March 14 – 15.
Read also:
• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/tcJub7ByF3M
• UEFA Champions League (UCL) Group Stage 2022-2023
The final tables of UCL 2022-2023, the group stage; the last odds in the UCL group stage.
Al Kamista
Nov 7, 2022, 7:07:58 AM11/7/22
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On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 6:50:59 AM UTC-5, ions...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
>
> Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
>
> • Leipzig – Manchester City
> • Brugge – Benfica
> • Liverpool – Real Madrid
> • Milan – Tottenham
> • Frankfurt – Napoli
> • Dortmund – Chelsea
> • Inter – Porto
> • Paris SG – Bayern
Champions league haters rejoice - 2 of the 5 biggest TV draws will be knocked out in the R16.
> Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
>
> Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
>
> • Leipzig – Manchester City
> • Brugge – Benfica
> • Liverpool – Real Madrid
> • Milan – Tottenham
> • Frankfurt – Napoli
> • Dortmund – Chelsea
> • Inter – Porto
> • Paris SG – Bayern
Have to feel for Bayern. They dominate their group and draw PSG, while Inter toil to finish second and get Porto.
Bad news for Liverpool. Their last 4 CL exits have come at the hands of clubs from Madrid (3 RM, 1AM).
Ion Saliu
Nov 7, 2022, 7:17:30 AM11/7/22
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On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:07:58 PM UTC+2, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Champions league haters rejoice - 2 of the 5 biggest TV draws will be knocked out in the R16.
>
> Have to feel for Bayern. They dominate their group and draw PSG, while Inter toil to finish second and get Porto.
>
> Bad news for Liverpool. Their last 4 CL exits have come at the hands of clubs from Madrid (3 RM, 1AM).
Alkitser:
> Champions league haters rejoice - 2 of the 5 biggest TV draws will be knocked out in the R16.
>
> Have to feel for Bayern. They dominate their group and draw PSG, while Inter toil to finish second and get Porto.
>
> Bad news for Liverpool. Their last 4 CL exits have come at the hands of clubs from Madrid (3 RM, 1AM).
Axiomatic one, Porto is a better team, with a richer history. They are 2-time champions of Europe. PSG is just a bunch of ultra-highly paid players with petrodollars. Methinks the Bayerns say “Danke!” Didn’t they face a lower-tier team last season, Villareal?!
Al Kamista
Nov 7, 2022, 9:47:53 AM11/7/22
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The Doctor
Nov 7, 2022, 9:53:03 AM11/7/22
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In article <fe7e2049-f15e-4eef...@googlegroups.com>,
>• Brugge – Benfica
Benfica should pip.
>• Liverpool – Real Madrid
RM is a tough fight!
>• Milan – Tottenham
Tottenham pips is a tough one!
>• Frankfurt – Napoli
TCTC I favour Frankfort!
>• Dortmund – Chelsea
Chelsea should pip
>• Inter – Porto
Porto!!!
>• Paris SG – Bayern
Byern is tough fight!
>
>The team listed first is the host in the first leg. The team listed
>second is the host in the second leg.
>
>• First-leg dates: February 14 – 15 and February 21 – 22
>•• Second-leg dates: March 7 – 8 and March 14 – 15.
>
>Read also:
>
>• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/tcJub7ByF3M
>• UEFA Champions League (UCL) Group Stage 2022-2023
>
>The final tables of UCL 2022-2023, the group stage; the last odds in the
>UCL group stage.
>
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Ion Saliu <ions...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos,
>Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
>
>Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
>
>• Leipzig – Manchester City
Man C in 2 leg red card match!
>Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos,
>Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
>
>Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
>
>• Leipzig – Manchester City
>• Brugge – Benfica
Benfica should pip.
>• Liverpool – Real Madrid
RM is a tough fight!
>• Milan – Tottenham
Tottenham pips is a tough one!
>• Frankfurt – Napoli
TCTC I favour Frankfort!
>• Dortmund – Chelsea
Chelsea should pip
>• Inter – Porto
Porto!!!
>• Paris SG – Bayern
Byern is tough fight!
>
>The team listed first is the host in the first leg. The team listed
>second is the host in the second leg.
>
>• First-leg dates: February 14 – 15 and February 21 – 22
>•• Second-leg dates: March 7 – 8 and March 14 – 15.
>
>Read also:
>
>• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/tcJub7ByF3M
>• UEFA Champions League (UCL) Group Stage 2022-2023
>
>The final tables of UCL 2022-2023, the group stage; the last odds in the
>UCL group stage.
>
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Ion Saliu
Nov 8, 2022, 6:37:08 AM11/8/22
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Odds via BetMGM (USA) / Sports Interaction (Canada) / SkyBet (UK) / Ladbrokes (Australia).
