WC2018 OTO2: URU-POR [PRE and R]

[anders t]

[anders t]

https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/match/300331544/

[anders t]

C-Ron will save Portugal.


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[Mehdi]

On 01/07/2018 00:08, anders t wrote:

> C-Ron will save Portugal.

I think this is beyond even him.

[Werner Pichler]

On Friday, 29 June 2018 18:13:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/match/300331544/


That was a *brilliant* goal.


Ciao,
Werner

[Abubakr]

Best of the tournament!

[anders t]

Shouldered.

[anders t]

Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly called
foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and a drop should
take place instead.

[Sven Mischkies]

anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:

> Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly called
> foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and a drop should
> take place instead.

Nah. Give him a pink card. Player with the most pink cards wins 'Sissy
of the Tournament' award. :P


Ciao,
SM
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[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:45:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
> >On Friday, 29 June 2018 18:13:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> >> https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/match/300331544/
> >
> >
> >That was a *brilliant* goal.
>
> Shouldered.

The last touch was the least important thing about it.


Ciao,
Werner

[anders t]

Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
>anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly called
>> foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and a drop should
>> take place instead.
>
>
>Nah. Give him a pink card. Player with the most pink cards wins 'Sissy
>of the Tournament' award. :P

:-)

Everyone knows we are talking about Suarez, right?

[anders t]

Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>On Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:45:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
>> Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>> >On Friday, 29 June 2018 18:13:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
>> >> https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/match/300331544/
>> >
>> >
>> >That was a *brilliant* goal.
>>
>> Shouldered.
>
>The last touch was the least important thing about it.

Nah, it takes away everything. They woz lucky. ;-)

[anders t]

Not gonna happen of course, but imagine a final between Uruguay and Sweden.
0-0, 0-0, PSO written all over it.

[anders t]

PEPE! :-)

[anders t]

Uruk-hai running out of steam?

[Sven Mischkies]

anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:

> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
> >anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly called
> >> foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and a drop should
> >> take place instead.
> >
> >
> >Nah. Give him a pink card. Player with the most pink cards wins 'Sissy
> >of the Tournament' award. :P
>
> :-)

Team with the SofT will have to wear flowery dresses in the next
installment.

> Everyone knows we are talking about Suarez, right?

Or Pepe. Or Costa. The list is long.

[anders t]

Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
>Uruk-hai running out of steam?

Haha! Woff gods not happy with my comment.

[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, 30 June 2018 21:21:11 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
> >Uruk-hai running out of steam?
>
> Haha! Woff gods not happy with my comment.

A good day for PSG players!


Ciao,
Werner

[Mehdi]

On 01/07/2018 03:04, anders t wrote:
> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
>> anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly called
>>> foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and a drop should
>>> take place instead.
>>
>>
>> Nah. Give him a pink card. Player with the most pink cards wins 'Sissy
>> of the Tournament' award. :P
>
> :-)
>
> Everyone knows we are talking about Suarez, right?

Neymar. See Cantona's video...

[Yama]

anders t kirjoitti 30.6.2018 klo 22:19:
> Uruk-hai running out of steam?

Not at all.
That goal was so beautiful I would marry it if it was legal in this country.

[anders t]

Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
>anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
>> >anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly called
>> >> foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and a drop should
>> >> take place instead.
>> >
>> >
>> >Nah. Give him a pink card. Player with the most pink cards wins 'Sissy
>> >of the Tournament' award. :P
>>
>> :-)
>
>
>Team with the SofT will have to wear flowery dresses in the next
>installment.
>
>
>> Everyone knows we are talking about Suarez, right?
>
>
>Or Pepe. Or Costa. The list is long.

I'd really like to see Suarez suspended for this one.
https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotboll/a/WLAyVd/svart-att-forsta--fuskar-hela-tiden

[zepf...@gmail.com]

Uruguay play with a lot of pride. I like them.

Is it me or both the Uruguay and Portugal look alike.. like long lost brothers.

