Re: UEFA WCQ Proposal... (no, not AGAIN???)

[Abubakr]

On 1/07/2012 8:21 AM, anders t wrote:
> Two Steps: Step 1 and Step 2. Step 1 decides where teams play in Step 2.
> Step 2, you guessed it, decides who goes to the WC. (Premise: 13 spots.)
>
> STEP 1
> 12 groups. 5x5 + 7x4 (53 teams). 8/6 matches. Teams 1-2 to Step 2 - Level
> A, the rest to Step 2 - Level B.
>
> STEP 2
> Level A
> 6 groups. 6x4 (24 teams). Teams 1-2 from the Step 1 groups go to the same
> Level A group and carry the results against. Thus only 4 more matches
> needed. Teams 1-2 to the WC, the two best #3 to Playoff 1 (extra chance).
>
> Level B
> 6 groups 5x5 + 1x4. Teams 3-5(4) from the Step 1 groups go to the same
> Level A group and carry the results against. Thus only 4/6 more matches
> needed. Best two group winners to Playoff 1 (extra chance). This aims at
> ensuring that "unlucky", but really good teams from Level 1 can bounce
> back.
>
> Playoff 1
> PO1:1 LA 3:1 - LB W:2
> PO1:2 LA 3:2 - LB W:1
>
> Playoff 2
> W PO1:1 - W PO1:2 (Winner takes the 13th spot)
>
> Example:
>
> STEP 1 ---
>
> Group 01 01 Spain 24 Scotland 25 Montenegro 48 Moldova 53 San Marino
> Group 02 02 Germany 23 Slovakia 26 Armenia 47 Iceland 52 Andorra
> Group 03 03 Netherlands 22 Wales 27 Romania 46 Cyprus 51 Liechtenstein
> Group 04 04 England 21 Serbia 28 Ukraine 45 Faroe Islands 50 Malta
> Group 05 05 Croatia 20 Turkey 29 Belgium 44 Luxembourg 49 Kazakhstan
> Group 06 06 Denmark 19 Hungary 30 Estonia 43 Azerbaijan
> Group 07 07 Portugal 18 Slovenia 31 Austria 42 N Ireland
> Group 08 08 Italy 17 Bosnia-H 32 Poland 41 Macedonia
> Group 09 09 Russia 16 Czechia 33 Belarus 40 Georgia
> Group 10 10 France 15 Norway 34 Finland 39 Bulgaria
> Group 11 11 Greece 14 Switzerland 35 Latvia 38 Lithuania
> Group 12 12 Sweden 13 Ireland 36 Albania 37 Israel
>
>
> STEP 2 ---
>
> Level A
> Group 01 01 Spain 12 Sweden 24 Scotland 13 Ireland
> Group 02 02 Germany 11 Greece 23 Slovakia 14 Switzerland
> Group 03 03 Netherlands 10 France 22 Wales 15 Norway
> Group 04 04 England 09 Russia 21 Serbia 16 Czechia
> Group 05 05 Croatia 08 Italy 20 Turkey 17 Bosnia-H
> Group 06 06 Denmark 07 Portugal 19 Hungary 18 Slovenia
>
> Level B
> Group 01 25 Montenegro 48 Moldova 53 San Marino 36 Albania 37 Israel
> Group 02 26 Armenia 47 Iceland 52 Andorra 35 Latvia 38 Lithuania
> Group 03 27 Romania 46 Cyprus 51 Liechtenstein 34 Finland 39 Bulgaria
> Group 04 28 Ukraine 45 Faroe Islands 50 Malta 33 Belarus 40 Georgia
> Group 05 29 Belgium 44 Luxembourg 49 Kazakhstan 32 Poland 41 Macedonia
> Group 06 30 Estonia 43 Azerbaijan 31 Austria 42 N Ireland
>
> PLAYOFF
>
> PO1:1 19 Hungary - 26 Armenia
> PO1:2 20 Turkey - 25 Montenegro
>
> PO2 19 Hungary - 20 Turkey Yay Hungary!

Sounds good from a neutral point of view but dangerous for the big
nations as those Level A groups would increase the chance of a slip up
over the current system.

[anders t]

Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
>Two Steps: Step 1 and Step 2. Step 1 decides where teams play in Step 2.
>Step 2, you guessed it, decides who goes to the WC. (Premise: 13 spots.)
>
>STEP 1
>12 groups. 5x5 + 7x4 (53 teams). 8/6 matches. Teams 1-2 to Step 2 - Level
>A, the rest to Step 2 - Level B.
>
>STEP 2
>Level A
>6 groups. 6x4 (24 teams). Teams 1-2 from the Step 1 groups go to the same
>Level A group and carry the results against. Thus only 4 more matches
>needed. Teams 1-2 to the WC, the two best #3 to Playoff 1 (extra chance).
>
>Level B
>6 groups 5x5 + 1x4. Teams 3-5(4) from the Step 1 groups go to the same
>Level A group and carry the results against. Thus only 4/6 more matches

B!

>needed. Best two group winners to Playoff 1 (extra chance). This aims at
>ensuring that "unlucky", but really good teams from Level 1 can bounce

STEP 1!

[It WAS late when I wrote the original post...]

13 Ireland

>PO1:2 20 Turkey - 25 Montenegro

14 Switzerland

>PO2 19 Hungary - 20 Turkey Yay Hungary!

13 Ireland 14 Switzerland Yay IRELAND!!!

Obviously.


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