Man City +175 2.25 13/8 2.63
Bayern Munich +550 6.12 13/2 6.50
PSG +800 7.70 9/1 9.00
Liverpool +900 7.80 9/1 9.00
Napoli +1000 10.09 12/1 11
Real Madrid +1100 10.07 12/1 13
Chelsea +1400 11.70 14/1 13
Tottenham +1400 13.26 16/1 15
Benfica +2000 18.38 25/1 17
Inter Milan +3300 25.93 33/1 29
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Ion Saliu
Nov 8, 2022, 6:59:43 AM11/8/22
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On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:50:59 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
Season Winner — Loser Score
2021–22 Real Madrid — Liverpool 1–0
2020–21 Chelsea — Manchester City 1–0
2019–20 Bayern Munich — Paris Saint-Germain 1–0
2018–19 Liverpool — Tottenham 2–0
2017–18 Real Madrid — Liverpool 3–1
2016–17 Real Madrid — Juventus 4–1
2015–16 Real Madrid — Atlético Madrid 1–1 (PK)
2014–15 Barcelona — Juventus 3–1
2013–14 Real Madrid — Atlético Madrid 4–1
2012–13 Bayern Munich — Borussia Dortmund 2–1
2011–12 Chelsea — Bayern Munich 1–1 (PK)
2010–11 Barcelona — Manchester United 3–1
2009–10 Internazionale — Bayern Munich 2–0
2008–09 Barcelona — Manchester United 2–0
2007–08 Manchester United — Chelsea 1–1 (PK)
2006–07 Milan – Liverpool 2–1
2005–06 Barcelona — Arsenal 2–1
2004–05 Liverpool — Milan 3–3 (PK)
2003–04 Porto — AS Monaco 3–0
2002–03 Milan — Juventus 0–0 (PK)
2001–02 Real Madrid — Bayer Leverkusen 2–1
2000–01 Bayern Munich — Valencia 1–1 (PK)
There is ONE and only one winner: MONEY. NO no-money (i.e. poor) team will ever show up on the winner list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ
Ion Saliu
Jan 27, 2023, 8:41:15 AM1/27/23
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• Manchester City +175
• Bayern Munich +650
• PSG +700
• Liverpool +900
• Real Madrid +1200
• Napoli +1400
Napoli, anyone? O sole mio…
By the way –
UEFA should change the rule regarding the final. The match should be replayed if it ends in a tie after 120 minutes. The champion determined 3 days later, even in a penalty shootout, will deserve a lot more credibility and respect. See also:
• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/f2B8MDSqA00/m/h2qbxzLIAwAJ
• The 2022 World Cup Best Team-Odds
Mark
Jan 28, 2023, 5:21:34 AM1/28/23
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Ion Saliu
Jan 28, 2023, 6:50:02 AM1/28/23
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Blueshirt
Jan 28, 2023, 7:12:26 AM1/28/23
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The Doctor
Jan 28, 2023, 10:56:55 AM1/28/23
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In article <nnd$3d28d85b$3a475893@2df8ce65b663bc09>,
Who is the dunce?
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Blueshirt
Jan 28, 2023, 12:54:05 PM1/28/23
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Mark
Jan 29, 2023, 8:20:27 AM1/29/23
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On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:12:26 PM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > Isn't UCL Union Champions League? UEFA is already an abbreviation;
> > you can't abbreviate it further to U. That makes no sense.
> U [EFA] C [hampions] L [eague] IS an abbreviation...
The U part is an abbreviation for an abbreviation. That seems nonsensical and extremely lazy to me! UEFA CL is short enough surely? And if not, why not ECL for European Champions League? (In fact isn't EC1 already an established abbreviation for the Champions League anyway? Why not use that ?)
> > Isn't UCL Union Champions League? UEFA is already an abbreviation;
> > you can't abbreviate it further to U. That makes no sense.
> U [EFA] C [hampions] L [eague] IS an abbreviation...
Ion Saliu
Jan 30, 2023, 11:56:07 AM1/30/23
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UEFA is a CONCEPTUAL abbreviation: It is a WORD of its own. Exactomundo like FIFA, etc. Therefore, ‘UCL’ is the correct abbreviation in the world of the sober. Put that pipe away! Put that bottle away!
Mark
Jan 31, 2023, 6:20:01 AM1/31/23
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What's this pipe and bottle you keep mentioning?
Ion Saliu
Feb 15, 2023, 5:37:09 AM2/15/23
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On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:50:59 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
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Tuesday, February 14, 2023
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• Paris SG – Bayern 0 – 1
• Milan – Tottenham 1 – 0
Ion Saliu
Feb 16, 2023, 7:06:33 AM2/16/23
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:37:09 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:50:59 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> > Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
> >
> > Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
> >
> > • Leipzig – Manchester City
> > • Brugge – Benfica
> > • Liverpool – Real Madrid
> > • Milan – Tottenham
> > • Frankfurt – Napoli
> > • Dortmund – Chelsea
> > • Inter – Porto
> > • Paris SG – Bayern
> >
> > The team listed first is the host in the first leg. The team listed second is the host in the second leg.
> >
> > • First-leg dates: February 14 – 15 and February 21 – 22
> > •• Second-leg dates: March 7 – 8 and March 14 – 15.
> >
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:50:59 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> > Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
> >
> > Following is the UCL draw, the round of 16, 2022-2023
> >
> > • Leipzig – Manchester City
> > • Brugge – Benfica
> > • Liverpool – Real Madrid
> > • Milan – Tottenham
> > • Frankfurt – Napoli
> > • Dortmund – Chelsea
> > • Inter – Porto
> > • Paris SG – Bayern
> >
> > The team listed first is the host in the first leg. The team listed second is the host in the second leg.
