Top Speed for ZL440

Sam Yarger

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Mar 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/8/98

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What is the top speed for a 1998 Arctic Cat ZL440 ??????????? And does
anyone know who makes twin pipes for this sled ??????????????

Carney

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Mar 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/9/98

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Sam Yarger <sya...@csrlink.net> wrote:

>What is the top speed for a 1998 Arctic Cat ZL440 ??????????? And does
>anyone know who makes twin pipes for this sled ??????????????
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Nothing to back this up but I believe it would be around 90mph
under good conditions, solid 85 most anytime.

Kevin ......
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MPukos

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Mar 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/9/98

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My 97 ZL440 (same engine) has registered between 85 and 90MPH. Speedometer
accuracy?? Good luck finding pipes, I couldn't find anyone that makes them. I
did buy a 53 degree helix to change my shift points and give me more low end
power ($20 at AC dealer.

Marc
97 ZL440

).>>What is the top speed for a 1998 Arctic Cat ZL440 ??????????? And does

Damien Corona

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Mar 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/10/98

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My wife has a 98 ZL440. She loves it. She went down in size from a 96
GT500. She's only got 600 miles on it this year and our last trip to
northern Maine she had it at 98 MPH on the speedo across a lake and on the
trails.

MARK A BOEVERS

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Mar 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/10/98

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What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree tag
or become a statistic in '98?
Damien Corona wrote in message <3505DA3E...@clinic.net>...

Fluid

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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Someone wrote:

> My wife has a 98 ZL440...our last trip to northern Maine she had

> it at 98 MPH on the speedo across a lake and on the trails.

> What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for? Trying to play tree tag

> or become a statistic in '98?

Women drivers!..........:^)

Jay
'96 SLS

MDMead

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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>What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree tag

>or become a statistic in '98?

>Damien Corona wrote in message <3505DA3E...@clinic.net>...

>>My wife has a 98 ZL440. She loves it. She went down in size from a 96

>>GT500. She's only got 600 miles on it this year and our last trip to

>>northern Maine she had it at 98 MPH on the speedo across a lake and on the
>>trails.
>>

Normally I would agree about the speed on the trail issue, but having ridden
thousands of miles in northern Maine, I can tell you there are many places it
is safe. Some trails in northern Maine run for miles across open potato
fields. These trails are groomed double wide with a berm in the middle. If
nobody is ahead of you, and you can see all around, a quick blip to top speed
doesn't hurt a thing. I had my V-Max 600 to 90+ (indicated) a couple of times
this winter in these conditions. Some of the railroad beds can be treated
simularly, but I would caution not to due to the chance of a game animal
stepping out of the woods in front of you........

Matt
Yamaha owner (who doesn't believe for a minute that a ZL 440 can really do 98
mph.........)

jon_k...@atk.com

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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> >Sam Yarger wrote:
>
> > What is the top speed for a 1998 Arctic Cat ZL440 ???????????

Damien Corona <ski...@clinic.net> wrote:
>
> My wife has a 98 ZL440. <del> she had it at 98 MPH on the

> speedo across a lake and on the
> trails.

Which proves that AC speedos have become even less accurate than Polaris
speedos...

My friend's '97 ZR440 reads about 8-10 mph higher than mine at 90 mph on the
trails. And I've heard that Polaris speedos are way off already. I think
older AC speedos were more accurate.

(BTW, Mark, we were riding 90 mph on the trails to check how our speedos
compared. Just in case you wanted to know why. ;-) )

One more thing-- For the original poster, Sam, I'm not sure if anyone makes
twin pipes for the ZL 440 but I'd strongly advise against going that route
anyway. The ZL 440 has a 68 hp or so motor. Even if pipes add 10 hp (which
they will do only in the advertisements) you'll still be better off buying the
95 hp ZL500 that you really want. Save your money.

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XRno1

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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>>What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree tag
>>or become a statistic in '98?
>
>

Matt's right...there are a lot of places on the trails in "The County" that you
can run right up to top speed or close to it and still be quite safe. An easy
and calm cruising speed is 70 to 80 mph in my opinion. He's right about the
game, too. A friend of mine nearly pegged a deer at 70 when it stepped on to
the trail and began running right parallel to him. Just some thoughts.

Rory Dysart
98 ZL 500

Maine

Gary W. Smith

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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Just a cent or two from Gary Smith (again).

I have the ZL-500 with the est. HP (96.1) and I managed 95 mph within two
tenths of a mile (pond). I was locked right next to my friend's ZR-600-EFI
after about 75. He pulled me down low as he has studs and I don't. But the
9 HP difference and EFI fine tunning didn't really show much difference on
that 40+ degree day! Can't wait to change the jets! I would have love to
not run out of room to see just how long these two machines would stay next
to another (((-; Maybe next season....

