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Binder Dundat

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Mar 14, 2012, 1:58:03 PM3/14/12
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I should get this out of the way now. We are supposed to have warm 20C
weather for the next week or so (normally should be around 5C) and I
just got 3 cases of wine, my three favourite flavours no less, red ,
white and bubbles.

Fr 16.03. 20:30
1899 Hoffenheim
-
VfB Stuttgart
-:- (-:-)
This is a derby, but I dont think it has a name yet? How do you look
at Hoff? Are they as good as Basle? Actually they are a little bit
better if you compare latest results? Is this an ON or OFF week for
Stuttgart? I have not really figured out their rhythm yet? I am
working on the theory that they follow the pattern of a Bach Sonata?
But this kind of research requires much wine and thought and I am not
quite ready to make my observations known to the public yet. I am
thinking they are presently at G minor though?
2-1

Sa 17.03. 15:30
Borussia Dortmund
-
Werder Bremen
-:- (-:-)
If Dortmund win and Otto gets his revenge, then Dortmund win the
league. I am sure I have put my theory across before, but it goes;
If you have a bigger point spread then number of games left, you win
the league. So after this weekend we have 8 games left, If Dortmund
have 8 points they will at least tie Bayern in the end, if they have 9
points or greater, they will win. This theory worked really well back
in the 2 point for a win days. I have not really modified it for the
3 point system yet, as it requires a lot of heavy drinking and time,
but someday I will have a new foolproof theory for predicting the
league based on games left and points.
As for the game, Pizzarro is out for Bremen, so they have no chance.
3-1

FC Augsburg
-
1. FSV Mainz 05
-:- (-:-)
I think the "points = no of games left theory"works better for
relegation? So at the moment you have every team for Nurmnberg to
Kaiserslautern in a possible automatic relegation spot. Therefore,
this is a relegation duel. Both these teams have been doing relatively
well lately.
2-2



Hamburger SV
-
SC Freiburg
-:- (-:-)
I like the new Freiburg coach, he has pizazz. Things were going well
for Fink and HSV for a while, but they seem to be back to their early
season "best".
2-2

1. FC Nürnberg
-
VfL Wolfsburg
-:- (-:-)
Alex Icewein is the hottest new striker since Pierre Lasogga, he is so
clinical in front of the goal for a young guy, it is like he has
Icewein flowing through his veins ( his actual name is Esswein by the
way).
3-2


Bayer Leverkusen
-
Borussia M'gladbach
-:- (-:-)
The Aspirin boys are the biggest headache in the Bundesliga, a
totally flat, horrible, lifeless team. Whatever happened to Sidney
Sam? Without him they are nothing. I usually do not advocate the
hiring and firing of coaches whenever there is a problem, but in this
case, Dutt is not motivating his team and really should go.
This is a Derby though, so who knows what will happen? I think BMG
have lost the quick attack down the wing without Patrick Hermann.
1-1

Sa 17.03. 18:30
Hertha BSC
-
Bayern München
-:- (-:-)

Otto's Revenge! He almost lasted a season at Bayern, but it was not
happy time. The next year he beat Bayern in the first game ( if
memory serves me correctly?) with K town and took Kaiserslautern up
to the title in their first year back in the 1ST DIV. I think that is
how the story goes? In fact he was by bayern fired weeks before
Bayern won the UEFA cup ( allowing Franz to be the successful coach).
So yeah he has to get his revenge? Not to mention some of the things
the bayern staff used to say about him!

Bayern got their groove back for the Champions league, so everyone in
Munich is happy again. They can now lose it again and suck for a
while.
1-0

So 18.03. 15:30
1. FC Kaiserslautern
-
FC Schalke 04
-:- (-:-)
Schalke have to win by a couple on Thursday more than likely, and i
think they can do it? just not sure how that will leave them for
Sunday's game? Or is making the UCL qualification more important then
the EL? I think they are the 3rd best team in the league and K town is
probably the worst?
1-2

So 18.03. 17:30
Hannover 96
-
1. FC Köln
-:- (-:-)
Hannover can still make Europa. I think Podolski is out for this game,
unless they overturn the red card from last week? Not that they should
in my opinion? Either way I am gonna pick H96
2-0