> >
> > • First-leg dates: February 14 – 15 and February 21 – 22
> > •• Second-leg dates: March 7 – 8 and March 14 – 15.
> >
> Round of 16 – Results
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Tuesday, February 14, 2023
> -----------------------------------------------
> • Paris SG – Bayern 0 – 1
> • Milan – Tottenham 1 – 0
Round of 16 – Results
-----------------------------------------
Wednesday, February 15, 2023
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Tuesday, February 14, 2023
> -----------------------------------------------
> • Paris SG – Bayern 0 – 1
> • Milan – Tottenham 1 – 0
Round of 16 – Results
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-----------------------------------------------
• Brugge – Benfica 0 – 2
• Dortmund – Chelsea 1 – 0
UCL was clearly eclipsed by EPL. Arsenal – Manchester City derby was more widely watched than either Champions League match.
Ion Saliu
Feb 22, 2023, 4:35:50 AM2/22/23
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Tuesday, February 21, 2023
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• Liverpool – Real Madrid 2 – 5
• Frankfurt – Napoli 0 – 2
Ion Saliu
Feb 23, 2023, 4:49:04 AM2/23/23
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Wednesday, February 22, 2023
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• Leipzig – Manchester City 1 – 1
• Inter – Porto 1 – 0
Ion Saliu
Feb 23, 2023, 5:08:49 AM2/23/23
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Tuesday, February 21, 2023
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Grave mistakes, gaffes, as a matter of fact, contributed to the final score. The sport of soccer needs… more mistakes of colossal proportions. It makes the game more spectacular. That’s what the Americans like best in sports. FIFA always complains that the USA is not more heavily involved in international soccer. Well, then, change the rules so that more dramatic “gaffes” are possible…
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• Liverpool – Real Madrid 2 – 5
A memorable game! The greatest match in the history of UEFA Champions League, some reckon? I can only say, from my perspective, that soccer needs higher scoring and turning the tables. After 0 – 2, Real Madrid scored 5 unanswered goals.
Grave mistakes, gaffes, as a matter of fact, contributed to the final score. The sport of soccer needs… more mistakes of colossal proportions. It makes the game more spectacular. That’s what the Americans like best in sports. FIFA always complains that the USA is not more heavily involved in international soccer. Well, then, change the rules so that more dramatic “gaffes” are possible…
The Doctor
Feb 23, 2023, 8:03:19 AM2/23/23
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Ion Saliu <ions...@gmail.com> wrote:
: > > > Round of 16 ? Results
: > > > -----------------------------------------
: > > >
: > > > ? Paris SG ? Bayern 0 ? 1
: > > > ? Milan ? Tottenham 1 ? 0
: > > ? Brugge ? Benfica 0 ? 2
: > > ? Dortmund ? Chelsea 1 ? 0
: > ? Liverpool ? Real Madrid 2 ? 5
: > ? Frankfurt ? Napoli 0 ? 2
: ? Leipzig ? Manchester City 1 ? 1
: ? Inter ? Porto 1 ? 0
Benfica, Napoli and RM might have it easy.
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: > > > Round of 16 ? Results
: > > > -----------------------------------------
: > > >
: > > > ? Paris SG ? Bayern 0 ? 1
: > > > ? Milan ? Tottenham 1 ? 0
: > > ? Brugge ? Benfica 0 ? 2
: > > ? Dortmund ? Chelsea 1 ? 0
: > ? Liverpool ? Real Madrid 2 ? 5
: > ? Frankfurt ? Napoli 0 ? 2
: ? Leipzig ? Manchester City 1 ? 1
: ? Inter ? Porto 1 ? 0
Benfica, Napoli and RM might have it easy.
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Ion Saliu
Feb 24, 2023, 7:33:00 AM2/24/23
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You mean qualifying to sfârtaie. I agree. I would add Dortmund and “Once Blitzkrieg” Bayern to the ‘Lucky Luciano Eight’.
Ion Saliu
Mar 8, 2023, 5:20:34 AM3/8/23
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Round of 16 – 2nd Leg – Results
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Tuesday, March 7, 2023
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• Benfica – Brugge 5 – 1
• Chelsea – Dortmund 2 – 0
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Tuesday, March 7, 2023
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• Benfica – Brugge 5 – 1
• Chelsea – Dortmund 2 – 0
The Doctor
Mar 8, 2023, 11:15:05 AM3/8/23
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Ion Saliu <ions...@gmail.com> wrote:
: Round of 16 ? 2nd Leg ? Results
: ? Chelsea ? Dortmund 2 ? 0
Benfica and Chelsea in the Hat!
: Round of 16 ? 2nd Leg ? Results
: ----------------------------------------------
: Tuesday, March 7, 2023
: -------------------------------------------------
: ? Benfica ? Brugge 5 ? 1
: Tuesday, March 7, 2023
: -------------------------------------------------
: ? Chelsea ? Dortmund 2 ? 0
Benfica and Chelsea in the Hat!