[Sven Mischkies]

anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:

> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
> >anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
> >> >anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Suggestion: Every time a player embellishes an otherwise correctly
> >> >> called foul, the freekick (or penalty kick) should be forfeited and
> >> >> a drop should take place instead.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Nah. Give him a pink card. Player with the most pink cards wins 'Sissy
> >> >of the Tournament' award. :P
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> >
> >Team with the SofT will have to wear flowery dresses in the next
> >installment.
> >
> >
> >> Everyone knows we are talking about Suarez, right?
> >
> >
> >Or Pepe. Or Costa. The list is long.
>
> I'd really like to see Suarez suspended for this one.
>
>https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotboll/a/WLAyVd/svart-att-forst
>a--fuskar-hela-tiden

Why? He was fouled. Ok, it was in the back, not the head, but come on,
he is a football player, not a doc. ;)

[Sven Mischkies]

<zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Uruguay play with a lot of pride. I like them.

Yes. Love how the attackers work for the team, how everybody runs for
everybody.

> Is it me or both the Uruguay and Portugal look alike.. like long lost
>brothers.

It's you.


With Cavani off Uruguay lost its outlet, this will be very difficult 15
or so minutes for them.

[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, 30 June 2018 21:41:32 UTC+2, Sven Mischkies wrote:
> <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Uruguay play with a lot of pride. I like them.
>
>
> Yes. Love how the attackers work for the team, how everybody runs for
> everybody.
>
>
> > Is it me or both the Uruguay and Portugal look alike.. like long lost
> >brothers.
>
>
> It's you.
>
>
> With Cavani off Uruguay lost its outlet, this will be very difficult 15
> or so minutes for them.

But they wouldn't be Uruguay if they didn't know how to use every trick in
the book...

Portugal out-Portugaled!


Ciao,
Werner

[anders t]

Not a pen.

[Sven Mischkies]

They are Uruguay! They wrote the book! :D


> Portugal out-Portugaled!


Nope. The master showed the apprentice. :)

[zepf...@gmail.com]

Come on Uruguay won fair and square. Great to see a 3.5 million nation winning.

[anders t]

Quoting zepf...@gmail.com in rec.sport.soccer:
>Come on Uruguay won fair and square. Great to see a 3.5 million nation winning.

What are you on about? I said NOT A PEN.

[Chagney Hunt]

On 6/30/2018 3:57 PM, Sven Mischkies wrote:
> Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 30 June 2018 21:41:32 UTC+2, Sven Mischkies wrote:
>>> <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uruguay play with a lot of pride. I like them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. Love how the attackers work for the team, how everybody runs for
>>> everybody.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is it me or both the Uruguay and Portugal look alike.. like long lost
>>>> brothers.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's you.
>>>
>>>
>>> With Cavani off Uruguay lost its outlet, this will be very difficult 15
>>> or so minutes for them.
>>
>> But they wouldn't be Uruguay if they didn't know how to use every trick in
>> the book...
>
>
> They are Uruguay! They wrote the book! :D

lol

Wow, never in a million years would I expect a tough-but-fair contest
between Portugal and Uruguay. All the credits in the world to the
CONCACAF crews, they indicated from early on they weren't buying any
bullshit (Suarez got a slight push in the back, went down like getting
shot holding his head -- the refs happily allowed him to lie there);
after a few tries (Suarez the most persistent), most of them
concentrated on playing football rather than conning the refs. That's
how it should be.

[zepf...@gmail.com]

Yeah that was pretty much a gentlemanly affair by Portugal and Uruguay standards

[Mehdi]

On 01/07/2018 04:06, Chagney Hunt wrote:

> Wow, never in a million years would I expect a tough-but-fair contest
> between Portugal and Uruguay. All the credits in the world to the
> CONCACAF crews, they indicated from early on they weren't buying any
> bullshit (Suarez got a slight push in the back, went down like getting
> shot holding his head -- the refs happily allowed him to lie there);
> after a few tries (Suarez the most persistent), most of them
> concentrated on playing football rather than conning the refs. That's
> how it should be.