Sven Mischkies

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Mar 14, 2012, 2:47:50 PM3/14/12
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Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Fr 16.03. 20:30
> 1899 Hoffenheim
> -
> VfB Stuttgart
> -:- (-:-)
> This is a derby, but I dont think it has a name yet? How do you look
> at Hoff? Are they as good as Basle? Actually they are a little bit
> better if you compare latest results? Is this an ON or OFF week for
> Stuttgart? I have not really figured out their rhythm yet? I am
> working on the theory that they follow the pattern of a Bach Sonata?
> But this kind of research requires much wine and thought and I am not
> quite ready to make my observations known to the public yet. I am
> thinking they are presently at G minor though?
> 2-1


Let's hope the good side wins, even if it's managed by Labberdia.



> Sa 17.03. 15:30
> Borussia Dortmund
> -
> Werder Bremen
> -:- (-:-)
> If Dortmund win and Otto gets his revenge, then Dortmund win the
> league. I am sure I have put my theory across before, but it goes;
> If you have a bigger point spread then number of games left, you win
> the league. So after this weekend we have 8 games left, If Dortmund
> have 8 points they will at least tie Bayern in the end, if they have 9
> points or greater, they will win. This theory worked really well back
> in the 2 point for a win days. I have not really modified it for the
> 3 point system yet, as it requires a lot of heavy drinking and time,
> but someday I will have a new foolproof theory for predicting the
> league based on games left and points.
> As for the game, Pizzarro is out for Bremen, so they have no chance.
> 3-1


In theory this should be a no brainer - the masters of the counter
attack against the masters of staying open to counter attacks. Well,
times moved on, Dortmund are a bit off, and Werder are nowadays more
defensive than at least since Aad de Mos. Ah, good times - did I mention
before that in that season I was a proud season ticket holder? :)


> FC Augsburg
> -
> 1. FSV Mainz 05
> -:- (-:-)
> I think the "points = no of games left theory"works better for
> relegation? So at the moment you have every team for Nurmnberg to
> Kaiserslautern in a possible automatic relegation spot. Therefore,
> this is a relegation duel. Both these teams have been doing relatively
> well lately.
> 2-2


Nah, Mainz will be fine. But Augsburg need the points, and maybe they
can snatch them.


> Hamburger SV
> -
> SC Freiburg
> -:- (-:-)
> I like the new Freiburg coach, he has pizazz. Things were going well
> for Fink and HSV for a while, but they seem to be back to their early
> season "best".
> 2-2


Yeah, from Kamikaze-HSV to back Calamity-HSV. Well, if the defense has
no shocker for a change, then we should win this. Ok, with our meagre
offense in mind I'd be ok with a draw.


> 1. FC Nürnberg
> -
> VfL Wolfsburg
> -:- (-:-)
> Alex Icewein is the hottest new striker since Pierre Lasogga, he is so
> clinical in front of the goal for a young guy, it is like he has
> Icewein flowing through his veins ( his actual name is Esswein by the
> way).
> 3-2


Midtable duel, home team should win.


> Bayer Leverkusen
> -
> Borussia M'gladbach
> -:- (-:-)
> The Aspirin boys are the biggest headache in the Bundesliga, a
> totally flat, horrible, lifeless team. Whatever happened to Sidney
> Sam? Without him they are nothing. I usually do not advocate the
> hiring and firing of coaches whenever there is a problem, but in this
> case, Dutt is not motivating his team and really should go.
> This is a Derby though, so who knows what will happen? I think BMG
> have lost the quick attack down the wing without Patrick Hermann.
> 1-1


Gladbach are falling off the pace, while Bayer are gaining speed - home
win.


> Sa 17.03. 18:30
> Hertha BSC
> -
> Bayern München
> -:- (-:-)
>
> Otto's Revenge! He almost lasted a season at Bayern, but it was not
> happy time. The next year he beat Bayern in the first game ( if
> memory serves me correctly?) with K town and took Kaiserslautern up
> to the title in their first year back in the 1ST DIV. I think that is
> how the story goes? In fact he was by bayern fired weeks before
> Bayern won the UEFA cup ( allowing Franz to be the successful coach).
> So yeah he has to get his revenge? Not to mention some of the things
> the bayern staff used to say about him!
>
> Bayern got their groove back for the Champions league, so everyone in
> Munich is happy again. They can now lose it again and suck for a
> while.
> 1-0


Nah, Bayern are on a roll now.