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Ion Saliu
Mar 9, 2023, 3:57:30 AM3/9/23
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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 12:20:34 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> Round of 16 – 2nd Leg – Results
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> Tuesday, March 7, 2023
> -------------------------------------------------
> • Benfica* – Brugge 5 – 1
> Round of 16 – 2nd Leg – Results
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> Tuesday, March 7, 2023
> -------------------------------------------------
> • Chelsea* – Dortmund 2 – 0
Round of 16 – 2nd Leg – Results
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
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• Bayern* – Paris SG 2 – 0
• Tottenham – Milan* 0 – 0
* = advanced to sfârtaie (quarterfinals)
The Doctor
Mar 9, 2023, 8:19:14 AM3/9/23
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Ion Saliu <ions...@gmail.com> wrote:
: On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 12:20:34?PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
: > Round of 16 ? 2nd Leg ? Results
: > ? Chelsea* ? Dortmund 2 ? 0
: Round of 16 ? 2nd Leg ? Results
: ? Tottenham ? Milan* 0 ? 0
: * = advanced to sf?rtaie (quarterfinals)
So far in the hat
Benfica (POR) Chelsea (ENG) BMunich (GER) ACMilan (ITA)
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: On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 12:20:34?PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
: > Round of 16 ? 2nd Leg ? Results
: > ----------------------------------------------
: >
: > Tuesday, March 7, 2023
: > -------------------------------------------------
: > ? Benfica* ? Brugge 5 ? 1
: >
: > Tuesday, March 7, 2023
: > -------------------------------------------------
: > ? Chelsea* ? Dortmund 2 ? 0
: Round of 16 ? 2nd Leg ? Results
: ----------------------------------------------------
: Wednesday, March 8, 2023
: -------------------------------------------------
: ? Bayern* ? Paris SG 2 ? 0
: Wednesday, March 8, 2023
: -------------------------------------------------
: ? Tottenham ? Milan* 0 ? 0
: * = advanced to sf?rtaie (quarterfinals)
So far in the hat
Benfica (POR) Chelsea (ENG) BMunich (GER) ACMilan (ITA)
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Mar 14, 2023, 6:05:24 PM3/14/23
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Tuesday, March 14, 2023
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• Manchester City* – Leipzig 7 – 0!!! (Haaalaand scored 5)
• Porto – Inter* 0 – 0
Real Mardin
Mar 14, 2023, 6:19:15 PM3/14/23
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Inter lucky? Perhaps, but then even the best teams need a little luck in cup football.
RM
The Doctor
Mar 14, 2023, 7:47:43 PM3/14/23
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In article <7cdaac1f-ba70-4f4f...@googlegroups.com>,
So AC, Inter, ManC, Chelsea, Benfica and BMunich in the hat.
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Mar 15, 2023, 6:56:51 AM3/15/23
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Perhaps, but then even the best teams need a little luck in cup football.
>
Blitzkrieg City didn't need any.
>
Ion Saliu
Mar 15, 2023, 6:05:11 PM3/15/23
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• Real Madrid* – Liverpool 1 – 0
• Napoli* – Frankfurt 3 – 0
The Doctor
Mar 15, 2023, 7:32:16 PM3/15/23
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In article <31f2d3d1-dc21-4a6b...@googlegroups.com>,
So in the Hat: Benfica (POR) Chelsea (ENG) BMUnich (GER) ACMilan (ITA)
Man C (ENG) Inter Milan (ITA) RMadrid (ESP *) Napoli (ITA)
3 ITA
2 ENG
1 ESP , GER, POR
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Man C (ENG) Inter Milan (ITA) RMadrid (ESP *) Napoli (ITA)
3 ITA
2 ENG
1 ESP , GER, POR
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Mar 16, 2023, 6:41:40 AM3/16/23
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Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
This phase of UCL, the quarterfinals, has a special relevance. Only the teams with a consistent presence in the quarterfinals for the past ten years win the Champions League title. This year, the following teams fall in that category: Real Madrid, Bayern München, Chelsea, and Manchester City. The latter has never won the competition, but has a chance now. It has reached the QF consistently, after all.
Therefore, this competitional stage of UCL deserves a special name: Sfârtaie.
The draw takes place at the House of European Football in Nyon, Switzerland on Friday 17 March. The ceremony begins at 12:00 CET and will be streamed live on UEFA.com.
The teams in the Champions League sfârtaie –
Bayern (GER)
Benfica (POR)
Chelsea (ENG)
Inter (ITA)
Man City (ENG)
Milan (ITA)
Napoli (ITA)
Real Madrid (ESP)
I stick with my first bet: Blitzkrieg Bayern.
Ion Saliu
Mar 17, 2023, 7:56:53 AM3/17/23
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On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:41:40 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
> This phase of UCL, the quarterfinals, has a special relevance. Only the teams with a consistent presence in the quarterfinals for the past ten years win the Champions League title. This year, the following teams fall in that category: Real Madrid, Bayern München, Chelsea, and Manchester City. The latter has never won the competition, but has a chance now. It has reached the QF consistently, after all.
>
> Therefore, this competitional stage of UCL deserves a special name: Sfârtaie.