I'm not sure I'd credit the officials, VAR had a lot to do with it.
Suarez spoke about the VAR factor before the game:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/feature/var-leads-to-fewer-complaints-from-players---suarez-496250

“Of course the players are discussing it. Now penalties are sometimes
called in cases were they weren't previously. It means that many
[players] will complain less [to referees over their decisions],”

What we really need is for Neymar to get booked for his theatrics.

[Chagney Hunt]

The VAR crew are part of the officials.

[Sven Mischkies]

anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:

> https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/match/300331544/


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg9WibDXUAIMG_8.jpg

:D

[Murat Bey]

Uruguay were better than Portugal in every position. The better team won.

[ixion martin - GdBx]

Yama a exposé le 30/06/2018 :

Did you notice, after the goal, Suarez hurts Rui Patricio on
the floor ? What such a son of bitch !

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[FF]

I think that was a penalty in the final minutes, for obstruction. Unfortunately I couldn't find any video for it, let alone a good one. It's much more difficult with football videos these days.

That aside, the second Uruguay goal was superb. The first one too but the second one a bit better IMO.

As expected, Ronaldo didn't win it. In 4 years he'll be too old and Portugal's good moment will most likely be gone. Same holds true for Messi. 99% that none of them will win it in their lifetimes. Which goes to show what I said shortly before the tournament, the WCup will become less and less relevant. The UCL will be the main tournament from now on, actually it already is for some time. When they finally introduce the video ref it will be clear.

[Mehdi]

The World Cup is watched by far more people AND is on terrestrial TV.
That guarantees it will always be a bigger deal than the UCL. Is it a
higher level? No, and I don't think there are any experts that would
suggest otherwise but that's not really the point.

[Abubakr]

On Sunday, 1 July 2018 05:04:40 UTC+10, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:45:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> > Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
> > >On Friday, 29 June 2018 18:13:22 UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> > >> https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/match/300331544/
> > >
> > >
> > >That was a *brilliant* goal.
> >
> > Shouldered.
>
> The last touch was the least important thing about it.

Not shoulder, off the side of his face. It was a brilliant glancing touch.

And what a move.

Most aesthetically pleasing goal of the tournament for me. (Mercurial shots are a dime a dozen)

[Mart van de Wege]

FF <FAIRFOOT...@domainsbyproxy.com> writes:

> I think that was a penalty in the final minutes, for
> obstruction.

A penalty can *never* be given for obstruction, that's an *indirect*
free kick offence.

Mart

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[Mart van de Wege]

Mart van de Wege <mvd...@gmail.com> writes:

> FF <FAIRFOOT...@domainsbyproxy.com> writes:
>
>> I think that was a penalty in the final minutes, for
>> obstruction.
>
> A penalty can *never* be given for obstruction, that's an *indirect*
> free kick offence.
>

Well, OK, scratch that, if you throw in body contact it's suddenly a
direct free kick. Nice, another messy situation for the officials to
sort out in real-time.

[FF]

On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 10:10:04 AM UTC+3, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> Mart van de Wege writes:

>
> > FF writes:
> >
> >> I think that was a penalty in the final minutes, for
> >> obstruction.
> >
> > A penalty can *never* be given for obstruction, that's an *indirect*
> > free kick offence.
> >
> Well, OK, scratch that, if you throw in body contact it's suddenly a
> direct free kick. Nice, another messy situation for the officials to
> sort out in real-time.
>
> Mart

They don't have that excuse any more. Now they got the vireo ref.

[FF]

Video ref.

[ixion martin - GdBx]

FF a formulé ce dimanche :

I wouldn't have given a penalty for this. It looked like a
dive.

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[ixion martin - GdBx]

FF a pensé très fort :

> I think that was a penalty in the final minutes,

I spoke about the second goal of Uruguay.