> So 18.03. 15:30
> 1. FC Kaiserslautern
> -
> FC Schalke 04
> -:- (-:-)
> Schalke have to win by a couple on Thursday more than likely, and i
> think they can do it? just not sure how that will leave them for
> Sunday's game? Or is making the UCL qualification more important then
> the EL? I think they are the 3rd best team in the league and K town is
> probably the worst?
> 1-2


Lautern, the only team to score less than the number of games they play.
Should be tight, but it's Schalke's to lose. A lot will depend on
Thursday.


> So 18.03. 17:30
> Hannover 96
> -
> 1. FC Köln
> -:- (-:-)
> Hannover can still make Europa. I think Podolski is out for this game,
> unless they overturn the red card from last week? Not that they should
> in my opinion? Either way I am gonna pick H96
> 2-0


96 are middling about, and so are Koeln. Draw.


Ciao,
SM
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Werner Pichler

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Mar 14, 2012, 2:53:30 PM3/14/12
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On 14 Mrz., 18:58, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I should get this out of the way now. We are supposed to have warm 20C
> weather for the next week or so (normally should be around 5C) and I
> just got 3 cases of wine, my three favourite flavours no less, red ,
> white and bubbles.
>
> Fr      16.03. 20:30
> 1899 Hoffenheim
>          -
> VfB Stuttgart
>         -:- (-:-)
> This is a derby, but I dont think it has a name yet?

Not enough history to be considered as such, but
the Baden vs. Württemberg thing might give it some
significance. Though the real enemy in that regard
(from a Stuttgart point of view) is Karlsruhe.

> How do you look
> at Hoff? Are they as good as Basle? Actually they are a little bit
> better if you compare latest results?   Is this an ON or OFF week for
> Stuttgart? I have not really figured out their rhythm yet? I am
> working on the theory that they follow the pattern of a Bach Sonata?
> But this kind of research requires much wine and thought and I am not
> quite ready to make my observations known to the public yet.    I am
> thinking they are presently at  G minor though?

Yeah, not sharp enough. 0-0

> 2-1


> Sa      17.03. 15:30
> Borussia Dortmund
>          -
> Werder Bremen
>         -:- (-:-)
>  If Dortmund win and Otto gets his revenge, then Dortmund win the
> league. I am sure I have put my theory across before, but it goes;
> If you have a bigger point spread then number of games left, you win
> the league. So after this weekend we have 8 games left, If Dortmund
> have 8 points they will at least tie Bayern in the end, if they have 9
> points or greater, they will win. This theory worked really well back
> in the 2 point for a win days.  I have not really modified it for the
> 3 point system yet, as it requires a lot of heavy drinking and time,
> but someday I will have a new foolproof theory for predicting the
> league based on games left and points.
> As for the game, Pizzarro is out for Bremen, so they have no chance.
> 3-1

1-1


> FC Augsburg
>          -
> 1. FSV Mainz 05
>         -:- (-:-)
> I think the "points = no of games left theory"works better for
> relegation? So at the moment you have every team for Nurmnberg to
> Kaiserslautern in a possible automatic relegation spot. Therefore,
> this is a relegation duel. Both these teams have been doing relatively
> well lately.
> 2-2

1-2

> Hamburger SV
>          -
> SC Freiburg
>         -:- (-:-)
> I like the new Freiburg coach, he has pizazz.  Things were going well
> for Fink and HSV for a while, but they seem to be back to their early
> season "best".
> 2-2

0-0

> 1. FC Nürnberg
>          -
> VfL Wolfsburg
>         -:- (-:-)
> Alex Icewein is the hottest new striker since Pierre Lasogga, he is so
> clinical in front of the goal for a young guy, it is like he has
> Icewein flowing through his veins ( his actual name is Esswein by the
> way).
> 3-2

1-1

> Bayer Leverkusen
>          -
> Borussia M'gladbach
>         -:- (-:-)
>  The Aspirin boys are the biggest headache in the Bundesliga, a
> totally flat, horrible, lifeless team. Whatever happened to Sidney
> Sam?