>
> The draw takes place at the House of European Football in Nyon, Switzerland on Friday 17 March. The ceremony begins at 12:00 CET and will be streamed live on UEFA.com.
>
> The teams in the Champions League sfârtaie –
>
> Bayern (GER)
> Benfica (POR)
> Chelsea (ENG)
> Inter (ITA)
> Man City (ENG)
> Milan (ITA)
> Napoli (ITA)
> Real Madrid (ESP)
>
> I stick with my first bet: Blitzkrieg Bayern.
Champions League Sfârtaie (Quarterfinals)
> Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
> This phase of UCL, the quarterfinals, has a special relevance. Only the teams with a consistent presence in the quarterfinals for the past ten years win the Champions League title. This year, the following teams fall in that category: Real Madrid, Bayern München, Chelsea, and Manchester City. The latter has never won the competition, but has a chance now. It has reached the QF consistently, after all.
>
> Therefore, this competitional stage of UCL deserves a special name: Sfârtaie.
>
> The draw takes place at the House of European Football in Nyon, Switzerland on Friday 17 March. The ceremony begins at 12:00 CET and will be streamed live on UEFA.com.
>
> The teams in the Champions League sfârtaie –
>
> Bayern (GER)
> Benfica (POR)
> Chelsea (ENG)
> Inter (ITA)
> Man City (ENG)
> Milan (ITA)
> Napoli (ITA)
> Real Madrid (ESP)
>
> I stick with my first bet: Blitzkrieg Bayern.
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April 11, 2023
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• Real Madrid – Chelsea
April 11, 2023
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• Benfica – Inter
April 12, 2023
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• Man City – Bayern
April 12, 2023
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• Milan – Napoli
* 2nd leg April 18/19
Champions League Semifinals
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May 9, 2023
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• Milan / Napoli — Benfica / Inter
May 10, 2023
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• Real Madrid / Chelsea — Man City / Bayern
* 2nd leg May 16/17
Champions League Final
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June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
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• Real Madrid / Chelsea / Man City / Bayern — Milan / Napoli / Benfica / Inter
• There is no 2nd leg, but there should be a 2nd leg IF there is a tie after 120 minutes. Only the 2nd match should determine the Champion by way of penalty kicks. Dixi!
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Ion Saliu
Mar 17, 2023, 9:45:55 AM3/17/23
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On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 3:29:21 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
Yes, betting is an indicator. Thorough analysis goes into setting the odds. The bookies invest a lot of money, because they could lose a lot of money. Beginning with sfârtaie, there are no longer restrictions in the draw. Anybody can play anybody, regardless of country or city.
But how about the potential? Evidently, not all teams are equal. “Some animals are more equal than others,” as George Orwell put it so eloquently. So, to cut it to the chase, I propose UEFA (and all other sports confederations) should drop the draws altogether.
Instead of draws, they should apply the procedure in the NCAA basketball competition known as “March Madness”. Applied to UEFA Champions League sfârtaie, the following matchups should be established based on betting ranks:
• #8 v. #1
• #7 v. #2
• #6 v. #3
• #5 v. #4
Next, the following matchups should comprise the semifinals:
• #4 v. #1
• #3 v. #2
As for the Final, the lowest ranked team should be the “organizer” (“host”).
Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu,
Founder of Sports-betting Mathematics
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Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:
“Houston, we got a problem!” Look at this matchup in sfârtaie: Man City – Bayern. They are the top betting favorites. That is, they were the top two favorites to win the Champions League.
Yes, betting is an indicator. Thorough analysis goes into setting the odds. The bookies invest a lot of money, because they could lose a lot of money. Beginning with sfârtaie, there are no longer restrictions in the draw. Anybody can play anybody, regardless of country or city.
But how about the potential? Evidently, not all teams are equal. “Some animals are more equal than others,” as George Orwell put it so eloquently. So, to cut it to the chase, I propose UEFA (and all other sports confederations) should drop the draws altogether.
Instead of draws, they should apply the procedure in the NCAA basketball competition known as “March Madness”. Applied to UEFA Champions League sfârtaie, the following matchups should be established based on betting ranks:
• #8 v. #1
• #7 v. #2
• #6 v. #3
• #5 v. #4
Next, the following matchups should comprise the semifinals:
• #4 v. #1
• #3 v. #2
As for the Final, the lowest ranked team should be the “organizer” (“host”).
Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu,
Founder of Sports-betting Mathematics
• https://saliu.com/censorship.html
• "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
• https://saliu.com/betting.html
• Theory and Strategy of Sports Prognostication or Betting
Ion Saliu
Mar 17, 2023, 9:59:59 AM3/17/23
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Manchester City +175
Bayern Munich +275
Real Madrid +550
Napoli +600
Chelsea +1000
Inter Milan +2000
Benfica +2500
AC Milan +3300
Based on the criterion in my previous post, the fairest UCL Sfârtaie should have been as follows:
• Milan – Man City
• Benfica – Bayern
• Inter – Real Madrid
• Chelsea – Napoli
Most likely, there will be new seedings for the semifinals.
