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Fogging supposed to stall engine/how many cans?

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ChrisC

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May 22, 2003, 12:03:47 AM5/22/03
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I was fogging my engine through the carbs tonight. It was taking forever.
The sled would not stall. I checked the can to see if the oil was spraying
out and it was. It wasn't spraying out quickly like the wd40 cans with the
straw, but it was still spraying. How long is this supposed to take and how
many cans should I go through? Thanks


Wesley Thiessen

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May 22, 2003, 10:52:47 AM5/22/03
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You are spraying directly into the carbs right? Sounds like you have a
"defective" spray can. Mine comes out "like a WD-40 can". Its not the amount
of cans that you use, its how much you get in at once that will stall the
engine. I don't even use a full can on two machines. If you keep the engine
running after you spray the fogging oil, it will just burn off the oil and make
the fogging useless. Get a can that sprays correctly, then just spray it
nonstop into all the carbs. I just move the can back and forth between the
carbs while spraying all the while (wipe up overspray after). You don't have to
stall it with the spray though to be effective..you just want to coat the
insides of the engine and bearings. Get the engine warmed up to normal running
temps, and then I start off with some short spray "bursts" back and forth into
each carb and once she is "smoking good", I do a "big spray" (you spray
(continuous) for 30 seconds or so back and forth into each carb) and then kill
the engine immediately if it doesnt stall from the continuous fogging spray.
Finish it off with some more fogging oil sprayed down the spark plug holes.

Wesley Thiessen

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May 22, 2003, 1:09:29 PM5/22/03
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I don't use that plastic hose at all... seen a buddy lose it down into the
cylinder :-(

David Courtney wrote:

> Normally, about 1/4 can will stall even a big engine... but you usually
> have to remove the "hose" in order to get enough spray to do it. The hose
> is more for running some oil down the sparkplug holes (without getting it
> all over the engine) after you've fogged it.
> David
>
> "ChrisC" <cchr...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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k.mccready

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May 22, 2003, 4:07:55 PM5/22/03
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Hey, Wesley. Thanks for the good advice. I appreciate it, too. Speedy


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ZRJoe

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May 22, 2003, 4:28:12 PM5/22/03
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I have had that problem too. Got my son to spray in the other carb while I
got one carb. It was the only way it would stall.

But in reality you don't NEED to stall the motor. Just get the fog oil on
the internals.

Spray some down the cylinders as well.


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ChrisC

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May 22, 2003, 5:42:18 PM5/22/03
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Thanks to all. It is hard to keep it spraying when the can isn't in an
upright position.


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Wes 94ZR580

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May 22, 2003, 6:27:19 PM5/22/03
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Look for a brand that is designed to spray upside down. I have been
using Motomaster fogging oil which sprays in all orientations, but you
likely don't have Canadian Tire in New York. You can use the oil on the
outside of the engine as well to protect the metal from corrosion.

Wes
94 ZR580

Karl Shoemaker

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May 25, 2003, 1:30:41 AM5/25/03
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Ahh! very good, Wes, because that was going to be my next post, is it's
stupid to have the "normal" can, since I had the same challenge holding
it upside down. Also I was using the tube, but after reading that other
post I'm not going to anymore; I was lucky this time. Reason I was
thinking of the tubing was to "invent" a "Y" so both bodies could be
sprayed at the same time. I guess the other way is use two cans, one in
each hand, then hit the kill switch. I don't have a son to help. I still
may look around for a "safe" tubing "Y" fitting. I suppose the plastic
wouldn't hurt anything, but glad I did'nt find out. !

Karl

Wes 94ZR580

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May 26, 2003, 11:20:33 AM5/26/03
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It wouldn't hurt as long as it didn't get inside the engine! I think it
would be tough for something to get by a carb slide, or throttle body
butterfly at idle position, but anything foreign can make a mess.

Wes
94 ZR580

Wesley Thiessen

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May 26, 2003, 11:48:24 AM5/26/03
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My buddy was spraying into the sparkplug hole when the plastic straw popped off and
went into the cyl. He just left it in there and it didnt seem to do anything
detrimental to the sled as it ran fine the next season. It was a Yami with no exhaust
valves so maybe it went out the exhaust right away when it was started? Still... not
something that I would prefer to happen!

Evel

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May 30, 2003, 2:04:11 PM5/30/03
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I no longer fog. If you use a good synthetic oil like Klotz which is an
excellent oil for storage, then just use the Arctic Cat storage procedure..
Hold auto-lube cable full on while sled is idling. That's all I do now
along with chaincase oil, grease, spray WD-40, clean, etc,etc..

Cheers,
Evel


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Al Ciesynski

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Jun 6, 2003, 11:43:06 PM6/6/03
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"ChrisC" <cchr...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message news:<D_Xya.6412$pA2....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...

what i do is this. buy some 1/4 clear tubing like what is used on an
aerator for a fish tank and make a t fitting for each cylinder as i
have a 3 cylinder so i have 2 ts and make it so there is 3 peices of
tubing coming off those one for each carb then take off the air box
cover open the carbs up a little to insert the tubing start it up pree
the button on the fogging can and spray it will flood all cylinders at
once and used less than a half of can.any questions on how to make
this device it costs less than 3 bucks to make and works great also
for fooging the upper cylinder all 3 at once.

Karl Shoemaker

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Jun 7, 2003, 1:01:45 AM6/7/03
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I thought of fish tubing, was hoping to get something smaller, but if
you says it works I'll try it, Al. will post later on my site.

Karl

Lumber-jack

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Jun 7, 2003, 11:46:36 AM6/7/03
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I just bought an Arctic Cat ThunderCat and don't have a manual. Can you tell
me wear abouts the auto-lube cable is on the engine???

Thanks


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Karl Shoemaker

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Jun 8, 2003, 8:19:24 PM6/8/03
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I don''t know, but if you go to Brown's Leisure world, they have a
microfich
on the Cat's-might be a clue.......here ya go:

http://www.brownsleisureworld.com/Parts/SNOWMOBILE/


Karl in Spokane

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