Hamstring injury, I think.

> Without him they are nothing. I usually do not advocate the
> hiring and firing of coaches whenever there is a problem, but in this
> case, Dutt is not motivating his team and really should go.
> This is a Derby though, so who knows what will happen? I think BMG
> have lost the quick attack down the wing without Patrick Hermann.
> 1-1

1-0

> Sa      17.03. 18:30
> Hertha BSC
>          -
> Bayern München
>         -:- (-:-)
>
> Otto's Revenge! He almost lasted a season at Bayern, but it was not
> happy time.  The next year he beat Bayern in the first game ( if
> memory serves me correctly?) with K town and took  Kaiserslautern up
> to the title in their first year back in the 1ST DIV. I think that is
> how the story goes?  In fact he was by bayern fired weeks before
> Bayern won the UEFA cup ( allowing Franz to be the successful coach).
> So yeah he has to get his revenge?

Well, obviously he already got it with Kaiserslautern. How long
does that revenge thing last?

> Not to mention some of the things
> the bayern staff used to say about him!
>
> Bayern got their groove back for the Champions league, so everyone in
> Munich is happy again. They can now lose it again and suck for a
> while.
> 1-0

0-2

> So      18.03. 15:30
> 1. FC Kaiserslautern
>          -
> FC Schalke 04
>         -:- (-:-)
> Schalke have to win by a couple on Thursday more than likely, and i
> think they can do it? just not sure how that will leave them for
> Sunday's game? Or is making the UCL qualification more important then
> the EL? I think they are the 3rd best team in the league and K town is
> probably the worst?
> 1-2

1-3

> So      18.03. 17:30
> Hannover 96
>          -
> 1. FC Köln
>         -:- (-:-)
> Hannover can still make Europa.

Of course, by winning the EL!

>I think Podolski is out for this game,
> unless they overturn the red card from last week? Not that they should
> in my opinion? Either way I am gonna pick H96
> 2-0

2-1


Ciao,
Werner

MH

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Mar 14, 2012, 3:29:32 PM3/14/12
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On 12-03-14 12:53 PM, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On 14 Mrz., 18:58, Binder Dundat<dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I should get this out of the way now. We are supposed to have warm 20C
>> weather for the next week

Back to winter for us, I think. But I am heading off to the Emerald
Isle on weds anyhow.


>> Fr 16.03. 20:30
>> 1899 Hoffenheim
>> -
>> VfB Stuttgart
>> -:- (-:-)
>> This is a derby, but I dont think it has a name yet?
>


> Yeah, not sharp enough. 0-0
>
>> 2-1

1-2

>
>
>> Sa 17.03. 15:30
>> Borussia Dortmund
>> -
>> Werder Bremen
>> -:- (-:-)

>> 3-1
>
> 1-1

2-0
>
>
>> FC Augsburg
>> -
>> 1. FSV Mainz 05
>> -:- (-:-)
>> I think the "points = no of games left theory"works better for
>> relegation? So at the moment you have every team for Nurmnberg to
>> Kaiserslautern in a possible automatic relegation spot. Therefore,
>> this is a relegation duel. Both these teams have been doing relatively
>> well lately.
>> 2-2
>
> 1-2
>
1-0


>> Hamburger SV
>> -
>> SC Freiburg
>> -:- (-:-)
>> I like the new Freiburg coach, he has pizazz. Things were going well
>> for Fink and HSV for a while, but they seem to be back to their early
>> season "best".
>> 2-2
>
> 0-0
>
HSV must be able to win this, no ?