Ion Saliu
Apr 11, 2023, 5:01:52 PM4/11/23
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Champions League Sfârtaie (Quarterfinals) – 1st Leg Results
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April 11, 2023
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• Benfica – Inter 0 – 2
• Man City – Bayern 3 – 0
The Doctor
Apr 11, 2023, 7:28:23 PM4/11/23
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In article <45f2c14d-cf8f-4b17...@googlegroups.com>,
Still to interestng!
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Apr 12, 2023, 7:02:12 AM4/12/23
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On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 12:01:52 AM UTC+3, Ion Saliu wrote:
> Champions League Sfârtaie (Quarterfinals) – 1st Leg Results
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> April 11, 2023
> -------------------------
> Champions League Sfârtaie (Quarterfinals) – 1st Leg Results
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> April 11, 2023
> -------------------------
> • Man City – Bayern 3 – 0
Ultra Axiomatics:
It was a game-of-thrones-like between Fantasy and Fear. “Blitzkrieg” Bayern entered the match fantasizing about another humiliating skore against an English team; e.g. 7 – 2 against Tottenham and 3 – 0 against Chelsea, both in London, a couple of years ago. Manchester City, managed by a former Bartzelonian, feared a humiliating defeat, like that 2 – 8, also a couple of years ago. Perhaps a 0 – 5+ defeat would cure Bayern of their “addiction”.
Ion Saliu
Apr 12, 2023, 5:05:47 PM4/12/23
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On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 12:01:52 AM UTC+3, Ion Saliu wrote:
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• Real Madrid – Chelsea 2 – 0
• Milan – Napoli 1 – 0
Champions League Sfârtaie (Quarterfinals) – 2nd Leg Schedule
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April 18, 2023
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• Napoli – Milan
• Chelsea – Real Madrid
April 19, 2023
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• Bayern – Man City
• Inter – Benfica
The Doctor
Apr 12, 2023, 6:44:20 PM4/12/23
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In article <54b90cfb-b82f-40aa...@googlegroups.com>,
Too close to call.
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Apr 13, 2023, 6:18:13 AM4/13/23
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You can fill your 2023 Champions League bracket on UEFA site:
• https://gaming.uefa.com/en/uclbracket/
• Your Champions League bracket
I completed my bracket:
• Semifinals
Real Madrid — Man City
Napoli — Inter
• Final
Man City — Napoli
• Champion
Man City
Here is the image:
• https://Saliu.com/images/UCL2023Bracket.png
You can do your own bracket and post it here…
Ion Saliu
Apr 18, 2023, 5:02:19 PM4/18/23
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April 18, 2023
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• Napoli – Milan * 1 – 1
• Chelsea – Real Madrid * 0 – 2
* advanced to semifinals
Ion Saliu
Apr 19, 2023, 5:01:23 PM4/19/23
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• Bayern – Man City * 1 – 1
• Inter * – Benfica 3 – 3
* advanced to semifinals
Champions League Semifinals
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May 9/10, 2023
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• Milan — Inter
• Real Madrid — Man City
Ion Saliu
Apr 20, 2023, 6:36:43 AM4/20/23
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Champions League Semifinals – 1st Leg Schedule
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May 9, 2023
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• Real Madrid — Man City
May 10, 2023
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• Milan — Inter
Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
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May 16, 2023
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• Inter — Milan
May 17, 2023
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• Man City — Real Madrid
Ultra Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomaticilor et al.:
I wonder, what’s the purpose of this form of idiocy in scheduling? It does create an advantage for some teams. They benefit from two extra days of rest. It does count, UEFA stupidiots! Some explain to me that they have large egos, them UEFA fat-cats. And that creates idiots, by and large.
The Doctor
Apr 20, 2023, 7:53:53 AM4/20/23
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In article <a94db5a0-7fc7-4bad...@googlegroups.com>,
Milan Police now in super active mode!
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May 9, 2023
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• Real Madrid — Man City: 1 – 1
Ion Saliu
May 10, 2023, 5:04:51 PM5/10/23
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• Milan — Inter: 0 – 2
* The first leg of the semifinals was way below the average level of sfârtaie. Mediocrity to the power of two…
Ion Saliu
May 11, 2023, 8:12:54 AM5/11/23
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Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
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May 16, 2023
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• Inter — Milan
May 17, 2023
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• Man City — Real Madrid
Real Mad’ – Man’ City was boring enough — because of tiki-taka and fear of tiki-taka. Milan — Inter was a typical soccer match between two Italian teams: Ugly, violent, no clarity. Hey, that’s how the Italian teams won so many international trophies! As one famous ultra, Machiavelli, put it so eloquently: “The end justifies the means”.
“Cei care trec de sfârtaie
Nicicând nu o fac de oaie
Sunt cu adevărat berbeci:
Mielule *, de ei nu treci!”
* Also, indirect reference to ‘Mielu lu Mnezău’ (‘God’s Rabid Lamb’), former-actual owner of ZCSB.