...G Smith

Carney

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98

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mdm...@aol.com (MDMead) wrote:

>>What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree tag
>>or become a statistic in '98?
>

>>Damien Corona wrote in message <3505DA3E...@clinic.net>...
>>>My wife has a 98 ZL440. She loves it. She went down in size from a 96
>>>GT500. She's only got 600 miles on it this year and our last trip to

>>>northern Maine she had it at 98 MPH on the speedo across a lake and on the
>>>trails.
>>>
>

>Normally I would agree about the speed on the trail issue, but having ridden
>thousands of miles in northern Maine, I can tell you there are many places it
>is safe. Some trails in northern Maine run for miles across open potato
>fields. These trails are groomed double wide with a berm in the middle. If
>nobody is ahead of you, and you can see all around, a quick blip to top speed
>doesn't hurt a thing. I had my V-Max 600 to 90+ (indicated) a couple of times
>this winter in these conditions. Some of the railroad beds can be treated
>simularly, but I would caution not to due to the chance of a game animal
>stepping out of the woods in front of you........
>
>Matt
>Yamaha owner (who doesn't believe for a minute that a ZL 440 can really do 98
>mph.........)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Matt;
That was 98 indicated on the SPEEDO .. Which would
translate in Real MPH to about 88/90 on radar.

Kevin .......
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

trev04

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98

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Guess he hasn't been in the "county"....my wife
was cruising at over 90 (indicated)....but that was
on a 580.

Chris

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XRno1 <xr...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> >>What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree
tag
> >>or become a statistic in '98?
> >
> >
>

Damien Corona

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98

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The trails in the county are straight and flat, you can run wide open with no
problem. By the way, I've already played tree tag this year only doing 40 and
totaled the sled, I'm on my second ZR this year alone. Tree tag ain't fun, but
we had to get somewhere in a hurry due to a problem with one of the riders in
the group. We usually only cruise at 60-70 mph so we pushed it to get where we
were going.

MARK A BOEVERS wrote:

> What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree tag
> or become a statistic in '98?

> Damien Corona wrote in message <3505DA3E...@clinic.net>...
> >My wife has a 98 ZL440. She loves it. She went down in size from a 96
> >GT500. She's only got 600 miles on it this year and our last trip to
> >northern Maine she had it at 98 MPH on the speedo across a lake and on the
> >trails.
> >

B. Gilmour

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XRno1 wrote:

> >>What the hell are you doing 98 mph down a trail for?Trying to play
> tree tag
> >>or become a statistic in '98?
> >
> >
>

> Matt's right...there are a lot of places on the trails in "The County"
> that you
> can run right up to top speed or close to it and still be quite safe.
> An easy
> and calm cruising speed is 70 to 80 mph in my opinion. He's right
> about the
> game, too. A friend of mine nearly pegged a deer at 70 when it
> stepped on to
> the trail and began running right parallel to him. Just some
> thoughts.
>
> Rory Dysart
> 98 ZL 500
>
> Maine

I don't have a problem with how safe it is, but a piston port 440 going
90+ MPH. Maybe down hill with the wind at your back. Don't believe your
speedometer, because it is not correct. The ZR440 with the case reed
engine and a LOT more horsepower probably won't break 100 MPH. I would
say more realistically 80 to 85 MPH. Sorry to disappoint you.

Michael Hart

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Carney <car...@muskoka.net> wrote in article
<350e4e2a...@news.muskoka.net>...

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Matt;
> That was 98 indicated on the SPEEDO .. Which would
> translate in Real MPH to about 88/90 on radar.
>
> Kevin .......
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Or probably less. Especially without studs.

FWIW ZR 440's are in that "indicated" area and they have a whole lot more
go than the ZL 440.

Michael

JOE PASS

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98

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Geez, My 1973 El-Tigre 400 will run 80 mph (if you can keep it on the
ground!) My buddies ZL 440 will run away from me beyond 80mph.
Horsepower does'nt mean shit...getting it to the ground, and up-shifting
through the power-band efficiently gets you the speed.
The ZL has the technology to efficiently use the power...my old Tiger
wastes most of the power digging holes and skipping across the snow.

I saw an 80cc motorcycle run 127mph out at bonneville...HP???

Joe~

Gary W. Smith

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98

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Fluid

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98

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Someone wrote:
>
> I have the ZL-500 with the est. HP (96.1) and I managed 95 mph within two

> tenths of a mile (pond)...on that 40+ degree day! Can't wait to change
> the jets!

That WAS a 'radar' mph reading, right? Estimated HP of 96.1 - pretty
exact estimate! Regardless, it sounded like fun! :^)

Jay
'96 SLS

Greg

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98

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About 85 on radar. this is on good ice.

trev04

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98

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Not on radar?