2-0

>> 1. FC Nürnberg
>> -
>> VfL Wolfsburg
>> -:- (-:-)
>> Alex Icewein is the hottest new striker since Pierre Lasogga, he is so
>> clinical in front of the goal for a young guy, it is like he has
>> Icewein flowing through his veins ( his actual name is Esswein by the
>> way).
>> 3-2
>
> 1-1

2-2
>
>> Bayer Leverkusen
>> -
>> Borussia M'gladbach
>> -:- (-:-)
>>
>
> 1-0
>
2-1

>> Sa 17.03. 18:30
>> Hertha BSC
>> -
>> Bayern München
>> -:- (-:-)
>
>
> 0-2
>
1-4



>> So 18.03. 15:30
>> 1. FC Kaiserslautern
>> -
>> FC Schalke 04
>> -:- (-:-)
>> Schalke have to win by a couple on Thursday more than likely, and i
>> think they can do it? just not sure how that will leave them for
>> Sunday's game? Or is making the UCL qualification more important then
>> the EL? I think they are the 3rd best team in the league and K town is
>> probably the worst?
>> 1-2
>
> 1-3
>
0-1

>> So 18.03. 17:30
>> Hannover 96
>> -
>> 1. FC Köln
>> -:- (-:-)
>> Hannover can still make Europa.
>

>> I think Podolski is out for this game,
>> unless they overturn the red card from last week? Not that they should
>> in my opinion? Either way I am gonna pick H96
>> 2-0
>
> 2-1

1-1
>
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

Sven Mischkies

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Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 14 Mrz., 18:58, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I should get this out of the way now. We are supposed to have warm 20C
> > weather for the next week or so (normally should be around 5C) and I
> > just got 3 cases of wine, my three favourite flavours no less, red ,
> > white and bubbles.
> >
> > Fr 16.03. 20:30
> > 1899 Hoffenheim
> > -
> > VfB Stuttgart
> > -:- (-:-)
> > This is a derby, but I dont think it has a name yet?
>
> Not enough history to be considered as such, but
> the Baden vs. Württemberg thing might give it some
> significance. Though the real enemy in that regard
> (from a Stuttgart point of view) is Karlsruhe.


The bit of history that is there is that the oh so focussed on its own
youth development Cunt^WHopp plundered VfB's youth system in the past.


> > Hannover can still make Europa.
>
> Of course, by winning the EL!


:)

Jesper Lauridsen

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Mar 15, 2012, 7:37:24 PM3/15/12
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On 2012-03-14, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fr 16.03. 20:30
> 1899 Hoffenheim
> -
> VfB Stuttgart
> -:- (-:-)

Time to predict draws for Hoff again. 1-1

> Sa 17.03. 15:30
> Borussia Dortmund
> -
> Werder Bremen
> -:- (-:-)
> As for the game, Pizzarro is out for Bremen, so they have no chance.

About time he was called for his dirty tricks. 2-0

> FC Augsburg
> -
> 1. FSV Mainz 05
> -:- (-:-)

Augsburg for real, or was it just a temporary flash? 1-2

> Hamburger SV
> -
> SC Freiburg
> -:- (-:-)

Probably the most important match of the season for HSV. 1-0

> 1. FC Nürnberg
> -
> VfL Wolfsburg

2-0

> Bayer Leverkusen
> -
> Borussia M'gladbach

Two teams not doing so well. 2-2

> Sa 17.03. 18:30
> Hertha BSC
> -
> Bayern München

Late match, away and just after CL play. Everything points to a Bayern
disappointment, but I have to ignore trends. 1-3

> So 18.03. 15:30
> 1. FC Kaiserslautern
> -
> FC Schalke 04

Kaiserslautern sucks. 0-1

> So 18.03. 17:30
> Hannover 96
> -
> 1. FC Köln

So far I've picked all the towns I've been through this week to win, so
lets make it a full set. 2-0

Sven Mischkies

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Mar 15, 2012, 7:43:20 PM3/15/12
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Jesper Lauridsen <rors...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:

> > Hamburger SV
> > -
> > SC Freiburg
> > -:- (-:-)
>
> Probably the most important match of the season for HSV. 1-0


Remember where we were after 6 games. Then we got that lucky win in
Stuttgart, an unlucky home defeat against Schalke, and another lucky win
in Freiburg. Without those we may never have left the last place.

Jesper Lauridsen

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Mar 15, 2012, 7:55:23 PM3/15/12
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On 2012-03-14, Sven Mischkies <hs...@der-ball-ist-rund.net> wrote:
> Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Fr 16.03. 20:30
>> 1899 Hoffenheim
>> -
>> VfB Stuttgart
>
> Let's hope the good side wins, even if it's managed by Labberdia.