Blueshirt
May 11, 2023, 12:40:19 PM5/11/23
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Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> May 16, 2023
> ---------------
> • Inter — Milan
>
> May 17, 2023
> ------------------------
> • Man City — Real Madrid
>
> The stubborn idiocy in scheduling… persists… of course. Inter and Milan
> play their second-leg match after 6 days. Real Mad’ and Man’ City play
> their rematch after 8 days. They benefit from 2 extra days of rest. That
> matters even at the beginning of the season, let alone the ending
> period. The Milan — Inter footballers looked exhausted toward the end of
> their match. It’ll be worse and… uglier in the second leg.
The six day/eight day break thing is a bit silly and probably unfair but
>
> Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> May 16, 2023
> ---------------
> • Inter — Milan
>
> May 17, 2023
> ------------------------
> • Man City — Real Madrid
>
> The stubborn idiocy in scheduling… persists… of course. Inter and Milan
> play their second-leg match after 6 days. Real Mad’ and Man’ City play
> their rematch after 8 days. They benefit from 2 extra days of rest. That
> matters even at the beginning of the season, let alone the ending
> period. The Milan — Inter footballers looked exhausted toward the end of
> their match. It’ll be worse and… uglier in the second leg.
it's mainly to do with TV rights, as both match-days can be in different
'packages'. In some countries one TV channel has the rights to Tuesday
night Champions League games and another channel has the rights to
Wednesday night Champions League games. (In Ireland, for instance, RTE
gets the Tuesday matches, Virgin Media gets the games on Wednesday.)
Players being tired or not, is not a part of it!
Ion Saliu
May 12, 2023, 7:01:48 AM5/12/23
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Granted, TV is the lifeline of professional sports. There wouldn’t be professional sports without television. The per-day packaging of TV rights is weird and rather unusual. UEFA (and sport's governing bodies) should not — must not — schedule based on an insignificant factor. The players’ performance, and especially health, are far more important factors.
The final stages of competition always attract more attention. Alas! They are of lower quality and the clumsy excuse is: “The players are ever-so-tired this late in the season!”
Blueshirt
May 12, 2023, 9:52:53 AM5/12/23
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Blueshirt
May 12, 2023, 12:30:51 PM5/12/23
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Ion Saliu wrote:
> >
> > Granted, TV is the lifeline of professional sports. There wouldn’t be
> > professional sports without television. The per-day packaging of TV
> > rights is weird and rather unusual. UEFA (and sport's governing bodies)
> > should not — must not — schedule based on an insignificant factor. The
> > players’ performance, and especially health, are far more important
> > factors.
UEFA would say that their revenue from TV broadcasting rights is very
> >
> > Granted, TV is the lifeline of professional sports. There wouldn’t be
> > professional sports without television. The per-day packaging of TV
> > rights is weird and rather unusual. UEFA (and sport's governing bodies)
> > should not — must not — schedule based on an insignificant factor. The
> > players’ performance, and especially health, are far more important
> > factors.
important and maybe point out that without that income we wouldn't have
the Champions League tournament that we have today...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/378203/rights-revenue-of-uefa/
[Outdated stats, but the income graph and revenue generated is telling]
Ion Saliu
May 16, 2023, 5:02:08 PM5/16/23
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May 16, 2023
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• Inter* — Milan: 1 – 0
* advanced to final
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May 16, 2023, 7:20:03 PM5/16/23
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In article <542da44a-c0bc-4459...@googlegroups.com>,
Inter goes forth!
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On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 2:20:03 AM UTC+3, The Doctor wrote:
> >
> Inter goes forth!
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Watch out, Sultan Erdogan (ex-goalkeeper)! The Istanbul Final could pit:
Inter Demolition vs Man Boredom!
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> >
> Inter goes forth!
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May 17, 2023, 4:57:58 PM5/17/23
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Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Results
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May 17, 2023
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• Man City* — Real Madrid: 4 – 0 (???)
* advanced to final
Champions League Final
----------------------
June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
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• Man City — Inter
June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
-------------------------------
The Doctor
May 17, 2023, 6:01:16 PM5/17/23
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Ion Saliu
Jun 11, 2023, 5:52:39 AM6/11/23
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UEFA Champions League Final
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June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
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• Man City — Inter: 1 – 0
BIG DISAPPOINTMENT! The most anticipated sporting event of the year of grace 2023 only magnified the fundamental weakness of soccer: L0W SCORING. The game is played on a very large field and, by rules, it is extremely hard to score. Therefore, there ain’t too much scoring; in turn, it all becomes a two-hour long BOREDOM.
By contrast, American pro sports are significantly more exciting. It is now the time of the NBA finals and the NHL finals (Stanley Cup). Of course, basketball is a high-scoring sport. Hockey is just a bit higher-scoring than soccer, but it is very fast, with almost non-stop action.
Both sports are a lot more exciting to watch for neutral viewers. In soccer, only the proper fans find the game exciting. They do not watch a sporting event — they live a… near-death experience. They live only for the RESULT. There is only the forest… without trees!
Incidentally, there is also a final in Grand Slam tennis this time of year: the French Open. That also is a much more exciting event than soccer for neutral fans.
Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
Founder Philosophical Science of Sports
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June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
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BIG DISAPPOINTMENT! The most anticipated sporting event of the year of grace 2023 only magnified the fundamental weakness of soccer: L0W SCORING. The game is played on a very large field and, by rules, it is extremely hard to score. Therefore, there ain’t too much scoring; in turn, it all becomes a two-hour long BOREDOM.