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Gary W. Smith <gsm...@javanet.com> wrote in article
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> Just a cent or two from Gary Smith (again).
>

> I have the ZL-500 with the est. HP (96.1) and I managed 95 mph within two

WEisserer

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98

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Hek I was doing 100 on my 700sx and I think a zl 440 passed me... It went by
so fast I could not tell for sure what is was!!!!!1
Iceman

Mach1X

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98

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trev04 wrote:
>
> Not on radar?
>
> --
On the Arctic Cat speedo, 130 mph! ;P

bigpi...@hotmail.com

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98

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NORMALLY.......................I WOULD AGREE{INTHE OLD DAYS}
my sons 440 zl passed the timer on 14 passes AVG SPEED 96.8 mph the
real kicker......all stock.........my 580 efi..............94.5
mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????>What the hell are you doing 98

mph down a trail for?Trying to play tree tag
>>or become a statistic in '98?
>

>>Damien Corona wrote in message <3505DA3E...@clinic.net>...
>>>My wife has a 98 ZL440. She loves it. She went down in size from a 96
>>>GT500. She's only got 600 miles on it this year and our last trip to
>>>northern Maine she had it at 98 MPH on the speedo across a lake and on the
>>>trails.
>>>
>

Gary W. Smith

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98

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Ok on the 85mph on radar.

That really doesn't mean much when `we' don't know what the distance was !

At one of the snowfests in Vermont I attended, they had radar setup. My '88
El Tigre did 70mph in 600 FEET !, and that is without studs !! That machine
has around 88HP.

Your 440 has 68HP. Check the numbers and report back... There is almost 30
HP difference between your ZL and my ZL...(-;

..Gary

trev04

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98

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That would be slightly to the left of the "A" on
a Arctic Cat speedo....

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Fluid

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98

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Someone wrote:
>
> NORMALLY.......................I WOULD AGREE{INTHE OLD DAYS}
> my sons 440 zl passed the timer on 14 passes AVG SPEED 96.8 mph the
> real kicker......all stock.........my 580 efi..............94.5
> mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????

Must have had hi-test in the tank.

Jay
'96 SLS

WEisserer

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98

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Oh he must have had a new belt to go with that high test...
Lets not forget the splitfire spark plugs..

Ice
700sx

Carney

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weis...@aol.com (WEisserer) wrote:

.....And don't forget the Hyperfax , and "Release" super slippery
coating, plastic skis that add 5mph, ....... and maybe the T - Cat
ahead of it with a rope hooked to it's bumper.
Kevin ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>

plumnuts

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98

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WEisserer wrote:
>
> >Someone wrote:
> >>
> >> NORMALLY.......................I WOULD AGREE{INTHE OLD DAYS}
> >> my sons 440 zl passed the timer on 14 passes AVG SPEED 96.8 mph the
> >> real kicker......all stock.........my 580 efi..............94.5
> >> mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????
> >
> >
> >Must have had hi-test in the tank.
> >
> >Jay
> >'96 SLS
>
> Oh he must have had a new belt to go with that high test...
> Lets not forget the splitfire spark plugs..
>
> Ice
> 700sx

my 68 Moto Ski Cadet is still faster, as long as I have the super secret
mix in it....mike

trev04

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98

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Carney <car...@muskoka.net> wrote in article

<3512f4ce...@news.muskoka.net>...

> weis...@aol.com (WEisserer) wrote:
>
> >>Someone wrote:
> >>>
> >>> NORMALLY.......................I WOULD AGREE{INTHE OLD DAYS}
> >>> my sons 440 zl passed the timer on 14 passes AVG SPEED 96.8 mph the
> >>> real kicker......all stock.........my 580 efi..............94.5
> >>> mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????
> >>
> >>
> >>Must have had hi-test in the tank.
> >>
> >>Jay
> >>'96 SLS
> >
> >Oh he must have had a new belt to go with that high test...
> >Lets not forget the splitfire spark plugs..
> >
> >Ice
> >700sx
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> .....And don't forget the Hyperfax , and "Release" super slippery
> coating, plastic skis that add 5mph, ....... and maybe the T - Cat
> ahead of it with a rope hooked to it's bumper.
> Kevin ....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >

Three words....UFO's.

John

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plumnuts wrote in message <350F4F...@mail.lewiston.com>...

WEisserer wrote:
>
> >Someone wrote:
> >>
> >> NORMALLY.......................I WOULD AGREE{INTHE OLD DAYS}
> >> my sons 440 zl passed the timer on 14 passes AVG SPEED 96.8 mph the
> >> real kicker......all stock.........my 580 efi..............94.5
> >> mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????
> >
> >
> >Must have had hi-test in the tank.
> >
> >Jay
> >'96 SLS
>
> Oh he must have had a new belt to go with that high test...
> Lets not forget the splitfire spark plugs..
>
> Ice
> 700sx

my 68 Moto Ski Cadet is still faster, as long as I have the super secret
mix in it....mike

Must be a couple of cans of Klotz Nitro additive........John

Tyler

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98

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I'm not calling any of you's liars but why do i always hear about these
"magical" 440's and 500's that will do 100mph but when i'll ride with
them they don't go past 85??????