Labbadia has survived in the job for 15 months now, making him the
longest serving Stuttgart manager since Veh.

Sven Mischkies

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Mar 15, 2012, 8:33:48 PM3/15/12
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Yes, and their form picked up in the second half of the season, which is
something new for him. Maybe he is turning his career around?

MH

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On 12-03-14 1:29 PM, MH wrote:
> On 12-03-14 12:53 PM, Werner Pichler wrote:
>> On 14 Mrz., 18:58, Binder Dundat<dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I should get this out of the way now. We are supposed to have warm 20C
>>> weather for the next week
>
> Back to winter for us, I think. But I am heading off to the Emerald Isle
> on weds anyhow.
>
>
>>> Fr 16.03. 20:30
>>> 1899 Hoffenheim
>>> -
>>> VfB Stuttgart
>>> -:- (-:-)
>>> This is a derby, but I dont think it has a name yet?
>>
>
>
>> Yeah, not sharp enough. 0-0
>>
>>> 2-1
>
> 1-2

So far so good. VfB 2 goals by Ibisevic in the first half, hang on
despite conceding a penalty in second half.

Sven Mischkies

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Sven Mischkies <hs...@der-ball-ist-rund.net> wrote:

> > Hamburger SV
> > -
> > SC Freiburg
> > -:- (-:-)
> > I like the new Freiburg coach, he has pizazz. Things were going well
> > for Fink and HSV for a while, but they seem to be back to their early
> > season "best".
> > 2-2
>
>
> Yeah, from Kamikaze-HSV to back Calamity-HSV. Well, if the defense has
> no shocker for a change, then we should win this. Ok, with our meagre
> offense in mind I'd be ok with a draw.


The problem of course it that our defense will be Bruma and Mancienne -
who never played together. Additionally the duo Tesche/Jarolim in
midfield.

0-1 after 25 minutes, Freiburg had one chance that needed 2 deflections
to go in. When it rains, it pours.

Sven Mischkies

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Mar 17, 2012, 11:16:15 AM3/17/12
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43rd, 0-2. HSV totally off the charts since the first goal. Never seen a
HSV team so nervous.

Oh, did I mention that the assist for the first goal was Jarolim's?

Jesper Lauridsen

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On 2012-03-15, Sven Mischkies <hs...@der-ball-ist-rund.net> wrote:
> Jesper Lauridsen <rors...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
>
>> > Hamburger SV
>> > -
>> > SC Freiburg
>> > -:- (-:-)
>>
>> Probably the most important match of the season for HSV. 1-0
>
>
> Remember where we were after 6 games. Then we got that lucky win in
> Stuttgart, an unlucky home defeat against Schalke, and another lucky win
> in Freiburg. Without those we may never have left the last place.

You can have more than one "most important" game in a season. A win here
would have given breathing space and stopped Freiburg's upwards movement.
As it is, HSV is now very much part of the relegation battle. I hadn't
expected that.

Sven Mischkies

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I had when I saw the teamsheet. Even so HSV started better, until SCF
got a freekick quite far from goal, which was deflected to an SCF player
(who was offside at execution) by Jarolim, then the shot was deflected
twice to go in - it would have gone wide. Afterwards the team just fell
apart.

Jesper Lauridsen

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Not much of a revenge for Otto...

Lots of goals this week, only Werder and Hertha failed to score, no draws
and only 3 home wins. Also 3 teams left the field as losers, despite
scoring the first goal.

Nobody could touch MH this week:

BD 3 6
WP 3 9
MH 7 11
JL 4 8

Overall low scores. Most predictable was Lautern - Schalke 1-4 with 4 & 6
points for the tippers. Two matches gave 0 & 1 points: HSV - Freiburg 1-3
and Nürnberg - Wolfsburg 1-3.

Wins for the burgs have made the relegation battle interesting.

13 1. FC Köln 26 8 4 14 33:50 -17 28
14 Hamburger SV 26 6 9 11 30:48 -18 27
15 FC Augsburg 26 5 11 10 27:40 -13 26
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16 SC Freiburg 26 6 7 13 33:53 -20 25
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17 Hertha BSC 26 5 8 13 26:47 -21 23
18 Kaiserslautern 26 3 11 12 17:36 -19 20

Kaiserslautern are probably gone, Hertha have earned just 3 points in
9 games since Babbel was fired (20 points from 17 games before that).