By contrast, American pro sports are significantly more exciting. It is now the time of the NBA finals and the NHL finals (Stanley Cup). Of course, basketball is a high-scoring sport. Hockey is just a bit higher-scoring than soccer, but it is very fast, with almost non-stop action.
Both sports are a lot more exciting to watch for neutral viewers. In soccer, only the proper fans find the game exciting. They do not watch a sporting event — they live a… near-death experience. They live only for the RESULT. There is only the forest… without trees!
Incidentally, there is also a final in Grand Slam tennis this time of year: the French Open. That also is a much more exciting event than soccer for neutral fans.
Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
Founder Philosophical Science of Sports
Ion Saliu
Jun 11, 2023, 6:05:41 AM6/11/23
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All those billions of petrodollars spent by some soccer maniacs with deep pockets! For what? For a “jewelry of crap”?!
I repeat for the Nth time. Soccer needs major changes in rules. Make the game more exciting. Hockey did it about a couple of decades ago. Even if there would be more mistakes “committed” by the players. The most exciting soccer match of this 2022–2023 season was one full of severe mistakes: Liverpool – Real Madrid 2 – 5.
Let the mistakes flood the pitch! It is so much more exciting. For starters, get rid of the antagonizing rule of offside. Also, make illegal passing to own goalkeeper. More mistakes would occur; therefore, higher scoring.
Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
Founder of Philosophical Science of Sports
Mark
Jun 11, 2023, 7:07:49 AM6/11/23
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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:52:39 AM UTC+1, Ion Saliu wrote:
> UEFA Champions League Final
> ---------------------------
> June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
> -------------------------------
> • Man City — Inter: 1 – 0
>
> BIG DISAPPOINTMENT! The most anticipated sporting event of the year of grace 2023 only magnified the fundamental weakness of soccer: L0W SCORING. The game is played on a very large field and, by rules, it is extremely hard to score. Therefore, there ain’t too much scoring; in turn, it all becomes a two-hour long BOREDOM.
It wasn't particularly anticipated by me. I watched the Women's Champions League Final instead. That was a good match.
> UEFA Champions League Final
> ---------------------------
> June 10, 2023, Istanbul, Turkey
> -------------------------------
> • Man City — Inter: 1 – 0
>
> BIG DISAPPOINTMENT! The most anticipated sporting event of the year of grace 2023 only magnified the fundamental weakness of soccer: L0W SCORING. The game is played on a very large field and, by rules, it is extremely hard to score. Therefore, there ain’t too much scoring; in turn, it all becomes a two-hour long BOREDOM.
And of course there's always other better tournaments like the Copa Libertadores and the Women's World Cup.
>
> By contrast, American pro sports are significantly more exciting. It is now the time of the NBA finals and the NHL finals (Stanley Cup). Of course, basketball is a high-scoring sport. Hockey is just a bit higher-scoring than soccer, but it is very fast, with almost non-stop action.
>
> Both sports are a lot more exciting to watch for neutral viewers. In soccer, only the proper fans find the game exciting. They do not watch a sporting event — they live a… near-death experience. They live only for the RESULT. There is only the forest… without trees!
>
> Incidentally, there is also a final in Grand Slam tennis this time of year: the French Open. That also is a much more exciting event than soccer for neutral fans.
>
> Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
> Founder Philosophical Science of Sports
I watched the Netball World Cup Final in 2019, and felt there were too many goals! A lead of less than 5 goals felt kind of inconsequential. So it is possible to go too far the other way.
> By contrast, American pro sports are significantly more exciting. It is now the time of the NBA finals and the NHL finals (Stanley Cup). Of course, basketball is a high-scoring sport. Hockey is just a bit higher-scoring than soccer, but it is very fast, with almost non-stop action.
>
> Both sports are a lot more exciting to watch for neutral viewers. In soccer, only the proper fans find the game exciting. They do not watch a sporting event — they live a… near-death experience. They live only for the RESULT. There is only the forest… without trees!
>
> Incidentally, there is also a final in Grand Slam tennis this time of year: the French Open. That also is a much more exciting event than soccer for neutral fans.
>
> Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
> Founder Philosophical Science of Sports
Ion Saliu
Jun 11, 2023, 8:52:09 AM6/11/23
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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 2:07:49 PM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
> It wasn't particularly anticipated by me. I watched the Women's Champions League Final instead. That was a good match.
Good for you, axiomático!
> It wasn't particularly anticipated by me. I watched the Women's Champions League Final instead. That was a good match.
> And of course there's always other better tournaments like the Copa Libertadores and the Women's World Cup.
The final at Roland Garros is coming up. It is must-see TV…
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Jun 11, 2023, 1:17:09 PM6/11/23
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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:52:09 PM UTC+3, Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> The final at Roland Garros is coming up. It is must-see TV…
Ultra-Axiomatics:
>
> The final at Roland Garros is coming up. It is must-see TV…
Novak Djoković has won his 23rd Grand Slam title at Roland Garros… 2023! He is now the UNDISPUTED GOAT — The Greatest Of All Time. Now, that’s a REAL champion!
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