Tyler
98' MXZ 500 2000 km

bigpi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> NORMALLY.......................I WOULD AGREE{INTHE OLD DAYS}
> my sons 440 zl passed the timer on 14 passes AVG SPEED 96.8 mph the
> real kicker......all stock.........my 580 efi..............94.5

Gary W. Smith

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98

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Once again Tyler, give us the measurement in FEET that you turned this
speed!

We want to know...

I already told you what my '88 tiger did in 600 feet.

...Gary

Tyler

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Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98

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what the hell are u talking about?
u misread what i had said, so i'll repeat it, open up your eyes this
time, i never said that my sled would do 100mph because it won't!!!!!!!
here's what i wrote last time:

I'm not calling any of you's liars but why do i always hear about these

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98

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B. Gilmour wrote:
>
> Carney wrote:

>
> > Tyler <tba...@ilos.net!!!!!!!> wrote:
> >
> > >Gary W. Smith wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Once again Tyler, give us the measurement in FEET that you turned
> > this
> > >> speed!
> > >>
> > >> We want to know...
> > >>
> > >> I already told you what my '88 tiger did in 600 feet.
> > >>
> > >> ...Gary
> > >what the hell are u talking about?
> > >u misread what i had said, so i'll repeat it, open up your eyes this
> > >time, i never said that my sled would do 100mph because it
> > won't!!!!!!!
> > >here's what i wrote last time:
> > >
> > >
> > >I'm not calling any of you's liars but why do i always hear about
> > these
> > >"magical" 440's and 500's that will do 100mph being stock but when
> > i'll
> > >ride with them on the river they don't go past 85 the whole time were
> >
> > >out??????
> > >
> > >Tyler
> > >98' MXZ 500 2000 km
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >

> > Tyler;
> > I understood the gist of your post, didn't seem that hard
> > to understand. As you were saying, lots of people say their sled does
> > 100 mph, when they are maxed out beside you on the lake and your more
> > accurate speedo says 85 mph (for example) Very, Very commom . Giving
> > your sleds peak speed on it's speedo is like telling your potential
> > girlfriend you have 16 inches tucked away. She's in for a real
> > disappointment when she gets an accurate measurement !! :-)
> >
> > Kevin.......
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I got a kick out of your posts. I have a '97 Indy 500 that I freely
> admit won't go over 85 in most conditions. The funny part is I have a
> friend that has a '97 v-max 600 that he claimed would go 100. Well, at
> the end of a long field, he had me by about one sled length. I never
> looked at the speedo, but I am pretty sure it didn't go over 85. The
> only time I saw it go over 85, I was on a frozen road that was going
> down a slight grade for about a mile. That time I hit 95 and had to let
> up because I caught up to my friends.

B Gilmour

We were probably doing are last ride last night here in PA, temps
going up. but i hear the same thing this machine and that machine does
this ect, well last night, there was this RXL that the owner claimed it
hit speeds in excess of 100 mph, he has 144 studs and i think it is a
650 cc triple cylinder. I told him accross this field of 1000 feet i hit
approx 86 mph. and he said he hit 90 plus. well to make a story short we
lined them up 4 times and 4 times my 500cc twin has won by at least 4-6
lenghts. and i keep thinking i need a bigger sled, but after the BS
clears it's the finish line that counts, yes, you hear it all, mostly
all the time when a sledder claims he smoked this and that, but they
never tell ya when they got smoked. I got beat quite a bit of times, I
like drag racing, but I am really enjoying tuning my smaller 500 cc sled
to it's maximum potentials.

Chet

WJG

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98

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Chet, you still running that Crank Shop 1050 under the red 500 hood?

Bill Guzior
POLARIS RACING
wgu...@ibm.net
chet wrote in message <351848...@ptdprolog.net>...

chet

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98

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Bullet Bill

I removed the 1050 crankshop triple,wasn't very trailable,
i am back to the little 500cc twin.

Chet

One of the Pfankuchs

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98

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My wife's sled is a 1988 Polaris 400 Classic. It will run an honest 95
to 100 mph down a long road with minimal snow cover. My 1997 440 LC
with the long travel is not nearly as fast down the roads as her sled.
The older 400 sleds had higher compression (more power). The longer
travel tracks also take more power to turn at higher speeds.

Pete

Snowman

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Mar 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/28/98

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Maybe you should get a lie detector, I mean radar gun test. When you go
a 100 MPH for real on the gun it seems awful fast, speedo readings can
be deceiving.

IMHO Snowman...
1966 Polaris Colt Honest 25 MPH on the gun