[Murat Bey]

Oscar Tabarez: "The captain (Godin) was speaking to the players before the game and he said: We're playing for the father, for the mother, for the neighbour, for the brothers, so please give it your all".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvdGvFVYVcU

[Sven Mischkies]

What's wrong with their sisters?

[Florian Maier]

On 01.07.2018 22:35, Sven Mischkies wrote:
> Murat Bey <gerika...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oscar Tabarez: "The captain (Godin) was speaking to the players before the
>> game and he said: We're playing for the father, for the mother, for the
>> neighbour, for the brothers, so please give it your all".
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvdGvFVYVcU
>
> What's wrong with their sisters?

Talking about sisters on a football pitch is known to attract headbutts.

[ixion martin - GdBx]

Il se trouve que Murat Bey a formulé :

?????????
Irrelevant.

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[Mehdi]

On 02/07/2018 04:35, Sven Mischkies wrote:

> What's wrong with their sisters?
>
>
> Ciao,
> SM

They all wanted to sleep with Ronaldo?

[FF]

I guess this is also a little bit subjective. At a minimum, it isn't relevant any more for comparing the careers of top players. (And, of course, answering the fundamental question of our time, who's better, Ronaldo or Messi ? :) Fortunately neither of them will win it. Otherwise Messi would have had a little bit of an unfair advantage.)
To me, money and number of spectators matter less. What's important is first of all play quality, and the UCL wins hands down on this point. And, also, how good it is at establishing the ranking of top players, as I said. I'm an individualist. But, of course, people will always be interested in which NT is / are the best, so the WCup will always remain relevant, that's correct. (Also quality of officiating, of course, this is where the video ref comes into play.)

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[Mehdi]

On 02/07/2018 15:21, FF wrote:

> I guess this is also a little bit subjective. At a minimum, it isn't relevant any more for comparing the careers of top players. (And, of course, answering the fundamental question of our time, who's better, Ronaldo or Messi ? :) Fortunately neither of them will win it. Otherwise Messi would have had a little bit of an unfair advantage.)
> To me, money and number of spectators matter less. What's important is first of all play quality, and the UCL wins hands down on this point. And, also, how good it is at establishing the ranking of top players, as I said. I'm an individualist. But, of course, people will always be interested in which NT is / are the best, so the WCup will always remain relevant, that's correct. (Also quality of officiating, of course, this is where the video ref comes into play.)
>

There is more to this game than Messi and Ronaldo.

[FF]

I was joking. I indicated it. OTOH, having a good hierarchy of the top players is an important point.

[Murat Bey]

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 10:21:09 AM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 7:24:45 AM UTC+3, Mehdi wrote:
> > On 01/07/2018 09:54, FF wrote:
> > > I think that was a penalty in the final minutes, for obstruction. Unfortunately I couldn't find any video for it, let alone a good one. It's much more difficult with football videos these days.
> > >
> > > That aside, the second Uruguay goal was superb. The first one too but the second one a bit better IMO.
> > >
> > > As expected, Ronaldo didn't win it. In 4 years he'll be too old and Portugal's good moment will most likely be gone. Same holds true for Messi. 99% that none of them will win it in their lifetimes. Which goes to show what I said shortly before the tournament, the WCup will become less and less relevant. The UCL will be the main tournament from now on, actually it already is for some time. When they finally introduce the video ref it will be clear.
> > >
> >
> > The World Cup is watched by far more people AND is on terrestrial TV.
> > That guarantees it will always be a bigger deal than the UCL. Is it a
> > higher level? No, and I don't think there are any experts that would
> > suggest otherwise but that's not really the point.
>
> I guess this is also a little bit subjective. At a minimum, it isn't relevant any more for comparing the careers of top players. (And, of course, answering the fundamental question of our time, who's better, Ronaldo or Messi ? :) Fortunately neither of them will win it. Otherwise Messi would have had a little bit of an unfair advantage.)

Man files for divorce after arguing with wife over whether Lionel Messi is better than Cristiano Ronaldo.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/lionel-messi-vs-cristiano-ronaldo-12840823