Re: Tap PK

[Mathias Kőrber]

On 25/6/12 15:16, DK wrote:
> In article <4u2gu79pfic9fe9sk...@4ax.com>, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Are tap PKs forbidden during penalty shootouts?
>
> ??? Why would they be? Of course not.

But the IFAB Laws Of The Game
(http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame%5f2011%5f12%5fen.pdf)
also state (in reference to 'Kicks from the penalty mark' under
'PROCEDURES TO DETERMINE THE WINNER OF A MATCH OR HOME-AND-AWAY'):


> All players, except the player taking the kick and the two goalkeepers, must
> remain within the centre circle

Which practically rules out a tap-PK...

[Mike Hall]

On 25/06/2012 07:58, anders t wrote:
> Are tap PKs forbidden during penalty shootouts?

Do you mean a tap PK to be that one passes the ball instead of directly
shooting? In that case then obviously tap PKs are forbidden during
penalty shoot-outs.


Mike Hall

[The Scrutineer]

>> Are tap PKs forbidden during penalty shootouts?
>
>Do you mean a tap PK to be that one passes the ball instead of directly
>shooting? In that case then obviously tap PKs are forbidden during
>penalty shoot-outs.
>

> What do you mean by obvious? Before you answered, did you actually look it
> up in the LOTG?

It's beyond obvious, two players will be at the scene, plus how can a goal
be scored by a player who isn't designated to do so?

[Clément]

"anders t" escreveu:

> Quoting Mathias K?rber in rec.sport.soccer:
>>> All players, except the player taking the kick and the two goalkeepers,
>>> must
>>> remain within the centre circle
>>
>>Which practically rules out a tap-PK...
>

> And in combination with "The player taking the penalty kick must kick the
> ball forward" "practically" becomes "theoretically", too.

IIRC, in all the few tap PK attempts I have seen videos of, the PK taker
kicked the ball forwards anyway (even if also sideways), no?

I don't know whether "regular" PKs also must be kicked forward, but I
wouldn't be surprise if that's the case.

Abra�o,

Luiz Mello

[HASM]

anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> writes:

> What do you mean by obvious? Before you answered, did you actually look
> it up in the LOTG?

Technically speaking, PK shoot outs, or more properly called "Kicks from
the penalty mark", are not part of the Laws of the Game, but are in the
book in the "Procedures to determine the winner of a Match or
Home-and-away" section.

They can't be in the LOTG, as the game is "over" after the final whistle
and counts as a tie for all record keeping, PKs are only used to determine
who advances or gets the trophy.

Read pages 52 and 53 of the 2011/12 LOTG edition, available here:
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2011_12_en.pdf
Tap PKs are not addressed, but two bullets read:
- All players, except the players taking the kick and the two goal keepers,
must remain in the center circle.
- The goal-keeper who is the teammate of the kicker must remain on the
field of play, outside of the penalty area in which the kicks are taken,
on the goal line where it meets the penalty area boundary line.
which thus make tap PKs not possible.

-- HASM

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:58:03 PM UTC-7, anders t wrote:
> Are tap PKs forbidden during penalty shootouts?

As long as it's not a clear feint at the point of the kick, no.

Mike