Hoffenheim (30), Mainz (30) and Nürnberg (31) could still be dragged
into this.

Sven Mischkies

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A few more Hertha numbers:

Second to last win was in October, 3-2 against VW. Then followed 6 games
without a win and Babbel leaving (0-4-2, 9:11, so quite competitive).
Since Babbel left they are not competitive anymore: 1-0-8, 2:21 goals.

Let me repeat:

2:21 goals. 2 goals in 9 games.

They don't need a turnaround, they need a miracle.

Their one win was a lucky 1-0 against Werder. Their other goal came (of
course) against HSV. Thankfully we managed 2 goals in that game - had we
not we would now be second to last with 24 points...

Talking about HSV: Started okish after the break, terrible home loss
against Dortmund, but 7 points from 4 games is nothing to worry about.
The 1 point in 5 games (4:14 goals) following that, however, is.

Not sure what happened there. There's are reason why I call this
Kamikaze-HSV, and that's the awful midfield and defense. We don't play
attacking football because we were good at it, but to hide these two
huge deficencies. From the moment Oenning left until that 1-3 against
Werder 5 games ago this went amazingly well: 25 points in 15 games.

But then? Did the others figure us out? Is it a confidence problem (at
least in the last game after that ridiculous goal it was)? Is it bad
luck (that goal was ridiculous). Is it injuried/suspensions that
disrupted the team (Best striker has been banned for 8 games, starting
central midfield is out, injuries and bans mean constant changes to out
back four)?

Dunno, all of that? At the moment I feel that everything is coming
together against HSV. I hope some things straighten themselves out
quickly.

We have now two away games (VW and Lautern), and need at least 3 points
- as afterwards it's Bayer, Hopp away, Hannover.

Binder Dundat

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On Mar 18, 8:27 pm, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk>
wrote:
> Not much of a revenge for Otto...
No, I guess, as was pointed out earlier, Otto got his revenge that
following year with Kaiserslautern and since revenge is a dish not
best served cold, it was too long ago to use the Otto's Revenge title
for the week. Though i always though revenge followed the laws of
thermodynamics and could not be destroyed?

Fr 16.03. 20:30
1899 Hoffenheim
-
VfB Stuttgart
1:2 (0:2)
Two goals for Ibisievic, it seems like he has scored in every game
since joining for Hoff? ( he actually has 4 goals and 4 assists in 8
games for Stuttgart)

Sa 17.03. 15:30
Borussia Dortmund
-
Werder Bremen
1:0 (1:0)
This win set a Bundesliga record for Dortmund, 20 games unbeaten and
counting.


FC Augsburg
-
1. FSV Mainz 05
2:1 (1:1)
As pointed out in the post above, the relegation battle is tough to
gauge. As for the game Zidan did not score this game and Sascha
Moulders does not seem to be a starter anymore for Augsburg.
It would be kinda cool if Augsburg and Furth were in the Bundesliga
next season?



Hamburger SV
-
SC Freiburg
1:3 (0:2)
If there is a coach who seems to lift his team emotionally, it is not
Fink, it is Streich.


1. FC Nürnberg
-
VfL Wolfsburg
1:3 (1:2)
To me Nurnburg looks like one of the weakest teams on paper?
Though they do have Esswein and a couple of young defenders, that may
turn out to be good?


Bayer Leverkusen
-
Borussia M'gladbach
1:2 (0:1)
I think this is the first win for BMG since Hermann went out with
injury?

Sa 17.03. 18:30
Hertha BSC
-
Bayern München
0:6 (0:3)

I have jumped off of the Lasogga band wagon and on to the Esswein
bandwagon

So 18.03. 15:30
1. FC Kaiserslautern
-
FC Schalke 04
1:4 (1:2)
OK, Kaiserslautern is the weakest side and it is not getting any
better.

So 18.03. 17:30
Hannover 96
-
1. FC Köln
4:1 (1:1)
I really think Hannover is playing nice football now! I admit in this
case the coach (Slomka) deserves credit.
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